From: Subject: (kw) Songtext Date: 01 May 1997 15:46:58 +0200 (CEST) Hi! Anyone of you got the Songtext of Antenna (German and/or English). Its quite hard to understand what they are singing.... Greeting from Austria zilli # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) Songtext Date: 01 May 1997 13:50:15 -0400 >Anyone of you got the Songtext of Antenna (German and/or English). >Its quite hard to understand what they are singing.... Ok, here it is as it appears on the lyric sleeve of the 'Radio-Activity' album (U.S. release): ====================== Antenna ------- I'm the antenna Catching vibration You're the transmitter Give information! Wir richten Antennen Ins Firmament Empfangen die Tone Die niemand kennt I'm the transmitter I give information You're the antenna Catching vibration Es strahlen die Sender Bild, Ton, und Wort Elektromagnetisch An jeden Ort I'm the antenna... Radio Sender Und Horer sind wir Wir spielen im Ather Das Wellenklavier ====================== P.S. - Sorry about not including the umlauts. :) -- Scott M. Barnhill barnhill@easyway.net "I'm the antenna..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tobi Subject: (kw) TG Tickets Date: 02 May 1997 14:12:01 +0200 Hello there! I have to trouble you with a pure organizational question about getting tickets for the tribal gathering. I called the booking office to get confirmation that there are still tickets available before I book a flight and so on. Ok, there are plenty they said, so I wanted to know how to get three. I can order them by credit card and then they will be sent to me. Well, the delivery can take up to 28 days it says on the TG websitem, that means the tickets would arrive far after the event. So I proposed if they could send it to an address in London. Nope, they said, only if I have an english credit card (which I have not). I can imagine that most of you already got your tickets, but maybe there are some people that are in a similar position or found a solution they can tell about or even share. E.g. what is about calling a ticket office like HNB? However, I consider that kind of ticket policy pretty irrational. As someone from a foreign but european country, willing to order a ticket still in time (I think that is), credit card available, and quite flexible even to fetch the tickets at any place in London I feel confronted with a lack of service and goodwill. Peace, Tobi. Nofrontiere Design GmbH Zinckgasse 20-22 A-1150 Vienna Austria t +43-1-9855750 f +43-1-98557503 tobi@nofrontiere.com http://www.nofrontiere.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) KW and drum machines Date: 03 May 1997 23:21:07 EDT Does anyone know what drum machines/sound patches they used on "Electric Cafe" and "The Mix" besides the TR-808 used on "Musique..."? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Hiscock Subject: (kw) FOR SALE (UK): 2 Tribal Gathering tickets Date: 04 May 1997 20:17:38 +0100 Hi, I've got 2 tickets for sale for the Tribal Gathering gig at Luton on 24th May. I'm asking for 35 each including prompt UK registered delivery. Please email me for further info. Best wishes Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chris Skerik Subject: (kw) New tunes Date: 05 May 1997 00:24:46 +0100 Let's add to the rumours, Today's LA Times Calendar section says that the new Wim Wenders film and soundtrack will feature new music by KW, Chris # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) New tunes Date: 05 May 1997 01:55:21 -0700 For REAL?? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "hawran hr63" Subject: (kw) new web page Date: 05 May 1997 03:27:54 PDT ahoj kraftwerkisti!!! On the czech server Mamedia is now new page about Kraftwerk. Page contains photos of concert in Prague and some talking in czech language. http://www.mamedia.cz/music.net/kraft/@u=rTVAu8yMikHAedfmMQ P.S. And here is something like IRC about kw, but again in czech language ;-) http://www.mamedia.cz/@u=PK9KPiyLw9lclJONZH@m=chat/chat?ch=000002762 Maybe it will be interesting for you... === hi === hawran === Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "hawran hr63" Subject: (kw) new web page Date: 05 May 1997 03:27:23 PDT ahoj kraftwerkisti!!! On the czech server Mamedia is now new page about Kraftwerk. Page contains photos of concert in Prague and some talking in czech language. http://www.mamedia.cz/music.net/kraft/@u=rTVAu8yMikHAedfmMQ P.S. And here is something like IRC about kw, but again in czech language ;-) http://www.mamedia.cz/@u=PK9KPiyLw9lclJONZH@m=chat/chat?ch=000002762 Maybe it will be interesting for you... === hi === hawran === Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Fjellström Subject: Re: (kw) Future Music Date: 05 May 1997 11:57:20 +0100 > > But, I hope sombeody out there has the sence to > > bring a portable DAT recorder and a good mic to bootleg the performance. > > Make a CD, and sell it... > > > > You went too far in this topic here, I think. You better wait for the > official KW CD. Oh, well. I just don't want any new material get spoiled. /Marcus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Yamo's "Time Pie" Date: 05 May 1997 13:38:02 +0200 (DFT) The "Time Pie" CD by Yamo is now out (both the standard and the digipack version). Both versions are identical, except that the booklet of the standard version has two additional pages with an illustration plus the lyrics for the title track. These lyrics are identical with the lyrics for Exxcelsior's "Waiting", so "Time Pie" appears to be basically the same track. Credits: "Story ideas by Wolfgang Fluer. Music by Fluer/Toma/Werner/Grund. Additional voices on "speech dancer" and "guiding ray": Donna Regina. Lyrics by Fluer. Additional lyrics on "Aurora Borealis": E. Schult, on "guiding ray": P. Wilkinson. Coversymbol by Josef Rindsfuesser 1896. Lithography by Richard Reisen Repro. Artdirection: Creative Services/EMI Electrola/Fluer Recorded and mixed at St. Martin Tonstudio, Duesseldorf. Mastered at EMI Maarweg Studio, Cologne. Voices on "time pie" album: Wolfgang Fluer/Donna Regina/Jeannine Fluer/Rosa Barba/Barbara Uhling/Jedra Dayl/Felicia Uwage/Max Stamm." There seems to be some kind of Yamo information service: "P.O. BOX 115 Blackpool, Lancs., England FY3 7GE (please include intern. answering letter.)" Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) new web page Date: 05 May 1997 08:58:28 -0400 >On the czech server Mamedia is now new page about Kraftwerk. >Page contains photos of concert in Prague and some talking >in czech language. > >http://www.mamedia.cz/music.net/kraft/@u=rTVAu8yMikHAedfmMQ Well, my knowledge of the Czech language certainly isn't all that good, but the site itself is quite nice! Some wonderful photos and even some robot-enhanced imagery! Very cool stuff. :) -- Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) La Duesseldorf Date: 05 May 1997 15:47:19 +0200 (DFT) I have been told that the first La Duesseldorf album ("Duesseldorf") was re-issued on CD on the Japanese Captain Trip label. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Kess Subject: Re: (kw) KW and drum machines Date: 04 May 1997 04:01:03 -0400 Hy, I don't think they used drum machines a lot, but sampled some stuff. On the electric cafe album, I recognize on boing boom tschak the sample of a sequential drumtraks. I mean the deep clap. I t could also be a linn drum, but I'm not shure if the original linn had tune parameters to tune down the clap, like the drumtraks could. I did not hear any other specific drum samples. I expect the drumtraks to be used on other tracks like techno pop and telephon call. Oliver # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Havok24@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) new web page Date: 05 May 1997 12:27:15 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-05-05 11:58:29 EDT, you write: << http://www.mamedia.cz/music.net/kraft/@u=rTVAu8yMikHAedfmMQ >> i can't read a bit of czechoslovakian (or any other slavic language for that matter), but this site is DEFINITELY worth visiting, if only for the imagery alone! i raise my miller genuine draft to toast mamedia (whoever they are)! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paulo Mouat Subject: Re: (kw) new web page Date: 06 May 1997 01:26:46 +0200 Havok24@aol.com wrote: > i can't read a bit of czechoslovakian (or any other slavic language > for that matter), but this site is DEFINITELY worth visiting, if only > for the imagery alone! > > i raise my miller genuine draft to toast mamedia (whoever they are)! There's one more interesting picture not shown on the page: http://www.mamedia.cz/music.net/kraft/gfx/2.jpg Best! -- __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, |___| mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timour.JGENTI@ifp.fr (Timour JGENTI) Subject: Re: (kw) new web page Date: 06 May 1997 09:43:07 +0200 > There's one more interesting picture not shown on the page: > http://www.mamedia.cz/music.net/kraft/gfx/2.jpg Yet i'm wondering what another image do in the same kraft/gfx directory: http://www.mamedia.cz/music.net/kraft/gfx/futdom13.jpg :) Tim. -- Timour JGENTI | Institut Francais du Petrole __ _______________|_______________________________________|____ ________ / timour.jgenti@ifp.fr | | __| / / http://www.mygale.org/00/timlcf/ | | | # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Yamo / Doreen D'Agostino Date: 06 May 1997 12:09:41 +0200 (DFT) It seems that Doreen D'Agostino has still connections with Kraftwerk. From rec.music.newage: > For those interested in Kraftwerk: Former Kraftwerk member Wolfgang Flur > has just been signed to EMI-Germany under the name YAMO. The new single > and album have just been released in Germany. The title of the album is > TIME PIE. Plans for a US release are under way. Also, other European > territories and Japan will be announced shortly. > We will post latest breaking news shortly. > Doreen D'Agostino > Publicist for Wolfgang Flur > Email: DorenDoren@aol.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Concert rumours Date: 06 May 1997 12:47:07 +0200 (DFT) EMI Electrola have refused to confirm rumours about forthcoming Kraftwerk concerts in Germany, according to the May issue of the "Concert" magazine. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Concert rumours Date: 06 May 1997 12:47:07 +0200 (DFT) EMI Electrola have refused to confirm rumours about forthcoming Kraftwerk concerts in Germany, according to the May issue of the "Concert" magazine. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Frank Meijer Date: 06 May 1997 17:18:44 +0200 Hi there! Just to be absolutely sure. Will the concert take place near the rather large town of Luton, in the northwest of London? I just remembered that it was in the south, until I picked up an atlas which showed Luton situated northwest of London. I presume that is the only Luton near London? Frank # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cgross@pop.erols.com (Christopher Gross) Subject: (kw) Who are these guys? Date: 06 May 1997 14:02:11 -0400 Hi everyone, Has anyone heard of an album from Lasch Records called "Sehr Gut Kommt Sehr Gut"? I found a copy at least 10 years ago... it seems to be a parody of K-Tel compilations (there's even a K-Tel commercial as the opening track) containing material by Der Plan, Kraftwerk, DAF, the Residents, etc. The Kraftwerk contribution consists of a piece called "Stalagmit" that has been cut up into numbered snippets and inserted between the other tracks. Does anyone know if this is a real Kraftwerk piece, or the whole album is a put-on? The album has a sticker on it reading "This record is a parody" (in German), but I don't know if it's a parody of compilations, the artists, or what! Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lists@neox.demon.co.uk Subject: (kw) Re: Luton Date: 06 May 1997 16:13:48 +0000 > From: Frank Meijer > Just to be absolutely sure. Will the concert take place near the rather > large town of Luton, > in the northwest of London? yes, that's the place alright. > I just remembered that it was in the south, > until I picked up an > atlas which showed Luton situated northwest of London. I presume that is the > only Luton near > London? Maybe you were thinking of Lydd where KW were due to play a couple of years ago? Jon Alsbury 'by pressing down a special key it plays a little melody' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) 'Heimcomputer' lyrics. Date: 06 May 1997 22:47:00 -0400 Hi folks. Could someone please e-mail me the text for the German lyrics of 'Heimcomputer'? Thanks! -- Scott M. Barnhill barnhill@easyway.net "It's more fun to compute..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J|rgen B|rjesson Subject: (kw) Upcoming concerts Date: 07 May 1997 08:26:28 +0200 (MET DST) > EMI Electrola have refused to confirm rumours about forthcoming Kraftwerk > concerts in Germany, according to the May issue of the "Concert" magazine. > > Klaus Zaepke To get some information on this subject I sent an e-mail to MCT Konzertagentur (which is the ticket company handling Kraftwerk concerts) and asked if they could either confirm or deny the rumours about upcoming concerts in Germany. I also asked them if they did have any information about the possibility of concerts in other contries (except for the Tribal Gathering performance). The answer I got was short: "no comment." So I guess the truth IS out there somewhere, but obviously hard to get :-) /jorgen borjesson, e-mail: jorbor@etek.chalmers.se # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Re: BIG OL' NEWS FLASH!!!! Date: 07 May 1997 03:02:05 EDT TODAY, AT 2:24pm, "M2 ON MTV" PLAYED "POCKET CALCULATOR"!!!! The video is extremely cheesy. Shot on video, it depicts the band at a concert. A large screaming audience is always at the left, the band, accompanied by a HUGE amount of equipment and playing tiny instruments. The band members squat down and let the audience push buttons on the "calculators." Did anyone else get to see this? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) Re: BIG OL' NEWS FLASH!!!! Date: 07 May 1997 00:51:24 -0700 *ARRRRGGGHHH* I MISSED IT!! Not AGAIN.... shit! I was in town all day. ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -(Foto & Profile)- http://www.scifi.com -(I live in The DOMINION Lounge. Same Foto, = different Text.)- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: Re:(kw) Upcoming concerts Date: 07 May 1997 04:23:00 -0400 Message text written by J|rgen B|rjesson >"no comment." So I guess the truth IS out there somewhere, but obviously hard to get :-) < and they're not denying it !!! Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Magnus Finbom Subject: (kw) Real Audio & Video Date: 07 May 1997 10:37:13 +0200 (MDT) Luton... :-( Must work. :-(( Can't go. :-((( Would it not be great if the concerst should be broadcasted on TV or (better and more elecric) over the internet in RealVideo? *********************************** * Magnus Finbom * * mailto:finbom@hem.passagen.se * * http://hem.passagen.se/finbom * *********************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) BIG OL' NEWS FLASH!!!! Date: 06 May 1997 14:37:44 EDT TODAY, AT 2:24pm, "M2 ON MTV" PLAYED "POCKET CALCULATOR"!!!! The video is extremely cheesy. Shot on video, it depicts the band at a concert. A large screaming audience is always at the left, the band, accompanied by a HUGE amount of equipment and playing tiny instruments. The band members squat down and let the audience push buttons on the "calculators." Did anyone else get to see this? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) BBC Radio 1 Kraftwerk Special Date: 08 May 1997 11:28:00 +0000 I've heard that the BBC Special on Kraftwerk from December 1995 will be repeated on May 18th on BBC Radio 1. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Land Subject: RE: (kw) BBC Radio 1 Kraftwerk Special Date: 08 May 1997 11:23:10 +0100 Is this the 'farce' which Collins and McKoney (I don't know if this is = the correct spelling?!) did on the origins of Kraftwerk? I listened to that show and I must admit, I did find it very funny, but = remember it is their comic interpretation of how Kraftwerk came into = existance. It's not for the fanatic who may take offence at the mere = thought of Kraftwerk being ridiculed or sent up!!! Best Regards, Craig. ---------- Sent: 08 May 1997 12:28 I've heard that the BBC Special on Kraftwerk from December 1995=20 will be repeated on May 18th on BBC Radio 1. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original = sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Melzer" Subject: Re: (kw) BBC Radio 1 Kraftwerk Special Date: 08 May 1997 12:25:16 +0200 Thanks for the information. Do you know the time of the broadcasting as well? Hasta luego Michael Melzer e-mail: h8551159@asterix.wu-wien.ac.at WWW: http://www.wu-wien.ac.at/usr/h85/h8551159/fanet.htm ¿ Hay una discoteca por aquí ? Von: Klaus Zaepke An: kraftwerk@xmission.com Datum: Donnerstag, 8. Mai 1997 11:43 Betreff: (kw) BBC Radio 1 Kraftwerk Special > >I've heard that the BBC Special on Kraftwerk from December 1995 >will be repeated on May 18th on BBC Radio 1. > > Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: RE: (kw) BBC Radio 1 Kraftwerk Special Date: 08 May 1997 16:31:34 +0000 > From: Craig Land > > Is this the 'farce' which Collins and McKoney (I don't know if this is the > correct spelling?!) did on the origins of Kraftwerk? No, it is an hour-long (serious) documentary on Kraftwerk. I remember that somebody posted a transcription to the mailing list after the original broadcast. It should be somewhere in the digests. > I listened to that show and I must admit, I did find it very funny, Do you remember any details? :-) > From: "Michael Melzer" > > Thanks for the information. Do you know the time of the broadcasting as > well? Unfortunately not, but if it is really going to be repeated, there should be an announcement somewhere on the BBC web pages next week (http://www.bbc.co.uk). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subrata Bhattacharjee Subject: (kw) kraftwerk Digest V3 #67 -Reply Date: 08 May 1997 13:54:39 -0500 Has anyone ever seen any Rheingold CD's or Vinyl. - -- Jason....... I have a 4 song EP released in 1982. I forget the title of the record, but it includes the song "Fan Fan Fanatic" (English version). I've been looking for the German version for years, but have never seen a copy. My question is whether any member of KW had involvement with this band. I know that Lothar Manteuffel (now Elektric Music ?) was part of the band, but I recall hearing on a radio broadcast that Florian Schneider's hand was present. Anyone have any info on this ? Subrata # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 8 May 1994 19:08:09 -0500 From: Peter Liethen Subject: RE: (kw) BBC Radio 1 Kraftwerk Special >> Thanks for the information. Do you know the time of the broadcasting as >> well? Will this be on Shortwave radio? I'd like to hear it over here in the US, and It would give me a good excuse to buy a shortwave radio. If it will be on shortwave, what frequency and time? - -Peter Liethen pliethen@globaldialog.com http://www.globaldialog.com/~pliethen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: resin@tuna.net Subject: (kw) bbc broadcast/ra. Date: 08 May 1997 22:27:51 -0500 hey yall... if some one tapes the BBC kraftwerk special, encodes it, and sends it to me i will put it up on my webpage (http://www.tuna.net/lemon) as a realaudio file. how does that sound? peace to every one on the list. darren all terrain sound nyc. http://www.tuna.net/lemon email:resin@tuna.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) bbc broadcast/ra. Date: 09 May 1997 05:36:31 +0100 On 09-Maj-97 A.D., resin@tuna.net carved the following runes about "(kw) bbc broadcast/ra.": >if some one tapes the BBC kraftwerk special, encodes it, and sends it to >me >i will put it up on my webpage (http://www.tuna.net/lemon) as a realaudio >file. >how does that sound? Rather MPEG3 if possible. As long as RealAudio want that much $ for their sources, me and many others won't have a chance to hear it. >peace to every one on the list. Lots of peace to you too! Gerade aus! -- E m a n u e l M a i r _____________________________________ mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: resin@tuna.net Subject: (kw) ra. Date: 09 May 1997 00:28:33 -0500 http://www.real.com download the realaudio player for free later d # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: resin@tuna.net Subject: (kw) correct ra. Date: 09 May 1997 00:54:43 -0500 this is the realaudio homepage.. ignore my previous message http://www.realaudio.com download the realaudio player for free later d # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bruce M. Lloyd" Subject: (kw) MA Media Kraftwerk Site Date: 09 May 1997 02:04:13 -0400 Just visited the site. Very cool indeed. I'm actually surprised that Ralf and Florian were so open to having their pix taken in public. Too bad some of the pictures are too dark... However, does anyone know Czech well enough to translate? I could ask my sister's husband who is Czech, if no one could do it.. Bruce ---- Bruce M. Lloyd, bml@bgi.on.ca Macintosh Technical Support Services and Systems Engineer BGI Systems Integration Markham, Ontario, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tobi Subject: Re: (kw) bbc broadcast/ra. Date: 09 May 1997 09:37:42 +0100 On 970509, mair@medstud.gu.se wrote: >Rather MPEG3 if possible. As long as RealAudio want that much $ for their >sources, me and many others won't have a chance to hear it. I think you don't have to pay one pfennig (except for the connection) to hear realaudio over the net. Only the realaudio (now called realmedia) server has to be paid, the player is free: http://www.real.com/products/player/download.html Boing, Tobi. tobi@nofrontiere.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: Re:(kw) bbc broadcast/ra. Date: 09 May 1997 04:26:53 -0400 Message text written by INTERNET:resin@tuna.net >if some one tapes the BBC kraftwerk special, encodes it, and sends it to me i will put it up on my webpage (http://www.tuna.net/lemon) as a realaudio file. how does that sound? peace to every one on the list.< Hang on chaps, bbc radio 1 transmits selected programs in real audio. Why don't we check if the Kraftwerk special will be transmitted as such?? Beats wasting energy doing conversions to and from raw audio. Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Land Subject: (kw) T-Shirts are almost ready ! Date: 09 May 1997 11:36:23 +0100 Hi there everyone, This message mainly concerns the following list members: Aaron Grier =A311.48 Thomas Bieler =A34.38=09 Paul Webb =A32.00 Dirk Fellhauer =A34.38 David Barnard =A32.00 Mats Kadmark =A34.38 Jeff McWhirt =A311.48 Nexus Need your address Neil Lawrence =A32.00 Nick Lavely =A311.48 I have been given further info on the printing of the t-shirts for = Tribal Gathering, they will be of a high quality 100% cotton material, = colour is black. The print will be the same as the Kraftwerk web site, = namely the radio tower with broken circles emitting from it to simulate = radio waves with the name Kraftwerk above. This wil be on the front of = the shirt. On the back will be 'kraftwerk@xmission.com', this will be in the same = text style as the name Kraftwerk on the front of the shirt. As the print will be the same luminous green colour, the screen will = require a total of five individual screens in order to get the quality = and exact replication of the web site art work. Therefore the cost of = each t-shirt will be =A320 plus postage and packing. I have placed the postage cost only beside the names listed above for = you to arrange payment. Please make your Bankers cheques payable to Mr. = Craig Land in Great British Pounds as soon as possible. All I can say is, watch your post!!=20 If this is a success and you are all happy with the level of quality I = am trying to achieve in producing these shirts, future limited edition = print runs can be arranged. Let me know what ideas you have on artwork = designs. Best Regards, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) bbc broadcast/ra. Date: 09 May 1997 15:06:42 +0100 On 09-Maj-97 A.D., Tobi carved the following runes about "Re: (kw) bbc broadcast/ra.": >On 970509, mair@medstud.gu.se wrote: >>Rather MPEG3 if possible. As long as RealAudio want that much $ for >their >>sources, me and many others won't have a chance to hear it. >I think you don't have to pay one pfennig (except for the connection) to >hear realaudio over the net. Only the realaudio (now called realmedia) >server has to be paid, the player is free: What I meant was that RealAudio (the company) won't just give away the sources and descriptions for the realaudio format, and as long as they aren't willing to make a port usable to us non-wintel/mac lemmings we can only sit there and drool over what we're not let in to. And maybe I should have said "... MPEG3 *as well* if possible ..." in my first posting. Freedom of choice is always best (except for mr. Gate$.. ;) Gerade aus! -- E m a n u e l M a i r _____________________________________ mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) ra. Date: 09 May 1997 15:10:34 +0100 On 09-Maj-97 A.D., resin@tuna.net carved the following runes about "(kw) ra.": >http://www.real.com >download the realaudio player for free But I mean that I'm not going to rush and buy a wintel/mac machine! Ah well, I'll fix my windoze/mac emulators soon anyway... Gerade aus! -- E m a n u e l M a i r _____________________________________ mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cgross@pop.erols.com (Christopher Gross) Subject: (kw) ra Date: 09 May 1997 10:16:29 -0400 In regard to the RealAudio format: Emanuel Mair has a good point-- RA is a proprietary format that not every computer can decode. The RA program only works on WinTel/Mac systems; MPEG3 is much more accessible... -Tschak!- Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cgross@pop.erols.com (Christopher Gross) Subject: (kw) BBC1 Date: 09 May 1997 11:12:49 -0400 I just checked: BBC1 is available on the Internet (in RealAudio format) at http://www.bbc.co.uk. I don't know if KW will be featured, but hopefully the show will be available... Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cgross@pop.erols.com (Christopher Gross) Subject: (kw) BBC1 Date: 09 May 1997 11:12:08 -0400 I just checked: BBC1 is available on the Internet (in RealAudio format) at http://www.bbc.co.uk. I don't know if KW will be featured, but hopefully the show will be available... Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?GARCIA_NU=D1EZ_ALFREDO_HONORATO?= <9319048@li.urp.edu.pe> Subject: (kw) X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.42a) Date: 09 May 1997 12:35:16 -0500 EST Hi Kraftwerk fans,My name is Alfredo Garcia, I'm a student at the Private University Ricardo Palma, from Lima Peru (South America) and I'm a fan of Kraftwerk and related groups like Elektric Music,etc, I'm interested to have mailing with others fans and to talk about "The Pioneers" Ralph and Florian and others members. Write me back soon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: RE: (kw) BBC Radio 1 Kraftwerk Special Date: 08 May 1997 18:46:47 +0000 Klaus Zaepke was saying: >> From: Craig Land >> >> Is this the 'farce' which Collins and McKoney (I don't know if this is the >> correct spelling?!) did on the origins of Kraftwerk? >No, it is an hour-long (serious) documentary on Kraftwerk. >I remember that somebody posted a transcription to the mailing list after >the original broadcast. It should be somewhere in the digests. Yeah, that was me. I posted it around about March or April 1996. Regrettably, I can't find my original transcription anywhere. I still have a recording of the original broadcast. Perhaps they will add to it some more about the Tribal Gathering or the new album ? -- /=======================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | | Influence and inspiration from : | | Jarre Vangelis Tomita Carlos Erasure Pinhas TangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.co.uk/customers/Alliance)| \=======================================================================/ Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. -- Mark Twain # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Calder <101460.571@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk releases from EMI Date: 10 May 1997 02:12:20 EDT EMI records yesterday (Friday 9 May) issued a press release regarding the Kraftwerk appearance at 'Triibal Gathering' and the releases that will be appearing. As we all have assumed for a while now, no new album. Nor single, even. June 2 will see a re-issue of 'The Man Machine' on CD - this time round as a double CD. CD 1 contains the standard album. CD 2 contains theree additional tracks; 'Die Roboter', 'Neon Licht' and 'Das Model'. In the case of the first two tracks I assume that these will be the German 7" single edits(?). The packaging has been revamped into the 'digipak' format. Similar releases,with a second bonus CD, will appear in July for 'Trans-Europe Express' and 'Radio-Activity'. Meanwhile... Throughout May EMI will issue four separate DJ-only promo 12" singles; 'Trans-Europe Express', 'Home Computer (It's More Fun To Compute'), 'Numbers' and 'Music Non Stop'. Apparently the pressings are of 1000 each. A separate box-set to house these will also be available as a strictly promo-only item in a lmited edition of 250. This, in addition to the box, will also contain a Kraftwerk t-shirt. So, there we go... Ian Calder # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Calder <101460.571@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) re; Spanish 'Electric Cafe' Date: 10 May 1997 02:24:07 EDT > Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 13:01:26 -0400 > From: "Scott M. Barnhill" > Subject: Re: (kw) Electric Cafe in Spanish > >>Does anybody know if a fully-Spanish-version of Electric Cafe actually exists? > > Nope, to the best of my knowledge the only one that exists is the > Spanish release of 'Electric Cafe' which is essentially just the English > version plus "Sex Object" sung in Spanish. > > - -- > Scott 'Techno Pop' is also different; the majority of the verses are sung in Spanish, instead of English. Ian Calder # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk and Wenders Date: 10 May 1997 11:23:16 +0000 From the Los Angeles Times: POP EYE WIM AND VIGOR By STEVE HOCHMAN German director Wim Wenders still hasn't started work on putting Bono's "Million Dollar Motel" movie script onto the big screen, but he's gotten the U2 singer to provide a duet with Sinead O'Connor as the key song for his current project, "The End of Violence." The song will cap a soundtrack collection that--typical of Wenders films--features a top-notch roster of rock figures, including a Michael Stipe-Vic Chesnutt pairing, the first new piece of music by German electronic pioneers Kraftwerk in more than a decade and a previously unreleased song by the late Roy Orbison. The collection, put together by Wenders, film music supervisor Sharon Boyle and Outpost Records co-head Mark Williams, also includes contributions by Los Lobos and its Latin Playboys spinoff, Tom Waits, DJ Shadow, Eels, Mavericks singer Raul Malo, Spain, Whiskeytown and Medeski, Martin & Wood. Ry Cooder, who did the haunting music for Wenders' "Paris, Texas," is doing the score. [...] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) 'Mensch-Maschine' album cover. Date: 10 May 1997 10:16:03 -0400 Kraftwerkians, The English 'Man-Machine' CD features the group on the front cover in their red shirts and grey pants. The same is true of the English vinyl edition. However, my German language 'Mensch-Maschine' CD features the band in tan (beige) pants rather than grey. Is this alteration in the coloring of the photo intentional for the German edition or just a printer's slip-up? Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill barnhill@easyway.net "I give you my affection and I give you my time..." P.S. - Does anyone happen to have the German lyrics for the 'Electric Cafe' album lying around? I'm mainly looking for the German lyrics for "Der Telefon Anruf", "Sex Objekt", and "Techno Pop". Thanks- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) Bartos' input on T.E.E.? Date: 10 May 1997 19:53:15 -0400 Cleopatra's 1993 re-issue of 'Trans-Europe Express', like their other two 1993 re-issues, contains some liner notes written by Dave Thompson, contributing editor of Alternative Press magazine. In these liner notes it says: "Recorded as a basic trio of Ralf Hutter, Florian Schneider and Wolfgang Flur, "Trans-Europe Express" relied absolutely upon the electronic instrumentation debuted on their last album, 1975's "Radio-Activity"..." Is this accurate? Did Karl really have virtually no input into the recording of T.E.E., and if so, how much more input could Wolfgang possibly have had? -- Scott M. Barnhill barnhill@easyway.net "From station to station..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lists@neox.demon.co.uk Subject: (kw) Tribal Gathering info Date: 10 May 1997 20:23:58 +0000 Readers of this list may find the following information interesting. Only two weeks to go! Jon. -- TRIBAL GATHERING MINI-FAQ v1.0 10 May '97 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Here is information for those travelling to see Kraftwerk (and many other excellent groups) at the 1997 Tribal Gathering. Tickets are still available from Mean Fiddler venues for =A335, though credit card sales are subject to a booking fee. It's now too late to order tickets by post. credit card bookings: tel 0171 344 0044 or 0541 500044 Where and When? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Luton Hoo Estate, Luton, Bedfordshire, U.K. Saturday May 24th the gates open at 12 Noon and the festival draws to a close at 8.30 the following morning. How to get there? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D By train: Go to Harpenden Station. Do NOT go to Luton Station. A shuttle bus service will take you between the rail station and the festival site. By coach: National Express Coaches are running direct services to the festival site from several towns and cities including London, Birmingham and Reading. bookings - tel 0990 808080 information - http://www.national-express.co.uk By road: Don't drive - cars are bad for the environment. But if you must, take the M1 to Junction 10, get on the A1081 and follow the signs for Tribal Gathering '97. Do not follow signs for Luton Hoo as the gate these signs leed to will be closed. You should be aware that the police will remove any cars found parked illegally. Other Information =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Disabled facilities are available. You will be body searched on entry - be sensible about what you try to take in - no illegal drugs, alcohol, weapons or sound / video recording equipment. There will be no re-admission to the site. For More Information =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Tribal Gathering telephone information line: 0181 963 0940 Tribal Gathering www site: http://www.universe.co.uk Kraftwerk www site: http://www.kraftwerk.com if you can't go, don't dispair - some, if not all, of Kraftwerk's set will be transmitted live on national BBC Radio One ( ) compiled by Jon Alsbury jon@neox.demon.co.uk sources: Mean Fiddler, Time Out Magazine. Jon Alsbury 'by pressing down a special key it plays a little melody' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) Tribal Gathering info Date: 11 May 1997 16:32:30 +0200 > if you can't go, don't dispair - some, if not all, of > Kraftwerk's set will be transmitted live on national BBC > Radio One ( ) > Who's gonna tape it? Damn, i wish i lived in the UK! Does someone has a decent DAT, a MiniDisc or even a HiFi Video Recorder? PLease Please Please?????? Laterz, Johan. -- God is a subwoofer, and he listen to drum & bass. Turn up thy religion! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: (kw) LP re-issues Date: 11 May 1997 12:22:39 -0400 (EDT) If you are thinking of getting the re-issues of the early LPs (Radioactivity, Man Machine,etc.) don't bother. The sound quality is second rate. Get a used copy of the originals. They must have made the re-issues from a second generation (or worse) master tape. They suck. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bruce M. Lloyd" Subject: (kw) Bootlegs? Date: 12 May 1997 02:25:47 -0400 Where does one get bootleg copies of live Kraftwerk performances? Is there a place to order them? How legal are they? Any help is appreciated! (Prices too please!) Bruce ---- Paradoxical state dependant associative phenomenon. (Or deja vu...) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Fjellström Subject: Re: (kw) Tribal Gathering info Date: 12 May 1997 08:26:27 +0100 > if you can't go, don't dispair - some, if not all, of > Kraftwerk's set will be transmitted live on national BBC > Radio One ( ) Oh, marvellous. I really love living in Sweden, right. I hope someone has the sense to record the broadcast so that even the lost souls of scandinavia and of course the rest of the international werkers can listen to the (new?) material. Am I out of line again? Love, Marcus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) Tribal Gathering info Date: 12 May 1997 04:22:20 -0400 Message text written by INTERNET:es28@Tannberg.Lycksele.SE >Oh, marvellous. I really love living in Sweden, right. I hope someone has the sense to record the broadcast so that even the lost souls of scandinavia and of course the rest of the international werkers can listen to the (new?) material. Am I out of line again?< Marcus, do not despair. I, and I'm sure other Uk residents, have arranged to have the broadcast taped while I'm there. so I'm sure we can make loads of copies. Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fermin Goiriz" Subject: (kw) KW Survey Date: 11 May 1997 09:33:53 +0200 SURVEY ON KRAFTWERK- RESULTS (SO FAR) THE ROBOTS 12.5 COMPUTER LOVE 10 MUSIC NON STOP 10 POCKET CALCULATOR 9 NUMBERS 7 TRANS EUROPE EXPRESS 6 THE MODEL 5 THE TELEPHONE CALL 5 METROPOLIS 5 NEON LIGHTS 5 COMPUTER WORLD 5 RADIOACTIVITY 5 TOUR DE FRANCE 5 ELECTRIC CAFE 4 AIRWAVES 4 TRANS EUROPE EXPRESS MIX VER 3 BOING BOOM TSCHAK 3 EUROPE ENDLESS 3 RUCKSACK 3 SEX OBJECT 3 TECHNOPOP 3 AUTOBAHN 3 METAL ON METAL 2 TASCHENRECHNER (specific) 2 ANTENNA 1 TECHNOPOP 1983 VER 1 KOMETENMELODIE 1 0.5 Thanks all who respond. (Please say three songs) Fermín Goiriz j021850503@abonados.cplus.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Knee Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk broadcast Date: 12 May 1997 09:58:22 +0100 Hi all, Don't despair. I will tape the broadcast. I have a DAT and access to cd burners etc. Steve Knee. Steve@cloudbass.demon.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) The Face on Kraftwerk Date: 12 May 1997 11:58:05 +0200 (DFT) Kraftwerk is featured in the May issue of The Face with a couple of photos and a short article. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Land Subject: (kw) Various Date: 12 May 1997 11:51:51 +0100 Hi there list members, First, I would like to say thank you to all those who have responded to = my previous messages on the Kraftwerk t-shirts. I initially had orders = for twenty shirts, but have only received confirmation and payment for a = very small fraction of this number. Please if you want a shirt let me = know ASAP, I will require your address and payment in advance. I will = let you have my postal address to send the cheque to when I have = received your confirmation and address, this way I can calculate the = correct postal amount and give you a fixed total sum. I will warn all = those of you in the USA though that shipping costs even by post are not = cheap, =A311.48 to be exact, so that makes =A331.48 for a t-shirt, = expensive even by UK standards! The next issue concerns the recording of Kraftwerk live at Tribal = Gathering. I will be arranging for this to be recorded to stereo video = on the night, after which I can copy the session to tape or CD. CD = recording is available at a reasonable cost as I have the contacts to = source the blank CD's at trade price. We usually use the Audiophile = quality 'Gold' discs to ensure the best recording. So don't fear, as = well as myself, I am sure that there will be others who will be = recording this show. Best Regards, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Puli@Planet.losandes.com.ar Subject: (kw) spanish electric cafe Date: 12 May 1997 10:39:48 -0400 >Does anybody know if a fully-Spanish-version of Electric Cafe actually exists? Nope, to the best of my knowledge the only one that exists is the Spanish release of 'Electric Cafe' which is essentially just the English version plus "Sex Object" sung in Spanish. - -- Scott I had the argentinian vinyl version but it was the same as the USA cd version with parts of the lyrics of "Sex object" and "Techno Pop" sung in spanish. Sergio Pulido Mailto:puli@planet.losandes.com.ar Come de mi, come de mi carne. Tomate el tiempo en desmenuzarme. