From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) Update to www.kraftwerk.com? Date: 01 Jan 1997 10:52:17 -0500 (EST) Hi folks. Unfortunately, the account I am using from home at the moment is predominantly text-based, and this morning I noticed there was another change made to the www.kraftwerk.com website. The amount of bytes to the page has been expanded and I now notice tha there's an [EMBED] symbol to inform of some graphical change. Can anyone tell me what this change represents visually? So far all I know of from having been to the site on a different account was the black & green