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: fernando Subject: Re: (kw) spanish electric cafe Date: 12 May 1997 10:55:13 -0400 At 10.39a -0400 12.05.97, Puli@Planet.losandes.com.ar wrote: >>Does anybody know if a fully-Spanish-version of Electric Cafe actually >>exists? > > Nope, to the best of my knowledge the only one that exists is >the Spanish release of 'Electric Cafe' which is essentially just the >English version plus "Sex Object" sung in Spanish. > >- -- Scott > I had the argentinian vinyl version but it was the same as >the USA cd version with parts of the lyrics of "Sex object" and "Techno >Pop" sung in spanish. I saved this post from long ago... I hope that it is helpful. fernando 'Electric Cafe - Edicion Espanola' by Jose Garcia Corral Ativitaet 4 - August 1993 (Updated June 1996) Please note; Aktivitaet is unofficial and has no contact with Kraftwerk and their current members. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * I've been asked by several people about this Kraftwerk album, so I thought I could write a small article with info on this. In Spain, for several weeks after the release of the 'Electric Cafe' album, which was the usual version in English (with bits in Spanish, French and German), a rather odd release could be found in some stores in Barcelona: 'Electric Cafe - Edicion Espanola' (EMI, 074 24 0688 1) It was released in a gatefold sleeve and with an inner sleeve, like the usual English version. The only difference is that under the title 'Electric Cafe' on the front of the sleeve, there's the added title 'Edicion Espanola', in LCD calculator style lettering. The common version in English was also released on EMI, LP cat. no. 074 24 0644 1, as well as on cassette. A promo version of the English language version does exist. It might also exist for the 'Edicion Espanola' version. The 'Edicion Espanola' version was only available for a short period of time. It was a very limited pressing, as it wasn't a success in the Spanish charts! As far as I know it was only released in Spain and, to give you an idea of its rarity, a lot of Kraftwerk fans in Spain don't even know about its existence! Could have been released in other Spanish-speaking countries though, such as those in South America. The interest of this LP is its otherwise unobtainable version of 'Sex Object', which is sung in Spanish. The title of the song on the record label and back cover is not 'Objeto Sexual' as you would expect though. It has the same title as the English version, 'Sex Object'. It also features a slightly different version of 'Technopop', in which the verse sung by the human voice is always in Spanish. The 'Edicion Espanola' version was also released on cassette, cat. no. 274 2406884 -*- ~*~ -*- "Have you and her been taking pictures of your obsessions? because I met a kid who went through one of your sessions" -- Belle&Seb. "...and I wanted glamour not tragic rock n roll and I want a lover, who'll nail me to the wall." -- the Auteurs -*- ~*~ -*- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Calder <101460.571@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) BBC Radio 1FM documentary Date: 13 May 1997 03:07:52 EDT The UK BBC Radio 1 FM 'Kraftwerk Special' documentary (originally aired December 1995) *will* be repeated on Sunday 18 May - the time will be from 7.00-8.00pm. Ian Calder # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: (kw) Bad News?? Date: 13 May 1997 04:32:14 -0400 Hi Werkers, A snippet of news. UK London time out magazine has a pull-out festival guide for 1997 with a free CD (no kw track as usual) In their Tribal gathering coverage thy state that BBC radio 1 will broadcast for four hours. The bad news is that they only describe the broadcast as live sets from their resident dj's John peel and Pete Tong!! If this is true, we could only conclude that they may have been turned down by a certain R & F, as they would surely want to broadcast their set?? It also states that BBC radio 1 has more info on their web site. Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Future808@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) BBC UK/US Date: 13 May 1997 11:44:32 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-05-13 05:56:34 EDT, 101460.571@CompuServe.COM (Ian Calder) writes: << The UK BBC Radio 1 FM 'Kraftwerk Special' documentary (originally aired December 1995) *will* be repeated on Sunday 18 May - the time will be from 7.00-8.00pm. Ian Calder >> As has been posted about TG and it's taping for us here in the US and elsewhere, would anyone like to raise their hand and tape this show too? I'd be happy to do a 2:1 and pay postage both ways, trade, or just money for it. Being stuck out in Kansas, USA, there is little KW to be found. I'd sure love to hear from someone who could do the England/US trade thing! Future # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "CHIRIATTI CLAUDIO" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk gear Date: 13 May 1997 20:09:06 MET have you realized it ? Cre@mware brings out the Audiowerk8 Emagic brings out the Audiobahn Doepfer brings out the Regelwerk and the Schaltwerk i bet all these product names are hints that maybe KW is using this gear. what do you mean ? claudio Claudio G. Chiriatti e-mail:chir3301@uni-trier.de Civilization is the enemy of humanity Sturm und Klang fuer jedermann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "CHIRIATTI CLAUDIO" Subject: (kw) again gear Date: 13 May 1997 20:30:56 MET of course i know it is confirmed that KW is using new Doepfer and Quaisimidi gear. i want to hear what do you think about the other names. claudio Claudio G. Chiriatti e-mail:chir3301@uni-trier.de Civilization is the enemy of humanity Sturm und Klang fuer jedermann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Tapes of BBC & TG? Date: 13 May 1997 12:49:19 -0700 Hi, y'all! If any good samaritans in the UK can record the re-broadcast of the = KRAFTWERK special on BBC and get a tape of the Konzert, PLEASE send us = Amerikaners some MANNA from the Aether, okay? Those of us who can't = afford to FLY to England can atleast scrape up a few bucks for tapes. If = it would be cheaper, one could send a BUNCH of tapes to MY address and I = could send them within the states individually. Or, perhaps someone in = the states can mass-duplicate & distribute. No capitalism, please! Let's = just cover costs, okay? We can discuss prices and details via Email. = 'Just a suggestion, if it'll make things easier on everybody. -(Dumb = question, but- Are UK cassettes on a different "format" than American? I = know video tapes are different, and household current is 50 cycles = instead of 60.... whatever.)- Oh, and don't forget FOTOS!! I look = forward to AKTIVITAT #9! -(Hi, Ian! Don't dilly-dally with this next = ish!*drool*!)- May 24th, 2200 hours GMT. -(1500 PDT)- Would anyone care = to join me in Astral-Projecting to the Gig? I have to TRY, atleast. "The = time is 2200 hours Coordinated Universal = Time....BING-BING-BING-BING...." damn- where's my shortwave?? *sigh* "Wenn wellen schwingen, ferne stimmen singen...." ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -(Foto & Profile)- http://www.scifi.com -(I live in The DOMINION Lounge. Same Foto, = different Text.)- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Par.Ekelund@epk.ericsson.se (Par Ekelund) Subject: (kw) ruckzuck live? Date: 14 May 1997 08:19:40 +0200 Hi! I'm forwarding this mail from a friend who's not on the list. Regards Pär Hi! I just bought a record with Kraftwerk and I wonder what it might be worth. It is a live recording from Köln made 12.6.1971 The songs are: side a: ruckzuck part one. 22.00 side b: ruckzuck part two. 23.00 The record number is: Ruckzuck records 6305051. It is a limited edition of 250 copies and I got the 160th. It also contains a cetrificate that certifies that it is copy nr 160. White vinyl with the traffic cone in orange. So beautiful. It has no scratches or any defects and it is in perfect condition. I would be very pleased if anyone could tell me the worth of the record. I have found out nothing about it except from that it isn´t a bootleg. I can mention that I bought it for 149 sek. May the machines treat you nice. mats.bernesjoe@swipnet.se Regards Pär # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Farki Subject: (kw) Fluer and CrossTalk? Date: 14 May 1997 09:36:20 +0200 Hi All! In the credits of Elektric Music - Crosstalk CD single can be found: "Crosstalking to: ... Wolfgang Fluer ..." Was any connection between Fluer and the Crosstalk in '92 (or it just a friendly act by Bartos)? And what's the connection between Fluer and Bartos now? Any information or opinion? Thanks... - Farki - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Knee Subject: (kw) Recording Date: 14 May 1997 11:37:14 +0100 Hi, I will be recording of the radio, I can't make it to the gig. ;-( It should make for a good recording though. Cheers, Steve Knee. Steve@cloudbass.demon.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fermin Goiriz" Subject: (kw) Survey Update #2 Date: 14 May 1997 14:12:46 +0200 Este es un mensaje con múltiples partes en formato MIME. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC6070.E57B54C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Fermín Goiriz j021850503@abonados.cplus.es ------=_NextPart_000_01BC6070.E57B54C0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Survey.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Survey (Documento de texto) Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Survey.txt" THE ROBOTS 20.5 COMPUTER LOVE 16 THE MODEL 14 POCKET CALCULATOR 13 RADIOACTIVITY 12 AUTOBAHN 12 TOUR DE FRANCE 10 TRANS EUROPE EXPRESS 10 EUROPE ENDLESS 8 THE TELEPHONE CALL 7 COMPUTER WORLD 7 NUMBERS 7 MUSIC NON STOP 6 SHOWROOM DUMMIES 6 SPACELAB 5 METROPOLIS 5 NEON LIGHTS 5 ANTENNA 4 AIRWAVES 4 RUCKSACK 3 ELECTRIC CAFE 3 SEX OBJECT 3 TRANS EUROPE EXPRESS (MIX) 3 METAL ON METAL 3 RADIOLAND 3 PINEAPPLE EXPRESS 3 IT'S MORE FUN TO COMPUTE 3 MUSIC NON STOP (MIX) 2 FRANZ SCHUBERT 2 OHM SWEET OHM 2 TECHNOPOP 2 TASCHENRECHNER 2 TECHNOPOP 1983 VERSION 1 BOING BOOM TSCHAK 1 METAL ON METAL 1 TELEPHONE CALL 7" VERSION 1 KOMETENMELODIE 1 0.5 ------=_NextPart_000_01BC6070.E57B54C0-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) More on Kraftwerk & Wenders Date: 14 May 1997 16:45:14 +0200 (DFT) From http://www.wallofsound.com/news/stories/1461index.html: Monday, May 5, 1997 The End of Violence Soundtrack Lures in Big Names German director Wim Wenders, he of Wings of Desire and Faraway, So Close fame, has a well-earned reputation for landing top musical talent for the soundtracks of his films, and his latest project, The End of Violence, is no exception. The Los Angeles Times reports that Bono presented a song to Wenders just before U2's Pop-Mart tour kicked off in Las Vegas on April 25. The song, described as "aggressive" and "up-tempo," will be titled either "I'm Not Your Baby" or "The End of Violence." The tracks are getting shipped off to London, where Sinead O'Connor's vocals will be added. No word on whether it will be billed as a Bono and Sinead song or U2 and Sinead song, since the band did provide the music. In addition to U2 and O'Connor, the soundtrack will feature the pairing of R.E.M.'s Michael Stipe and Vic Chesnutt, the first new piece of music in ten years from German electronic gurus Kraftwerk, and an unreleased track by the late Roy Orbison. Other contributors include Tom Waits, Los Lobos (and their spin-off, the Latin Playboys), DJ Shadow, the eels, and many others. Ry Cooder, who wrote the lonesome sounds behind Wenders' Paris, Texas, will score the film, which stars Gabriel Byrne, Andie MacDowell, and Bill Pullman. It's set to hit theaters in September. From fido38.tv-film: Violence in LA - Wim Wenders says "The End of Violence," his new film being show at the Cannes Film Festival today, is about what he sees as one of the major products of Los Angeles. Violence, Wenders says, "is conceived, produced and distributed" in Los Angeles. Gabriel Byrne and Andie MacDowell star in the story of a former NASA computer programmer who tries to stop the FBI using a surveillance system he developed in an attempt to put an end to violence in the city. Bill Pullman plays a successful Hollywood producer of violent movies who is forced to go into hiding after the programmer crosses his path. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Calder <101460.571@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) 'Muzik' magazine Tribal Gathering article Date: 14 May 1997 11:45:10 EDT The June issue of the UK magazine 'Musik' contains a '12-Month Promoter's Diary' article on the preparation for this years event, with month by month text. Sadly, there isn't really much juicy info on exactly what it took to lure Kraftwerk to the event, though it is stated that KW are very much the cornerstone of this years event. There is a column abut Kraftwerk, but nothing new - just speculation as to exactly what their performance will involve; surprise, surprise - a reprise of the 'greatest hits' performance, a la the 1991-93 live shows. Ian Calder # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBOT260@aol.com Subject: (kw) Kwerk Date: 13 May 1997 20:42:46 -0400 (EDT) I heard a rumour that Kevin Lux will be doing a cover version of Spacelab on his next album? Has anyone heard anymore? The web site mentions no word of this as it is still showing "Robot Music" as the newest album. Judging by how he does sound similar to Kraftwerk in some ways, it could be good if it is reality. Only time will tell.. Peace, robot260 Here is the website address if you need it anyway, http://members.aol.com/KevinL1712/Music/KevinLux2.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) re: Tapes of BBC & TG Date: 13 May 1997 23:36:43 -0700 OOPS. Let me re-phrase my previous post. I did not mean that someone = should try to sneak in a tape recorder. Big no-no. Please, don't anybody = get themselves busted! NOT KooL. I meant IF -and ONLY if- they broadcast = the KW performance on BBC, it would be nice to tape it. But, it's highly = unlikely. As the date of The Rapture -(sic)- draws nearer, my PositroniK = Pathways are becoming inceasingly unstable.... unstable.... unstable.... = *Whirr-ClicK*ZAP*FzzT* WARNING: ELEKTRON OVERLOAD!*RrRrR*PffT*! "....help....me.... Dave? Dave? What. are. you. doing. Dave?" -(HAL = 9000)- ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -(Foto & Profile)- http://www.scifi.com -(I live in The DOMINION Lounge. Same Foto, = different Text.)- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Calder <101460.571@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) 'Future Music' magazine now out Date: 14 May 1997 12:33:47 EDT The June issue of the UK magazine 'Future Music' is now available, containing a Kraftwerk article. Ian Calder # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) New time schedule Date: 14 May 1997 18:57:55 +0200 (DFT) There was a minor change in the time schedule for the Kraftwerk concert at the Tribal Gathering (http://www.universe.co.uk/tribal97/index.htm). Old schedule: Start: 22:00 Finish: 0:00 New schedule: Start: 22:00 Finish: 23:30 Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anders Wilhelm Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk on ZTV-News... Date: 14 May 1997 19:09:22 +0200 (MDT) On the swedish tv-channel ZTV, a new Kraftwerk album was announced earlier today, the reporter said it was due for release in September. He also spoke about the tribal gathering concert, where they would appear with their "original setting". I do not know if he means that Bartos/Flur would be back... He also stated that some of this information originates from NMI. This is merely a report on what the media says, and not necessarily my own opinion. -- *************************************************************************** * Anders Wilhelm * mailto:dvlawm@cs.umu.se or trafo@analogue.org * * Umea University * http://www.cs.umu.se/~dvlawm * * Sweden * http://wilhelm.ml.org/ * *************************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: (kw) More Noooz Date: 14 May 1997 14:42:27 -0400 People, This weeks NME magazine reports that kw have confirmed a new album for September-ish, all new material, some of which has found its way to the E= MI office in London. Only two people were allowed to hear them!!! Also the report states that they will perform 4 NEW SONGS at TG Luton!!! The report also mentions the re-issues talked of previously on this list.= Hope they've got their facts right.................... Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lists@neox.demon.co.uk Subject: (kw) BBC Kraftwerk broadcast Date: 12 May 1997 18:02:09 +0000 Satalite TV receivers in europe can be tuned to find BBC Radio One on ASTRA. UK Living 10.979 V 34 60 80 09-00 PAL 7.02/7.20 Panda -- BBC Radio One 7.38/7.58 Panda so you can all hear the documentary on Sunday evening and, maybe, the gig the weekend after! Jon Alsbury 'by pressing down a special key it plays a little melody' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lists@neox.demon.co.uk Subject: (kw) TG info (update) Date: 13 May 1997 21:25:18 +0000 --Message-Boundary-26910 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body updated TG info for the use of. i'll stop posting this stuff here and put it up on a web page in future. Jon Alsbury 'by pressing down a special key it plays a little melody' --Message-Boundary-26910 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Content-description: Text from file 'tribal mini faq 2.txt' TRIBAL GATHERING MINI-FAQ v1.1 13th May '97 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Here is information for those travelling to see Kraftwerk (and many other excellent groups) at the 1997 Tribal Gathering. Tickets are still available from Mean Fiddler venues for =A335, though credit card sales are subject to a booking fee. It's now too late to order tickets by post. credit card bookings: tel 0171 344 0044 or 0541 500044 Where and When? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Luton Hoo Estate, Luton, Bedfordshire, U.K. Saturday May 24th the gates open at 12 Noon and the festival draws to a close at 8.30 the following morning. How to get there? =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D By train: Go to Harpenden Station. Do NOT go to Luton Station. A shuttle bus service will take you between the rail station and the festival site. By coach: National Express Coaches are running direct services to the festival site from several towns and cities including London, Birmingham and Reading. bookings - tel 0990 808080 information - http://www.nationalexpress.co.uk/tribal.htm By road: Don't drive - cars are bad for the environment. But if you must, take the M1 to Junction 10, get on the A1081 and follow the signs for Tribal Gathering '97. Do not follow signs for Luton Hoo as the gate these signs leed to will be closed. You should be aware that the police will remove any cars found parked illegally. Other Information =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Disabled facilities are available. You will be body searched on entry - be sensible about what you try to take in - no illegal drugs, alcohol, weapons or sound / video recording equipment. There will be no re-admission to the site. For More Information =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Tribal Gathering telephone information line: 0181 963 0940 Tribal Gathering www site: http://www.universe.co.uk TG Trans-Europe stage: http://www.universe.co.uk/tribal97/europe.htm Kraftwerk www site: http://www.kraftwerk.com BBC Radio One program schedules: http://www.bbc.co.uk/index/radio/radio1az.htm If you can't go, don't dispair - there is the possibility that some, if not all, of Kraftwerk's set will be transmitted live on national BBC Radio One (97.6 - 99.8 MHz FM). Radio One is carried by the ASTRA satalite in the skies above Europe: UK Living 10.979 V 34 60 80 09-00 PAL 7.02/7.20 Panda - Radio One 7.38/7.58 Panda See you there! compiled by Jon Alsbury jon@neox.demon.co.uk sources: Mean Fiddler, Time Out Magazine. --Message-Boundary-26910-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: resin@tuna.net Subject: (kw) bbc/tg/ra. Date: 15 May 1997 11:38:00 +0600 if some one tapes the BBC kraftwerk special, encodes it, and sends it to me i will put it up on my webpage (http://www.tuna.net/lemon) as a realaudio file. how does that sound? i posted this about a week ago, and didnt get much response. if your box is wired for sound, and you have internet access, you can download the realaudio player for free. this means it would be super easy to hear the radio show and the tribal broadcast. if anyone is interested in recording and encoding some of the upcomming kraftwerk audio events, let me know. darren all terrain sound nyc. http://www.tuna.net/lemon email:resin@tuna.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: (kw) bbc/tg/ra. Date: 15 May 1997 04:10:04 -0400 Message text written by INTERNET:resin@tuna.net >if some one tapes the BBC kraftwerk special, encodes it, and sends it to= me i will put it up on my webpage (http://www.tuna.net/lemon) as a realaudio= file. how does that sound?< Sounds good, but as I mentioned earlier, you probably won't have to encod= e it. BBC radio 1 transmits via ra all the time. Jusdt log on when the show= is on and save the ram file to your disk!!! Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daneel Olivaw Subject: Re: (kw) re: Tapes of BBC & TG Date: 16 May 1997 05:47:54 +0600 At 11:36 PM 5/13/97 -0700, ROBOT wrote: >OOPS. Let me re-phrase my previous post. I did not mean that someone should try to sneak in a tape recorder. Big no-no. Screw that! At all costs, someone must tape this show, even if it's not someone from the list!! Emmett epepper@vt.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard.Poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk Subject: (kw) A prediction Date: 15 May 1997 12:15:23 I've had my Tribal Gathering ticket for a while now, and I'm really looking forward to it. However, I have a sneaky suspicion that those of us that saw Kraftwerk in '81 and '91 are going to be mighty disappointed. Just as well that Orbital and Way Out West are on then! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Land Subject: RE: (kw) A prediction Date: 15 May 1997 16:47:01 +0100 My sentiments exactly Richard, I mentioned on the list some time ago that as KW have not given us any = evidence to look forward to new material, then TG could be a very = disappointing event. But like you say, there is plenty of other = attractions well worth checking out. My itinerary for the event is as = follows: Planet Earth DJ Sneak 22:15 to 00:00 Orbital 00:00 to 01:30 Daft Punk 03:00 to 03:45 Dave Angel 03:45 to 05:45 Laurent Garnier 05:45 to 08:30 Sahara Byron Stinglly 21:30 to 22:00 Detroit Juan Atkins 00:50 to 02:15 Aux 88 02:15 to 02:50 Richie Hawtin 02:50 to 04:30 Jeff Mills 06:00 to 08:30 Trans Europe Kraftwerk 22:00 to 23:30 Trans Atlantic Masters At Work 23:30 to 02:30 S-Men 05:30 to 07:00 Arctic Felix Da Housecat 20:00 to 21:30 Dave Clarke 03:15 to 04:00 As you can see, there are a few clashes, but this gives me the option of = moving to a different tent if one show is crap! Now that the t-shirt idea has unfortunately not worked out in time for = TG, it is going to be extremely hard to know who is who, but anyway, = enjoy, enjoy, enjoy!! Best Regards, Craig.=20 ---------- Richard.Poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk[SMTP:Richard.Poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk] Sent: 15 May 1997 13:15 I've had my Tribal Gathering ticket for a while now, and I'm really = looking forward to it. However, I have a sneaky suspicion that those of us that = saw Kraftwerk in '81 and '91 are going to be mighty disappointed. Just as well that Orbital and Way Out West are on then! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original = sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: (kw) A prediction Date: 15 May 1997 12:26:32 -0400 Message text written by INTERNET:Richard.Poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk >I've had my Tribal Gathering ticket for a while now, and I'm really looking forward to it. However, I have a sneaky suspicion that those of us that s= aw Kraftwerk in '81 and '91 are going to be mighty disappointed. Just as well that Orbital and Way Out West are on then!< I've had the same thoughts, but these are blown away by another one. = This_may_be_one_of_the_last_times_we_may_see_them !!!!! Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: Re: (kw) New time schedule Date: 15 May 1997 17:13:21 +0000 Klaus Zaepke was saying: >Old schedule: >Start: 22:00 Finish: 0:00 >New schedule: >Start: 22:00 Finish: 23:30 > Klaus Zaepke Oooo, the SCUM! I wonder was this a R+F decision, or a TG decision.... -- /=======================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | | Influence and inspiration from : | | Jarre Vangelis Tomita Carlos Erasure Pinhas TangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.co.uk/customers/Alliance)| \=======================================================================/ "Recursion : see Recursion" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) New time schedule Date: 16 May 1997 04:22:02 -0400 Message text written by Brendan Heading >>New schedule: >Start: 22:00 Finish: 23:30< I don't care as long as I get to see 'em. I think its great. I and others also want to see Orbital. = This gives us half hour to recover!!!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Adam (L) Read" Subject: (kw) At least a photo or 2.. Date: 16 May 1997 21:13:12 +1000 All in the UK. Is any one here going to take a few photos of the T.G. event. I know an audio is illegal and pretty much out of the question (immediatly), but if someone could post a few snaps of the night, those of us near the bottom of the world (Sydney) might feel a little better after 24/5. I look forward to detailed reports from those who will be 'at the front' Adam # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Calder <101460.571@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) 'KLANGBOX 101' - The EMI Kraftwerk boxed set - details. Date: 16 May 1997 14:12:17 EDT I've had a phone call tonight from a contact who has received a copy of the EMI promo box set. Here's the details; The four 12" singles come in a cardboard box - black on the outside and inside too. The front has the familiar robot logo (a la the WWW pages and 'The Mix' sleeve) printed in white, with 'Kraftwerk' in the familiar jaggy bit-mapped logo. Inside, the 'KLANGBOX 101' logo is also printed. Each of the 12" singles comes in a sleeve - same design again except they are white with black print. (The sleeves are like album cover thickness, not the flimsy 12" single thickness like normal releases.) Details for each single are; EMI KLANGDJ101 'Trans-Europe Express'/'Trans-Europe Express' (Instrumental) EMI KLANGDJ102 'Numbers'/'Numbers' EMI KLANGDJ103 'Musique Non Stop'/'Music Non Stop' EMI KLANGDJ104 'Home Computer'/'It's More Fun To Compute' Are far as I am aware, all the tracks are the original mixes as per the original albums - though I'm not absolutely 100% certain on this regarding 'Musique Non Stop' - maybe it's 'The Mix' version. However, they are not brand new remixes, that's for sure. The set also comes complete with a T-shirt; It too is black, with the robot logo, printed in silver this time. Ian Calder # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Calder <101460.571@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) NME news item Date: 16 May 1997 14:12:00 EDT I'm sure that others have already mailed this info, but as I am subscribed to the digest version I can't be sure, here's the details anyway... The new issue of the NME music paper (issue dated 17.5.97) contains a short report on the new Kraftwerk releases schedued from EMI; 'KRAFTWERK have confirmed that they are working on new material for an album with a tentative release date set for September. In addition the band are to have all their albums reissued with additional tracks to mark their Tribal Gathering appearance on May 24. Band members Ralf Hutter and Florian Schneider will be joined at Tribal Gathering by musicians Fritz Hilpert and Henning Schmitz, who accompanied the band on their UK dates promoting 'The Mix' in 1991. They plan to play four new songs during their performance. NME understands that tapes of three new Kraftwerk tracks have been received by the band's London record compy, EMI. they were recorded at the band's Kling Klang studio in Dusseldorf. Security is tight with only two employeesof the company said to have heard it. The first Kraftwerk re-issue, 'The Man Machine', will be released on June 2. The album, originally issued in 1978, will come with an extra CD featuring three german vocal versions of old Kraftwerk songs... ...('Neon Licht', 'Das Model', 'Die Roboter')... It will be followed in July by repackaged versions of 'radio-Activity' and 'Trans-Europe Express', both featuring extra tracks. EMI also plan to release four limited edition 12" singles to coincide with Tribal Gathering. There will be only 250 copies each of: 'Trans- Europe Express' backed by an instrumental B-side; 'Numbers' and Musique non Stop' (both backed by the same track) and 'Home Computer' backed by 'It's More Fun To Compute'. They will be packaged in a box with a free T-shirt.' From the NME, 17.5.97 Ian Calder # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fermin Goiriz" Subject: (kw) KW 12" boxset Date: 16 May 1997 23:36:13 +0200 Hi, Does anybody where or how to buy this 12" box set? Thanks. Fermín Goiriz j021850503@abonados.cplus.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) 'KLANGBOX 101' - The EMI Kraftwerk boxed set - details Date: 18 May 1997 10:56:54 +0000 > EMI KLANGDJ101 > 'Trans-Europe Express'/'Trans-Europe Express' (Instrumental) Are there any details known about what exactly this instrumental version is? Just "Metal On Metal" or a new or previously unreleased version? > EMI KLANGDJ102 > 'Numbers'/'Numbers' The same edit on both sides? > EMI KLANGDJ103 > 'Musique Non Stop'/'Music Non Stop' Was this a misprint, or is it really "Musique" (like the 1986 version) on side A and "Music" (like the 1991 version) on side B? > Are far as I am aware, all the tracks are the original mixes as per the > original albums Are they absolutely identical with the album versions, or are they edits? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) ArtWERK Alert! Date: 18 May 1997 03:00:25 -0700 Dear Fellow Listoids, Does anybody want some fun ArtWERK? Email me! I finally got my husband = to scan 2 drawings for me- I did a quick sketch of my "K-shirt" design = earlier today [36K], and I found the drawing I did a few weeks ago of = Ralf & Florian at the Rocky Horror Picture Show! [45K] It's HilArious! I = figure maybe it'll help cheer up those of us who are unable to make the = Pilgrimage to The Gig of The Millennium. -(Many thanks to Brendan = Heading and any others who are TAPING it! They probably wont air KW's = 90-minute set, {cut by 1/2 an hour?!! phooey!}, but, BBC will be = broadcasting atleast SOME portions of TG's other performances.)- I will = be there in Spirit. Definitely. Also, my K-philes were recently re-scanned, re-shrunk, and re-shuffled. = Detailed descriptions are listed in Klaus Zaepke's KW On-Line Library. = NOTE: each article now takes up a lot LESS bandwidth than what is = indicated in the Library list. So, if anybody wants my articles and/or = drawings, just ask! I might be persuaded to make more K-shirts in = exchange for any KW tapes I don't have, or Posters, etc. -(If you don't = mind the hastilly drawn imperfeKtions on the small-scale drawing, you = could print it out, enlarge it, clean it up, and have it printed onto a = heat transfer and iron it onto the t-shirt of your choice, but, trust = me, it looks better when I hand draw each one diectly onto a shirt at = full-scale.)- whatever WERKs. In the words of Columbo: "Uh, just one more thing...." If Anders Wilhelm = doesn't want The MAN.MACHINE re-issue on CD that I picked up for him = several weeks ago, -(he disappeared!)-, perhaps someone ELSE might be = interested. -(I really don't NEED a 3rd copy of M.M in Englisch.)- It's = unopened. I paid exactly $15, including tax. I'll trade it for a Deutsch = version CD of CW or M.M. I was told they cost about $25 apiece, so, I = can throw in a black on yellow or yellow/orange K-shirt to make up $10 = worth of difference. Um, add postage- overseas can be expensive! = -(Silver on black is worth $20 because they take atleast 8-10 hours over = several days to make and fabric paint ain't cheap, and I'm on LOW = income.)- I want the KLINGKLANG box set, too! Then I can have a REAL = "professional" type t-shirt to wear. So, Let's Make a Deal! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -(Foto & Profile)- http://www.scifi.com -(I live in The DOMINION Lounge. Same Foto, = different Text.)- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Universe on Kraftwerk Date: 18 May 1997 12:47:20 +0000 From http://www.universe.co.uk/voyager/comms/427.htm : > Transmitted by Ian@Universe on 15 May, 1997 at 23:39:10: > > Kraftwerk took a long time, for me to get them to play about three years. > They are the godfathers of electronic music, it play be the first time they > have played for the generation they inspired.And new tracks too. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) New concert rumour Date: 18 May 1997 13:40:56 +0000 Kraftwerk are rumoured to play a concert in Karlsruhe this autumn, to accompany the release of their new record. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: (kw) TG in RealAudio !!! Date: 18 May 1997 15:06:40 -0400 Hello All, BBC Radio 1 WILL transmit the kw set at TG, and their www site will also transmit in RealAudio!!! Transmit time 10:30 GMT So those who can't make it will be able to hear the set live!!!! Maybe the ram file can be saved to produce CD quality recording??? Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Calder <101460.571@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) BBC Radio 1 Kraftwerk special Date: 18 May 1997 15:04:03 EDT The BBC Radio 1 Kraftwerk special was just a repeat of the December 1995 edition - no change to reflect recent activities. However... It did mention at the end that we can hear Kraftwerk play live at Tribal Gathering on Radio 1 from 10.30pm next Saturday night. Synchronise watches, gentlemen... Ian Calder # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gako.potter@argonet.co.uk ( Mr G J Potter) Subject: (kw) BBC Radio 1 confirms Date: 18 May 1997 19:23:25 Just listened to the BBC Radio 1 Kraftwerk programme and they have said: "Kraftwerk will be playing live for the first time in five years at the Tribal gathering in Luton to be broadcast live exclusively on Radio 1 next Saturday" I am assuming they mean Kraftwerk, but this message (from memory) is a bit inconclusive... However, if they don't broadcast it then I will sue them for misrepresentation!!! Geoff Potter -- Microsoft, Intel, and Apple-free zone _ _ _ __ _ __ _| | _____ _ __ ___ | |_| |_ ___ _ __ / _` |/ _` | |/ / _ \ | '_ \ / _ \| __| __/ _ \ '__|gako.potter@argonet.co.uk | (_| | (_| | < (_) || |_) | (_) | |_| || __/ | Acorn Domestic \__, |\__,_|_|\_\___(_) .__/ \___/ \__|\__\___|_| Centre of Technology |___/ |_| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) re: M.M CD Date: 18 May 1997 11:56:28 -0700 Okay, Anders Wilhelm just Emailed me, and he DOES still want the English = version M.M CD, so, I'll hold it for him as promised. -(Apologies to = anyone else who wanted to grab it, but, he DID claim it first.)- In case = anyone else is trying to contact Anders, he's been having trouble with = his server and couldn't get through. I'm anxious to see how his KW = interview turns out! And to all you Lucky Dawgs who are on yer way to the Konzert, all I can = say is.... *THBBBBBBPT*!! :|>--- Big ROBORASPBERRY!! pFFeh!! You Lucky Devils you! *grrrr* -(The Jealous Green Monster rears it's ugly head.)- Just take some good FoToS and share 'em with us less fortunate ones, = okay? *nYRk*FiZZle*pFFt-DING*! ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -(Foto & Profile)- http://www.scifi.com -(I live in The DOMINION Lounge. Same Foto, = different Text.)- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 13:33:08 -0700 From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) TG in RealAudio !!! OMIGODOMIGODOMIGOD!!! I'm FREAKING!!! Okay, I'm an Idiot, so, how do I access it? -(HELP!!)- Do I have to = download any special software first, or do I just type in the url and go = to this BBC website at the appointed time? -(PDT=3DGMT-7)- How do I SAVE = it?? -(Yeah, Brendan is taping it for me, but, it would be nice to have = it in my K-philes!)- Man, I GOTTA hear it LIVE!! I'm gonna be firmly = attatched to this Computer for the duration. I wanna hear some of the = other bands at TG, too. But, I MUST get KW on my Hard-Drive!! YESS!! = Thanks for the wonderful news! Let's hope they don't fickle out and = disappoint us, eh? Think POSITIVE.*sigh*. I'm SO excited!! I'm PSYCHED! = I'm THERE, Dude! Please keep us all posted! -(I'm always in the dark, = so, I need all the info I can get!)- ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -(Foto & Profile)- http://www.scifi.com -(I live in The DOMINION Lounge. Same Foto, = different Text.)- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Regor@webtv.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Roger_D=E9ziel?=) Subject: (kw) New "werker". Date: 18 May 1997 21:20:53 -0400 Hi everybody ! This is my first message to the list and I am so glad that I found you! Already I got the info about next saturday and you can be sure I will be glued to the net to hear Kraftwerk LIVE! My first CD was "THE MIX". I had heard about Kraftwerk but never bought anything from them. I read that they had a kind of a "best of" out, so I made=A0the move. I was BOWLED OVER and I am still amazed at the musicality and the sound quality of that CD. This is still their last CD available in Canada and now that I am on the list I won't have to go to the record store every week to check if their new CD is out. Anybody can let me know "how many hundreds" are on the list? Keep the kw spirit alive and I can't wait to "read" more from you! -- Roger Regor@webtv.net Using WebTV=99 since 01/09/97 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skylink3@aol.com Subject: (kw) VOX Date: 18 May 1997 22:44:32 -0400 (EDT) I am new and I don't know if this was already mentioned but, in the magazine VOX, one of the members of Prodigy said some very not so nice things about Kraftwerk, then Aphex twin joined in the Kraftwerk bashing. But Orbital and Chemical Brothers saved the day by giving KW much praise. Also, I make music so I am interested if anyone knows what gear Kraftwerk currently uses or if they still make alot of their own synths. any info would be nice. Ted # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Datta Subject: (kw) Please ID this bootleg Date: 16 May 1997 18:46:42 -0500 Does anyone know what is on this? a blue vinyl 12", absolutely no text or labels, all ID numbers filed off. a orange card that says: computerkraft sticker on clear sleeve says: Kraftwerk remixes it appears to be just 2 tracks, 1 per side. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: majortom@tubemaster-records.com (Michael Wesemann) Subject: (kw) New electronic Music on my Website - CD available Date: 18 May 1997 12:06:00 GMT Hello, after having recieved many requests form my old electronic music page from people who wanted to get my songs I finally got round to compiling a CD with what I consider my best tracks. I've put up a new website containing samples of all of them. So you can listen to them and if you really want you can get a CD from me too :-) http://www.tubemaster-records.com/majortom This is a pretty quick server in the USA and I have converted the samples to 22 Khz/8 Bit Mono so download time should acceptable. =46or those of you who do not know my old page I make rythmic electronic music with a portion of groove. The reason why I'm announcing this on the KW list first is because KW has been my main and strongest inspiration to make music since I first heard them in 1979. Synthetic electronic sounds combined with grooving rythmns have a magical impact on me and nobody does this better and purer than KW. Though my music is no copy of KW - I think it is impossible to do this even if you want to - it is made in spirit of them and I guess if you like KW there might be a chance that you like my music too. Enjoy! Michael life's work in music at http://www.tubemaster-records/majortom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Land Subject: (kw) T-Shirts Date: 19 May 1997 09:24:28 +0100 Hi there all, Just to let you all know that I will be easy to recognize at Tribal = Gathering as I have managed to come up with a quick t-shirt design for = the event. It is nothing spectacular, but at least other fellow members = will be able to come and speak to me, that's if they want to! The shirt will be white with kraftwerk@xmission.com printed in black LED = type text on the reverse side, on the breast of the shirt will be an = image of a traffic cone with Kraftwerk again printed in black LED type = text underneath. These shirts are a sample of what I will be able to put out, so any = design requests you may have will be appreciated. Oh, by the way, there = will be two of us wearing these shirts at TG, I am the one with the = short hair though! My mate who will be with me has long hair, much like = early Ralph and Florian. Best Regards, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) Please ID this bootleg Date: 19 May 1997 12:10:35 +0200 >a blue vinyl 12", absolutely no text or labels, all ID numbers filed off. >a orange card that says: > computerkraft > >sticker on clear sleeve says: > Kraftwerk remixes > >it appears to be just 2 tracks, 1 per side. > This is one of the 'house mixes' that were done on Kraftwerk tracks. It's a sort of official bootleg. It has been mentioned in the list a couple of times. Statik. -- "I doubt, therefore I might be..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darren Barwise Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Concert on MTV? Date: 18 May 1997 22:10:40 +0000 Hi all, Does anybody know which parts of Tribal gathering are being shown on MTV Europe? Is there any chance that any of the Kraftwerk concert could be shown? Does anyone know of a web page where to look for information on who's going to be shown? Thanks, Darren # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Land Subject: (kw) Tribal Gathering Date: 19 May 1997 11:52:11 +0100 Hello to everyone, I was watching a program on Sky 1 at the weekend called Hit-Mix, it is a = chart show covering all types of music. They mentioned that they will = be covering the TG event in some detail, although no mention was made to = anything specific. It seems that most music shows are going to cover this event, so I am = sure that we can all compile a serious catalogue of Kraftwerk clips, = should all these shows cover the KW gig. Does anyone have a release date for the Kraftwerk box set yet? Regards, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fermin Goiriz" Subject: (kw) Tribal on RealAudio Date: 19 May 1997 13:02:20 +0200 Hi all, For those of us Internet-illiterates, could anyone explain step-by-step how to access the kw's gig via BBC Radio One on Internet? Thanks Fermín Goiriz j021850503@abonados.cplus.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Power Subject: (kw) Radio 1 documentary Date: 19 May 1997 13:00:22 +0100 Dear All, If there is anyone in the UK who managed to tape the documentary last night, please E mail me privately as, being the stupid bugger that I am, I forgot that the doc was on. I'd especially like a copy as it was hearing this in Nov. '95 that turned me into a 'Werker! BTW, a little thought concerning R&F's recent activity....maybe they should change the name of their company to Kling Klang (lack of) produkt! Ta ta for now Alien Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: Re :(kw) Tribal on RealAudio Date: 19 May 1997 07:58:21 -0400 Hi all, this is a copy of messages mailed to various list members :- You need to go to the radio 1 web site at : http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/ Read whats going on live, and what is currently streaming in realaudio. Go to the 'listening booth' to find out what realaudio is available. They have a large selection. Each section has a ram file. To save it to the HD click with the right button and select 'save target as' Save the ram file to your prefered place. Now. To listen you can run it through the realaudio player found at www.real.com. I think you may be able to download and listen at the same time if you use the player only. You may have to download the player and fiddle about during the week. I don't have it myself. Hope this little bit helps. Be thinking of y'all while I'm watching the show (and taking photos) If the photos are any good, I might get duplicates if you're interested. Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Land Subject: (kw) Calling All Tekkies! Date: 19 May 1997 14:47:05 +0100 Hi there everyone, I have been having problems with downloading Real Audio files recently, = my player is correctly installed but I keep getting error code 19. I = have discovered what the problem is, it is because I am behind a = Corporate Firewall and the terms and conditions of the connection with = the Internet provider is that Real Audio and Real Movie files are not to = be downloaded. Are there any other options open to me where I can download music files? Many thanks, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Please ID this bootleg Date: 19 May 1997 18:44:45 +0000 > Does anyone know what is on this? > a blue vinyl 12", absolutely no text or labels, all ID numbers filed off. Side 1: Trans Europe Express (unauthorized remix) Side 2: Home Computer (unauthorized remix) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: (kw) Offline for a brief period Date: 19 May 1997 17:47:01 +0000 Local election coming up here, folks, and this 'puter of mine is being used in the local headquarters for keeping trax of canvass type things. I won't be able to answer email for 2-3 days. Hang in there! ;-) -- /=======================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | | Influence and inspiration from : | | Jarre Vangelis Tomita Carlos Erasure Pinhas TangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.co.uk/customers/Alliance)| \=======================================================================/ 667: The Neighbor of the Beast # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) No RealAudio on BBC Radio1?? Date: 19 May 1997 11:03:09 -0700 > ---------- > From: ROBOT > To: VLC > Subject: KRAFTWERK/Tribal Gathering on BBC Radio > Date: 18 May 1997 10:49 >=20 *$@%#*!!!! I asked the BBC people about Radio1 in RealAudio, -(now = called PlayAudio?)-, and this is the response I just received.... Can I = have a nervous break down now, or is there another way to access it?? ROBOT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>> > From: Graeme Roberts > To: ROBOT > Subject: RE: KRAFTWERK/Tribal Gathering on BBC Radio1 > Date: Monday, May 19, 1997 9:57 AM >=20 >=20 > I am afraid that at the moment the only Real Audio service the BBC = offers is=20 > the World Service. > BBC WORLD SERVICE and the INTERNET >=20 > The BBC has recently signed a contract with ICL for the provision of a > commercially funded Internet service. The service will provide news > (including World Service news), sport, entertainment, weather, etc. = It > will carry advertising and there will be an on-line shopping = component. > It is anticipated that the service will launch during 1997. There = will > be a substantial audio streaming element, although we are unable to = say > at the moment, apart from the news in English, what World Service > programmes are likely to be available initially. Further = announcements > will be made on the general BBC Web pages >=20 >=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) 'The Model' retrospective hidden photo. Date: 19 May 1997 20:32:19 -0400 Hi there. As many of you know, there were two different versions of Cleopatra's 'The Model' retrospective (CLEO57612) that were released in 1992. The earlier of the two featured an illustration of a mannequin suspended in the air on the front cover, with neon lighting surrounding it on the back. The second of the two retrospectives featured pictures of the 4 band members at their consoles, taken from the band's video for "The Model". For those of you who have this second version of the cd, I was surprised to find that underneath the black plastic tray that holds the cd there was a full black & white photo underneath, complete with the words "retrospective 1975-1978" going vertically down the spine. Normally there are clear see-through plastic trays included with cd's like this that have pictures underneath, but for some reason it came with the standard solid black tray instead, causing the photo to be obscured and hidden. I substituted a clear plastic tray for the black one and now it looks much better. :) Maybe this is something that many of you were already aware of, but I hadn't found it until I stumbled across it by accident, so I'm posting this for those of you who hadn't discovered it yet. By the way, the black & white photo under the disc tray is the infamous picture of the 4 KW mannequin silhouettes standing at their consoles with their neon-lit names under them, the same picture from the front cover of Cleopatra's "Showroom Dummies" cd ep. Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill barnhill@easyway.net "Wir sind Schaufensterpuppen..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) BBC programme schedule for the Tribal Gathering Date: 20 May 1997 07:31:42 +0000 Here's an excerpt from the BBC Radio 1 programme schedule for May 24th, taken from http://www.bbc.co.uk: 18.30 TRIBAL GATHERING. Pete Tong has a live warm-up to tonight's festivities, including snapshots of the Tribal Gathering scene, and a live DJ set by our own John Peel. 21.00 MUSIC LIVE 97 - THE MANIC STREET PREACHERS. 22.30 TRIBAL GATHERING. Radio 1 spends the night at Tribal Gathering, the annual festival held at the Luton Hoo Estate in Bedfordshire. Year on year, Tribal has been seen as the festival to go to, and 1997 promises to be the best yet, with a line-up including Orbital, Daft Punk, and Kraftwerk - the band that set it all off - plus DJs from all over the globe. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) No RealAudio on BBC Radio1?? Date: 20 May 1997 04:25:29 -0400 ROBOT, The BBC is a massive company which spreads worldwide dealing in TV, Radio and world news services. In fact I think it is the biggest. So I doubt if one department knows what the others are doing. but certainly BBC radio 1 DOES, repeat DOES broadcast in realaudio. the department you post mentions is the World service, which is an entirely separate entity to the BBC main. they don't even share the same offices. As in my last post, you need to select the 'Listening Booth' in the www.bbc.co.uk/radio1 page. In there you will find pointers to .ram files. These are RealAudio files which can be listened to or downloaded for future use. To get the latest player, go to www.real.com Now, the only problem is whether they will actually broadcast the Event live via realaudio. they are certainly broadcasting everything else via realaudio. I logged on this morning and listened to Mark Radcliffe and Lard live, whilst also listening on my Sony. On the BBC Radio 1 main page there is a flyer at the bottom which tells you what is being broadcast live at the present. Hope this clears it up, Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: (kw) Wolfgang ?, WOLFGANG ?? Date: 20 May 1997 04:48:22 -0400 Hi everybody, I'm surprised nobody has picked this up. Does anyone know any more about the statement in UK Future music magazine that Wolfgang Flur will join kw on stage at the TG??? Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Andreas Schuldt" Subject: (kw) YAMO? Date: 20 May 1997 13:31:20 +1000 Just forwarding this interesting question to U all: (I'm also interested in the answer) // Andreas From: churn@imap2.asu.edu Organization: Arizona State University Newsgroups: alt.music.synthpop Does anyone else know about the band Yamo? I have the "mosquito" cd single and the full length cd (by freak accident mismarked $9.99 as an import! Saw it today re-marked for $27.99) Anyway Wolfgang Flur from Kraftwerk is in the band. I found out from the owner of a cool little record store in Phoenix. She keeps an eye out for Kraftwerk-related stuff for me. The music is good. VERY quirky, very strange. Very crisp, clean synth sounds and I can't explain this but parts of it remind me of Japanese Pop music. High pitched voices. I want to find out more about the band but have found NOTHING on the internet. Please help, I'm a huge Kraftwerk fan! Dan Andreas Schuldt Tornavaegen 3:501 223 63 Lund , SWEDEN Tel./Fax. +46 (0)46-396744 (Home) Mobile. +46 (0)705-189146 Fax. +46 (0)46-146066 (Helsingkrona Nation) skylt@hb.lu.se or cim92sa0@stud.msek.lth.se # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Liethen Subject: (kw) Can't listen to TG, plea for help! Date: 20 May 1997 07:27:01 -0600 Hello all, From what I've heard and seen, is that the Kraftwerk concert probably will be brodcasted in Realaudio on the 24th (In 4 days!) I'm not going to be in town, let alone near a computer with a internet connection during that time. Is anyone going to save the .ram file and re-post it on the internet (even if you don't have a RA server, you can still download it) Please, please, I would feel realy bad if I do miss this event, so someoen, record it, save it, whatever, but I just need to hear it! -Peter Liethen pliethen@globaldialog.com http://www.globaldialog.com/~pliethen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fermin Goiriz" Subject: (kw) RV: Tribal Gathering Date: 20 May 1997 15:01:27 +0200 Kraftwerkers watch this.... ---------- > De: Graeme Roberts > A: Fermin Goiriz > Asunto: RE: Tribal Gathering > Fecha: martes 20 de mayo de 1997 14:05 > > > No.At the moment only World Service is available on the Internet. > ---------- > From: Fermin Goiriz > To: graeme.roberts > Subject: Tribal Gathering > Date: 20 May 1997 11:07 > > Hi! Is BBC One going to broadcast Kraftwerk's gig on Tribal Gathering this > Sat 24 via Internet? Thanks. > Fermin Goiriz > j021850503@abonados.cplus.es> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) Can't listen to TG, plea for help! Date: 20 May 1997 10:52:03 -0400 > From what I've heard and seen, is that the Kraftwerk concert probably will >be brodcasted in Realaudio on the 24th (In 4 days!) I'm not going to be in >town, let alone near a computer with a internet connection during that >time. Is anyone going to save the .ram file and re-post it on the internet This is an excellent idea. I've been having several difficulties regarding the bbc radio1 website, and it sure would make life a lot easier if someone were to just post the .ram file with KW. Better yet, since there are many of us who cannot access RealAudio due to slow server connections or low baud rate modems, perhaps someone would be good enough to transfer the .ram file into an .au or .wav file if it's possible, and then make that available to the list. I haven't been able to listen to any live broadcasts from the bbc radio1 page so far, as I'm not sure where to find them. The 'Listening Booth' seems to only contain pre-recorded segments, and even there I was only able to access one of them so far. The others told me that my system was not fast enough to access. So, any help would be appreciated from those of you who are knowledgable about sound files and converting .ram to .wav or .au. Thanks. Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill barnhill@easyway.net "Eins Zwei Drei Vier..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: (kw) RV: Tribal Gathering Date: 20 May 1997 10:53:37 -0400 Fermin, Please read my earlier post. Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Luca Dassi Subject: (kw) Kraftwork on RealAudio Date: 20 May 1997 18:49:03 +0100 >From BBC web site: "There's also a chance to win tickets to Tribal and a Kraftwork box set "in Famous Last Words." *** KRAFTWORK ***??? "Also if your in the mood for listening then tune in to our special web "coverage of all Radio 1 broadcasts from Music Live and our extended "Essential Mix live from Tribal. Don't worry if you're not going to be "at your PC as the events are happening; as usual all audio is available "as and when you want it. Just click and listen. So it seems there will be a chance for listening and downloading KW in TG even for those who have a slow connection. I'll tape everything from Radio 1 on Astra satellite in glorious stereo. Unfortunately the resulting .WAV file would be a very huge one! But surely we can find a way to xmiss some excerpts... Luca Dassi Italy Wenn Wellen schwingen, ferne Stimmen singen... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gunnar R Johansson Subject: (kw) Wolfgang Flur not at TG! Date: 21 May 1997 08:59:21 +0200 From Doreen, agent for Wolfgang: >No, Wolfgang Flur will not joing Ralf Hutter and Florian Schneider who >continue to be Kraftwerk. They will most likely have two percussionists to >sit in for the spots Wolfgang Flur and Karl Bartos used to be. Gunnar R Johansson grj@bahnhof.se vox 08 - 738 34 08 Newspaper Expressen gunnar@expressen.se fax 08 - 738 34 32 Status: Idle http://www.expressen.se mob 070 - 626 81 42 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert West Subject: (kw) yamo info Date: 20 May 1997 18:25:51 +0100 (BST) my message to Andreas Schuld didn't make it apparently - so ye all get to read my fancy drivel on the subject of yamo and related artists - Oh! and here also is a very low quality joke concerning kraftwerk - i won't even bother with the punchline as you should be able to work this kindergarten style poop out for yrselves. here goes.... (ahem) (Q): which kraftwerk album was titled so as to be derogatory to the irish? sorry, fellas ! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- hey & howdy! as per yr q on yamo. - i understand it's a one-off collaborative affair between wolfgang flur & mouse on mars from germany who are jan werner and some other geeza . the album is called "time pie" on german emi, but i think you know that. i've been trying to get my hands on some mouse on mars for ages but the damn distributors are aways out of stock. all i know is that jan werner is also in microstoria with markus popp from oval. get microstoria's "snd" album if you haven't got it - you'll never hear anything quite so abstractly beautiful chiming on every possible frequency veeeeeeerrrrrrrrryyyyyyyy slowly. kinda satie/ feldman thing going on perhaps, but if you've got an open minded love of organized sound then treat yrself. there's also a remix album of stuff off "snd" ("reprovisors") which has superb contributions from the best of cologne's techno-cum-musique-concrete artistes and various scenesters from around the world (jim o'rourke, stereolab particularly of note). get into oval if you aren't into them already, also - they're the best. i wouldn't mind hearing the yamo stuff, but i read that the artists themselves think that it's somewhat comically/ irritatingly pop - mind you, i'm always up for that once in a while. perhaps all this is wildly skewed off the point but - anyway - all the best.- rob # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: (kw) Higher Profile Date: 21 May 1997 05:46:50 -0400 People, It seems at alst the kw are enjoying a renewed and higher profile with the UK media. Driving from work last night I heard Steve Lamacq of Radio1 giving away two copies of the limited box set with T-shirts. This morning, they listed TEE as one of the top 100 albums of all time!! All this and Jo whiley playing kw twice on her lunchtime show!!! Maybe people might stop asking me 'who are kraftwerk?' Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) no Wolfgang or Karl @TG Date: 21 May 1997 01:50:39 -0700 So much for wishful rumors that K and/or W would re-join R&F for the Big = Gig. Nope. It's gonna be Ralf & Florian & Fritz & Henning. -(Hilpert & = Schmitz, same as The MIX gigs.)- I read here or somewhere that Karl is = no longer with Electronic -(Bernard Summer)-, and I think Elektric Music = -(with Lothar Manteuffel)- broke up, too. Can anybody confirm/deny? = Meanwhile, I'm still looking for Wolfgang's YAMO "Time Pie" CD- not to = mention the KlingKlang Box Set. I can't hold out til September for the = New Album! Okay- this RealAudio thing seems to be WERKing. I was just listening to = "Essential Mix" on the BBC Radio1 WebSite, -(some DJ mix-master in = Italy)-, but, I don't know if it was a live program -(30 minutes = delayed)- or a previously taped program from last week or whenever. I = guess I'll find out this Saturday, eh? I can't wait!! Kudos to Brendan = Heading and anyone else who can record it directly! RADIOAKTIVITAT, strahlt wellen zum empfangsgerat.... -('scuse me while I have a Nuclear Melt-Down)- ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -(Foto & Profile)- http://www.scifi.com -(I live in The DOMINION Lounge. Same Foto, = different Text.)- =3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3D= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Land Subject: (kw) Box Sets Date: 21 May 1997 11:32:45 +0100 Hi there All, I know I have asked this question before, but as I have received zero response I will ask again! Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the limited box set? I am based in the UK, so I would have thought that supply of this item should not be too much of a problem. Many thanks, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Land Subject: (kw) Box Set 2 Date: 21 May 1997 12:22:18 +0100 Further to my previous mail on availability of the Kraftwerk box set, I = have just spoken to a mate of mine who works for DJ Magazine here in the = UK. He said that he has just finished a meeting with the people who are = organising Tribal Gathering and they say that there will be only 2000 = copies of the box set issued. There have been numerous amounts issued = to the press/media and music industry already, so getting hold of one = will be difficult. I have made a request to my mate that he lets me know when he gets his = copy, he said that he will probably keep it, even though he didn't know = anything about Kraftwerk until I explained everything to him!! Oh, well looks like I will have to keep trying to get hold of one = elsewhere. Regards, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fermin Goiriz" Subject: RE: (kw) Higher Profile Date: 21 May 1997 15:01:14 +0200 Kraftwerkers, Yeah that is happening too in Spain! The worse country to live if you like good music. The country where everybody think Phil Collins is good music! The other day, in a TV Program in the second channel of the public TV about Economics or something they used The Man Machine in one report. Next day, also in TV, but late at nite they used Radioactivity too to ilustrate a report on fashion, and even they showed a fashion with models dressed as Kraftwerk-- Man Machine Era. That's not all. There's another program, this one about famous pple, cinema, and gore accidents, murders etc. (typical spanish program) and they very often play Techno Pop (English) in the background. But the most unbelievable is that the MODEL who presents Canal Plus' "Los 40"-- something like MTV but 30min long and even worse, mentioned Kraftwerk when presenting last video from Daft Punk! So, what's HAPPENING here?? Fermín Goiriz j021850503@abonados.cplus.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Musikexpress 6/1997 Date: 21 May 1997 18:01:09 +0000 The June issue of the German Musikexpress magazine is out, containing a lenghty Kraftwerk article (stupid writing, but good photos and a short new interview with Wolfgang Fluer). Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert West Subject: (kw) we are the rowboats/ electric chafe Date: 21 May 1997 16:02:28 +0100 (BST) RALF: "what kind of chips can't you eat?" FLORIAN: "i do not know" RALF: "ghost-chips" R&F : "hahahahahahahahahaha" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Calder <101460.571@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk article in Melody Maker Date: 21 May 1997 12:49:30 EDT The latest issue of the 'Melody Maker' music paper contains a one-page Kraftwerk article (on page 21). Pretty much your typical, brief history of... The pictures are culled from the 'Musique Non Stop' promo video. A couple of pages later (page 23) there is also a competition to win a copy of the 'Klangbox 101' 12" single/t-shirt box set, and copies of 'The Man Machine' CD. To save you buying a copy of the magazine and to help any overseas fans who fancy there chances at winning here's what to do... The correct answer is; 'Hi Ho Silver Lining' Send entries to the following address; 'You Old Werker' c/o Bagsie! Melody Maker 28th Floor Kings Reach Tower Stamford Street London SE1 9LS Good luck!! Ian Calder # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dennis Berggren Subject: Re: (kw) no Wolfgang or Karl @TG Date: 21 May 1997 20:17:31 +0100 >Nope. It's gonna be Ralf & Florian & Fritz & Henning. -(Hilpert & Schmitz, >same as The MIX gigs.)- I read here or somewhere that Karl is no longer >with Electronic -(Bernard Summer)-, and I think Elektric Music -(with >Lothar Manteuffel)- broke up, too. Can anybody confirm/deny? Meanwhile, >I'm still looking for Wolfgang's YAMO "Time Pie" CD- not to mention the >KlingKlang Box Set. I can't hold out til September for the New Album! What I heard in this week from the label is that it will be a new album out from Karl Bartos, probably under the name Elektric Music but now for sure. This album is scheduled for late 97 - early 98. At the same point in time there will also be the new album from The Mobile Homes where, as I think you know, Karl is now also a member. The label is now working iout t how to release them at almost the same time without any problems. Anyone else that thinks that "Guiding Ray" from Yamo is similar to an "autobahn" for 1997? It=B4s so perfect and great! If anyone happends to get hold of a copy of the original Electronic Press Kit to the "Time Pie" album im definitly willing to pay a lot for it! I=B4ve seen a copy of it and it includes some cool Kraftwerk clips that Wolfgang have filmed himself from the old tour! Regards Dennis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert West Subject: (kw) computerworm Date: 21 May 1997 17:44:57 +0100 (BST) RALF: Florian, are you going to shave for that english pop show in the field? FLORIAN: Nein, I cannot be bothered. Have you found the electric flute yet? RALF: Ja, "ruckzack"-a-gogo! FLORIAN: Yes, "milk rock" also! RALF: haha, yes, those crazy english like it like that. FLORIAN: my shoes are on fire! RLAF:lwe oen ejegx FILORAIAN::::::: 10 times the height of the eiffel tower! RALF: and you shot him? FLORIAN: no. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) "Ghost-Chips"?? Date: 21 May 1997 13:12:06 -0700 > From: Robert West > To: kraftwerk@xmission.com > Subject: (kw) we are the rowboats/ electric chafe <----<< = HAHAHAHA!!!! That's KuTe!! > Date: Wednesday, May 21, 1997 8:02 AM >=20 > RALF: "what kind of chips can't you eat?" > FLORIAN: "i do not know" > RALF: "ghost-chips" > R&F : "hahahahahahahahahaha" Huh?? What's a "Ghost-Chip"?? Like a "Ghost-Writer"? Pardon my = ignorance. Gee, I always thought R&F's favorite snacks were MicroChips & Silicon = Wafers with Cream-Tea & IceCream. *YUM*! I can't wait til Saturday! RealAudio on BBC Radio1/Essential Mix! YESS! = I got it! HORRORS: The CD player was messed up last night, and then NONE of the = sounds would play from ANY source, -<*PANIC ATTACK*>-, but, hubby = finally fixed it. Something in the settings had got changed somehow. = It's WERKing now, Gott sei Dank!*WHEW*! So- is there any chance the KlingKlang Box Set will be available in the = states? Maybe I can order it through my local musik source. Looking for a "Rendezvous" with "The Inspector"/"Der Kommisar".... ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -(Foto & Profile)- http://www.scifi.com -(I live in The DOMINION Lounge. Same Foto, = different Text.)- =3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3D= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) Higher Profile Date: 21 May 1997 22:44:58 +0200 >Driving from work last night I heard Steve Lamacq of Radio1 giving away two >copies of the limited box set with T-shirts. Damn, I wish I lived in the UK. *sigh* Three more days to go, but then... *utter joy* Statik Out. -- "I doubt, therefore I might be..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) computerworm Date: 21 May 1997 13:48:49 -0700 > From: Robert West > To: kraftwerk@xmission.com > Subject: (kw) computerworm > Date: Wednesday, May 21, 1997 9:44 AM > RALF: Florian, are you going to shave for that english pop show in the > field? > FLORIAN: Nein, I cannot be bothered. Have you found the electric flute > yet? > RALF: Ja, "ruckzack"-a-gogo! > FLORIAN: Yes, "milk rock" also! > RALF: haha, yes, those crazy english like it like that. > FLORIAN: my shoes are on fire! > RLAF:lwe oen ejegx > FILORAIAN::::::: 10 times the height of the eiffel tower! > RALF: and you shot him? > FLORIAN: no. -????- Was ist das?? It's FUNNEE, but, I don't understand it.... "My = shoes are on fire?" "lwe oen ejgx"? "....The Eiffel tower"? "and you = shot him"?? Hmm, my German teacher warned me about strange = idioms.*HEE-HEE*. ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Otso Pakarinen Subject: Re: (kw) "Ghost-Chips"?? Date: 22 May 1997 10:54:57 +0300 ROBOT wrote: > Huh?? What's a "Ghost-Chip"?? Like a "Ghost-Writer"? Pardon my ignorance. > Gee, I always thought R&F's favorite snacks were MicroChips & Silicon Wafers with Cream-Tea & IceCream. * And they eat SILICON CARNE for lunch.... Otso ...by the way, I didn't understand those jokes either. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) no Wolfgang or Karl @TG Date: 22 May 1997 03:17:45 -0700 >Richard Poolton says: > When I saw them in London in '91 it was Ralf, Florian, Fritz and = Fernando wasn't it? Lucky YOU!! -(*grrrrr*!)-Yeah, Fernando toured with them for a short = time. I read an article that said it was easier to replace a live band = member than it was to replace a ROBOT, because they used Fernando's = Doppelganger for a while after Henning stepped in. -(Fernando supposedly = "smiled too much" and moved around too much on stage. So, they ditched = him. -?!!- That's what I read somewhere.)- The MIX pictures show Fritz's = "twin" twice, giving the illusion of 4 guys. Pretty funny! 2 more days! *sigh* ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Fjellström Subject: (kw) Electronica Date: 22 May 1997 13:31:11 +0100 Hello, friends. I hope I'm not banned for being out of topic now, but I asked this previously while brought up, and didn't get any answer. This is it: What is "electronica"? Is it - as I think - the name of a genre of electronic experimental music (such as Kraftwerk, Aphex Twin, Autechre, etc)? Love, Marcus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Fjellström Subject: Re: (kw) Musikexpress 6/1997 Date: 22 May 1997 13:39:00 +0100 > The June issue of the German Musikexpress magazine is out, containing > a lenghty Kraftwerk article (stupid writing, but good photos and a short > new interview with Wolfgang Fluer). So, is Wolfie in the band or what? /Marcus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Fjellström Subject: Re: (kw) VOX Date: 22 May 1997 13:50:54 +0100 Skylink3@aol.com wrote: > > I am new and I don't know if this was already mentioned but, in the magazine > VOX, one of the members of Prodigy said some very not so nice things about > Kraftwerk, then Aphex twin joined in the Kraftwerk bashing. But Orbital and > Chemical Brothers saved the day by giving KW much praise. What - Aphex insulted Kraftwerk? Well, there goes my respect for that bloke. Strange though - in the eminent Swedish music magazine "Pop" Aphex Twin says that "Computerworld" is the album which has meant the most to him. And about the Prod - although I kind of fancy their music I'm not suprised they say bad things about Kraftwerk if it is cool... yeeesh.. What exactly did they say then? > Also, I make music so I am interested if anyone knows what gear Kraftwerk > currently uses or if they still make alot of their own synths. any info would > be nice. Hmm. They've stuck on to the minimoog from 73 - today, as far as I know. And I've read in Swedish "Musikermagasinet" that they use a Waldorf Microwave. Can't remember really - hang on, I might dig up the article and give you more info. Love, Marcus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: (kw) VOX Date: 22 May 1997 08:55:21 -0400 Marcus Fjellstr=F6m wrote: > > VOX, one of the members of Prodigy said some very not so nice > > things about Kraftwerk, then Aphex twin joined in the Kraftwerk bashi= ng. > What - Aphex insulted Kraftwerk? Well, there goes my respect for that > bloke. Strange though - in the eminent Swedish music magazine "Pop" > Aphex Twin says that "Computerworld" is the album which has meant the > most to him. Aphex Twin says a lot of conflicting things in various interviews. I wou= ldn't take anything he says very seriously. A lot of stuff he's said has obvio= usly been done to get a rise out of people. He's still a top musical artist. -- Adam J Weitzman -- Individual, Inc. -- http://www.individual.com -- "What is the Scientific Community doing? THEY'RE CLONING SHEEP. Great! Just what we need! Sheep that look MORE ALIKE than they already do! Thanks a lot, Scientific Community!" - Dave Barry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Fjellström Subject: (kw) Disaster Date: 22 May 1997 14:05:03 +0100 Julian Seifert wrote: > I've had the same thoughts, but these are blown away by another one. > This_may_be_one_of_the_last_times_we_may_see_them !!!!! Yes, exactly. Last week, just when about to fall asleep one night, I sat up in my bed by shock: Here Kraftwerk plays LIVE at a big festival - and I'm not GOING THERE (I'd gonna have to sell some of my synths to afford the flight ticket for starters)! I've never seen them before, and what if I never will! Gaah! Quite shocking, eh? /Marcus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: Re:(kw) bbc/tg/ra. Date: 22 May 1997 09:06:22 -0400 Message text written by Luke Welsh >Hello again, Jules-- It's me again, Luke from the KW list. Thanks for the Radio1 URL. I've been trying to figure out how to capture the Real Audio file to disk. All I can do is grab the .ram file, not the .ra. Even if I look in my NetScape Cache directory, there is just the .ram, and the RA Player has no "log" option that I can find. You can find a directory of all of Radio1's ram files here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/listeningbooth/ Each .ram file simply points to a .ra file. For example, here is the contents of http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/listeningbooth/evening.ram: pnm://ra.bbc.co.uk/radio1/live/evening.ra ^^^ ^^ ^^ Now *that* looks more like what we'd like to grab. Any ideas? Unfortunately, www.bbc... and ra.bbc... aren't even the same machine: www.bbc.co.uk CNAME www.best.bbc.co.uk www.best.bbc.co.uk A 132.185.132.32 ra.bbc.co.uk CNAME ra0.bbc.co.uk ra0.bbc.co.uk A 132.185.132.90 There is a FTP server running on ra0.bbc, but it does not accept anonymous logins :-( Finger daemon is not running, but http is if you can guess a directory name. Actually, for reasons of copyright, I think RealAudio is designed to discard the data. It may be that the only way is to record the output of your sound card :-P Feel free to post this note to the KW list if you think it'd do any good or is of general interest. --Luke< Any ideas??? Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Reinventing the Eighties" Date: 22 May 1997 15:09:00 +0000 The new CD sampler "Reinventing the Eighties" contains a cover version of "Tour de France". Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) VOX Date: 22 May 1997 09:35:41 -0400 If I remember right, Aphex siad something along the lines of the fact that he thought they were probably past it?? That comment could be taken good or bad, considering the lack of new material in the past 15 years..... I think I'm right in recalling also that he said he WAS a fan?? Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: (kw) Exceller 8?? Date: 22 May 1997 12:29:16 -0400 Hi everybody (me yet again!!), Out of interest who has the nickname Exceller8 on IRC?? I missed you by abaout 10 seconds while checked the bbc site on www, and when I came back you had disconnected. Maybe we will catch up another time?? Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cgross@pop.erols.com (Christopher Gross) Subject: (kw) .ra storage Date: 22 May 1997 12:30:32 -0400 (EDT) About the problem with storing .ra files from Netscape: I just drag the icon that appears on the (Mac Desktop) screen to the hard drive, but this may only work for pre-recorded material and not live feeds... Some of the files I've stored use the .ra suffix, and others .ram or .rmm; dunno if there's any difference. I assume some of KW's gig will be available after the show itself-- at least I hope so, since I can't listen live unless I break into the office! A correction to my earlier RealAudio posting: RealPlayer is also available for Linux, SunOS, Solaris, and FreeBSD systems. Not for Amigas, though. No. Arrrgh... "Quick, we go elsewhere" --Florian Schneider Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) Electronica Date: 22 May 1997 14:00:42 -0700 > What is "electronica"? Is it - as I think - the name of a genre of > electronic experimental music (such as Kraftwerk, Aphex Twin, Autechre, > etc)? [sound of can of worms opening] As far as I can see, 'electronica' is a recently coined term by MTV and such like to describe much of the progressive electronic dance music that has been coming out of Britain for the the last five or six years. It's not new, it's just had very little exposure in the US up to now. It's quite ironic that just as America discovers British 'electronica', the most intersting and creative contemporary music is coming from the new crop of American crossover / guitar bands! see you at the front Saturday night. Jon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cgross@pop.erols.com (Christopher Gross) Subject: (kw) .ra vs. .ram Date: 22 May 1997 13:02:46 -0400 (EDT) Should have checked this before I posted that last message: I have a .ra on my hard drive (a Bob & Ray show) that's about 1.2 megs, so I guess that's the audio file (Duh). The .rams and .rmms are all only 20k. So I assume that what you can download is up to the owner of the website, and all the Radio One stuff seems to be in .ram form. Oh well. Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Conny_Fornb=E4ck?= Subject: SV: (kw) .ra vs. .ram Date: 22 May 1997 20:26:16 +0200 I assume that what you can download is up to the owner of the website. I just spent some time trying to download the shows on BBC1. (I actually = broke my amplifyer :( ). I can only download .ram-files, not the = .ra-files. Does this mean that we all have to wait for someone in the UK to record = the show from the radio if we want a decent copy? I had planned to = download it from the BBC-site and then make my own CD with my CD-burner. = I guess it can't be done. All you who are able to record BBC Radio1 through "the air", please be = sure to do so. /Conny # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bruce M. Lloyd" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk tour poster Date: 22 May 1997 14:36:22 -0400 A question for all you Werkers.. I have a rather large Kraftwerk Man Machine tour poster. It is showing dates in the early 80s all over Germany. It's roughly 165x92cm, with a blown up picture of the Man Machine cover, and on the bottom corner a list of cities (a rather extensive list of small venues I would imagine). I want to know if this is worth anything, value wise. Bruce ---- Bruce M. Lloyd, bml@bgi.on.ca Macintosh Technical Support Services and Systems Engineer BGI Systems Integration Markham, Ontario, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ivo Peeters Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk Digest V3 #67 -Reply Date: 22 May 1997 22:08:45 +0000 Subrata Bhattacharjee wrote: > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 20:02:29 +0000 > From: J P M > Subject: (kw) Rheingold > > Has anyone ever seen any Rheingold > CD's or Vinyl. > - -- > Jason....... > > I have a 4 song EP released in 1982. I > forget the title of the record, but it includes > the song "Fan Fan Fanatic" (English > version). I've been looking for the > German version for years, but have never > seen a copy. My question is whether any > member of KW had involvement with this > band. I know that Lothar Manteuffel (now > Elektric Music ?) was part of the band, but > I recall hearing on a radio broadcast that > Florian Schneider's hand was present. > Anyone have any info on this ? > > Subrata A late reply to this message: Rheingold has at least 3 albums released: Rheingold ('80 - Welt/EMI 1C064-46160) R. ('82 - EMI Electrola 1C064-46480) Distanz ('84 - CBS 25871) I own the first two on vinyl + a 12": Looks good on you ('82) I know they have released several 12" in English and in German (a.o. the hitsingle 'Dreiklangsdimensionen'). Probably the albums are also available in an English and a German version. The first two have been released on CD: Rheingold ('90 - EMI 7948072) R ('93 - EMI 7812342) I don't know about a CD release of 'Distanz'. 'FanFanFanatisch' (German version of "Fan Fan Fanatic") can be found on 'R'. There are a few links between Kraftwerk and Rheingold. Bodo Staiger, who established Rheingold, was in the beginning of the 70's member of Sinus together with Karl Bartos. Lothar Manteuffel has indeed written some songs together with Bodo Staiger for Rheingold but I don't know if he was a member. Also, E. Schult has written songs for Rheingold (together with Staiger). On the 'Rheingold'-album is a song called 'Graffitis', which is credited to Staiger/Schneider. This could be Florian Schneider, but I am not sure of that. Can anybody confirm whether this is really Florian Schneider? Ivo Peeters # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk tour poster Date: 22 May 1997 16:56:20 -0400 (EDT) I have a Computerworld presskit w/photos,etc....is that worth anything? Anyone interested? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: (kw) electronica Date: 22 May 1997 17:02:24 -0400 (EDT) The term "electronica was around long before MTV got a hold of it (natch). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tiger Moses Subject: Re: SV: (kw) .ra vs. .ram Date: 22 May 1997 15:58:36 -0500 At 08:26 PM 5/22/97 +0200, you wrote: >I assume >that what you can download is up to the owner of the website. > >I just spent some time trying to download the shows on BBC1. (I actually broke my amplifyer :( ). I can only download .ram-files, not the .ra-files. > >Does this mean that we all have to wait for someone in the UK to record the show from the radio if we want a decent copy? I had planned to download it from the BBC-site and then make my own CD with my CD-burner. I guess it can't be done. > >All you who are able to record BBC Radio1 through "the air", please be sure to do so. > >/Conny > > Yeah, I tried exploring their dirs too and only found the 1k each RAM files, where they are keeping the RA files I do't know. You could connect a tape deck to your pc sound card very easy. Most pc CDROM kits bring a mini din - dual RCA connector cable to send the output somewhere else. Use that kind of cable on the line out of your soundcard and connector the other end into ainput jacks on the tape deck. My raplayer says the file is in stereo, so you'll get a stereo recording. Unfortunately, modem connection may cause some choppyness. ISDN or network users will have better luck. Hope I gave someone a good idea how to copy the sounds! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard.Poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk Subject: (kw) K DAY MINUS 1 Date: 23 May 1997 08:24:23 Well tomorrow's the day. I just want to say to Craig, Neil, Jon and everyone else going to the Tribal Gathering - I hope we all have a most excellent time! To those of you hoping to catch a live broadcast - enjoy every minute. To those that cannot go or listen to a broadcast - don't worry they'll be bootlegs aplenty in the very near future! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Fjellström Subject: Re: (kw) K DAY MINUS 1 Date: 23 May 1997 11:01:53 +0100 > Well tomorrow's the day. I just want to say to Craig, Neil, Jon and everyone > else going to the Tribal Gathering - I hope we all have a most excellent time! > To those of you hoping to catch a live broadcast - enjoy every minute. > To those that cannot go or listen to a broadcast - don't worry they'll be > bootlegs aplenty in the very near future! Well, I regret that I'm not going. But I wish all of you who are going a very nice time! Good luck, and may you remember that big day... Love, Marcus PS. Anyone sorted it out about the Ghost-chips yet? (:-. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Fjellström Subject: (kw) Robots and computers Date: 23 May 1997 11:12:30 +0100 Hello mates. The musicians amongst us in this list might know that there is a sample CD out by the name of "Robots and computers" - and it consists of nothing but Kraftwerk-sounding samples. Everything from synth drums, kraftwerk loops, robo-speech, mellotron samples (finally!), kraftwerk bleeps, etc etc is supposed to be on the disc. I almost never use sample CD:s in my music, but could actually consider using this one. A lot. So, if anyone out there has tried it, could you please tell me if it's worth the money? It's got really favourable reviews everywhere I've read about it, so... I kind of like the idea of stuffing my old TX16W with these sounds! Please, any information is useful... Love, Marcus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skylink3@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) VOX Date: 23 May 1997 09:07:46 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-05-22 11:48:17 EDT, you write: << If I remember right, Aphex siad something along the lines of the fact that he thought they were probably past it?? That comment could be taken good or bad, considering the lack of new material in the past 15 years..... I think I'm right in recalling also that he said he WAS a fan?? >> He said he used to be a fan but has lost respect for them. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skylink3@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Electronica Date: 23 May 1997 09:16:22 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-05-22 15:43:52 EDT, you write: << As far as I can see, 'electronica' is a recently coined term by MTV and such like to describe much of the progressive electronic dance music that has been coming out of Britain for the the last five or six years. It's not new, it's just had very little exposure in the US up to now. It's quite ironic that just as America discovers British 'electronica', the most intersting and creative contemporary music is coming from the new crop of American crossover / guitar bands! >> American guitar bands? I dont know who your talking about but most of it is terrible and that is why americans are turning to electronic music. As far as electronic dance music, there was a techno movement that started in Detroit long before the Acid house craze of England. I am curious to what guitar bands you are speaking of, maybe there is much music here that I don't know about. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard.Poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk Subject: (kw) Oh No! Date: 23 May 1997 13:20:18 I've just been listening to Radio 1 in the car. Two snippets of news: 1, They say that they will be live broadcasting Sneaker Pimps/Justin Robertson/ Kraftwerk sets from 22.30. 2, Radio 1's NET slot is going to run a feature later stating that TG organisers are panicking as to whether KW are going to turn up or not. Maybe I mis-heared but I am worried! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se (Mats Kadmark) Subject: Re: (kw) K DAY MINUS 1 Date: 23 May 1997 14:51:52 +0200 es28@Tannberg.Lycksele.SE,internet writes:=20 =20 >PS. Anyone sorted it out about the Ghost-chips yet? (:-.=20 =20 Well, as Ralf & Florian are German, I expect that this is a=20 translation...and in German "Chips" can both mean "potato-crisps" as=20 well as computer-chips. And a ghost-chip must be a crisp already eaten,=20 i.e. it has turned into a ghost. : ) =20 =20 Or does anyone have another solution?=20 =20 Mats=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert West Subject: (kw) PROTOCOL Date: 23 May 1997 14:37:34 +0100 (BST) Ralf and Florian would like to make it clear that although ghost-chips are actually inedible, they have no clear postion as regards chip-ghosts. IT'S OFFICIAL. and, yes, Klaus Dinger will be rejoining R&F at tribal gathering for their performances of "stratovarius" and "rockin' all over the world". # # # RALF: yes, i had him in a stranglehold. GULLIVER: were there tiny horses? RALF: no, all wildlife had been eradicated. GULLIVER: and this was all in the most elaborate courtyard, filled with dancing magicians and performing mechanical beasts? RALF: shut up. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Tribal TV Date: 23 May 1997 16:36:27 +0000 Universe is going to transmit some parts of the Tribal Gathering festival live via the Internet at http://www.tribaltv.com. Is somebody able to watch it and to save possible Kraftwerk-relevant parts of the transmission? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Soundcheck Date: 23 May 1997 16:36:27 +0000 From http://www.universe.co.uk/voyager/comms/592.htm: > KRAFTWERK at Tribal site. > > Transmitted by Ian@Universe on 22 May, 1997 at 19:02:24: > > Just to let everyone know, Kraftwerk have been soundchecking today, > there stage show look's awesome. [...] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LM Subject: Re: (kw) Electronica Date: 23 May 1997 07:36:45 -0700 Skylink3@aol.com wrote: >> << It's quite ironic that just as America discovers >> British 'electronica', the most intersting and creative contemporary >> music is coming from the new crop of American crossover / guitar >> bands! >> > American guitar bands? I dont know who your talking about but most of > it is terrible and that is why americans are turning to electronic > music. I totally agree here! Besides that "cRap" thing (I refuse to write it without the "c" in the front), contemporary American rock/guitar bands all look and sound alike (and they just don't sound any good to me at all). It's like they're all trying to reinvent something that has been done better by their fathers 20 years ago, IMHO. Of course, there's always something good in the middle of all that, but that's the exception rather than the rule. > As far as electronic dance music, there was a techno movement that > started in Detroit long before the Acid house craze of England. The way I see it is that like everything else, Americans treat music more like a business, while Europeans treat it more like an art. And it's easy to see the consequences from that. ;-) > I am curious to what guitar bands you are speaking of, maybe there is > much music here that I don't know about. Me too. :-) |_ |\/| --- L.Meyer@ix/netcom.com P.S.: I just bought the June issue of Future Music yesterday. I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but they do have some nice photos on their article about Kraftwerk. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Land Subject: RE: (kw) Oh No! Date: 23 May 1997 15:41:49 +0100 I think if Kraftwerk don't bother turning up then I will disown them = forever! Not only have they been reluctant to give give us any new material, they = never seem to respond to any of the rumours that fly around to dispell = all the negative vibes. Lets hope they do turn up for the sake of those = like me who have sheeled out our hard earned money to attend TG. Regards, Craig. PS. If they don't turn up, does anyone want to buy a collection!!!!!!! ---------- Richard.Poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk[SMTP:Richard.Poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk] Sent: 23 May 1997 14:20 I've just been listening to Radio 1 in the car. Two snippets of news: 1, They say that they will be live broadcasting Sneaker Pimps/Justin = Robertson/ Kraftwerk sets from 22.30. 2, Radio 1's NET slot is going to run a feature later stating that TG = organisers are panicking as to whether KW are going to turn up or not. Maybe I mis-heared but I am worried! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original = sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fermin Goiriz" Subject: RV: (kw) Electronica Date: 23 May 1997 17:23:31 +0200 > American guitar bands? I dont know who your talking about but most of it > is > terrible and that is why americans are turning to electronic music. As > far as > electronic dance music, there was a techno movement that started in > Detroit > long before the Acid house craze of England. I am curious to what guitar > bands you are speaking of, maybe there is much music here that I don't > know > about. Add me to the list, too. Guitar bands are TERRIBLE! Except My Bloody Valentine, of course ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Weustink Subject: (kw) Tribal Gathering Realaudio Date: 23 May 1997 17:19:33 +0200 Hello fellow stayers at home, Ive put a realaudio file about the concert of tomorrow on my page. http://www.xs4all.nl/~bwe/luton.htm I hope I will be able to put some more on in a few days. Thank you, Bob Weustink bwe@dds.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Fear of a Black Planet #3 Date: 23 May 1997 12:06:01 EDT >>> Besides that "cRap" thing (I refuse to write it without the "c" in the front)... <<< Are you talking about that pop-oriented shit or real hip-hop--phat beats, thought-provoking rhymes? You're defaming the "last voice of Black people" (--KRS-One). Before you dis the most important cultural/social movement ever to come from the wildlands of the travesty of the United Snakes of AmeriKKKa, where Mighty Whytie continues to oppress all USA citizens, get the 411, kid! You don't have to like it, just give props where they're due!!! All you lucky people at TG better give us a report! What's the new music like? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Craig Land Subject: (kw) I'm Off Date: 23 May 1997 17:17:49 +0100 Hi there all, It is 17:15 and I have finished for the weekend. That means I can go = home and rest up for TG. I will probably hang around the meeting point = for a while before the KW gig, so if you want to find me, that's where I = will be. Remember, I have the KW t-shirt on! Anyway, whichever means you use to check out TG, have a great one. If = you are unfortunate not to attend, I am sure you can be assured that = someone on the list will be publishing the audio files as well as any = pictures taken from the event. Best Regards, Craig. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bruce M. Lloyd" Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk Digest V3 #71 Date: 23 May 1997 12:25:54 -0400 >Ralf and Florian would like to make it clear that although ghost-chips are >actually inedible, they have no clear postion as regards chip-ghosts. IT'S >OFFICIAL. >and, yes, Klaus Dinger will be rejoining R&F at tribal gathering for their >performances of "stratovarius" and "rockin' all over the world". ># ># ># >RALF: yes, i had him in a stranglehold. >GULLIVER: were there tiny horses? >RALF: no, all wildlife had been eradicated. >GULLIVER: and this was all in the most elaborate courtyard, filled with >dancing magicians and performing mechanical beasts? >RALF: shut up. Some people just take their love of Kraftwerk a little to far. This is simply nauseating. ---- Bruce M. Lloyd, bml@bgi.on.ca Macintosh Technical Support Services and Systems Engineer BGI Systems Integration Markham, Ontario, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert West Subject: (kw) electronica duh Date: 23 May 1997 18:09:56 +0100 (BST) i wrote this message before the "fear of a black planet#3" message arrived - which was a point i was going to make.the sequencing antics of the bomb squad still stand the test of time, the rza & wu-tang have the top beats (but are they becoming the spice girls of rap? sporty wu, ginger wu etc.?) and dr.octagon & automator rule uncontested. y'know by dissing rap you run the risk of dissing luminaries such as gil scott-heron or the beatnigs, also. credit where credit's due tho, ye did admit genius is more an exception than the rule, but here's the little wittering i was up to before i got the pro-rap message: this debate is stupid. just cos something is written in a magazine it does not make it a fact. there is as much crap in the field of what we know as "electronica" as there is in any form of music done with so-called acoustic instruments, or non-sequenced music. to generalize on the listening habits and creativity of a nation's musicians is a petty regionalism and short-sighted to boot. the creative underground of other nations is obviously going to be less apparent than that of your own country (especially if yr not a top techie nerd). and as for "guitar" bands (ever such a picky categorization) - what about gastr del sol, brise glace, melt banana, god is my co-pilot, boredoms, trumans water, slint, pavement, kenny process team? all absolutely bleedin bladdy marvelous, innit, Ralf? RALF: no i like the hawkwind songs about trolls and stonehenge. FLORIAN: i like the frank zappa tunes about loose girls and snorting coke, ja! RALF: yes, wig out, daddio! "bobby brown goes down" ha ha! FLORIAN: yes, hahahhahhahahaha. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: M Griffin Subject: (kw) "guitar bands" Date: 23 May 1997 10:52:45 -0700 >From: LM >> American guitar bands? I dont know who your talking about but most of >> it is terrible and that is why americans are turning to electronic >> music. > I totally agree here! Besides that "cRap" thing (I refuse to write >it without the "c" in the front), contemporary American rock/guitar >bands all look and sound alike (and they just don't sound any good to >me at all). It's like they're all trying to reinvent something that has >been done better by their fathers 20 years ago, IMHO. >> I am curious to what guitar bands you are speaking of, maybe there is >> much music here that I don't know about. > Me too. :-) Though most of us would probably agree that most or all of the stuff being promoted as "alternative" rock is really just a load of crap, that's not what I believe this person meant when they referred to crossover/guitar music. A lot of the most interesting music being done in America right now is guitar-based. Artists like Labradford, Bowery Electric, Windy & Carl, Magnog, Jessamine are doing some really great, interesting stuff that has nothing to do with "guitar rock" even though in most cases these bands include a guitarist and a bass player, rather than just a bunch of synths. Fans of old Kraftwerk, Can, Cluster and the like will definitely find something to enjoy among these artists I mentioned above. --Mike mgriffin@hypnos.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . H Y P N O S R E C O R D I N G S web site at http://www.HYPNOS.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . JEFF GREINKE -- Official Web Site at http://www.hypnos.com/greinke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: (kw) THE DAY has come! 8-) Date: 24 May 1997 06:27:47 +0900 Dear 'Werkers, YES! It's the day finally! Also, it'll be 24/May soon in Luton Hoo or in Duesseldorf. I can't visit the place, but just hope you all have the GREATEST time. We're looking forward to hear from you all! 8-) Best, Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: (kw) Computerworld PressKit Date: 23 May 1997 18:29:34 -0400 (EDT) I am sorry for being slow in responding to those who wrote me about the presskit I have. Basically,it is from Germany...mint condition. It has 2 5x7 black and white photographs and a 6 page interview w/Ralf and Florian in a white folder w/record company logo. I'd love to trade it for something. Is anyone going to be taping tomorrow's Tribal Kraftwerk concert????? Can someone make a dub of it for me and they can have the presskit......??????? If not, does anyone have any other live stuff they can copy for me and they can have the presskit? Looking forward to hearing from anyone and everyone... Alan # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Date: 23 May 1997 23:33:51 +0200 Hi! Off to Tribal Gathering (step on the plane to the UK first thing tomorrow morning). If u see me, come and say hello. I wear the painstakingly yellow KW shirt and I am the one with all the saliva on my face :) Everyone have a happy Tribal Gathering! Statik out. -- "I doubt, therefore I might be..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1978 12:28:20 +0500 From: Christopher Gross Subject: (kw) danke sehr My computer crashed (due to the cat jumping on it :-X) while I was posting my last message, so I'm sending it again just in case: Best wishes for a good ol' time to those who can make it to TG, and deep thanks to everyone who has offered to share the experience with us stay-at-homes. Mebbe those scary TG scenarios about KW not showing up will come to naught... And here's my own scary KW scenario: RALF'S ROBOT DOUBLE: I'm the Terminator with my pocket calculator. (Luton Hoo explodes) Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) THE DAY has come! 8-) Date: 23 May 1997 20:51:38 -0400 >YES! It's the day finally! Also, it'll be 24/May soon >in Luton Hoo or in Duesseldorf. > >I can't visit the place, but just hope you all have the >GREATEST time. >We're looking forward to hear from you all! 8-) In a few hours it shall be May 24th here on the east coast of the USA as well, so I'd also like to take this opportunity to wish all werkers that are at home, work, or at Luton Hoo to have a terrific day and enjoy!!! Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill barnhill@easyway.net "Wir sind die Roboter..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skylink3@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Fear of a Black Planet #3 Date: 23 May 1997 22:06:49 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-05-23 12:50:52 EDT, you write: << Are you talking about that pop-oriented shit or real hip-hop--phat beats, thought-provoking rhymes? You're defaming the "last voice of Black people" (--KRS-One). Before you dis the most important cultural/social movement ever to come from the wildlands of the travesty of the United Snakes of AmeriKKKa, where Mighty Whytie continues to oppress all USA citizens, get the 411, kid! You don't have to like it, just give props where they're due!!! >> By the way, how is that new KRS-1 album. I am careful on what I spend my money on so if anyone knows if it is good or not please let me know. Did I hear that Elektric Music has a new album coming out too? What is the general consensus on the last Elektric music album? Personally I love it. I just wish Karl Bartos would rejoin Kraftwerk. Ted # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skylink3@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) "guitar bands"/ Electronica Date: 23 May 1997 21:59:16 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-05-23 15:02:35 EDT, you write: << Though most of us would probably agree that most or all of the stuff being promoted as "alternative" rock is really just a load of crap, that's not what I believe this person meant when they referred to crossover/guitar music. A lot of the most interesting music being done in America right now is guitar-based. Artists like Labradford, Bowery Electric, Windy & Carl, Magnog, Jessamine are doing some really great, interesting stuff that has nothing to do with "guitar rock" even though in most cases these bands include a guitarist and a bass player, rather than just a bunch of synths. Fans of old Kraftwerk, Can, Cluster and the like will definitely find something to enjoy among these artists I mentioned above. >> I do like guitar bands, dont get me wrong. but Labradford? come on. Jessamine? dont they often rip off stereolab? I think the best guitar bands are/were New Order, Johnny Marr (pick any of his projects), railway children and the such. In america (where I live) there are some interesting electronic groups (electric skychurch, Carl Craig) but not so many guitar bands. I think someone even mentioned Pavement, which is funny because they dont even know how to play their guitars. I think it is cool that you like these bands but as far as originality and creativity, electronic music may be the last avenue. I don't mean to dis any fans of guitar music I am just stressing that at the current moment Orbital or Underworld may very well be the most creative acts going. hopefully Kraftwerk will rise again and be added to that short list. Why should any of us doubt them at this point? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) The hip-hop revolution continues Date: 23 May 1997 22:25:20 EDT >>> dr.octagon & automator rule uncontested. <<< No doubt! But you forgot to mention Ultramagnetic MCs, Kool Keith's (aka Dr. Octagon's) old group! Talk about innovation! Sorry to get off topic, y'all, I know how persnickety y'all be. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ra Subject: (kw) Robots and computers and TG, oh my! Date: 23 May 1997 22:17:53 -0600 (MDT) On Fri, 23 May 1997, Marcus Fjellstr=F6m wrote: > The musicians amongst us in this list might know that there is a sample > CD out by the name of "Robots and computers" - and it consists of > nothing but Kraftwerk-sounding samples. Everything from synth drums, > kraftwerk loops, robo-speech, mellotron samples (finally!), kraftwerk > bleeps, etc etc is supposed to be on the disc. Do you have any more information about it? If I can locate it, I'm=20 definitely buying it. To whoever is going to Tribal: Have some extra fun for me. I wish I could= =20 go. :( We need someone to fight their way backstage and ask R&F when the next=20 album is due. :) /*--------------------------------------+---------------------------------* | Soleil "Ra" Lapierre | Contents 57.6% nerd, 85% pure. | | lapierrs@cuug.ab.ca | Myers-Briggs product type INXJ | | http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~lapierrs | Celia Green is right! | *--------------------------------------+---------------------------------*= / # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicholas D. Kent" Subject: re: (kw) .ra vs. .ram / electronica Date: 24 May 1997 11:47:22 +0000 The last time I looked at RealAudio's (aka RealMedia's) product stategy is that they want you to buy the $30+ deluxe player to save your downloads or live broadcasts. Obviously if it is just a stored .ra file on a server you can ftp it or fish it out of your cache folder after it's loaded. My friends who follow concerts suggest you attach a decent recorder to your audio output, of course your results won't be digital unless your board has digital outs though, ...but considering the sound isn't hi-fi anyway. Dealing with the $30 player, I would speculate that a feature to block the saving of live broadcasts is optionally implemented. The software company seems to make their money from selling the tools to websites. Back on the non-live side of things most people belive they only released the non-realtime .ra encoder because Macromedia offered their own Shockwave streaming audio. -------------- Regarding "electronica" It's a name given to many (but not all) categories of electronic music. Exactly what the bounds are remains to be proven by marketing. Though I hate MTV (like that's a revelation) I can't see how they have anything to do with the creation of the name. Perpetuation maybe, but they didn't start the term. I'd be curious where the first usage occured. It probably was coined regarding something minor, but it clearly has been picked up and perpetuated by label marketing and the music press. I think it's main purpose is if you call something "electronic" it's too general, you could be talking about Stockhausen or John Tesh. You can't market it as a genre. And if you call it "techno" "jungle" "intelligent spootcore" etc. you get the double problem of artists screaming "I don't make that kind of music" and listeners saying "I can't stand [fill in the blank style], so I won't listen". Also you won't get arguements about "what is and isn't techno" and Can include bands like for example Stereolab and Cluster. It's a kind of a not likely to offend name. -nicholas kent In Japan you can buy Clipper Chips. They are corn flavored and do not involve government evesdropping. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Nicholas D. Kent" Subject: re: (kw) Robots and computers Date: 24 May 1997 11:56:22 +0000 > Hello mates. > > The musicians amongst us in this list might know that there is a sample > CD out by the name of "Robots and computers" - and it consists of > nothing but Kraftwerk-sounding samples. Everything from synth drums, > kraftwerk loops, robo-speech, mellotron samples (finally!), kraftwerk > bleeps, etc etc is supposed to be on the disc. > > I almost never use sample CD:s in my music, but could actually consider > using this one. A lot. So, if anyone out there has tried it, could you > please tell me if it's worth the money? It's got really favourable > reviews everywhere I've read about it, so... I kind of like the idea of > stuffing my old TX16W with these sounds! > > Please, any information is useful... > > Love, Marcus I am selling my copy of the disk (audio version). US$60 post paid to the US some extra shipping elsewhere. This is the actual disk and case, not a copy or anything not legit. The US retail is $100. ... Contains 2000 samples, most mono, a few in stereo -like "Radioactiv Choir". (Best Service bs67) On the up side the disk contains seemingly the entire vocabulary of the Speak and Spell, some absolutely superb electronic drums. (about 650+ different drum samples). There are mostly usable analog synth sounds sampled 2 notes per octave. Some melotron samples too. Good analog basses in the KW mode. Also no material emulating Electric Cafe or The Mix. (I'd probably call that a positive :) Some weird pre-synth organ stuff a little in keeping with early KW. Some Stylophone even. On the down side there are some lame words vocoded or using the Mac's OS speach synthesis. The real vocoding is fine if you want to put in random vocoded words, but sampled vocoding isn't that creative in concept. Also about 60 drum loop recreations of KW beats, might be useful to study but it's not very original to use any (they are not sampled from Kraftwerk albums, but are recognizable as specific KW tunes. You could play "name that beat" with KW fans.) contact me by e-mail (please don't ask me to tape it for you) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fermin Goiriz" Subject: (kw) TribalTV Date: 24 May 1997 23:50:52 +0200 Hi! I am listening to the Essential Mix at Radio1, waiting for hear Kw, and also on TribalTV but I can't see/hear anything there. I have RealPlayer and ShockWave, and Netscape Navigator 3.02. Has anyone already heard some Kraftwerk stuff? Please! Fermín Goiriz j021850503@abonados.cplus.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Barth" Subject: (kw) Electric Hangover (in an Electric Cafe) Date: 24 May 1997 23:57:12 +0200 Trying to get connected to the Tribal Gathering act of KW, I'm becoming more and more disappointed. I can't get the KW music through the BBC (Not over the Radio and not over the Web). I can't receive them through TribalTV (lot's of rubbish). I know they are playing for almost an hour now, at this very moment. I've seen them in '81 and in '91, but now I'm regretting I'm not in the UK at this moment! IT'S TERRIBLE!!!!! Someone taped it please? Erik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bruce M. Lloyd" Subject: (kw) Tribal Gathering Real Audio Hoax Date: 24 May 1997 18:28:33 -0400 Once again the Internet proves to be 100% bullshit. The BBC Radio 1 site is *not* playing Tribal Gather live on any other their Real Audio feeds. They're all archived files from God only knows when. If someone taped the show from the radio, I'd be glad to pay for a copy.. Bruce ---- Bruce M. Lloyd, bml@bgi.on.ca Macintosh Technical Support Services and Systems Engineer BGI Systems Integration Markham, Ontario, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) TribalTV Date: 24 May 1997 19:16:08 -0400 >Hi! I am listening to the Essential Mix at Radio1, waiting for hear Kw, and >also on TribalTV but I can't see/hear anything there. I have RealPlayer and >ShockWave, and Netscape Navigator 3.02. Has anyone already heard some >Kraftwerk stuff? Please! Well folks, the day came and went. On my current setup (486SX-33, 3.11 Windows, 14.4 modem) I was unable to receive anything today in the way of audio or video from the Tribal Gathering, so you can be sure I'll be looking to get in touch with someone that was able to copy the broadcast of KW's set. I know of several other people who were unable to get any results from the TribalTV website or the BBC radio site, so I have a feeling it's gonna get messy out here. :) Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill barnhill@easyway.net "Eins Zwei Drei Vier..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk on soon! Date: 25 May 1997 01:27:45 +0200 I too have been disappointed at not hearing or seeing anything about Kraftwerk on the Radio 1 or Tribal TV site, but: the Pete Tong Essential Mix selection plays live now (accessed through the Listening Booth at Radio 1), and I just heard the announcer saying that after the current set by a DJ, the current attraction will be on - Kraftwerk. All hope is not lost yet! Does this mean that Kraftwerk's concert was postphoned, or will Radio 1 play a recording from earlier on? In any case, they will play in some minutes... Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt, joarg@hsr.no /// WWW: Enigma/Sandra http://www.stud.his.no/~joarg/ /// Eschew obfuscation. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: joarg@hsr.no Subject: (kw) Playing now........ Date: 25 May 1997 02:01:54 +0200 1 am UTC.... Kraftwerk in RealAudio... (now) :) Joar -- Joar Grimstvedt, joarg@hsr.no /// WWW: Enigma/Sandra http://www.stud.his.no/~joarg/ /// Eschew obfuscation. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Melzer" Subject: (kw) NOW Date: 25 May 1997 02:02:45 +0200 Kraftwerk is on BBC One NOW (02:00 CET) Hasta luego Michael Melzer e-mail: h8551159@asterix.wu-wien.ac.at WWW: http://www.wu-wien.ac.at/usr/h85/h8551159/fanet.htm ¿ Hay una discoteca por aquí ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Barth" Subject: (kw) Yesyesyes Kraftwerk Live!! Date: 25 May 1997 02:08:19 +0200 Yesyesyesyes! At this moment live from (but recorded by) the BBC: Meine Damen und Herrn, .. KRAFTWERK!!!! It is in the essential mix (emix.ra) After about 1 hour in the program (UK: 1 o'clock, here in Holland allready 2 o'clock). Tune in (or find it tomorrow in the BBC archives). Cheers Erik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Melzer" Subject: (kw) NOW Date: 25 May 1997 02:10:02 +0200 I get the BBC1 radio broadcast thru satellite (Astra), the quality is superb. They started with numbers, now they are playing Compuerworld. Michael Melzer e-mail: h8551159@asterix.wu-wien.ac.at WWW: http://www.wu-wien.ac.at/usr/h85/h8551159/fanet.htm ¿ Hay una discoteca por aquí ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: f.b.colomb@private.nethead.co.uk (Ben Colomb) Date: 25 May 1997 01:53:07 +0100 just listened to kraftwerk at TG on radio 1. No new material... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Luca Dassi Subject: (kw) KW on BBC1 - nothing new on the air Date: 25 May 1997 03:06:11 +0100 KW went on the air on BBC1 between 1 and 2 AM GMT. Track list; - Numbers - Computer world - Trans Europe Express - Radio-activity - Pocket Calculator - The Robots then BBC1 switched to another set...rats! I heard some vocoded "OH" in the background...could have been "Ohm sweet Ohm" or "Autobahn". All versions were roughly on "the Mix" style, with a very long and interesting "Robots" version. Ralf's way of singing has changed slightly - less melodic, more speech-like. A big emotion, though - I did tape everything (from Astra satellite) Let's hope someone tapes the rest *live*. Gute Nacht, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: f.b.colomb@private.nethead.co.uk (Ben Colomb) Subject: (kw) TG Date: 25 May 1997 02:09:31 +0100 set was- intro - same as The Mix tour 1991. 1. Numbers - spacey 2. Radioactivity - as per The Mix though slightly faster. 3. Trans Europe Express - Very nice "string" section at the end 4. Pocket Calculator - House version - very fast, new bass sound 5. Robots - as per The Mix apart from a new ending. Too be honest, pretty well the same as the 1991 tour. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: hiroshi@pobox.com (Hiroshi MURATA) Subject: (kw) Net Live Date: 25 May 1997 12:30:40 +0900 Dear 'Werkers, ... The day has gone. How was the live? I'm sure we all wish to know how it went. 8-) Some fans in this list wrote the Net boadcast was not well. I couldn't even try it here. Will the site be available later on? If it's ok, I'd try the site soon. :-) BTW, on the same day, 24/May/1997, there was another Net live in Tokyo. A session of Ryuichi Sakamoto. It went pretty well through the Net. Some friends of mine even said, that they once planned to visit the place, but they liked the Net better, and they didn't came there. ;-) If there'll ever be another Net broadcast for Kraftwerk gig again, I hope it'll be more accessible. I'd love to enjoy it here. :-) Best, Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LM Subject: Re: (kw) Fear of a Black Planet #3 Date: 24 May 1997 11:31:06 -0700 Adam Schefflan wrote: > >>> Besides that "cRap" thing (I refuse to write it without the "c" > in the front)... <<< > Are you talking about that pop-oriented shit or real hip-hop--phat > beats, Whatever... > thought-provoking rhymes? Thought-provoking? Some guys swearing all over a distorted beat? What are they trying to prove? The highest number times they can say the "F" word in a song? And, oh boy, those guys can't even spell right... :-))) > You're defaming the "last voice of Black people" (--KRS-One). Who? > Before you dis the most important cultural/social movement ever to > come from the wildlands of the travesty of the United Snakes of > AmeriKKKa, where Mighty Whytie continues to oppress all USA citizens, Gee, why do these people always have come up with all those conspiracy theories? Why is everybody in America blaming some other group of people for their own personal problems? Black people are blaming on white people, who in turn blame it on the immigrants. Man, it really sucks! ;-) Music has no [skin] colors. Music is not about your hairstyle. If you like any style of music, you're free to enjoy it. Just don't force it down somebody else's throat. > get the 411, kid! You don't have to like it, just give props > where they're due!!! I just stated my feelings about music. If I like it, I like it and appreciate it (and if I'm in a supposedly silent public space, I use headphones, not an overdriven cheap boombox). If I don't like it, I don't have to swallow it. ;-) |_ |\/| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larry R. LaCost Jr." Subject: Re: (kw) Tribal Gathering Real Audio Hoax Date: 24 May 1997 20:27:37 -0700 I'll second that!!! Musique All Stopped, Techno Flop! Certainly technical problems existed when this concert happened. But I wonder if they even tested their equipment a few days before the event in case of any glitches. It's sad to see this important event come and go without all the bases being covered. I'll also pay for a copy of anyone who may have filmed or have taped the concert. Larry R. LaCost Jr. llacost@sand-piper.com At 06:28 PM 5/24/97 -0400, Bruce M. Lloyd wrote: >Once again the Internet proves to be 100% bullshit. The BBC Radio 1 site >is *not* playing Tribal Gather live on any other their Real Audio feeds. >They're all archived files from God only knows when. > >If someone taped the show from the radio, I'd be glad to pay for a copy.. > >Bruce > > > > ---- > Bruce M. Lloyd, bml@bgi.on.ca > Macintosh Technical Support Services and Systems Engineer > BGI Systems Integration > Markham, Ontario, Canada > > > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. ># Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Weustink Subject: (kw) Realaudio file ready! Date: 25 May 1997 05:39:31 +0200 Hello, Ive got one realaudio file ready. In good quality but a little big for that reason:2,8 mb. Its the superb opening song version of numbers/compw of the TG concert. The BBC broadcasted +- 7 songs robots, pocket calculator,tee,computerworld,radioactivity,dentaku,and Idont remember if there were more. About 45 minutes total. I will add some more in a few days Bob Weustink bwe@dds.nl http://www.xs4all.nl/~bwe/index2.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Fw: A bit of KW's gig on Radio1 Date: 24 May 1997 20:04:10 -0700 SMALL consolation- I picked up a very choppy broadcast on the BBC Radio1 = WebSite at 5pm PDT. I don't know by how much it was delayed. They were = broadcasting another artist, then they suddenly switched to KW and I = heard Computer World/Numbers, RADIOACTIVITY, Trans-Europe Express, = Computer Love, -(I lost xmission just as the song started, and my = Computer froze on me, so I had to shut down & reboot)-, then I heard = ROBOTS. I'm in the #Kraftwerk Chatroom as I type this. Exceller8 says = they played Pocket Calculator before ROBOTS, so, I missed it. They only = aired about 50 minutes. I didn't hear any new tunes during that time. No = video either, dammit. Tribal TV SUCKS!! What a let-down! Jeez- I missed = ST: Voyager for THIS?? sheesh!! I'll be GLAD to get a TAPE of the = GiG.... ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -(Foto & Profile)- http://www.scifi.com -(I live in The DOMINION Lounge. Same Foto, = different Text.)- =3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3D ---------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) Tribal Recordings? Date: 25 May 1997 01:35:07 -0400 Kraftwerkians, I imagine the list is gonna be flooded with requests for recordings of the Tribal Gathering, so here's mine. Since I'm not capable of running any RealAudio files over here, I'm looking for anyone that's got the KW performance on cassette. If anyone's able to transform the RealAudio into .wav or .au format, let me know as that'd work too! -- Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) KRAFTWERK on AMP!! NOW!! Date: 25 May 1997 01:08:28 -0700 I'm SURE it said KRAFTWERK and not KRAFTWELT.... I don't know what it'll = be, but, I'm taping the whole hour.... will rep[ort tomorrow.... tune in = QUICK if you can- it's 1am PDT now. ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -(Foto & Profile)- http://www.scifi.com -(I live in The DOMINION Lounge. Same Foto, = different Text.)- =3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 01:00:53 -0700 From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Small Consolation, indeed. Okay, I'm listening to Pocket Calculator on BBC Radio1 "Essential Mix", = which I'd missed earlier. I lost connection a few seconds into the song. = My mistake- it was NOT Computer Love, as I initially thought. Atleast = the sound quality is much clearer, now that the gig is over.*argh*. = Maybe they'll show a KW video on AMP tonight.... ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -(Foto & Profile)- http://www.scifi.com -(I live in The DOMINION Lounge. Same Foto, = different Text.)- =3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Barth" Subject: (kw) How to get the RealAudio file? Date: 25 May 1997 12:20:07 +0200 Hello all, I like to have a local copy of the BBC real audio file. I know it's somewhere at "pnm://ra.bbc.co.uk/radio1/live/emix.ra" but I can't get it at the moment and I'm afraid it won't be there for long. Does someone know how to download it? The "Save as" opion in the Internet Explorer doesn't work. Regards, Erik # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Conny_Fornb=E4ck?= Subject: (kw) Tribal TV archive Date: 25 May 1997 13:19:12 +0200 I did't have any problems listening to the BBC-RA-file. It's still there = - in the listening booth - at the Essential Mix - almost exactly one = hour into the clip - and continuing for almost 50 minutes. It was a bit of a dissapointment, though. The songs they played have = changed only marginally since the '91-set. (Except for the intro for = Radioactivity). And it was a very short show. I really hope that they = played a few extra-songs after BBC left them. (the small bit of the = vocoder-intro of Ohm Sweet Ohm that could be heard, was not from the = KW-set. It was the intro to the Chemical Brothers song "Leave Home" = (sampled directly from KW)). Apparently, the Tribal TV server crashed last night. But now they are = promising that they have built up a large archive of video- and = audio-clips. So I guess that in a few day we will be able to see the = taped show on Tribal TV. :) Meanwhile: Add me to the list of people who wants a copy of the = radio-taped version. I am also interested in a copy recorded from the = crowd/mixing desk, if they played more songs after "the Robots". /Conny Ps. What happened to the 4 new songs that they were supposed to play? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: (kw) TG BBC Broadcast Date: 25 May 1997 12:15:36 +0000 Well, I stayed up last night for KW's performance to be broadcast live on BBC. They were scheduled to start at 10:00 GMT, but in the end didn't actually start 'til just after 1:00 AM GMT. The atmosphere, even over the fuzzy radio, was absolutely electric. The crowd went completely wild - far wilder than for any of the musicians who'd been on previously. They calm down a little... then the vocoder voice comes through - "DIE MENSCH MACHINE... KRAFT...WERK" and some other words in German. Then a cool - completely live (not playbacked) - "Numbers" begins. Absolutely brilliant ! KW Played the following tracks : Numbers Computerworld Radioactivity (this was preceded by some statistics on radioactive substances) Trans Europe Express The Robots Pocket Calculator Ohm Sweet Ohm Now, get this - the BAD news, and it's REALLY bad!! The bastards at the BBC decided to stop broadcasting Kraftwerk, and switched over to some second rate DJ instead, after 45 mins of KW!!! I could just hear Ohm Sweet Ohm fading out. How stupid of the BBC to cut the broadcast of a band who haven't played live for 5 years and haven't released an album for 7 years !!???!! If they played any new material there, then we never got to hear it. I have a feeling (just a feeling) that they didn't play any new stuff there. I was able to get a fairly decent recording of this 45 minute bit anyway. Please don't mail me in private about this just yet; I'll post a message to the list in a week's time to see if anyone wants a copy. I can see from the messages that quite a few of you will want a copy of this. I'd be glad to do it - but we need to let it wait a week or so, so that I can get organised. -- /=======================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | | Influence and inspiration from : | | Jarre Vangelis Tomita Carlos Erasure Pinhas TangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.co.uk/customers/Alliance)| \=======================================================================/ My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right. -- Ashleigh Brilliant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Steve Knee Subject: (kw) Taped! Date: 25 May 1997 12:25:27 +0100 Hi all, Okay people, relax. I have the Kraftwerk broadcast on DAT and will look in to CD burning soon, but it may take a while. Stick with it, I will sort you all out in time. We'll have to discuss how we're going to implement all this payment stuff, etc, but don't worry, I can be trusted! I'm not about to rip off fellow Kraftwerkians! As for the gig, well? 50mins of old stuff! I'm just glad I didn't pay 35 to go and see it! I went to see the Manics at Nynex (on my doorstep) and certainly got my money's worth. Why can't Kraftwerk give us what we want instead of reaffirming their sense of control over everyone who is involved with them, including their record company? 'Don't bite the hand that feeds you'?! They don't seem to care. Don't rely on the RealAudio, it uses a 42:1 data compression ratio. Bit bad really. Anyhow, I'll talk to you all soon. Cheers, Steve. Steve@cloudbass.demon.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: (kw) News from Jules at TG Date: 25 May 1997 10:22:55 -0400 Hi everybody, = Looks like most got to hear at least some of the set. Nobody has mentione= d the new song!!!! I had a prime position just to the right of the stage, four rows-ish back= =2E New song came at the second encore. It sounded like a 140bpm backwards version of Nitzer Ebb's 'join in the chant' but with the familiar kw-esqu= e trimmings. nothing particularly groundbreaking, but nevertheless a new track!!! Whilst new song was played, the band came on in black rubber suits with flourescent green lines, each member sporting a pair of 'riddler' style shades!!! The new song is FAST. Thats it. got to go to bed now. I have been up since last night. Lastly, I've only seen them five times, but I thought last night was the best................ I don't think the critics can quite write them off yet!!! Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Luca Dassi Subject: (kw) Only one? Date: 25 May 1997 16:42:59 +0100 So, only one new song? As a second encore? Could someone who's been there please post the complete track list? Jules, please, tell us the title also? Was it "The Inspector", "Rendezvous" or what? Bye, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Pilgrim Subject: (kw) You CAN hear Taped the Concert at BBC Web Site Date: 25 May 1997 11:57:27 -0700 Goto http:\\www.bbc.co.uk select UK Radio (in menu on left) select radio1 select listening booth (on left side of screen) select esential mix (second from left on top bar) When real audio starts, skip to about 58min into the track and you will hear Kraftewerk's 45min passage. I was dissapointed with Universe.co too....as well I was dissappointed by KW. I was hoping to hear new music. Since BBC broadcast "live" about 2-3 hours after KW was supposed to start...I think it may have been a delayed broadcast. As well there is 45 min missing from the 1.5 hour show!!! As well if Numbers was the opening act then it was a terrible audience..they were much louder during the robots at the end. I think that there was more...wait until someone from the concert reports in. btw TEE stunk...who wants to take a train ride in the middle of a concert. As well RobotsII and Radioacktivity were the same as on Sellafield video. I was disappointed. Philip -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "neil lawrence" Subject: (kw) kraftwerk on video Date: 25 May 1997 16:30:04 +0100 I was looking at the universe site, and they have a tribal tv page which is promising to stream video and audio from the Tribal Gathering. Nothing there yet (You may know this already, but I just re-joined the mailing list) The site is at www.tribaltv.com "Why cant life have an "undo" button?" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daneel Olivaw Subject: Re: (kw) You CAN hear Taped the Concert at BBC Web Site Date: 26 May 1997 13:40:23 +0600 Here's the URL of the actual realaudio file. It's about an hour into the thing that the music actually starts. http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/listeningbooth/emix.ram # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fermin Goiriz" Subject: (kw) Any new song? Date: 25 May 1997 19:17:27 +0200 Hi, Does anyone know if after playing those seven songs broadcasted by BBC, they played any new stuff? Thanks, Fermín Goiriz j021850503@abonados.cplus.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fermin Goiriz" Subject: RE: (kw) You CAN hear Taped the Concert at BBC Web Site Date: 25 May 1997 19:49:28 +0200 > I was dissapointed with Universe.co too....as well I was dissappointed > by KW. I was hoping to hear new music. > > Since BBC broadcast "live" about 2-3 hours after KW was supposed to > start...I think it may have been a delayed broadcast. > As well there is 45 min missing from the 1.5 hour show!!! > As well if Numbers was the opening act then it was a terrible > audience..they were much louder during the robots at the end. > I think that there was more...wait until someone from the > concert reports in. > > btw TEE stunk...who wants to take a train ride in the middle of a > concert. As well RobotsII and Radioacktivity were the same as on > Sellafield video. I was disappointed. > > Philip Yeah me too. If they don't have new songs, why do they play live? It's nonsense. Moreover, I think that the Mix stuff is a bit outdated (Robots, Pocket Calc, Computer Love; not TEE nor Music Non Stop), unlike the older versions. Fermín Goiriz j021850503@abonados.cplus.es "All those people who wanted to work with us, and we never even did a soundtrack. We could have crossed over, become a big, big-selling band. But there was never any management, not even on a small level, like two or three people. There was no telephone, no fax, nothing. And in this business, if you need five years to put out a record, then people forget about you. " --Karl Bartos. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) BIG OL' NEWS #2 Date: 25 May 1997 14:42:19 EDT YESTERDAY (Saturday) ON MTV'S "AMP," THEY PLAYED "THE ROBOTS" ("The Mix" version)!!!! If you missed it, the repeat broadcast is on Friday at 2:00am (Saturday morning). It was really cheesy and weird. All you saw were the KW robots moving their arms. The lyrics, in Russian and English, were plastered on the background in early-computer-styled graphics. Since this is the USA, they misidentified the label as EMI, when it's Elektra here, naah mean? "Amp" is so annoying because they can't play one video at a time--the video only played for 3 minutes, and they kept on mixing A Guy Called Gerald's "Voodoo Ray" throughout "The Robots." When they finally did play "Voodoo Ray," it was on for less than a minute, and I've never seen either video! Slow down, MTV! Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) ROBOTS on AMP!! Date: 25 May 1997 10:40:09 -0700 HALLELUJAH!! Well, I feel better now. They played ROBOTS on AMP last night! I tried = to post a quick message as soon as the artist line-up was flashed on the = screen, but, it didn't fly. -(and I made DAMNED sure it wasn't KraftweLT = before I started whoopin' & hollerin'.)- I recorded the whole hour- = sorry I didn't write down a play list, but, there were plenty of other = good videos, too- Riuchi Sakamoto, for one, and "Psyche Rock" -I forget = the artist- with all the KuTe EleKtroniK components doin' their thang. So, this is a nice little bit of consolation for being cheated out of = seeing 'em LIVE on Tribal TV, with only a crummy quality delayed = broadcast of the "retro" part of their set on BBC Radio1. -That is IF = they played any new tunes at ALL, we sure as hell didn't get to hear = 'em. -(It figgers. R&F have BootLeg Paranoia, y'know.)- Hopefully Tribal = TV will have some footage in their archives so we can see what the stage = looked like and everything. -(I couldn't catch 'em LIVE on the Net, so, = I couldn't make an Astral-Connection. Damn!)- The Radio1 broadcast is = still there on Essential Mix. It sounds pretty clear now that the Net is = no longer jammed so it doesn't cut out and "rebuffer" itself every few = seconds. I'm eagerly looking forward to Tapes & Fotos! -(Hm-m, where's my post = titled "Outta Luck!!"? I was talking about scanning fotos for people, = etc. A couple of other posts didn't make it, either. What's going on??)- ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -(Foto & Profile)- http://www.scifi.com -(I live in The DOMINION Lounge. Same Foto, = different Text.)- =3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Fw: Outta Luck!! -(2nd attempt to post this)- Date: 25 May 1997 10:47:12 -0700 This really sucks. I visited the Tribal TV WebSite yesterday, as well as = BBC Radio1, and everything appeared okay. Then I checked earlier today = and couldn't log on to Tribal TV. They ask you to enter your name & = address. Well, yesterday it WERKed, but, today it doesn't. I get a = message saying: "An invalid URL was used as a property or in a NetLingo = command." My husband poked around the "Universe" Tribal TV site, figured = he needed to download the newest versions of PealPlayer and Shockwave- = which wiped out the previous versions on the hard drive- wasted 2 good = hours of on-line time, and we STILL can't get Tribal TV, although I can = access their "Transmission" section and post/respond to messages. Radio1 = is too jammed, so, I can't pick that up, either. God- this hurts! I had = my heart set on seeing the VIDEO of the stage set and stuff, WHILE = they're PLAYING. So much for seeing it LIVE. I can only hope that Tribal = TV will preserve the video so I can view it later, along with Orbital & = Daft Punk, etc. Otherwise, I gotta wait for KW on tape via SnailMail. = -(Thank you, Brendan Heading and Jeff Schneider! I owe you guys a = K-shirt and a heap o'Gratitude!)- At the very least, I hope somebody takes a LOT of good pictures! I'd = LOVE to have duplicates- I beg, I plead! In fact, for those of you Lucky = ShutterBugs in attendance who do not have scanners, my husband has = agreed to scan pictures in exchange for keeping any prints you send, so = we can scan them for you in whatever format/size/resolution you need and = Email the images back to you in exchange for keeping the prints. = -(Besides, you wouldn't want 'em back after they've been drooled on- = and, needless to say, please do NOT risk mailing any negatives ofcourse. = Regular sized prints are fine: 4" x 6" or 3 1/2" x 5".)- If you don't = need us to scan Fotos for you, and you want to swap prints for a K-shirt = or reasonable co$t, that's okay, too. Whatever's fair. I'm FLAT broke, = but, I will gladly give of my my TIME and artistic "talent" or what = little ca$h I can afford in exchange for pictures. I'm absolutely = CRUSHED that I can't get the Konzert LIVE on the Net. Lord, have = mercy.... I'll make one last desperate attempt.... -(UPDATE)- I tried to post this yesterday. If it appears more than once, I = apologize. Other posts didn't make it, either. ROBOT aka: Melanie Jean Mayfield 805 "M" Street Eureka, CA. 95501-1947 USA ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -(Foto & Profile)- http://www.scifi.com -(I live in The DOMINION Lounge. Same Foto, = different Text.)- =3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3D ---------- ---------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tiger Moses Subject: (kw) RA files Date: 25 May 1997 14:34:12 -0500 The guy in the netherlands has done a wonderful job at putting some RA files on his kraftwerk page for us to enjoy, since TRIBALTV has been a dissapointment so far. His page is at http://www.xs4all.nl/~bwe/luton.htm I have put copies of the RA file on my ftp server for you guys to get, more or less a USA mirror. ftp://206.42.44.213 Other kraftwerk/TG are welcome to be uploaded Tiger Moses also tigster@geocities.com homepage www.blkbox.com/~tmoses/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: (kw) To list : TG BBC Broadcast Date: 25 May 1997 17:58:13 +0000 Anders sent this to me by accident, and asked me to forward it to the list : > Pocket Calculator > Ohm Sweet Ohm > > Now, get this - the BAD news, and it's REALLY bad!! The bastards at the BBC > decided to stop broadcasting Kraftwerk, and switched over to some second rate > DJ instead, after 45 mins of KW!!! I could just hear Ohm Sweet Ohm fading out. Hmmm... I wouldn't really call Chemical Brothers "a second rate DJ"... I found it quite funny that BBC followed up the Kraftwerk concert with the C.B-anthem - "Dark and long", with the sample of Ohm sweet ohm in the beginning. My guess is that BBC was allowed to broadcast only a part of the show. Kraftwerk not playing any new material at TG was not really a big surprise. /aw -- *************************************************************************** * Anders Wilhelm * mailto:dvlawm@cs.umu.se or trafo@analogue.org * * Umea University * http://www.cs.umu.se/~dvlawm * * Sweden * http://wilhelm.ml.org/ * *************************************************************************** -- /=======================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | | Influence and inspiration from : | | Jarre Vangelis Tomita Carlos Erasure Pinhas TangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.co.uk/customers/Alliance)| \=======================================================================/ "Blessed are the cracks, for they let the light through!" - Rev. Stevie Fever # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Regor@webtv.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Roger_D=E9ziel?=) Subject: Fwd: (kw) You CAN hear Taped the Concert at BBC Web Site Date: 25 May 1997 16:39:54 -0400 --WebTV-Mail-988038189-923 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi ! I just did exactly what the "included message" said. I went to the "Essential Mix". But I DID NOT HEAR a single note of Kraftwerk! All I heard was what seemed to be the same "beat" for 2 hours, then the "real audio" stopped. What a disappointment! I guess "Radio 1" changed it's "essential mix". And there is nothing in the "Radio 1 Archives" yet. If someone knows where I can find some "audio" of that Kraftwerk concert, please let me know. Thanks. -- Roger Regor@webtv.net Using WebTV=99 since 01/09/97 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --WebTV-Mail-988038189-923 Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-ID: <33888B97.3D95@atcon.com> Organization: Lab Audio Works X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-kraftwerk@xmission.com Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes Goto http:\\www.bbc.co.uk select UK Radio (in menu on left) select radio1 select listening booth (on left side of screen) select esential mix (second from left on top bar) When real audio starts, skip to about 58min into the track and you will hear Kraftewerk's 45min passage. I was dissapointed with Universe.co too....as well I was dissappointed by KW. I was hoping to hear new music. Since BBC broadcast "live" about 2-3 hours after KW was supposed to start...I think it may have been a delayed broadcast. As well there is 45 min missing from the 1.5 hour show!!! As well if Numbers was the opening act then it was a terrible audience..they were much louder during the robots at the end. I think that there was more...wait until someone from the concert reports in. btw TEE stunk...who wants to take a train ride in the middle of a concert. As well RobotsII and Radioacktivity were the same as on Sellafield video. I was disappointed. Philip -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. --WebTV-Mail-988038189-923-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Pilgrim Subject: Re: (kw) Tribal Recordings? Date: 25 May 1997 18:02:31 -0700 Scott M. Barnhill wrote: > any RealAudio files over here, I'm looking for anyone that's got the KW > performance on cassette. >If anyone's able to transform the RealAudio into .wav or .au format, > let me know as that'd work too! I have it on cassette but I would like to get the raw .ra file and stream into my DAT digitaly. Then follow this up with some audio enhancing then plunk it down on CD-r. Can anyone email me the .ra file? Philip -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "neil lawrence" Subject: (kw) Tribal Gathering report Date: 25 May 1997 22:18:26 +0100 Lets add some atmosphere to these reviews to help our friends who couldn't be there..... I left it a bit late getting to the Trans European tent as I wanted to catch Fluke and meet a friend before the set. You probably all know that the tent that Kraftwerk were in was not that big, and this became very apparent as we arrived at the entrance. I had NEVER seen so many people attempt to get into a space that size. A lot of pushing went on. Another friend who got there at 9.30pm said there was NO music to keep the crowds happy before the set, and that Kraftwerk were 10 mins late starting (predictably). Some folks were getting restless.... I was interested in the people that went to the set and their reactions. I'm in my 30's, and saw KW in '81 and '91, but the people that turned up that night were really young and really enthusiastic about Kraftwerk. BIG reaction when they started up, although it was pretty much the same as the '91 tour. I have to admit I was really disappointed with the first half of the set. Nothing seem to have changed, and the tempos were just that bit too slow for people to dance to. I was ready to write them off but then they did Radioactivity, which was just fantastic. Bad choice of follow-up with TEE, which brought the tempo down again. Those who saw KW on their last tour will know of the little surprises they like to pull on the audience in encores. This was almost ruined by a temperamental curtain, which would not slide across to completely hide the stage. Ralf was spotted returning to turn off the music after the traditional "one-by-one walk off" finale. Rumours of the set being cut by half an hour were rubbish; they played for almost two hours. Rumours that four new songs would be played were rubbish; they played just one. This song went down great with the crowd as it sounded very fresh and in line with what the rest of Tribal Gathering was offering, although I wouldn't consider it a musically significant piece. Pocket Calculator was fun, but when they stepped out from behind their consoles you started to get an idea of just how old they are now. Florian looked older than my dad! I wonder if others will judge them on how good the performance was, or simply that they managed to see KW again after 6 years. Would they honestly say that KW put their hearts into their performance, or indeed have done any real work since '91? I would rate it as fairly average, and after watching Orbital immediately afterwards I quickly discovered where the energy in electronic music now resides. Flame me if you will, but that's how I see it. Lawrence # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) TG live Date: 25 May 1997 22:31:13 +0100 > From: f.b.colomb@private.nethead.co.uk (Ben Colomb) > intro - same as The Mix tour 1991. > 1. Numbers - spacey > 2. Radioactivity - as per The Mix though slightly faster. > 3. Trans Europe Express - Very nice "string" section at the end > 4. Pocket Calculator - House version - very fast, new bass sound > 5. Robots - as per The Mix apart from a new ending. > > Too be honest, pretty well the same as the 1991 tour. those dolts at the BBC went over to something else before the end. infact it couldn't have been transmitted live as such, judging by the tracks listed above, it must have been edited and transmitted a hour or two later. Kraftwerk started to play at approx 10.20pm GMT, not 1.00am GMT as somebody else who taped it off the radio mentioned. those who heard the radio broadcast and felt smug about saving 35 quid will be disapointed: kraftwerk where on top form and played tweleve cracking tunes last night, including a new one. here's the set list, (maybe one or two in worng order, i was too busy dancing to take notes ;-) 1. numbers 2. computerworld 3. homecomputer 4. the man machine (new version) 5. tour de france [spoken interlude - vocoded anti-nuclear diatribe - scarry stuff!] 6. radioactivity (new very aggressive version) 7. autobahn (less like the mix more like the original version) 8. trans europe express first encore: 9. pocket calculator (+ dentaku!) second encore: 10. the robots third encore: 11. [new track] 12. musique non stop the versions where quite different from the mix tour. the bass lines and kick drum where well to the fore - much more so than ever before. also many of the drum patterns where more up to date. the fills in pocket calculator where little breakbeats instead of the usual bleeps and pings, Florian has now lost all his hair which makes the group look twice as aged as before but man, did he throw some shapes during PC - the full jimi hendrix play-it-with-your-teeth business. wonderful! the new stage uniforms (especially the wireframe UV reflective 'skeleton' suits worn for the new song) are superb. the amount of work put into the new set leads me to suspect that this is *not* the last we've seen of KW live. oh no... on this occasion the stage layout was in a straight line - that is directly facing the audience - a lot more confrontational than the traditional semi-circle / L bend set up, more in keeping with their new agressive sound. the new album will be fantastic! Jon Alsbury # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) "guitar bands"/ Electronica Date: 25 May 1997 23:18:04 +0000 > From: Skylink3@aol.com > << Though most of us would probably agree that most or all of the stuff being > promoted as "alternative" rock is really just a load of crap, that's not > what I believe this person meant when they referred to crossover/guitar > music. A lot of the most interesting music being done in America right now > is guitar-based. Artists like Labradford, Bowery Electric, Windy & Carl, that's exactly what i was getting at. in the light of some of the outrageous statements made recently on this topic i shall certainly choose my words with more care in future. > dont even know how to play their guitars. I think it is cool that you like > these bands but as far as originality and creativity, electronic music may be > the last avenue. I don't mean to dis any fans of guitar music I am just > stressing that at the current moment Orbital or Underworld may very well be > the most creative acts going. hopefully Kraftwerk will rise again and be > added to that short list. Why should any of us doubt them at this point? i would like to make it clear that i am a great fan of Orbital and Underworld etc, as well as electronic music in general, however one should not simply dismiss all guitar based music as crap. A significant proportion is anything but and to do so would be a gross act of bigotry that every liberal person should oppose vigourously. Jon Alsbury # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Humphrey" Subject: (kw) Tribal Gathering Review Date: 26 May 1997 00:12:08 +0100 Sorry, but this mail is a little on the long side. I went to Tribal Gathering with my friend Andy. After spending the day checking out all of the tents (a lot of good stuff there was too), we decided that the only way to guarantee a good spot would be to turn up at the Trans Europe tent nice and early. This we did (2 and a half hours early in fact). We chilled out to the strange sounds of The Two Lone Swordsmen, who completed their 8 hour set (I kid you not!) at 9pm. There followed an hour of silence whilst things were set up. As the time approached 10pm you could feel the air of anticipation. 10pm came and went and everyone started to become impatient. Then at 10.15 the sound system came to life with "Die Mensch Machine..Kaftwerk!" followed by the familiar sounds of Numbers. The audience erupted. The black curtains opened to show four work stations consisting of a keyboard with a console of equipment behind. Behind each workstation was a video projection screen. Four men black collarless suites walked onto stage from the right. Ralf took his place on the far left and Florian on the far right. They played almost emotionless throughout the first part of the set. Florian smiled a couple of times, but managed to restrain himself. I'm sure that I saw Ralf smile once. The curtain closed after the first part of the set. When the curtains reopened (with much encouragement from the crowd!) the four members were standing in front of their work stations, with hand held keyboard/controllers, which were identical apart from Ralf's, who appeared to have the slim-line model! Naturally they performed Pocket Calculator. The atmosphere on stage changed totally. Kraftwerk had given themselves permission to have fun! Ralf tapped his foot furiously. If he had moved his other leg he would have been dancing :) After singing "I'm the operator with my pocket calculator" he made a hand signal. Moving it Across and then down. At one point the lyrics change to Chinese or Japanese. Ralf pulled at the corners of his eyes to make them "slity" (for want of a better word, sorry). Not exactly politically correct, but it was amusing to see him do it. Florian appeared to be having a great time. Grinning most of the way through. Right at the end pretending to play guitar in true rock god style :) , with his hand held controller's cable as the fret board. With Pocket Calculator finished the curtain was closed again. Or they tried to close the curtain. They became stuck. The security staff had to hold them closed. The curtains reopened to the sound of The Robots. But this time nobody appeared on stage. It would seem that it was a recording. None of the console lights were flashing apart from the volume indicators. Just as we thought that The Robots was finishing, it started up again and the video screens elevated to reveal those famous robotic effigies. They started to move their heads and arms. Initially Ralf's head turned to face the other three, and they turned to face him. The curtains were closed again, by the security staff :) When it opened again the chaps were back behind their work stations. But this time their suits were illuminated by fluorescent green bands and matching shades, making them look like green versions of Automan (does anyone remember that show?). A pretty stunning effect. A very fast pounding beat started, with a complex synth pattern over the top of it. The baseline started, and we knew that this was a track that Joe Public was hearing for the very first time. "What was it like?" I hear you ask... Techno! Its fast and repetitive and does not have a prominent melody. Although a melody of sorts does appear a couple of times it doesn't dominate the track. It's very good, but its not special and if a DJ had played it as part their set, only the most discerning listener would realize it was KW. The set drew to a close with Boing Boom Tschak and Technopop. One by one the members of Kraftwerk walked of the stage. Leaving Ralf by himself, finishing off with a wonderful solo of string chords, before he too left the stage. This was the first time I have ever seen Kraftwerk live, and they blew me away. I hadn't anticipated just how good they would be (fool I hear you cry!). The rest of the audience loved it too. The atmosphere was fantastic, and the tent was absolutely jam packed. I've seen a couple mails from people who listened to the RealAudio/BBC *recorded* edited broadcast and thought that audience reaction was lame (must have had pretty poor reception in your area!). All I can say is you should have been there, because you missed out big time!!! We went to see Orbital afterwards. Unfortunately because Kraftwerk ran late, we only just managed to squeeze into a corner of the tent. This meant that the sound quality was appalling, with a massive delay between the sound coming from the speaker stack next to us and the sound arriving from the other side of the tent. Never mind, I'll just have to see them again! But I tell you what, the vibe during the Orbital gig was nowhere near as good that in the Trans Europe tent last night. Kraftwerk were undeniably the highlight of Tribal Gathering '97. Well here's "a" track listing for TG. I say "a" because me and Andy can't remember the exact order of play (and admittedly can't guarantee the accuracy of the track listing either!). But I can say that they didn't play Compluter Love (as some had reported). Er, so here goes. Numbers Computer World Man Machine Tour de France Home Computer / Its More Fun To Compute Autobahn Radioactivity Trans Europe Express Pocket Calculator The Robots Untitled New Track Boing Boom Tschak Techno Pop / Musique Non Stop Cheers Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Future808@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) KRAFTWERK on AMP!! NOW!! Date: 25 May 1997 19:32:14 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-05-25 18:59:52 EDT, robot@humboldt1.com (ROBOT) writes: << I'm SURE it said KRAFTWERK and not KRAFTWELT.... I don't know what it'll be, but, I'm taping the whole hour.... will rep[ort tomorrow.... tune in QUICK if you can- it's 1am PDT now. >> Yes, the gods finally arrived on AMP. For those of you not familiar w/the thing, this Saturdays show (which was last night) will be re-broadcast next Friday night at 1:00 am Central time. So if you missed taping "The Robots" you got a chance next Friday. Am I the only one who noticed some messed up back beats in the distant background? I think someone bled audio signals into KW from some other track. Congrats to all who made it to TG. Being in farmland in Kansas is not too much fun. BTW - for those of you who have not been to #Kraftwerk on Undernet (IRC) check it out. Have come across some interesting people. Bye - _80sboy on EFnet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) How to get the RealAudio file? Date: 25 May 1997 22:23:05 -0400 >I like to have a local copy of the BBC real audio file. I know it's >somewhere at "pnm://ra.bbc.co.uk/radio1/live/emix.ra" but I can't get it at >the moment and I'm afraid it won't be there for long. Does someone know how >to download it? The "Save as" opion in the Internet Explorer doesn't work. I went to the www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/ page earlier today and clicked on the 'Essential Mix' in the listening booth, selected approximately 58 minutes into the RealAudio feed as was mentioned, but no Kraftwerk. It's just a pre-recorded dance music show from some time ago. The whole emix.ra file that I opened was about 1 hr 59 minutes total, and contained no Tribal Gathering audio. I haven't yet heard the KW performance in any shape or form, so I'm dying to hear something! If anyone has a .wav or .au file of the complete BBC broadcast of KW at the TG, please get in touch with me. If nobody has it in this format, then I'll look to get myself a cassette copy from someone who taped the complete thing off the radio. Thanks. -- Scott M. Barnhill barnhill@easyway.net # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Humphrey" Subject: (kw) BBC Broadcast was not "Live" Date: 25 May 1997 13:49:38 +0100 I've been trying to subscribe to this list for some time, and after some technical difficulties have finally succeeded. So, Hello! Well I was there last night, 10 feet from the front of the stage. The atmosphere was incredible (just listen to the crowd noise!) and Kraftwerk were truly fantastic. It was 35 pounds very well spent, in fact the whole day was excellent! This is the bummer though. Contrary to how they made it out, the BBC *DID NOT* broadcast the Kraftwerk set live. They played an edited version one hour after it finished. Kraftwerk came on stage at 10:15 and finished shortly before midnight. That's right, there was a good hour and a half of music, the BBC left a LOT out, including the *new track* That's all for now. If got some things to do, but I send a review of the gig and that new track later on. Cheers Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jose Subject: (kw) Hello.... Date: 25 May 1997 15:27:47 -0400 (EDT) Does anyone knows anything about the Kraftwerk's concert? Jose. _______________________________________________________ "You Can't Lose if The Customer Wins" >From Lima-Peru! :). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Roland Metzger Subject: (kw) Tribal Gathering 97 set list with times.. Date: 25 May 1997 19:00:59 -0400 Here=92s the full setlist of the Kraftwerk-set at Tribal Gathering 97: Numbers 4:36 Computerworld 3:41 It=92s More Fun To Compute 7:50 Man Machine 8:00 Tour De France 6:50 Autobahn 12:00 Radioactivity 7:40 Trans Europe Express 8:30 /// Break Pocket Calculator 10:00 = Robots 9:20 /// Break New Song!!!! (Could be described as full on Techno-Minimalism...) 6:00 Boing Boom Tschak 10:00 All I can say at the moment is that these Germans ruled TG 97. Surely one= of the best concert I have ever seen. The beauty of Man Machine even brought tears to my eyes...... Will probab= ly write more later when recovered. All hail the Robots! Roland # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) The hip-hop revolution continues #2 Date: 25 May 1997 23:04:51 EDT >>> Thought-provoking? Some guys swearing all over a distorted beat? What are they trying to prove? The highest number times they can say the "F" word in a song? And, oh boy, those guys can't even spell right... :-))) <<< Misspellings are ON PURPOSE!!!! Yes, there is cerebral hip-hop. People trying to teach instead of spewing swear-laden filth. Hip-hop's main purpose is to teach to the masses. Lyrical skills is what matters, not how many people you've shot!!!! You've been too much on that Gangsta shit instead of real hip-hop, yo! The essence of real hip-hop is POETRY--it comes from, and is an extension of, the griots of Africa--and that doesn't even begin to cover the production!!!! Check out these albums: Funkytown Pros: "Reachin' A Level of Assassination" (Peace Posse/4th & B'Way/Island/PolyGram) Dr. Octagon: "Dr. Octagonecologyst" (DreamWorks/Geffen/MCA) De La Soul: "De La Soul is Dead" (Tommy Boy/Warner Bros.) Jungle Brothers: "Done by the Forces of Nature" (Warner Bros,) "Organized Konfusion" (Hollywood BASIC/Elektra or Hollywood BASIC/PolyGram) A Tribe Called Quest: "The Low End Theory" or "Midnight Maurauders" (both on Jive/RCA) Boogie Down Productions: "Edutainment" (Jive/RCA) Poor Righteous Teachers: "Pure Poverty" (Profile) Ultramagnetic MCs: "The Four Horsemen" (Wild Pitch/EMI) Lord Finesse & DJ Mike Smooth: "Funky Technician" (Wild Pitch/EMI) Freestyle Fellowship: "Innercity Griots" (4th &B'way/Island/PolyGram) >>> > You're defaming the "last voice of Black people" (--KRS-One). Who? <<< It's obvious to me that you know nothing about the most imprtant music revolution ever by your ignorance of KRS-One, one of the most respected MCs ever. KRS-One is one of the most socially and politically astute artists around today, and as "the teacher," uses hip-hop as a means for social change. Obviously, you mean "rap"--a term invented by the media that only describes such crap as MC Hammer and Sir Mix-A-Lot--instead of real hip-hop. Mainstream media know nothing about hip-hop, and it often opens its mouth in ignorance than try to find the real deal behind the surface. Your pop-culture-influenced ignorance shows me that you take the word of know-nothing pundits rather than find and appreciate what makes hip-hop music what it is. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: Re: (kw) KRAFTWERK on AMP!! NOW!! Date: 26 May 1997 00:54:44 -0700 > From: Julian Seifert > Subject: (kw) KRAFTWERK on AMP!! NOW!! > Date: Sunday, May 25, 1997 3:29 PM >=20 > ROBOT. more info please!!!! >=20 > Is it TG, cos MTV was also there......... >=20 > Jules <> No- it's a video from The MIX. It's very PLAIN, no "frills", just the = ROBOTS doing very slow movements, not really dancing, with the lyrics = projected in the background -Cyryllic alphabet, even! -(sp?)- There's = also a brief animated clip of 4 cartoon ROBOTS as on the sleeve art. I'd = heard of this video, but, I'd never seen it before. It's KooL, ofcourse, = but, it kinda lacks pizzazz. Gee, I wish they'd play Musique Non Stop- = I've only seen still shots. EXcellent Computer Graphics! Now THAT's = PiZZaZZ! Check for this same episode of AMP this Friday at 1am PDT and I think = they run it at 1am EDT, too. There are a lot of good videos throughout = the hour- please email me for a play list if you're interested, or it = should be posted on the MTV WebSite. If you just want to catch = KRAFTWERK, The ROBOTS is played about 40 minutes into the hour. Look for = DJ Shadow "Midnight in a Perfect World", and then there's a bunch of = Commercials. Get ready- as soon as you see the RCA plugs dancing around, = that's your cue to start TAPING! The Russian words will suddenly start = flashing on the screen as the song begins, while the swirling AMP = letters fade in & out as The ROBOTS appear. -(Yeah, they mix a little = bit of weird stuff in there, and the ending fades into the next video.)- = Other noteworthy videos: Ryuichi Sakamoto "TV War" is 2 songs later, and = Ken Abyss "Psyche Rock" is 3 songs after that, at the very end of the = hour. -(The dancing EleKtroniK Components are EXcellent! Good MusiK, = too!)- Unfortunately, they don't always show AMP again on Fridays at = 1am. Sometimes they do Beavis & Butthead, *huh-huh*, or some other lame = shit. -(Do NOT trust the listings!)- I'd like to catch ROBOTS and Psyche = Rock again on a different tape for safe-keeping, if they run it again. = Good Luck! ROBOT@humboldt1.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Conny_Fornb=E4ck?= Subject: (kw) The new track Date: 26 May 1997 10:56:31 +0200 A question to all of you lucky people who were there: Did the "new = track" contain any vocals, or was it completely intrumental?=20 Does it seem reasonable to believe that this was a one-performance-only = song, that they merely made this tune to "flirt" with the TG-audience, = rather than actually presenting a new tune from the (perhaps) = forthcoming album? /Conny # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Conny_Fornb=E4ck?= Subject: (kw) Bootleg? Date: 26 May 1997 10:59:25 +0200 Did *anyone* record the KW-gig live at the festival? It would be nice to hear the full concert, including the new track, even if the sound-quality isn't as good as on the edited BBC-version. /Conny # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Fjellström Subject: Re: (kw) electronica duh Date: 26 May 1997 12:02:40 +0100 > RALF: no i like the hawkwind songs about trolls and stonehenge. > FLORIAN: i like the frank zappa tunes about loose girls and snorting > coke, ja! > RALF: yes, wig out, daddio! "bobby brown goes down" ha ha! > FLORIAN: yes, hahahhahhahahaha. Oh, please. No more now. /Marcus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hiroshi MURATA Subject: Re: (kw) Tribal Gathering 97 set list with times.. Date: 26 May 1997 20:06:32 JST Dear 'Werkers, I'm so excited to hear from you all TG attendants. 8-) Your mails make me so excited! On Sun, 25 May 1997 19:00:59 -0400 Roland Metzger wrote: > New Song!!!! (Could be described as full on Techno-Minimalism...) 6:00 When you come back from the excitement, could you please tell us how the song was? Or, if you don't want to get cooled down by explaining the song, please forget this mail. Anyway, I'm more than happy to know Ralf and Florian DID have a new song. 8-) > The beauty of Man Machine even brought tears to my eyes...... Will probably > write more later when recovered. And your mail brought tears to my eyes... :-) I can imagine how you get excited at the place. I'm sure I'll regret I wasn't there for years. 8-( Best, Hiroshi. ---- Hiroshi Murata (Kokubunji city, Tokyo, Japan) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.23) Date: 26 May 1997 13:48:44 +0000 The current issue of the New Musical Express (24.05.1997) contains a small spoof feature about Kraftwerk (respectively their robots) having appeared at a Mouse on Mars party in Koeln. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Autobahn" reissue / bootleg Date: 26 May 1997 13:49:28 +0000 There is a new Kraftwerk bootleg out (or maybe it is even an official release, I'm not absolutely sure...): an LP picture disc version of "Autobahn" (Mexico, Disc*coleccion, edicion limitada). The picture on side A is the same motive as on the "Trans Europe Express" inner sleeve (Kraftwerk sitting at a table), side B shows the blue/white Autobahn symbol from the "Autobahn" inner sleeve. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Keyboards 6/1997 Date: 26 May 1997 13:49:49 +0000 The June issue of the German magazine "Keyboards" contains a) an interview with Donna Regina, in which she speaks briefly about her cooperation with Yamo, b) a (very favourable) review of the "Time Pie" album, c) a short note in the "News" section, that EMI Electrola turns down all requests for an interview with Kraftwerk categorically. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Fjellström Subject: (kw) Bald Florian (and the sample-CD) Date: 26 May 1997 12:50:04 +0100 I read someone who attended Tribal Gathering said Florian was now totally bald. Weird - whoever sent in that comic strip drawing of Kraftwerk in Future Music issue 54-something must have known that - as in the drawing he is, quite truthfully, bald. /Marcus PS. To ROBOT - I've heard rumours about a device that will write samples onto Wavestation ROM-cards - so there's still hope for Kraftwerk-style-samples in your old Wavestation keyboard! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk in Detroit? Date: 26 May 1997 13:50:06 +0000 The May issue of "Wax" contains a short article titled "Who the fuck are Kraftwerk?". They write that Kraftwerk may play a gig in Detroit in the near future, possibly depending on "how well they go down at the Tribal Gathering". Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk and Wenders Date: 26 May 1997 13:51:04 +0000 From Sonicnet/ATN (5/23/97): Addicted To Noise Senior Writer Gil Kaufman reports: The soundtrack to the latest Wim Wenders (Faraway, So Close) film, The End of Violence, will boast an impressive roster of new and unreleased material from the likes of U2, R.E.M.'s Michael Stipe and the Eels, to name a few. The soundtrack album, slated for release on September 26, will feature a score by soundtrack vet ( and ace slide guitarist) Ry Cooder, as well as new songs from the band Spain ("Every Time I Try"), Medeski, Martin and Wood ("Disrobe"), a U2 and Sinead O'Connor collaboration called "I'm Not Your Baby" (an unreleased song that was recorded for the Pop sessions) and a never-before-released Roy Orbison song ("You May Feel Me Crying"). Also included will be new works from the Mavericks' Raul Malo ("Bailare"), Whiskeytown ("Theme for a Trucker"), Tom Waits ("Little Drop of Poison"), Los Lobos ("Me Estas Matamdo"), the Eels ("Bad News"), DJ Shadow ("Untitled"), and U2 collaborator Howie B ("Don't Even Know She Got One"). In addition, the album will contain a duet between R.E.M. frontman Stipe and Vic Chesnutt on a song entitled "Injured Bird" that the two originally penned a few years ago for folkie Joan Baez, who ended up not recording it. Plans also call for a possible contribution from German electronic pioneers Kraftwerk, their first new material in several years. The Wenders film, which stars Bill Pullman, Andie MacDowell and Gabriel Byrne in a tale about the uncovering of a devious government surveillance plot, will be released in the U.S. in October. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) US tour rumour Date: 26 May 1997 13:52:58 +0000 Florian Anwander, journalist from the "Keys" magazine, who was involved with Florian Schneiders review of the DOEPFER A-100 that appeared in Keys 4/1996, has stated that Kraftwerk are currently preparing an US tour. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) TG photos and reviews wanted Date: 26 May 1997 14:13:37 +0000 I'm looking for photos (any quality) and press reviews (worldwide) from Kraftwerk's appearance at the Tribal Gathering. I have a huge collection of Kraftwerk trade material available. For example, I could offer an audio tape with the complete Tribal Gathering Kraftwerk concert in return. Of course I am also willing to pay cash, if preferred. Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LM Subject: Re: (kw) TG photos and reviews wanted Date: 26 May 1997 09:24:07 -0700 Klaus Zaepke wrote: > I could offer an audio tape with the complete Tribal Gathering > Kraftwerk concert in return. After having written the phrase above, I guess you might as well be prepared to have your mailbox flooded by people asking for a copy of it. :-) |_ |\/| --- L.Meyer@ix.netcom.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dave Hiscock Subject: (kw) Tribal Gathering: I was there! Date: 26 May 1997 18:18:44 +0100 I was one of the lucky people to go to Tribal Gathering to see Kraftwerk. And what can I say?.... They were brilliant!!! They came on stage at about 10.10pm and opened with Numbers. The songs they played were (in not necessarily the right order!): Numbers, Computer World, Home Computer, The Man Machine, Tour De France, Autobahn, Trans Europe Express, Radio Activity, Pocket Calculator, Music Non Stop Most, if not all of the songs were presented in slightly different versions than on The Mix. It all sounded fresh. The highlight however, was when they did an encore after Pocket Calculator. The curtains opened and voila! their suits were now covered with a glowing fluorescent green grid - similar to the wire frame graphics on the Music Non Stop video. They also wore fluorescent green sun glasses! Then they played a new song. I couldn't believe it. It had a fast rhythm and driving sequencer patterns. There were no vocals, and they didn't say what it was called. It was excellent!!! After that they finished with Music Non Stop. I hope they release a live CD of the gig because it was tremendous. I didn't see anyone recording a video of it though. Time will tell..... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) Tribal Gathering 97 set list with times.. Date: 26 May 1997 11:50:54 -0400 >All I can say at the moment is that these Germans ruled TG 97. Surely one >of the best concert I have ever seen. >The beauty of Man Machine even brought tears to my eyes...... Will probably >write more later when recovered. "Man-Machine"!! Wow, now I *really* wish I could get a copy of this entire performance! I haven't even heard any of it yet. :( Sounds like an incredible show, anyone with even a bootleg audio or video cassette recording of the entire KW show PLEASE get in touch with me! :P -- Scott # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LM Subject: Re: (kw) The hip-hop revolution continues #2 Date: 26 May 1997 00:34:16 -0700 Adam Schefflan wrote: > Misspellings are ON PURPOSE!!!! Sure... Whatever you say... Now they even call it a language, don't they? ;-) > Yes, there is cerebral hip-hop. People trying to teach instead of > spewing swear-laden filth. That seems to be the exception rather than the rule. > Hip-hop's main purpose is to teach to the masses. Teach what? Violence and hate? Or how to (mis)spell? ;-) > Lyrical skills is what matters, not how many people you've shot!!!! That's not the image I get. > You've been too much on that Gangsta shit instead of real hip-hop, > yo! I've never been into any "brand" of crap, or "shit" as you already said. Remember as I wrote before, that thing doesn't sound like music to me, so I just try to ignore it. > The essence of real hip-hop is POETRY--it comes from, and is an > extension of, the griots of Africa-- I'd reaaly like to see what the people from Africa have to say about that. I know many foreign types of music (and I mean music) who are really Afro-influenced, and they bear no resemblace to crap at all. Actyually I've already talked to some real african people and what they really think about some of these african-americanisms. But that's beyond the span of this discussion. ;-) > and that doesn't even begin to cover the production!!!! Oh yeah, it's always about production. Forget the contents, the least content the better, as long as the brainless masses keep buying the crap... :-) > Check out these albums: > [long list of words] I would really like to have as much free time as you seem to have, just to try to go through that list, but unfortunately I have to work hard to fulfill my life's needs. I can't just hang out with a boombox playing loud crap and blaming the government or white people for that... ;-) > >>> > You're defaming the "last voice of Black people" (--KRS-One). > Who? <<< > It's obvious to me that you know nothing about the most imprtant music > revolution ever by your ignorance of KRS-One, Now you're stepping behind your limits. I seriously respect your right to love whatever kind of music that YOU may like. But you DO NOT have the right to tell me that I have to accept it. You may even say that the music that I listen to is crap, but NEVER try to enforce your musical tastes on me. It may be the most important thing in the world for YOU, but for me it's just crap. I accept your point of view; why can't you accep mine? > one of the most respected MCs ever. KRS-One is one of the most > socially and politically astute artists around today, and as "the > teacher," uses hip-hop as a means for social change. How come I never heard of him outside the limited span of crap music? > Obviously, you mean "rap"--a term invented by the media that only > describes such crap as MC Hammer and Sir Mix-A-Lot--instead of > real hip-hop. Mainstream media know nothing about hip-hop, and it > often opens its mouth in ignorance than try to find the real deal > behind the surface. See, now you know something that I agree and I would even add that anything created by the media usually is crap. > Your pop-culture-influenced ignorance shows me that you take the > word of know-nothing pundits rather than find and appreciate what > makes hip-hop music what it is. Peace. My opinions on anything are based on what I see with my own eyes and what I listen with my own ear. I live in a large metropolitan area (SF Bay area), and I take a lot of public transportation, so I believe I see many different people and things everyday. But almost everywhere I go there is some ugly kid dressed in a "twice his size" outfit with a cheap boombox playing loud crap on public spaces where otherwise silence would be much appreciated, thank you very much. And all those "songs" say are fuck, kill, rape, s.o.b., and things like that. That's the way I see it everyday in real life. |_ |\/| --- L.Meyer@ix.netcom.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Darren Barwise Subject: (kw) Ceefax report on Kraftwerk Concert Date: 26 May 1997 20:12:47 +0000 Hi, A small review of the Kraftwerk concert is featured on Ch4's Teletext music pages, no.494 (As from Sunday 25th) This gives a listing of the tracks played at Tribal as..... Numbers * Computer World * Home computer The Man Machine Tour De France ( * Played on Radio1 broadcast) AutoBahn RadioActivity * TransEurope Express * Pocket Calculator * The Robots * New Instrumental Music Non-Stop Is this all the tracks that were played? and did the concert last for an hour and a half? Regarding the radio broadcast of the whole event I was pretty disappointed with it, not just because of the length of the Kraftwerk set but also the fact that Orbital and Daft Punk werent featured at all (After going out buying blank tapes!) Seemed to mostly consist of DJ's doing mixing. Darren # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: (kw) Any new song? Date: 26 May 1997 15:34:07 GMT Hi, Does anyone know if after playing those seven songs broadcasted by BBC, they played any new stuff? Thanks, FermIn Goiriz j021850503@abonados.cplus.es YES, they did. One new (?) Song. Sounds like remixed old Electric-Cafe Masters - new updated. No Vocals, but funny performanced. Released as Promo- 12inch Vinyl. (Try to hunt one...) Titeled: "Re make" (?) I was very glad to see them again after 4 Years. Regards Josef # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) TG live Date: 26 May 1997 21:12:33 +0200 (DFT) > the versions where quite different from the mix tour. I would like to disagree. They were almost identical to the versions from 1993, and even the differences to the 1991 versions were very small. > the amount of work put into the new set leads me to suspect > that this is *not* the last we've seen of KW live. oh no... Well, I guess that the few changes in comparison to the concerts from 1993 could have been done in a week or so. On the other hand, having Kraftwerk's working schedule in mind, they needed certainly a year or so to prepare this gig... :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: (kw) Any new song? Date: 26 May 1997 15:34:07 GMT Hi, Does anyone know if after playing those seven songs broadcasted by BBC, they played any new stuff? Thanks, FermIn Goiriz j021850503@abonados.cplus.es YES, they did. One new (?) Song. Sounds like remixed old Electric-Cafe Masters - new updated. No Vocals, but funny performanced. Released as Promo- 12inch Vinyl. (Try to hunt one...) Titeled: "Remake" (?) I was very glad to see them again after 4 Years. Regards Josef # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Video Date: 26 May 1997 20:48:00 +0200 (DFT) > I didn't see anyone recording a video of it though. The full concert was "officially" filmed from the mixing desk. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) To list : TG BBC Broadcast Date: 26 May 1997 22:59:57 +0200 At 05:58 PM 5/25/97 +0000, you wrote: > >Hmmm... >I wouldn't really call Chemical Brothers "a second rate DJ"... I found it >quite funny that BBC followed up the Kraftwerk concert with the C.B-anthem - >"Dark and long", with the sample of Ohm sweet ohm in the beginning. > Hmm, wouldn't that be "Leave Home" instead of "Dark and Long"?? "Dark and Long" is an (excellent) track by Underworld. Laterz, Statik. -- "I doubt, therefore I might be..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: RE: (kw) You CAN hear Taped the Concert at BBC Web Site Date: 26 May 1997 10:04:12 +0000 Fermin Goiriz was saying: >> btw TEE stunk...who wants to take a train ride in the middle of a >> concert. As well RobotsII and Radioacktivity were the same as on >> Sellafield video. I was disappointed. >> >> Philip >Yeah me too. If they don't have new songs, why do they play live? It's >nonsense. They don't need new songs to play live. I was glad to hear that performance, since I've never heard Kraftwerk live before, and now we all know that they are alive and well, and (probably) still in their studio composing! -- /=======================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | | Influence and inspiration from : | | Jarre Vangelis Tomita Carlos Erasure Pinhas TangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.co.uk/customers/Alliance)| \=======================================================================/ There's so much comedy on television. Does that cause comedy in the streets? -- Dick Cavett, mocking the TV-violence debate # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: Re :(kw) To list : TG BBC Broadcast Date: 26 May 1997 08:15:05 -0400 >My guess is that BBC was allowed to broadcast only a part of the >show. Kraftwerk not playing any new material at TG was not >really a big surprise. = Brendan, Please read earlier posts, made firstly by myself , and others to confirm= =2E THEY DID PLAY NEW MATERIAL. right, thats cleared that up. Anyone else??? Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: Re: (kw) Tribal Gathering report Date: 26 May 1997 08:11:14 -0400 >This was almost ruined by a temperamental curtain, which would >not slide across to completely hide the stage. Ralf was spotted >returning to turn off the music after the traditional >"one-by-one walk off" finale. Also, the crowd were bemused when the riggers began to climb all over the= steel columns and beams to try to free the curtains, adding a further distraction!! Still, it was effectively an outdoor gig, and there are always glitches!!= ! Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se (Mats Kadmark) Subject: (kw) TG: ra-files! Date: 26 May 1997 22:19:23 +0200 Hello!!!!=20 =20 If you also have had trouble to download the KW-TG-ra-files at :=20 www.xs4all.n./~bwe/=20 I can send them as an e-mail message....=20 =20 I went to my university, where they have a direct cable=20 connection...and because almost noone was there (it was quite=20 late..21:30)...I could use 4 brand new computers simultanuously, but it=20 still took about 30 minutes to download them...one file on each=20 computer...=20 =20 Anyhow, now I've attached them in an e-mail to myself and when I then=20 check my mailbox at home they'll be there to be downloaded at perhaps=20 5-10 times quicker than from the internet...=20 =20 I only have four files, however; Pocket Calculator, TEE, Radio-Activity=20 and =20 The Robots...still one to go (Numbers+Computerworld)!=20 They are very big, about 12 MB, they are separated into files of about=20 3 MB each.=20 =20 Mail me privately if you want them sent to you by e-mail.=20 =20 Mats Kadmark=20 =20 P.S. You have to have the new Realplayer 4.0 which can be downloaded at=20 www.real.com=20 (it's a free shareware version=you don't have to pay if you don't want=20 to)=20 =20 =20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk cycling shirts Date: 26 May 1997 21:04:36 +0000 I was wondering what others who went to Tribal Gathering thought of the KW merchendise? Disapointment or delight? I thought it was great that they had cycling shirts done instead of T-shirts. My personal favourite is the blue Autobahn, though the flouresent Radioactivity is tasty as well. The shirts are very stylish and an excellent fit too! Jon Alsbury # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anders Wilhelm Subject: (kw) Chem. brothers.... Date: 26 May 1997 23:04:35 +0200 (MDT) > Hmm, wouldn't that be "Leave Home" instead of "Dark and Long"?? "Dark and > Long" is an (excellent) track by Underworld. > > Laterz, Statik. > -- > My misstake, off course it was Leave Home... I have too blame it on being too tired.. :-)/anders -- *************************************************************************** * Anders Wilhelm * mailto:dvlawm@cs.umu.se or trafo@analogue.org * * Umea University * http://www.cs.umu.se/~dvlawm * * Sweden * http://wilhelm.ml.org/ * *************************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bruce M. Lloyd" Subject: (kw) Tribal Gathering Date: 26 May 1997 03:35:44 -0400 Well, BBC Radio 1 finally put their live broadcast of TG on their web site a day after it was over. I'd be fascinated to know their definition of "taped".. Anyway, the idiots cut it off just after The Robots. The Kraftwerk set was cut short. What was after this track? What I listened to was: Numbers * ComputerWorld * Radioactivity TEE Metal on Metal (Abzug) Pocket Calculator Dentaku The Robots Was there anything new played that the BBC decided to skip? Personally, the RealAudio broadcast is shit, it's too noisy from the audience, and obviously, too short. Bruce PS: I'd still be willing to buy a recording from TG if anyone made one.. ---- "Furnish berth to moments, and moments will satiate elbowroom." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: Re: (kw) Tribal Gathering Review Date: 26 May 1997 18:45:24 +0000 Mark Humphrey was saying: >Sorry, but this mail is a little on the long side. Thanks, Mark, for this concise and excellently written review! >Well here's "a" track listing for TG. I say "a" because me and Andy can't >remember the exact order of play (and admittedly can't guarantee the >accuracy of the track listing either!). But I can say that they didn't >play Compluter Love (as some had reported). Er, so here goes. (sniffle> Bastard BBC!!!! Cutting Kraftwerk's performance up like that. Wahh! ;~( -- /=======================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | | Influence and inspiration from : | | Jarre Vangelis Tomita Carlos Erasure Pinhas TangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.co.uk/customers/Alliance)| \=======================================================================/ Don't worry about temptation--as you grow older, it starts avoiding you. -- Old Farmer's Almanac # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Liethen Subject: (kw) KW at TG tape here Date: 26 May 1997 18:38:44 -0600 Hello all, I have the RealAudio files from Tribal Gathering of Kraftwerk from http://www.xs4all.nl/~bwe/luton.htm and anyone who wants a cassete tape, and can't listen to RealAudio, e-mail me, and I will be more than happy to put it on a cassate tape and ship it to you (in the continetal US) All I ask is that you pick up the cost of the tape and shipping (when e-mailing me, tell me what city, state and zip code) Please don't flood me with request. I am only doing this for people that can't listen to RealAudio files. -Peter Liethen pliethen@globaldialog.com http://www.globaldialog.com/~pliethen # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cgross@pop.erols.com (Christopher Gross) Subject: (kw) radio 1 .ra Date: 27 May 1997 13:12:40 -0400 (EDT) The Radio 1 .ra file of the Essential Mix is at pnm://ra.bbc.co.uk/radio1/live/emix.ra. Unfortunately you need permission to access the site via ftp (I tried it), probably for copyright reasons... Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fermin Goiriz" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Remake Date: 27 May 1997 16:58:59 +0200 Hi all! I just ordered to one mail order firm a coloured vynil called "Kraftwerk Remake." The boy from the shop told me it's not a bootleg. Does anybody know what is this? Thanks, Fermín Goiriz j021850503@abonados.cplus.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anders Wilhelm Subject: (kw) Radio1 .ra on the infobahr Date: 27 May 1997 19:29:05 +0200 (MDT) Get it... ;) /anders -- *************************************************************************** * Anders Wilhelm * mailto:dvlawm@cs.umu.se or trafo@analogue.org * * Umea University * http://www.cs.umu.se/~dvlawm * * Sweden * http://wilhelm.ml.org/ * *************************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: (kw) How do they get their money to live? Date: 27 May 1997 20:30:24 +0200 Hi! Just wondering, perhaps someone can help me out. If KW releases an LP every seven years, then they earn some money. But not enough to live on for seven years. Does any of you know what KW (or R & F) do to get their money? To they build keyboards? Are they millionaires from birth? What? How? PLeaZe lemme know, Johan (aka Statik) -- "I doubt, therefore I might be..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert West Subject: Re: (kw) Tribal Gathering Real Audio Hoax Date: 27 May 1997 17:14:28 +0100 (BST) I taped the delayed show aired at 0130 on my sattelite dish onto tape .... On Sat, 24 May 1997, Bruce M. Lloyd wrote: [NOTICE: This message was delayed on its way to the list because it contained excess quoted text, which has been automatically removed. To prevent this from happening to your messages, be sure to include as little text as possible from the message you are responding to.] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Weustink Subject: (kw) test Date: 27 May 1997 22:33:54 +0200 Hello, test test Whats the matter with the list? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert West Subject: Re: (kw) NOW Date: 27 May 1997 17:15:50 +0100 (BST) The only problem was trying to imagine what the audience were screaming at =2E..v On Sun, 25 May 1997, Michael Melzer wrote: [NOTICE: This message was delayed on its way to the list because it contained excess quoted text, which has been automatically removed. To prevent this from happening to your messages, be sure to include as little text as possible from the message you are responding to.] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: (kw) TG - new material played Date: 25 May 1997 14:55:52 +0100 > From: f.b.colomb@private.nethead.co.uk (Ben Colomb) > intro - same as The Mix tour 1991. > 1. Numbers - spacey > 2. Radioactivity - as per The Mix though slightly faster. > 3. Trans Europe Express - Very nice "string" section at the end > 4. Pocket Calculator - House version - very fast, new bass sound > 5. Robots - as per The Mix apart from a new ending. > > Too be honest, pretty well the same as the 1991 tour. those dolts at the BBC went over to something else before the end. infact it couldn't have been transmitted live as such, judging by the tracks listed above, it must have been edited and transmitted a hour or two later. Kraftwerk started to play at approx 10.20pm GMT, not 1.00am GMT as somebody else who taped it off the radio mentioned. those who heard the radio broadcast and felt smug about saving 35 quid will be disapointed: kraftwerk played twleve songs last night including one new one. here's the set list, (maybe one or two in worng order, i was too busy dancing to take notes ;-) 1. numbers 2. computerworld 3. homecomputer 4. the man machine (new version) 5. tour de france [spoken interlude - vocoded anti-nuclear diatribe - scarry stuff!] 6. radioactivity (new very aggressive version) 7. autobahn (less like the mix more like the original version) 8. trans europe express first encore: 9. pocket calculator (+ dentaku!) second encore: 10. the robots third encore: 11. [new track] 12. musique non stop the versions where quite different from the mix tour. the bass lines and kick drum where well to the fore - much more so than ever before. also many of the drum patterns where more up to date. the fills in pocket calculator where little breakbeats instead of the usual bleeps and pings, Florian has now lost all his hair which makes the group look twice as aged as before but man, did he throw some shapes during PC - the full jimi hendrix play-it-with-your-teeth business. wonderful! the new stage uniforms (especially the wireframe UV reflective 'skeleton' suits worn for the new song) are superb. the amount of work put into the new set leads me to suspect that this is *not* the last we've seen of KW live. oh no... on this occasion the stage layout was in a straight line - that is directly facing the audience - a lot more confrontational than the traditional semi-circle / L bend set up, more in keeping with their new agressive sound. the new album will be fantastic! now off to bed! Jon Alsbury 'by pressing down a special key it plays a little melody' # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) The hip-hop revolution continues #2 Date: 26 May 1997 23:52:26 +0100 On 26-Maj-97 A.D., LM carved the following runes about "Re: (kw) The hip-hop revolution continues #2": >Adam Schefflan wrote: >> Misspellings are ON PURPOSE!!!! > Sure... Whatever you say... Now they even call it a language, don't >they? ;-) What happened with that proposition I heard of about making this errh... "language" official and to be taught in US schools? Ah well, only in America... >> Yes, there is cerebral hip-hop. People trying to teach instead of >> spewing swear-laden filth. > That seems to be the exception rather than the rule. Cerebral? More like frontolobotomized hip-hop. >;^P [...] >> >>> > You're defaming the "last voice of Black people" (--KRS-One). If that's their last voice, then God help them (or Farrakhan ;) sp?)! >> Who? <<< >> It's obvious to me that you know nothing about the most imprtant music >> revolution ever by your ignorance of KRS-One, > Now you're stepping behind your limits. I seriously respect your >right to love whatever kind of music that YOU may like. But you DO NOT >have the right to tell me that I have to accept it. You may even say >that the music that I listen to is crap, but NEVER try to enforce your >musical tastes on me. It may be the most important thing in the world >for YOU, but for me it's just crap. I accept your point of view; why >can't you accep mine? [...] >> Obviously, you mean "rap"--a term invented by the media that only [...] > See, now you know something that I agree and I would even add that >anything created by the media usually is crap. Hear, hear! >> Your pop-culture-influenced ignorance shows me that you take the >> word of know-nothing pundits rather than find and appreciate what >> makes hip-hop music what it is. Peace. > My opinions on anything are based on what I see with my own eyes >and what I listen with my own ear. [...] Of course, what else? Well, mista oppressa Meyer. ;) A basic lesson in political correctness here innit? * You may NOT dislike a "musical" genre, no matter why, as long as the major part of that genre's fans/musicians come from an ethnic "minority". * Above all, you may not SAY that you dislike that genre. * If you would happen to express your thoughts after all, then anyone gets the right (and sometimes the duty) to use any namecalling and ideological labelling that he/she likes against you. * As you now would have become a persona non grata, any arguments you might come to use in a future "debate" will be discarded as fiendish attacks against the ethnical minority, instead of explanations to why you dislike the kind of music in question - as if you in any way were obliged to do that in the first place... Besides, what the heck does a discussion concerning music that "comes from the griots [?? groins?] of Africa" do on a Kraftwerk mailinglist?? I mean, Kraftwerk was founded partially on a revolt against the massive domination of American and American-influenced commercial popular music, which in turn mostly originated from African culture. Advertise all your recordings from TG instead :) Cleaning up my HD to make room for all the funny flames I'll get, -- E m a n u e l M a i r _____________________________________ mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQGlFRCEhNzAbKEI=?= Subject: (kw) HALLO,EVERYONE!! Date: 27 May 1997 20:42:00 +0900 Hallo! This is my first time to write You. I am writing this message in Tokyo,now. I have been a KRAFTWERK fan for a long long time. (about 17years.....) I love ELEKTRIC MUSIC and YAMO,too. I want to talk with You about them. Please tell me about your impressions of Tribal Gathering!! #---Sorry,I don't write English well. *** Madame Curie xxx *** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Rumour or fact? Date: 27 May 1997 12:41:14 +0200 (DFT) > One new (?) Song. Sounds like remixed old Electric-Cafe Masters - new > updated. No Vocals, but funny performanced. Released as Promo- 12inch Vinyl. > (Try to hunt one...) Titeled: "Remake" (?) Is this a rumour or a fact? If it's a fact, could you please tell us the catalogue number and / or the matrix number of that release? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard.Poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk Subject: (kw) My verdict Date: 27 May 1997 09:40:18 Thank god I went to Trance Europe at 21.15. It was already packed then. We managed to get a central postion quite near the front and by the time the intro started you just couldn't move. Like Neil Lawrence, I saw them in '81 and '91 and I too spent the first part of the show thinking this is great - but I've seen it all before. Radioactivity was superb and I loved the fact that the, mainly young, crowd were really enthusiastic about the show. I thought the new track (we don't know it's title as there was no video for this one) was great and there was a huge cheer at one stage when the bass-line kicked in again. And those neon suits - WOW!! I'm glad I paid to see them again, they are past their best, but if this new track is representative of what is to come then maybe a new album will be worth the wait. Ralf and Florian have both aged a lot since '91, though it was great seeing Florian do the "air-guitar" to Pocket Calculator. I'm surprised no-one mentioned the merchandise, I bought two superb tops at only ?16 each!! A slightly revised set list for the more pedantic amongst you is: Numbers Computer World Home Computer/It's more fun to compute The Man Machine Tour de France Autobahn Radioactivity Trans Europe Express Pocket Calculator/Dentaku (Yes Ralf sung in Japanese) The Robots/Robotronik NEW ONE Music non stop. One last observation, this was even less "live" than in '91, no manual drumming at all, but that hardware looked even more impressive than ever. No V formation this time, they were in a line directly facing the crowd, from the left Ralf, Henning, Fritz and then the old bald guy! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "F.J.Meijer@stud.frw.ruu.nl" Date: 27 May 1997 13:55:26 +0200 Hai out there! Still there is confusion about whether or not Kraftwerk played a new song on TG. They DID actually. I think the song was especially adapted for the TG: it did not sound as the normal Kraftwerk stuff. It was very promising and FRESH. The great thing is that they had put on a new outfit when they played the new song. A fantastic outfit, dark with yellow fluorescent stripes all over their body. Great were the fluorescent sunglasses they had put on. It was typical Kraftwerk: semi-serious but at the same time very, very funny indeed. I really had to laugh when I saw them. After the concert I saw Florian backstage on a distance cycling on a little fluorescent bike... I do not know what the purpose of that was. I think the concert was great. Okay, 80% was not knew, but the played the Man Machine for the second time in the nineties (correct me if I am wrong), they had some new images, Radioactivity had a new intro and the new song and outfit were great. They did not disappoint me at all. This was not the place to do something completely new. There were a lot of people there who had never seen Kraftwerk before, and their show is still GREAT. I enjoyed John Talbert (?) enjoying the concert, a big fan of Kwerk since 1978, which especially flew over from the States to see Kraftwerk. I have never seen anybody so excited, thrilled and emotional before a concert in my life. What did you think of the concert, Talbert (I am notr sure of your first name)? Now of course, if they will give another concert or tour, they should do something more new. If they don't, then I would be a bit disappointed too. Well, i am interested in other reactions to the concert, and whether anybody has read any articles and comments on the concert. I guess they were the best act of the festival, but is that because I am a fan of Kraftwerk? Frank # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard.Poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk Subject: (kw) Lost............. Date: 27 May 1997 09:09:01 ............one full set of human head hair. Last confirmed sighting, July 1991, Brixton Academy, London. If found please return to: F. Schneider-Esleben, Kling- Klang, Dusseldorf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: christopher zimmerman Subject: (kw) KRAFTWERK on AMP!! FRIDAY/SATURDAY!! Date: 27 May 1997 05:38:04 -0700 (PDT) > Yes, the gods finally arrived on AMP. For those of you not familiar w/the > thing, this Saturdays show (which was last night) will be re-broadcast next > Friday night at 1:00 am Central time. Which is 0200 EDT. And it airs at 0200 PDT if you're on the left coast. Mountain time zone, Alaska, Hawaii, I dunno. ;-) These times, Friday night, are also known as Saturday morning to some. Hell, just tape the whole hour, it's a pretty good show. Especially for MTV. > So if you missed taping "The Robots" you got a chance next Friday. > > Am I the only one who noticed some messed up back beats in the distant > background? I think someone bled audio signals into KW from some other track. That was a bit of "Voodoo Ray," the next video. I think they were trying to "mix" for lack of a better word. It worked fabulously when they spliced together the first 20 minutes of videos, but really sounded out of place during the Kraftwerk video. But hell, I'm just glad they aired it at all! Completely unrelated question, but someone here MIGHT be able to answer: Which record store is that in the DJ Shadow video? That *is* Sacramento, is it not? Christopher Robin Zimmerman in the Electric Cafe # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard.Poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk Subject: (kw) Sender: owner-kraftwerk@xmission.com Date: 28 May 1997 08:21:30 ............one full set of human head hair. Last confirmed sighting, July 1991, Brixton Academy, London. If found please return to: F. Schneider-Esleben, Kling- Klang, Dusseldorf. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard.Poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk Subject: (kw) Sender: owner-kraftwerk@xmission.com Date: 28 May 1997 08:21:39 Thank god I went to Trance Europe at 21.15. It was already packed then. We managed to get a central postion quite near the front and by the time the intro started you just couldn't move. Like Neil Lawrence, I saw them in '81 and '91 and I too spent the first part of the show thinking this is great - but I've seen it all before. Radioactivity was superb and I loved the fact that the, mainly young, crowd were really enthusiastic about the show. I thought the new track (we don't know it's title as there was no video for this one) was great and there was a huge cheer at one stage when the bass-line kicked in again. And those neon suits - WOW!! I'm glad I paid to see them again, they are past their best, but if this new track is representative of what is to come then maybe a new album will be worth the wait. Ralf and Florian have both aged a lot since '91, though it was great seeing Florian do the "air-guitar" to Pocket Calculator. I'm surprised no-one mentioned the merchandise, I bought two superb tops at only ?16 each!! A slightly revised set list for the more pedantic amongst you is: Numbers Computer World Home Computer/It's more fun to compute The Man Machine Tour de France Autobahn Radioactivity Trans Europe Express Pocket Calculator/Dentaku (Yes Ralf sung in Japanese) The Robots/Robotronik NEW ONE Music non stop. One last observation, this was even less "live" than in '91, no manual drumming at all, but that hardware looked even more impressive than ever. No V formation this time, they were in a line directly facing the crowd, from the left Ralf, Henning, Fritz and then the old bald guy! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Pilgrim Subject: (kw) Live Computerworld/Numbers Date: 27 May 1997 22:37:34 -0700 In listening to the Real Audio feed... I think that Kraftwerk could have easily blended Tour de France in with Computerworld and Numbers Live. Numbers had a weird new voice that sounded like someone from the middle east but spoken very fast. As well a few glitches were heard...ie improperly triggered sounds usually at the begining of a song. Ralph seemed to sing well...especially the Dentuka part. I would have liked the Willy Orbit version of Radioakitivity too.... to bad about the last half of the show. What about the two "helpers" did they "help" much? Philip -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Skylink3@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) The hip-hop revolution continues #2 Date: 28 May 1997 09:15:25 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-05-28 02:36:26 EDT, you write: << > one of the most respected MCs ever. KRS-One is one of the most > socially and politically astute artists around today, and as "the > teacher," uses hip-hop as a means for social change. How come I never heard of him outside the limited span of crap music? >> A few notes on this debate. 1. Krs-one is a genius. that is simple fact. 2. Good rap/hip is heavily outnumbered by sexist/hateful rap/hip hop. 3. Hip hop may be the most important social movement in ones life, but not mine. 4. No one should disregard a whole genre of music. How can anyone hate all rap? That is like saying I hate electronic music. and since this is a kraftwerk list, uh, hmmm, Theyre like cool and stuff. florian rules. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Kess Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk on TG Date: 28 May 1997 09:47:48 -0400 Hy to all! Question: Besides Ralf and Florian on stage (ok, Ralf was the one with = the micro on the most left position), who were the other two on stage? I = just could not figure out. (Klaus, can you help?) I just don't get, why (almost) everbody is so disappointed about the = concert. I saw them for the second time and I really had my kicks on that= = one. The set was great, I agree, that it had the sound of the MIX, but = that's what time and modern studio equipment makes out of these (still) = great songs. = I think by expecting a live concert show, there must be disappointment, = cause this show did not fit into the normal pop music genre, were every = concert tour features new songs, great stage performance and even bigger = effects and interaction with the audience. (Remember they personally did = not say hello and there was no goodbye too) But by understanding Kraftwerk as concept art and a art performance = group, that creates its artform in terms of music and visuals, there is = no problem for me to keep watching and listening to them doing the same = stuff again and again. I am not shure, why they played that new song. It did not seem finished = to me. = And beside the great effect they did with their dresses (they looked like= = wire frame dolls; they're costumes were made of partly reflecting = material, that gave this impression), there was no visual explanation for= = that song. Ok, so that were my two cents on that, hope you agree with me, if not, = that disagree... regards Oliver # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Roland Metzger Subject: (kw) TG-The day after...Kraftwerk talk (to me)! Date: 27 May 1997 19:45:46 -0400 A lot of people have reported on the Kraftwerk gig on Saturday in Luton. Here=92s a story of Kraftwerk on the next day. So sit comfortably and li= sten to what I experienced.... I came back to my Hotel (Harpenden House Hotel) at ca. 7am in the morning= from TG. Checked out at 12 to catch the Thames link train from Harpenden station to London central. So I was walking with my luggage through Harpenden town, enjoying the warm, sunny weather and listened to my excellent mini-disc bootleg of the concert. Shortly before arriving at th= e train station I began to notice 6 people walking in front of me, of which= one had a remarkable similarity to ....Florian Schneider!!!!! I thought t= o myself... Hey, Roland this can=92t be Kraftwerk walking casually in front= of you, you must be dizzy from yesterday. So I looked again...and saw Ralf Hutter too!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There were the other two Kraftwerk members and two other guys as well. Probably they even stayed at the same Hotel, why should they walk around in Harpenden like this. So what was I supposed to= do now, run to them and bugger them with questions we all want to have answered, ask for autographs..or what? I decided to follow them calmly an= d try to catch some conversation (unsuccesful). At Harpenden station they entered the ticketing hall and Ralf queued (!!!!) to buy tickets for the group. I pretended to study the timetable which was attached to the wall when Florian discovered the yellow traffic cones which were stacked up below that timetable. He walked over, took one in his hands, waived it an= d started laughing and the other guy of the group took photos!!! After he p= ut those down again, I decided to say something...(gulp) I told Florian (in german, of course) that I just wanted to tell him that I found yesterdays= performance superb and that I just came especially to see Kraftwerk play.= He stared at me, started smiling and said =93Dankeschoen=94 and also said= that they are now going to London. I also said that I=92ll be going to London = and that one has to take advantage once we are around here. The group then followed him out of the building and started walking up the stairs to the= departure track when Florian suddendly turned around and asked me (ME!!!!!....I=92m not worthy!!!!!!!!) if they were walking in the right direction. I answered =93Yes, go to Track 3=94. On the platform I watched= them joke with each other and they definitely were all enjoying themselves. On= the train I was of course in the same car but not close to them, but with= a good view of Ralf who was wearing sunglasses, a brown summer-hat, green jacket, white trousers, brown shoes, blue socks (erm...yes I had quiet so= me time to study...), he even played Air-keyboard during their discussions a= nd Florian gave him a few pages of paper to read which were studied thorough= ly (Maybe printouts of the Kraftwerk-mailing-list, could be). Nobody except = me noticed who these nice deutsche gentlemen were, even though there were quiet a few ravers from yesterday on the train. When the train arrived at= the final station I lost sight as they walked in a different direction...= =2E = So that was it, I talked to Kraftwerk..... How did I deserve all this luc= k, first seeing them play live and now as a bonus THIS. Am I worthy??? After this I thought about what I could have made differently... Should I= have said nothing to them and just listened to their conversations or should I have made a full frontal assault and asked important questions like... When does your new album come out? What about more live dates? Would you like to hear my bootleg of you concert (Heheheh, what about tha= t one!!)?Can you give me a copy of the new promo box set? But is difficult = to talk to GOD, isn=92t it? They seemed in a very good mood, I cannot imagi= ne he would have said to a nice person like me =93Wir geben keine Antwort!=94= (We do not give answers). So I decided for myself that I must be satisfied with what I got (which is already more anybody can ask for). What would you have done in my situation, fellow Kraftwerkians? Should I have told them abouth my bootleg, or do you think Florian and Ralf would have busted my ass (Sorry for the expression...)??? Should I have them bothered with my questions? Let=92s discuss! Roland # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "neil lawrence" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk cycling shirts Date: 28 May 1997 06:58:36 +0100 I thought it was a cute idea to have cycling shirts, given KW's fascination with it, but to be perfectly honest I wouldn't be caught dead in one of those bright yellow things. On a separate note, when did the Autobahn logo get stretched like that? Lawrence [NOTICE: This message was delayed on its way to the list because it contained excess quoted text, which has been automatically removed. To prevent this from happening to your messages, be sure to include as little text as possible from the message you are responding to.] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fermin Goiriz" Subject: RE: (kw) TG-The day after...Kraftwerk talk (to me)! Date: 28 May 1997 18:32:14 +0200 Roland Metzger wrote: > But is difficult to talk to GOD, isn’t it? Hm, don't you think you're exaggerating a little bit? I guess you should have tried to talk to them a little more. Ask them for the new album (?), or whatever. Who knows, maybe they felt kind that day... :-) See ya Fermín Goiriz j021850503@abonados.cplus.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: josefgabler@magnet.at (Josef Gabler) Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk cycling shirts Date: 28 May 1997 16:53:46 GMT I was wondering what others who went to Tribal Gathering thought of the KW merchendise? Disapointment or delight? I thought it was great that they had cycling shirts done instead of T-shirts. My personal favourite is the blue Autobahn, though the flouresent Radioactivity is tasty as well. The shirts are very stylish and an excellent fit too! Jon Alsbury The Bike-Shirts are absolutely the best idea how to merchandise Kraftwerk and their obsessions. I bought my blue one 1993 in Linz at the Ars Electronica-Gig. At the Tribal gettering i bought enough of them for the next 5 years. :-) >The shirts are very stylish and an excellent fit too!< Right! Josef # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) The Times on Kraftwerk Date: 28 May 1997 19:25:14 +0200 (DFT) Todays edition of The Times contains a review of the Tribal Gathering festival: http://www.the-times.co.uk/news/pages/tim/97/05/28/timartpop01004.html?1781437 Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Luca Dassi Subject: (kw) Re: TG-The day after...Kraftwerk talk (to me)! Date: 28 May 1997 19:40:49 +0100 I too had the opportunity to talk to R&F ... and I didn't miss it! Maybe as an Italian I am a little bit cheekier, who knows? I already told my story to listmembers several months ago...six years have passed by, but the questions remain the same...their forthcoming new album...their interests...I also managed to obtain an autograph! I didn't have the heart to pose The Ultimate Question To God Himself: "Er, dear KW, what *exactly* do you do all day?" If Kraftwerk were God, the universe would be remixed every 10 years or so. Maybe they think of their songs as beautiful and trustworthy (albeit a little old) machines that, after a long use, need some re-tuning and a few new parts to continue their work. Peace, *Luca* # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daniel Nilsson Subject: (kw) tribal Date: 28 May 1997 20:15:16 +0100 Hi, I'm still kind of missing a in-depth review of the Tribal Gathering KW concert. Sure, there have been some short reviews, anyone working on a real detailed one? I want all the itty-bitty details of _everything_ ! Another thing, anyone know if Kraftwerk gave any interviews during their England-trip? /Daniel # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: Re: (kw) How do they get their money to live? Date: 28 May 1997 17:41:50 +0000 Statik was saying: >Hi! Just wondering, perhaps someone can help me out. If KW releases an LP >every seven years, then they earn some money. But not enough to live on for >seven years. Does any of you know what KW (or R & F) do to get their money? >To they build keyboards? Are they millionaires from birth? What? How? This is the question that's on many people's lips ;) Well, I would imagine that they aren't that hard up - I'd say they have plenty of money in the kitty. Florian is certainly from a fairly affluent background. Keyboards ? I think they may have done a few presets for one of the German synthesizer manufacturers, but I'm not sure. -- /=======================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | | Influence and inspiration from : | | Jarre Vangelis Tomita Carlos Erasure Pinhas TangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.co.uk/customers/Alliance)| \=======================================================================/ My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right. -- Ashleigh Brilliant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Calder <101460.571@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) Latest UK media activity Date: 28 May 1997 14:37:23 EDT Today's copy of 'The Times' newspaper (Wednesday 28.5.97) contains a review of the 'Tribal Gathering' event in section 2. The latest issues of both 'Melody Maker' and 'NME' also contain reviews - the NME one has an excellent colour picture of Kraftwerk performing 'The Man Machine' (as well as a few smaller ones too) - both editions are issues dated 31 May 1997. Yesterday (Tuesday 27 May), Radio 5Live broadcast a short piece during the 'Nationwide' programme about Kraftwerk fans at the 'Tribal Gathering' event - along the lines of 'Kraft Berks - fans who are mad on the Daleks from Duesseldorf'. The piece, about 5/6 minutes or so in duration, contained interviews with fans who attended the 'Tribal Gathering' event as well as a short dialogue from Wolfgang Fluer. Ian Calder # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Barth" Subject: Re: (kw) TG-The day after...Kraftwerk talk (to me)! Date: 28 May 1997 21:05:44 +0200 Roland, If it is true, which I don't doubt, there is one thing you could do: Share your MD copy of at least the new KW song (and the smashing man machine) with us who were not even able to come to Luton. We would appreciate that very much. If you have a homepage, you could put it there as .wav, ..au, .ra or even as .mpg file. If you don't have homepage space, you could think of having it mirrored on several sites, so it is available to all. I think some of us are willing to host it (Infobahn?). By the way, you could have asked them if they are trying to break the record of being the music group with the longest interval between two albums with new material. 11 years is quite a time! Regards, Erik Barth ---------- A lot of people have reported on the Kraftwerk gig on Saturday in Luton. Here=92s a story of Kraftwerk on the next day. So sit comfortably and li= sten to what I experienced.... I came back to my Hotel (Harpenden House Hotel) at ca. 7am in the morning from TG. Checked out at 12 to catch the Thames link train from Harpenden station to London central. So I was walking with my luggage through Harpenden town, enjoying the warm, sunny weather and listened to my excellent mini-disc bootleg of the concert. Shortly before arriving at th= e train station I began to notice 6 people walking in front of me, of which one had a remarkable similarity to .... >>>stuff deleted<<< What would you have done in my situation, fellow Kraftwerkians? Should I have told them abouth my bootleg, or do you think Florian and Ralf would have busted my ass (Sorry for the expression...)??? Should I have them bothered with my questions? Let=92s discuss! Roland # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ---------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: Re: (kw) How do they get their money to live? Date: 28 May 1997 19:34:05 +0000 Statik was saying: >Hi! Just wondering, perhaps someone can help me out. If KW releases an LP >every seven years, then they earn some money. But not enough to live on for >seven years. Does any of you know what KW (or R & F) do to get their money? >To they build keyboards? Are they millionaires from birth? What? How? This is the question that's on many people's lips ;) Well, I would imagine that they aren't that hard up - I'd say they have plenty of money in the kitty. Florian is certainly from a fairly affluent background. Keyboards ? I think they may have done a few presets for one of the German synthesizer manufacturers, but I'm not sure. -- /=======================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | | Influence and inspiration from : | | Jarre Vangelis Tomita Carlos Erasure Pinhas TangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.co.uk/customers/Alliance)| \=======================================================================/ My opinions may have changed, but not the fact that I am right. -- Ashleigh Brilliant # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Talbert Subject: (kw) First Kraftwerk live experience! Date: 28 May 1997 15:33:26 -0700 I've just returned to the US from London and I can't express how incredible Kraftwerk were at the TG! This was my first time experiencing them live and it was quite worth the air travel to Europe, the hotel costs, the subway ticket, the train fare, the TG fee, and the cold temperatures after midnight (was it below freezing or what?) I tell ya, it was no less than an absolutely astonishing event! It was a true phenomenon! Sure, I've seen Kraftwerk live on various bootleg videos, but nothing compares to being right THERE! From the robotik voice intro to the MNS outro, I was literally in tears! You lucky chaps who've seen KW live before have no idea what its like to wait 18 years for this; Sometimes, I get the feeling that a few actually take it for granted. :\ Hearing Man-Machine LIVE was a dream come true - incredible! The rhythm was so intense and deliberate. Did anybody get a good recording of this song as it appears it wasn't broadcast by the BBC And then (shivers) the NEW track - blew my sock off; No more softie "Neon Lights" type stuff here! Still can't get the blasted bass line out of my head! One guy desparagingly described the new track as "like remixed old Electric-Cafe Masters." I have quite a difference of opinion here. I have an extensive music background and I listened with complete scrutiny and heard nothing that I would consider recanted old material (of course there was that 'techno/robotnik/robotronik' bass drum pattern, but that's OK) In general, the song was totally new and fresh. All in all, the whole experience was first rate. I got a few pictures and plan to have them developed today - I hope the wireframe suits photographed OK. Perhaps, once obtaining a scanner, I can post them to my web page (we'll see on this one). I must also add that the people (I'm afraid to mention names as I can't recall them all due all the excitement) I met at the concert and elsewhere in London were incredibly kind and friendly. I was made to feel right at home. Thanks, thanks, thanks! And a special thank you to Cathy Carr (if she ever reads this) who showed my better half and me how to get around London via the "Tube" and British Rail. She has quite a kind and winning personality in addition to giving me some rare KW articles - not to mention she showed us where to get all-you-can-eat chinese food for only 4 pounds per person! (somewhere in the Piccadilly Circus area, I believe) Take care all. -John Talbert jtalbert@ameritech.net P.S. Go to the Resonance Underground Musik Lab http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/mainpage.htm and and grab some free KW midi files to make up for my high bandwidth. I'l be adding more every week or so. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: (kw) BBC Broadcast Slooooooooow!! Date: 28 May 1997 15:52:13 -0400 Hi Kwerkaholics, Has anybody present at TG had time to study the BBC broadcast of the set?= ? The first thing I noticed was the speed of Numbers / computer World in comparison to what I remebered from the night. this was confirmed by several of the people with me. It was incredibly sloooooow. I could only assume one of two options : Either my tape deck has a fault, or the BBC broadcast had a fault. Ralf's voice during computer World further enforces my suspicion, as it i= s very low pitch and booming. The rest of the broadcast seemed fine. Anyone else??? Jules P.S. Somebody get the new track up to the net for everybody, please. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: (kw) Tribal TV WILL broadcast Video!!! Date: 28 May 1997 16:11:04 -0400 The Tribal TV people are currently getting over 65 hours of footage from the TG. = Hope this will include KW!!!! http://193.192.209.111/index2.html Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MikeLove1@aol.com Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Sample CD Date: 28 May 1997 16:18:44 -0400 (EDT) What is the cat. number and who is the manufacturer of the Kraftwerk -ish sample cd? Where can I get one? ML # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: Re :(kw) First Kraftwerk live experience! Date: 28 May 1997 16:20:40 -0400 > the TG fee, and the cold temperatures after midnight (was it >below freezing or what?) = Glad you enjoyed it John. I can assure you that NONE of the people I know= take it for granted. As in my previous post, I said the it may be one of the last times we may= see them, although I am less convinced after hearing the new track !!! Yes, it was very cold on the night. when I returned to my car, there was frost on the screen!! and we'd been standing outside for over 12 hours!!!= It's not indicative of British weather though, Monday night was very warm= here. Luck of the draw I spose. PS. I had written in previous posts that I thought the new track had a so= rt of feel of Nitzer Ebb's 'Join in the Chant' played backwards at 140bpm. PPS. the chinese food you bought was probably from Gerrard Street in London's Chinatown, a stone's throw from picadilly circus. Eat there regularly myself !!! Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: (kw) Leaving briefly Date: 28 May 1997 19:33:58 +0000 Tomorrow I'm going to Holland, and obviously won't be at home to answer list or other emails. If you have any urgent emails, or want to contact me in Holland for any other reason, mail to my other address at brendan@heading.demon.co.uk - I'm arranging to get it collected from there in Holland. See y'all when I get back on Tuesday 2nd. -- /=======================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | | Influence and inspiration from : | | Jarre Vangelis Tomita Carlos Erasure Pinhas TangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.co.uk/customers/Alliance)| \=======================================================================/ Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway. -- Andrew Tannenbaum # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Julian Seifert Subject: Re : (kw) Kraftwerk Sample CD Date: 28 May 1997 17:15:10 -0400 >What is the cat. number and who is the manufacturer of the >Kraftwerk -ish sample cd? Where can I get one? It's called 'Robots and Computers' and contains loads of vocoder samples,= some VERY accurate reproduction sounds and cost =A360-00 Try :- www.timespace.com they are the distributer Jules # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Conny_Fornb=E4ck?= Subject: (kw) Q: Money? A: Patent! Date: 28 May 1997 23:48:51 +0200 Does any of you know what KW (or R & F) do to get their money? >To they build keyboards?=20 Well, as we all know, they have been involved in the development of some = electronic gear (was it D=F6pfer?). In 1990 I found a sign of Florian trying to earn some extra money. By = then I worked at the Swedish Patent Office and accidentily found an = application for a patent by Schneider. Schneider has invented a "System = for and method of synthesizing singing in real time" together with (for = me unknown) co-inventors Gert Ott and Gert Jalass.=20 Appearantly the invention is a way of connecting a keyboard to a Votrax = speech synth, so that it is possible to make the Votrax "sing". I assume = that this invention is an offspring-effect from the work with the "The = Mix"-album. For instance it is probably the result of this invention we = can hear in the nice "robot-barbershop" part of "Autobahn". I do not know if they ever got the patent granted. I stopped working at = that office a few years ago. (Patent applications is a business only for = those who are *very* patient). So I don't know if this adds to the = pensions of Schneider. Anyhow, I like the idea that you can find KW-memorabilia at the patent = office. It suits their "music-researchers-image" perfectly. ;-) /Conny Ps. Sorry Klaus, I had to take the creds for this one. ;-) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: (kw) BBC Tape Date: 28 May 1997 17:59:56 -0400 (EDT) Isn't anyone willing to get me a cassette copy of the BBC TG Kraftwerk set? I am willing to trade for it -- please help out this HUGE USA Kraftwerk fan. Tom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: Re :(kw) First Kraftwerk live experience! Date: 29 May 1997 02:56:05 +0100 On 28-Maj-97 A.D., Julian Seifert carved the following runes about "Re :(kw) First Kraftwerk live experience!": >PS. I had written in previous posts that I thought the new track had a >sort >of feel of Nitzer Ebb's 'Join in the Chant' played backwards at 140bpm. "Snug, snug, snug! Erif, erif, erif! Tnahc eht ni nioj!" All at 140 BPM - well that's certainly innovative! :) -- E m a n u e l M a i r _____________________________________ mair@medstud.gu.se Procul, o procul este, profani! http://medstud.gu.se/~mair * t e a m A M I G A * .-. .- -.. .. --- -....- .- -.- - .. ...- .. - .-.- - ...-.- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DADI@ZAMIR-ZG.ZTN.APC.ORG (Andor Fabian) Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk Digest V3 #75 Date: 29 May 1997 00:55:00 +0100 Dear kraftwerkians May I ask someone to resend me KW Digests #72-74, please? They never arrived to me... :-( Actually, sometimes (from time to time) I have quite a big gaps in receiving KW Digests... Anybody knows what are the reasons??? TNX. D@di ;-) P.S. Does anybody shares my opinion that on "Live in Verona" KW sometimes sounds... errr... not in beat & tune? P.P.S. It would be cool to see the whole team riding on Giro or Tour in KW jerseys :-)))))) P.P.P.S. In the latest issue (#91) of "Arkzin" - Croatian magazine for politics and culture of civil society, front page and the centerfold is dedicated to KW, TG etc, etc... Some known photos, some KW digest excerpts, some weird comments, an old 1975 (R&F) & 1981 (R) interview excerpts... ************************************************************* ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: Re: (kw) TG-The day after...Kraftwerk talk (to me)! Date: 29 May 1997 02:06:54 EDT I would have DIED! Lawd! I've seen many MCs on the streets of NY, the last was Everlast of House of Pain, but I've never had the nerve to talk to them. The'd probably get flustered anyway, since they probably want their anonymity. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "neil lawrence" Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk on TG Date: 29 May 1997 07:26:03 +0100 ---------- >I just don't get, why (almost) everbody is so disappointed about the >concert. I saw them for the second time and I really had my kicks on that >one. The set was great, I agree, that it had the sound of the MIX, but >that's what time and modern studio equipment makes out of these (still) >great songs. That's not an acceptable excuse. Surely, technology should allow the performer to improvise or expand on well established songs. It didn't stop them on previous tours, and doesn't stop people like Orbital. >I think by expecting a live concert show, there must be disappointment, >cause this show did not fit into the normal pop music genre, were every >concert tour features new songs, great stage performance and even bigger >effects and interaction with the audience. (Remember they personally did >not say hello and there was no goodbye too) I see your point, but that is why they were there. However, I would not go to see Kraftwerk and expect then to jump around on stage with wild explosions in the background - that is not where my disappointment lies . I have listened to many bootlegs of past performances, and some have been absolutely breathtaking, and that's why I maintain that the TG performance was less than they are capable of. >But by understanding Kraftwerk as concept art and a art performance >group, that creates its artform in terms of music and visuals, there is >no problem for me to keep watching and listening to them doing the same >stuff again and again. Shouldn't any artist or performer should be looking to develop and progress, not stagnate? You can dress it up any way you wish, but the truth is they've done virtually nothing for years. I want to hear the NEW Kraftwerk rather than re-live the past. Lawrence # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: Re: (kw) TG-The day after...Kraftwerk talk (to me)! Date: 29 May 1997 10:21:49 +0200 Fermin Goiriz wrote: > Hm, don't you think you're exaggerating a little bit? I guess you should > have tried to talk to them a little more. Ask them for the new album (?), I would ask him something different, like what kind of tea do you fancy, do you read comics, and so on. -- 'We are very gentle with our machines. Sometimes they respond very friendly.' Ralf Hutter, Kraftwerk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: Re: (kw) How do they get their money to live? Date: 29 May 1997 10:34:16 +0200 Brendan Heading wrote: > > Statik was saying: > >Hi! Just wondering, perhaps someone can help me out. If KW releases an LP > >every seven years, then they earn some money. But not enough to live on for > >seven years. Does any of you know what KW (or R & F) do to get their money? > >To they build keyboards? Are they millionaires from birth? What? How? > > This is the question that's on many people's lips ;) Well, I would imagine > that they aren't that hard up - I'd say they have plenty of money in the > kitty. Florian is certainly from a fairly affluent background. Keyboards ? I > think they may have done a few presets for one of the German synthesizer > manufacturers, but I'm not sure. I'm not sure about this but I think there have been a few mails on this list that claims that Florian Schneider is a professor on some swiss university and that Kraftwerk do music for films and stuff. I mean, who wouldn't be fed up with Kraftwerk after thirty years in the band. You really can't expect that two guys do nothing else but making music with there band. Maybe they do part time consulting jobs for Doepfer and others, who knows. /Andreas -- 'We are very gentle with our machines. Sometimes they respond very friendly.' Ralf Hutter, Kraftwerk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Fw: Missing some posts Date: 29 May 1997 01:10:25 -0700 TEST! TEST! TEST! Is it WERKing now?? -(2nd attempt to post)- What's = wrong with the Mail List?? HELP, me ROBOTS, Help, Help me, ROBOTS....!! I was checking the Mail List Archives and found quite a few messages = these past coupla days which I never received in my Email. There were = some wunderbar Konzert reports from: Richard Poolton, Dave Hiscock, Mark = Humphrey, Jules Seifert and John Alsbury, which I regretably missed. I = beg of you gentlemen to forward your latest postings to me from your = send boxes. Vielen Dank! -(I can not print them out from the archives, = and it's difficult to read the Archives because the text wont fit on the = screen and it's a pain in the @$$ to scroll across from left to right to = read each line.... I can't get it to re-wrap.)- In fact, I'm missing a = LOT of messages, and some of my recent posts have been delayed or not = received at all. Other people have said they're having the same problem. = Was ist los?? ROBOT@humboldt1.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -(Foto & Profile)- http://www.scifi.com -(I live in The DOMINION Lounge. Same Foto, = different Text.)- =3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3DKRAFTWERK=3D ---------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Henderson" Subject: (kw) TG CD? Date: 28 May 1997 14:23:12 -0600 Before the event, someone mentioned something about bits of TG showing up on one or more CDs (okay, maybe I was HOPING someone had mentioned it, but I think this time there was some reality there). Is this true? Have past TG performances been released? I know KW hasn't exactly had a history of releasing live performances of any kind. However, it sounds like they were "into it" more this time than ever, with a new set, new suits, and a new song. I'm really enjoying the RA file of the event, in all of its crap sound quality. I'd LOVE to hear a soundboard-recorded CD of this show! To me, it's almost less disappointing to hear new versions of older songs, than a whole new set. With an entirely new set of songs there's always a huge possibility that you won't like the new sound. I guess this fear is what has driven KW's seclusion for so long. Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Anthony Pearson Subject: (kw) Enlightened One Date: 29 May 1997 10:06:44 +0100 I'd never seen Kraftwerk before last Saturday (being a spritely 24 yrs of age). I new they were pioneers of synth-pop but that was about it. I used to play in a band that did a cover of The Model but never really got it. I wasn't sure what to expect when I was waiting for them to go on. All I can say afterwards is that they COMPLETELY blew my mind and the friends I was with. I don't think I've seen such an awesome use of visuals and sound. The whole thing was simply an experience. I appreciate now that for a lot of you on the list the material wasn't that new, but as a newcomer just seeing Kraftwerk alone made the £35 and £30 bus fare I paid to go to TG worth while. Since then I've bought Computer World and RadioActivity (the title track was really cool and creepy at TG, my favourite I think) on CD. I just wish I'd got into them earlier. Please, Please, Please, has anyone recorded what they broadcasted of the gig on Radio 1 and be willing to do me a copy? I could supply the tape and pay for the postage, etc. I'd really appreciate it. Anthony # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Fjellström Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk Sample CD Date: 29 May 1997 10:19:05 +0100 MikeLove1@aol.com wrote: >=20 > What is the cat. number and who is the manufacturer of the Kraftwerk = -ish > sample cd? Where can I get one? OK, I'll tell you all this once and for all, so I won't have to reply private messages anymore: The Kraftwerk sample CD called "Robots and computers" is available via the "Time & Space" company (www.timespace.com), costing =A359, or =A399= for the CD-Rom version. I don't know any catalogue number, but I think it's from the German company "Best service" or something like that. Good hunting! Love, Marcus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fermin Goiriz" Subject: RE: (kw) How do they get their money to live? Date: 29 May 1997 11:32:55 +0200 Andreas Elin said: > I'm not sure about this but I think there have been a few mails on this > list that claims that Florian Schneider is a professor on some swiss > university and that Kraftwerk do music for films and stuff. What?! Music for films? Anybody can explain this? See ya, Fermín Goiriz j021850503@abonados.cplus.es # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard.Poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk Subject: (kw) TG CDs Date: 29 May 1997 10:12:18 From memory I think previous tribal gatherings CDs were just compilations from bands that had appeared at TG and NOT actual recordings from the event. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard.Poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk Subject: (kw) So what's the story?? Date: 29 May 1997 10:12:24 As dear old Robot said, posted messages are not getting to the list, WHY?? I'm no typist so I spend ages pathetically tapping at my keyboard hoping to share my thoughts with you beautiful people, and nothing happens!! Most frustrating. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) Q: Money? A: Patent! Date: 29 May 1997 13:21:41 +0200 (DFT) > In 1990 I found a sign of Florian trying to earn some extra money. By then > I worked at the Swedish Patent Office and accidentily found an > application for a patent by Schneider. Schneider has invented a "System > for and method of synthesizing singing in real time" > > Ps. Sorry Klaus, I had to take the creds for this one. ;-) No problem. :-) And here comes my contribution to the patent thread: Look at http://patents.cnidr.org/access/search-bool.html, select "All" and search for "Schneider; Florian". :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Rhein-Zeitung on Kraftwerk Date: 29 May 1997 13:32:39 +0200 (DFT) There was a Kraftwerk article in the Rhein-Zeitung recently, which summed up all the current rumours about the new Kraftwerk album. The article can still be accessed via the WWW at http://rhein-zeitung.de/old/97/95/08/topnews/krautkraft.html. Abstract: EMI refused to comment the rumour that they have turned down a finished new Kraftwerk album in early 1997 due to lacking commercial potency of the new material. Wolfgang Fluer is sure that the new material will be released this autumn. He says that Huetter and Schneider evade the release of the new material for years now, because they are in a panic to lose their cult status. EMI spokesman Harald Engel is less confident. He says that the new material may not be released within the next few years. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) TG photos and reviews wanted Date: 29 May 1997 13:34:33 +0200 (DFT) There seemed to be a problem with the digest during the last few days, so I hope nobody minds that I re-post this little wants-ad. Apologies to those who received it twice. I'm looking for photos (any quality) and press reviews (worldwide) from Kraftwerk's appearance at the Tribal Gathering. I have a huge collection of Kraftwerk trade material available. For example, I could offer an audio tape with the complete Tribal Gathering K raftwerk concert in return. Of course I am also willing to pay cash, if preferred. Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Tribal Gathering Date: 29 May 1997 13:28:44 +0000 >those dolts at the BBC went over to something else before the end. "Dolt" is certainly the word (no doubt they broadcast the full sets by their own DJ's? I heard idiot cries of "Make more noise" etc from _them_!). The concert got progressively more interesting. When the concert started with 'Numbers' I was happy enough to be there (of course) but wished for a bit more imagination in the playlist. But as things went on the percussion came more to the fore, giving more of a "techno" slant than a "technopop" one, and the videos and music were synchronised very well (the use of videos back in '81 - the only other time I've seen them live - had been rather dull). The highlight was of course Kraftwerk's reappearance after an encore, dressed in their new luminous uniforms (reminded me of the film 'Tron'!), playing the new track. This new track was pure techno, not a song, and showed that Kraftwerk can stay true to their own path while still beating all newcomers to the game. This must surely herald a new album. If this track is typical, we can all stop wondering what the new album will be about, as no theme was apparent. Perhaps they'll be happy to concentrate on the music alone! >[spoken interlude - vocoded anti-nuclear diatribe - scarry stuff!] Silly stuff, in effect. The synthesised voice spoke of the dire consequences of the Sellafield 2 nuclear reactor. Surely plans for this reactor were axed years ago? >7. autobahn (less like the mix more like the original version) Had a lot of elements from 'The Mix' version though. The video for this compared old artists' impressions of the new Autobahns with scenes of a busy modern motorway, and the sounds of car crashes were added to the music. More "greening" of Kraftwerk! >9. pocket calculator (+ dentaku!) Am I alone in finding this song the dullest thing Kraftwerk has ever done? >Florian has now lost all his hair which makes the group >look twice as aged as before but man, did he throw some shapes during PC So that was Florian over on the right? From where I was standing I could only recognise Ralf. I thought the the 100% bald chap pratting about during 'PC' must have been a new, temporary member! He made great gestures of "pressing the special keys" - none of which seemed to have any bearing on the music. And that semi-robotic swaying! That was Florian?! Well, glad he enjoyed himself, I suppose! >Thank god I went to Trance Europe at 21.15. It was already packed then. We >managed to get a central postion quite near the front and by the time the >intro >started you just couldn't move. It was disgraceful; the "organisers" should be shot! The press had been told all about the great Kraftwerk, and how Tribal Gathering had secured the appearance of these innovators. And then, after all the publicity, they weren't even put in the main tent. Not even when the 'Detroit' tent was closed down in deference to them during their set! Consequently, even people at the outermost parts of the tent were being squashed and jostled. Eventually, as the concert was starting, the sides of the tent were raised up so that people standing outside had a chance of hearing, if not seeing. Fortunately for me a fair number of young ravers found that Kraftwerk was not to their taste, and left during the first half hour. From Roland Metzger >After this I thought about what I could have made differently... Should I= > >have said nothing to them and just listened to their conversations or >should I have made a full frontal assault and asked important questions As long as you didn't dribble, start screaming or lose consciousness you did fine. :-) Thanks for the anecdote! It was worth attending TG to see Kraftwerk, but I can't say I was impressed by the size of the site (too many tents in limited space) the overcrowding (there can't have been any limit on tickets) or many of the other acts (I saw a bit of Aux 88 in the Detroit tent, and managed to glimpse Orbital in the far distance in the main tent, but the metronomic thud from nearly all tents got wearing very quickly!). Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Daily Telegraph Review Date: 29 May 1997 16:15:59 +0200 (DFT) Todays Daily Telegraph contains a review of the Kraftwerk concert at the Tribal Gathering. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) NME Review Date: 29 May 1997 16:20:32 +0200 (DFT) > The latest issues of both 'Melody Maker' and 'NME' also contain reviews - > the NME one has an excellent colour picture of Kraftwerk performing > 'The Man Machine' (as well as a few smaller ones too) - both editions > are issues dated 31 May 1997. The NME review is now online at http://www.nme.co.uk/970531/reviews/live5.html, without the photos, unfortunately. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Power Subject: (kw) where do they get their money? Date: 29 May 1997 16:02:40 +0100 Dear All, Sorry if this has already been posted, but I'm on the digest :-) I did a search of patents at the URL Klaus posted and found that in July '75 both R&F patented an "electronic percussion musical instrument". Basically this means that they invented the drum machine (I think!), so the money's probably rolling in for them all the time, judging by the patent description. Ta ta for now Alien Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Fermin Goiriz" Subject: RE: (kw) where do they get their money? Date: 29 May 1997 17:49:45 +0200 > I did a search of patents at the URL Klaus posted and found that in July '75 > both R&F patented an "electronic percussion musical instrument". Basically > this means that they invented the drum machine (I think!), so the money's > probably rolling in for them all the time, judging by the patent description. > > Alien Dave Hm, I don't think so. I've read somewhere that the first drum machine was used in Kraftwerk's "Klingklang", at the same time than in Sly Stone's "Family Affair", both from 1971. But I am not sure... Regards # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larry R. LaCost Jr." Subject: (kw) Robots & Computer CD Audio Date: 29 May 1997 09:35:18 -0700 The US distributor of Time+Space, www.timespace.com, does NOT handle the KW sampled CD of Robots & Computer. It is handled by East/West distributor (800)833-8339 and they can handle individual purchases. They are charging a whopping $99.95 for the 70 minute CD. The CD "Robots & Computer" is made by Best Service. Larry R. LaCost Jr. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQGlFRCEhNzAbKEI=?= Subject: (kw) HELLO!! Date: 30 May 1997 01:35:00 +0900 Hello! This is my first time to write you. I am writing this message in Tokyo,now. I have been a KRAFTWERK fan for a long long time. (about 17years.....) I love ELEKTRIC MUSIC and YAMO,too. I want to talk with you about them. Please tell me MORE about your impressions of Tribal Gathering!! #---Sorry,I don't write English well. *** Madame Curie / Frau Kaoru BARTOS *** *** from Tokyo with love xxx *** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Bob Weustink Subject: Re: (kw) where do they get their money? Date: 29 May 1997 20:03:17 +0200 Hello, >Where do they get their money? Well I think the song rythm is a dancer by snap is actually a song done by Kraftwerk using mainstream sounds. "Proof": -In 1992 Ive studied the video with slow motion and I`m quite sure I saw a robot pop in the videoclip though Im not 100% Who can confirm this? -One drum sounds like a Kraftwerk drum. -On the cover of the cd single the title is written in the typical kraftwerk font like on computerworld -Ive seen a "spokesman" of snap on tv in 1992 telling that snap consists out of "free lancers" which he didnt want to name I dont know how much many you earn with one big hit but it sure was one a few years ago. Bob Weustink bwe@dds.nl http://www.xs4all.nl/~bwe/index2.htm # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Daneel Olivaw Subject: Re: (kw) TG photos and reviews wanted Date: 30 May 1997 14:53:20 +0600 >example, I could offer an audio tape with the complete Tribal Gathering K >raftwerk concert in return. This is the second occasion that someone on this list has mentioned that they have a complete recording of the TG event. Why doesn't someone please post at least the new song onto the web/ftp? I'm sure that you all want to milk the fact that you have something that someone else doesn't for as long as you can, but some of us live a long way away and couldn't make it, but would like to at least hear the only new material revealed by kraftwerk for about a decade. I beg you to make a good .wav or .mp3 and post it somewhere. If it comes down to it, I can put it on my webspace, if you don't have the room. Emmett epepper@vt.edu # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) How do they get their money to live? Date: 29 May 1997 18:59:24 +0000 Statik was saying: > Does any of you know what KW (or R & F) do to get their money? >To they build keyboards? Are they millionaires from birth? What? How? I always assumed they came from well-off backgrounds or had some kind of investment income - don't know why - it's just the impression I've always had - I know Wolfgang got into interior design a while back, as for Karl, maybe he earned extra cash from being a orchestral percusionist or something. I really can't imagine Ralf and Florian doing nine-to-five jobs! Jon Alsbury # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Bruce M. Lloyd" Subject: (kw) Tapes, recordings, Mini Discs... Date: 29 May 1997 16:21:19 -0400 If *anyone* has a copy of the TG show, I would love a copy. I am DYING to hear this new track. Let me know if you have it on tape or anything and I will pay for a copy. Bruce ---- Bruce M. Lloyd, bml@bgi.on.ca Macintosh Technical Support Services and Systems Engineer BGI Systems Integration Markham, Ontario, Canada # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Michael Melzer" Subject: (kw) IRC Date: 29 May 1997 22:46:10 +0200 Can someone please again post the information about the Kraftwerk IRC room? Danke Michael Melzer e-mail: h8551159@asterix.wu-wien.ac.at WWW: http://www.wu-wien.ac.at/usr/h85/h8551159/fanet.htm ¿ Hay una discoteca por aquí ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Pelan Subject: (kw) Tantalising Tribal Sounds Date: 29 May 1997 21:56:47 +0100 (BST) I sit here in my office, busily rattling away on my keyboard during the late evening when I hear strains of Kraftwerk wafting through the window. It started with Radioactivity and then TEE which means I can safely say that someone in the park not far from my window has a Tribal tape ;-) Just thought I'd share that little moment with you all... John P. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Conny_Fornb=E4ck?= Subject: SV: (kw) where do they get their money? Date: 29 May 1997 23:11:09 +0200 in July '75 > both R&F patented an "electronic percussion musical instrument". Basically * this means that they invented the drum machine. I think you come a little quick to conclusions here.=20 In order to recieve a patent your invention must be totally unknown to = the public before you apply. This was obviously not the case for drum = machines in general by the year of 1975. This is rather an *application* = for a very special principle of constructing drum machines. You cannot = see from this document if the patent were ever granted, and you cannot = see what *kind* of invention this actually is. Patent-applyers often try = to make the title of their patent documents as cryptic as possible, in = order to make it more difficult for their competitors to find the = invention. USA has a very special patent-system, which I don't know very much about = (I know the European systems better). But it seems strange to me that = they also have applied to "patent" the design of the machine. This is = (in Europe) normally done by registering a "pattern" (& impossible to = patent). Perhaps this is merely a design than an actual invention? BTW thanks to Klaus Zaepke who was able to find this patent. Since I = found the voice-patent seven years ago I have been trying to find other = patents by R&F without success. I actually searched through all european = patents, and all american and japanese patents from early seventies to = the beginning of the nineties without finding anything. To my defence I = have to say that at that time there were no databases to search through, = I had to do it all manually. :( I do suggest though, that Klaus or anybody else interested and = german-based list-fellow contacts the German patent office and ask them = for help. It is possible that KW applied for other patents in Germany, = but that they were turned down so fast that the applications never = reached Sweden. All (old) patents are official documents, so there = should be no problems getting a copy of possible R&F-doc's. Maybe there are more stange inventions out there... /Conny # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) where do they get their money? Date: 29 May 1997 23:38:08 +0200 >Well I think the song rythm is a dancer by snap is actually a song done >by Kraftwerk using mainstream sounds. Okay, this might be, but does Snap doesn't still make music? And why would a band want to use freelancers (assuming they've used others than KW as well)? Doesn't make sense, i think. Laterz, Johan. -- "I doubt, therefore I might be..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jon Alsbury Subject: Re: (kw) BBC Broadcast Slooooooooow!! Date: 28 May 1997 23:51:13 +0000 > The first thing I noticed was the speed of Numbers / computer World in > comparison to what I remebered from the night. this was confirmed by > several of the people with me. It was incredibly sloooooow. yep - it's slower than it should be. why? over to the BBC for an answer to that one... Jon Alsbury # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Morper Subject: (kw) MP3 vs. tape Date: 30 May 1997 00:16:09 -0200 To all those of you who got a bootleg of KW's TG-performance: Could anybody please sample it, convert it to MP3 and put it on an FTP- oder WWW-server? Spending two hours leeching files is easier and cheaper than sending out tape-copies. If some of you join together it is little time and effort for each. Bye, Thomas (tmorper@karlstadt.netsurf.de) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David Datta Subject: (kw) The uwp.maillist.* newsgroups Date: 29 May 1997 15:39:59 -0500 I just wanted to mention that some folks may be trying to send to this list via posts to the newsgroup uwp.maillists.kraftwerk. Everyone should know that postings sent there will NOT be sent out to the list members. The local newsgroups uwp.maillists.* were not supposed to have been propagated outside the uwp.edu domain and should not have been created at other sites. I have noticed several people posting messages that are making their way back to uwp.edu. These messages are not seen by others on the list. I will try and reply to those directly but I wanted to make sure everyone knew not to post to uwp.maillist.kraftwerk. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tom807@aol.com Subject: (kw) Don Was Date: 29 May 1997 19:24:19 -0400 (EDT) In the June 1997 issue of Stereophile magazine, in an interview with record producer Don Was, he says: "Kraftwerk to me is evocative as Robert Johnson. It's evocative of an emotional coldness." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DHOLTON@derwent.co.uk Subject: (kw) TG 6 Date: 30 May 1997 10:00:43 +0100 Well they did turn up and they were pretty damn good and they played a new song.Unsure about it as yet.For the new song and then the finale (Musique Nonstop) they put strange suit with luminous yellow lines on to simulate their digitised alter egos on the Musique Nonstop video.A little comical I thought 1hr 43 minutes of good stuff not all of it played back on Radio 1 -I listened to it on the motorway (ha!) whilst travelling back from Luton. I like the change (more funky) in the bass line to Computerworld and It's the first time out of 7 gigs that I've ever seen the Man Machine. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DHOLTON@derwent.co.uk Subject: (kw) TG 6 Date: 30 May 1997 10:14:01 +0100 Well they did turn up and they were pretty damn good and they played a new song.Unsure about it as yet.For the new song and then the finale (Musique Nonstop) they put strange suit with luminous yellow lines on to simulate their digitised alter egos on the Musique Nonstop video.A little comical I thought 1hr 43 minutes of good stuff not all of it played back on Radio 1 -I listened to it on the motorway (ha!) whilst travelling back from Luton. I like the change (more funky) in the bass line to Computerworld and It's the first time out of 7 gigs that I've ever seen the Man Machine. Dave # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mark Humphrey" Subject: (kw) Re: Missing some posts Date: 30 May 1997 10:34:03 +0100 >I was checking the Mail List Archives and found quite a few messages these past coupla days which I >never received in my Email Robot, Thanks for bringing this to my attention. You have confirmed my fears. I actually sent two mailings to the list. They were never mailed back to me so I checked the archive. I found my review there, so came to the conclusion that it had been sent out to the list, but not back to myself. Obviously this was not the case. So here are those two mailings: BBC Broadcast was not live! 25 May 1997 13:49 I've been trying to subscribe to this list for some time, and after some technical difficulties have finally succeeded. So, Hello! Well I was there last night, 10 feet from the front of the stage. The atmosphere was incredible (just listen to the crowd noise!) and Kraftwerk were truly fantastic. It was 35 pounds very well spent, in fact the whole day was excellent! This is the bummer though. Contrary to how they made it out, the BBC *DID NOT* broadcast the Kraftwerk set live. They played an edited version one hour after it finished. Kraftwerk came on stage at 10:15 and finished shortly before midnight. That's right, there was a good hour and a half of music, the BBC left a LOT out, including the *new track* That's all for now. If got some things to do, but I send a review of the gig and that new track later on. Cheers Mark Tribal Gathering Review 26 May 1997 00:12 Sorry, but this mail is a little on the long side. I went to Tribal Gathering with my friend Andy. After spending the day checking out all of the tents (a lot of good stuff there was too), we decided that the only way to guarantee a good spot would be to turn up at the Trans Europe tent nice and early. This we did (2 and a half hours early in fact). We chilled out to the strange sounds of The Two Lone Swordsmen, who completed their 8 hour set (I kid you not!) at 9pm. There followed an hour of silence whilst things were set up. As the time approached 10pm you could feel the air of anticipation. 10pm came and went and everyone started to become impatient. Then at 10.15 the sound system came to life with "Die Mensch Machine..Kaftwerk!" followed by the familiar sounds of Numbers. The audience erupted. The black curtains opened to show four work stations consisting of a keyboard with a console of equipment behind. Behind each workstation was a video projection screen. Four men black collarless suites walked onto stage from the right. Ralf took his place on the far left and Florian on the far right. They played almost emotionless throughout the first part of the set. Florian smiled a couple of times, but managed to restrain himself. I'm sure that I saw Ralf smile once. The curtain closed after the first part of the set. When the curtains reopened (with much encouragement from the crowd!) the four members were standing in front of their work stations, with hand held keyboard/controllers, which were identical apart from Ralf's, who appeared to have the slim-line model! Naturally they performed Pocket Calculator. The atmosphere on stage changed totally. Kraftwerk had given themselves permission to have fun! Ralf tapped his foot furiously. If he had moved his other leg he would have been dancing :) After singing "I'm the operator with my pocket calculator" he made a hand signal. Moving it Across and then down. At one point the lyrics change to Chinese or Japanese. Ralf pulled at the corners of his eyes to make them "slity" (for want of a better word, sorry). Not exactly politically correct, but it was amusing to see him do it. Florian appeared to be having a great time. Grinning most of the way through. Right at the end pretending to play guitar in true rock god style :) , with his hand held controller's cable as the fret board. With Pocket Calculator finished the curtain was closed again. Or they tried to close the curtain. They became stuck. The security staff had to hold them closed. The curtains reopened to the sound of The Robots. But this time nobody appeared on stage. It would seem that it was a recording. None of the console lights were flashing apart from the volume indicators. Just as we thought that The Robots was finishing, it started up again and the video screens elevated to reveal those famous robotic effigies. They started to move their heads and arms. Initially Ralf's head turned to face the other three, and they turned to face him. The curtains were closed again, by the security staff :) When it opened again the chaps were back behind their work stations. But this time their suits were illuminated by fluorescent green bands and matching shades, making them look like green versions of Automan (does anyone remember that show?). A pretty stunning effect. A very fast pounding beat started, with a complex synth pattern over the top of it. The baseline started, and we knew that this was a track that Joe Public was hearing for the very first time. "What was it like?" I hear you ask... Techno! Its fast and repetitive and does not have a prominent melody. Although a melody of sorts does appear a couple of times it doesn't dominate the track. It's very good, but its not special and if a DJ had played it as part their set, only the most discerning listener would realize it was KW. The set drew to a close with Boing Boom Tschak and Technopop. One by one the members of Kraftwerk walked off the stage. Leaving Ralf by himself, finishing off with a wonderful solo of string chords, before he too left the stage. This was the first time I have ever seen Kraftwerk live, and they blew me away. I hadn't anticipated just how good they would be (fool I hear you cry!). The rest of the audience loved it too. The atmosphere was fantastic, and the tent was absolutely jam packed. I've seen a couple mails from people who listened to the RealAudio/BBC *recorded* edited broadcast and thought that audience reaction was lame (must have had pretty poor reception in your area!). All I can say is you should have been there, because you missed out big time!!! We went to see Orbital afterwards. Unfortunately because Kraftwerk ran late, we only just managed to squeeze into a corner of the tent. This meant that the sound quality was appalling, with a massive delay between the sound coming from the speaker stack next to us and the sound arriving from the other side of the tent. Never mind, I'll just have to see them again! But I tell you what, the vibe during the Orbital gig was nowhere near as good that in the Trans Europe tent last night. Kraftwerk were undeniably the highlight of Tribal Gathering '97. Well here's "a" track listing for TG. I say "a" because me and Andy can't remember the exact order of play (and admittedly can't guarantee the accuracy of the track listing either!). But I can say that they didn't play Compluter Love (as some had reported). Er, so here goes. Numbers Computer World Man Machine Tour de France Home Computer / Its More Fun To Compute Autobahn Radioactivity Trans Europe Express Pocket Calculator The Robots Untitled New Track Boing Boom Tschak Techno Pop / Musique Non Stop Cheers Mark # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Fjellström Subject: (kw) Warhol + new KW joke Date: 30 May 1997 10:53:38 +0100 Hello lads! I suppose most of you know who Andy Warhol is, so I won't really go further on that. I know someone said earlier that "Kraftwerk is Pop art, no more, no less". How true. I've been investigating Warhol, reading books and so on. It's amazing, they're practically the same personality, the same mentality, almost the same image and everything... I'll tell you this: Find out as much as you can about Warhol, and you'll understand what I mean. It's all getting clearer now, about the Kraftwerk mentality... --- By the way, a little respond to all those "Ralf&Florian conversation jokes", that makes it easy to understand why they are so hard to understand: RALF: Florian, how come it's so hard to tell a joke in German? FLORIAN: Easy - with the German grammars, the punchline comes first and after that comes loads of auxiliary verbs. ...of course you'll have to know one or two things about the German grammars to find this funny, I do, but however I'm quite a miserably bizarre bastard... Enjoy your weekend! Love, Marcus # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Zillo 6/1997 Date: 30 May 1997 14:02:53 +0200 (DFT) Kraftwerk is featured with five pages in the June issue of the German magazine Zillo. The article is basically an extended version of the beforementioned Rhein-Zeitung article, with some additional quotes from Ralf Huetter (taken from an old interview) and Wolfgang Fluer. Fluer states that he has already heard the new Kraftwerk album. He says also that Kraftwerk is no longer the main occupation of Ralf Huetter and Florian Schneider. Huetter spends most of his time cycling, while Schneider spends a lot of time with his family. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard.Poolton@dmgexhib.co.uk Subject: (kw) Anyone sussed the hardware? Date: 30 May 1997 13:36:24 Did anyone at the concert ascertain exactly what kind of kit the guys had. From where I was it looked as though, this time, Ralf was the only one that actually played a keyboard. That's well different from '91 when I clearly saw Fernando Abrantes playing the Radioactivity melody. This time Fritz and Henning seemed to use the same type of mixing equipment that Orbital use on stage and I couldn't make out at all what was in Florian's console, though he didn't seem to be "playing". As I mentioned before there was definately no live drumming. The portable stuff used during PC was different from last time too. Ralf and Henning both had mini-keyboards, but one-touch of Henning's seem to result in a series of notes as opposed to just the one. Lastly a secret source I have (sorry but I cannot divulge any information) has confirmed that the title of the new track is FIR ORCHARD. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tiger Moses Subject: (kw) space for TG files Date: 30 May 1997 08:57:40 -0500 If anyone needs space on an ftp server for ANY Kraftwerk TG performance files, images, etc....use mine! Anonymous ftp to 206.42.44.213 (limit simulataneous users) its an 128K ISDN, divided by 3 modem user is still max modem throughput! The real audio files that were put together by our Werker in the Netherlands aer being mirrored there. There is also a few kraftwerk mod/s3m/xm files on ftp://206.109.108.194/kraftwerk/ I have collected for your pleasure # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: cgross@pop.erols.com (Christopher Gross) Subject: (kw) Florian's Dad Date: 30 May 1997 10:40:05 -0400 You can find a sample of Paul Schneider-Esleben's work at http://www.clear-screen.com/data2/dr4/htm (a modernistic chair-and-table set). About the robot voices mentioned in recent postings: I always thought they might have been using an Amiga, since the voice quality is pretty much the same as an Amiga's voice synthesizer-- which can also do four-part harmony. Mine can do a pretty good imitation of the "HEUTE ABEND--" voice :-]... Unfortunately there hasn't been much software written for it. Hey, there's a thought... Chris Gross (cgross@erols.com or cgross@harris-pub.com) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tosh@loop.com (Tosh) Subject: Re: (kw) Warhol + new KW joke Date: 30 May 1997 08:01:42 -0700 I am interested in your views regarding the relationship between Warhol and Kraftwerk. Could you explain or add commentary on this subject? ----------------- Tosh Berman TamTam Books ---------------- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQGlFRCEhNzAbKEI=?= Subject: (kw) HAPPY BIRTHDAY! Date: 31 May 1997 00:15:00 +0900 Today is 31.MAY .......... :) "Happy birthday, Mr.Bartos!!" "Alles Gute zum Geburtstag, Herr Bartos!!" "Otanjyoubi omedetou, Bartos-san!!" *** Madame Curie / Frau Kaol BARTOS *** *** from Tokyo with love xxx *** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thomas Morper Subject: Re: (kw) where do they get their money? Date: 30 May 1997 17:58:53 -0200 >Well I think the song rythm is a dancer by snap is actually a song done >by Kraftwerk using mainstream sounds. I don't think so. Snap is a project of two guys from Frankfurt (there was a report on TV some weeks ago). And it's also hard to imagine Kraftwerk doing mainstream music like this since they even refused to do some jingles/intros for Arte (French/German culture TV). But maybe you're right, I don't know, just some thoughts. Bye, Thomas (tmorper@karlstadt.netsurf.de) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "ROBOT" Subject: (kw) Mail Liat Archives Date: 30 May 1997 09:49:21 -0700 Okay, here's the ftp link so y'all can look in the Archives to see which = posts you're missing. Thanks to all who re-sent their TG reports- God, I = ENVY you guys who were lucky enough to BE there! ROBOT@humboldt1.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Robert West Subject: (kw) spiders on heat Date: 30 May 1997 17:01:45 +0100 (BST) RALF: ich kannicht sehen FLORIAN: es tut mir leid RALF: ich habe keine augen FLORIAN: meine wellensittich haBt keine augen RALF: deiner kanichen? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mats.Kadmark@gfs.gu.se (Mats Kadmark) Subject: (kw) JPG-pics? Date: 30 May 1997 18:04:43 +0200 Hello!!=20 =20 Since I just started doing a KW-www-page two days ago, I would like to=20 add pictures and music files not available on any other KW-pages.=20 =20 If you got KW-pics from Tribal Gathering in JPG-format or the new song=20 in ra- or wave-format, I could add them to the page... other=20 suggestions are welcome as well.=20 =20 Mats Kadmark=20 =20 http://www.student.gu.se/~maka0067=20 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gareth Price Subject: (kw) Tribal gathering Date: 29 May 1997 14:07:59 -0400 Well thats one of my lifes ambitions fufilled i have finaly seen kraftwer= k play live and they were BLOODY BRILLIANT! I did have tickets to see them at brixton academy on their last tour but that weekend my house burnt down so i didnt get to go. I couldnt belive i was finaly there 15 feet from the best group on the planet, although my girlfriend and i had been in the trans europe tent fo= r over an hour prior to the start it was well worth it to have got so close= to the stage. The only problem was that during TEE my girlfriend started to feel faint [shes only five footish] so i had to take her outside for some fresh air.= It was quite a feat to push your way through 1000 + people![sorry if it w= as any of you that i trod on on the way out :-}] She was feeling better after a drink so we got back to the edge of the te= nt just in time to see the robots.[ i had no trouble seeing the stage being six foot three has its advantages.] Then the moment we had all been waiting for A NEW SONG!!!! That just made the day complete. I was so glad i went and hope i get another chance to see them again soon= =2E My girlfriend has even started to play their ablums now and her only problem is trying to get me out of the tee shirts i bought. On a scale of 1 to 10 i give it a 60 Gareth = # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: datta@cs.uwp.edu (David Datta) Subject: (kw) uwp.maillist.kraftwerk Date: 30 May 1997 12:27:28 -0500 I guess my message was kind of confusing. Maybe this will be more clear: Here is what happened. We set up a local newsgroup uwp.maillist.kraftwerk as a local read-only gateway to the kraftwerk mailing list when it used to be run here. At some point, our internet provider let the newsgroup get sent out to the world. When the list moved to xmission.com, we kept the gateway open and all list postings went out to the newsgroup. Someone started using the newsgroup to gather addresses for spam e-mail lists so we had it shut off so list generated postings are sent only to our campus. Anyone can post to uwp.maillist.kraftwerk, I just wanted to make sure that folks knew the postings don't also go back to the mailing list. * Actually, anyone who is not at uwp.edu can post to the newsgroup. Our traffic to the newsgroup is not sent out to the rest of the world. That is why I didn't just post a message to the newsgroup to say this. -Dave -- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ultravox5@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Tapes, recordings, Mini Discs... Date: 30 May 1997 18:41:56 -0400 (EDT) In a message dated 97-05-29 20:29:28 EDT, bml@bgi.on.ca (Bruce M. Lloyd) writes: << If *anyone* has a copy of the TG show, I would love a copy. I am DYING to hear this new track. Let me know if you have it on tape or anything and I will pay for a copy. Bruce >> Same here!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQGlFRCEhNzAbKEI=?= Subject: (kw)The name of the company Date: 31 May 1997 23:27:00 +0900 Do you know a formal name of KW's company in Dusseldorf? I search after the name. "Kling-Klang Verlag GmbH"? No. This name isn't registered. I could confirm only this. Please tell me!! #---Sorry,I don't write English well. Did you understand?? *** Madame Curie / Frau Kaol BARTOS *** *** from Tokyo with love xxx *** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: John Talbert Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk MIDI files Date: 31 May 1997 15:49:08 -0700 Hello all! In honor of the wonderful experience I had seeing Kraftwerk at the TG, I have created two addional Krafwerk MIDI files and have added to the Resonance Underground Musik Lab page (my home page) at: http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/mainpage.htm Currently, the songs available are: Man Machine (It was so great at the TG) Electric Cafe Tour De France Robotronik (Robots - Kling Klang mix) Don't try and download the .mid files directly as the ameritech.net server corrupts the download. You'll need to download the "kraftmid.zip" file instead until my ISP has this problem cleared up. I'm now working on Neon Lights, Techno Pop (Unreleased version) and Home Computer (Mix Version) for my next page update (hopefully within a week). I'll also take your Kraftwerk midi file requests. I've got a couple of 'Time Traffik' samples in Real Audio available for listening, too (IDM/Minimal style). See ya! -John Talbert jtalbert@ameritech.net http://www.ameritech.net/users/jtalbert/mainpage.htm P.S. - If you know someone that's interested in a copy of the "Tone Float" CD, send me a note. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Simon Daw Subject: (kw) New List Member Date: 31 May 1997 21:44:56 +0100 Hi there! I would like to take this opportunity to introduce myself to the members of this list. My name is Simon and I live in Luton, England (yes - Luton as in Tribal Gathering, I was unable to go, but I caught the Radio 1 broadcast). I've been a casual fan of Kraftwerk since the release of Computer World, and have become more avidly interested since I found the boots of the pre-Autobahn albums. One of the main reasons for me joining the list is to find out if there are any unreleased demos etc. in circulation. I understand that there may be some demos from the aborted Techno Pop album. If somebody has some of this material and would be interested in working up a deal with me, then please email me privately - thanks. The other reason is to see if there is somebody out there who could get hold of a German Language version of Electric Cafe on CD for me. Again, please email me privately so that we can work out the details. Well, I guess I've got a fair amount to learn about the group, so I expect that I will be taking a back seat on the list for a few weeks, but I hope to get more ionvolved as time goes by. If anybody can help me with the items above, then please get in touch soon - I will look forward to hearing from you. That's all for now... Simon -- Simon Daw - esteem simon_kraft@esteem.demon.co.uk http://www.esteem.demon.co.uk # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paul Barnes Subject: (kw) Tribal Gathering; an impression Date: 29 May 1997 09:03:22 +0000 Having missed the Mix tour through another engagaement, I made sure of seeing Kraftwerk this time around. To be honest I really didn=92t look forward to the gig, with the thought that they might cancel or they might be past there best. My friend and I, another Kraftwerk diehard arrived with a deep level of cyncism. On the other hand it would be good to see some of the Detroit techno stars and Orbital. On arrival (at 6pm) both of us saw a balding figure in sunglasses making a call on a mobile. We both joked that it was Florian Schneider, if only we had realised it was. =20 Having walked around both of us found the whole occasion a little bland and a general feeling of this wasn=92t going to be our night. Wisely like alot of others we decided to arrive early at the gig. At 8.00pm the hall was very empty, by 9.30 it was packed. I think the fact they turned off the music at 9.00 was a good decision, everyone in the tent seemed to be that little more expectant, more focused on the event. Standing to the left of the stage, we were both amazed by those who had travelled so far to see Kraftwerk, but also the number of youngsters who seemed to be new enthuasists to the Kling Klang sound. A father had even bought his two sons (who seemed to enjoy the event) It was only at 9.50, ten minutes before the gig, that suddenly I felt any expectation. The black curtain that hid the stage had casually been open, just so the merest glimpse could be made of Kling Klang. With ten minutes to go I knew they would not cancel, it was definitely going to happen. The tension in the tent (which I estimate could hold 8-10,000) was immense. I don=92t know if it was a ploy or the reality of the situation, but at 10.00 pm Kraftwerk didn=92t take to the stage. The next ten minutes built up expectations even further. When the voice proclaimed =91Herren und Damen=85the man machine, Kraftwer= k=92, the crowd went mad. Anyone who hasd listened to the bootlegs or the radio broadcast cannot begin to believe how great the uproar was. Apart from the odd whistle, and some guy shouting =91old school in the house=92= , this was one of the best receptions I ve ever heard. When the stage drew back and they walked on, and started numbers, it was unbelivable, especially when the screens read =91ein, zwei, drei=85=92. Numbers is one= of the best opening tracks of any band, it just sets out the agenda of the gig. One of the most impressive things about them was the total feeling of the whole thing. They are by far the most memerizing thing I have ever seen on stage. It really feels like a complete art work. Having heard bootlegs of the Mix, the songs are similar in sound, but if one listens hard, one can pick up discernable different sounds. I though the bass and drum sounds were particularly new and interesting. The sound system was excellent, loud, but not to loud. Some of the complaints I might have levelled at the Mix seemed to be rectified on this tour, even Autobahn, my least favourite Kraftwerk track sounded excellent. Even the appearance of the Robots during Robots seemed really cool. One could see that they actually were enjoying themselves, I could detect little mistakes where quizical gestures were exchanged among members. Florian looked a bit older, and slightly larger in girth, having shaved off his remaining hair. Ralf on the other hand looked in great shape, looking really good. The black suits looked excellent, and I think they all wore the same style of black loafers. The new black suits with luminious green lines, somewhere between Tron and the Pet Shop Boys, were funny. The new song is strange. Only having heard it once, it didn=92t sound spectular apart from the bass line, but thats onl= y on one listen. Certainly it was more abstract and dancey, and perhaps show more of a link to side one of Electric Cafe, than to there more melodic side. It seemed appropriate for TG When they =DEnished with Musique non-Stop, both of us were gobsmacked by how good they were. By playing Tribal Gathering they allowed a direct comparison to many of there so called descendants. I thought Kraftwerk stood up well, and blew most of them away. They seem as they always do, both very contemporary and yet rooted firmly in the age of modernism of the post-war years (hence the showing of the TEE on the screens). We decided that anything after that gig was a bit of a letdown, so we left. We caught a bit of the live show on the radio, and as I said it really gives a pretty poor impression of just how good they were, and continue to be. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender.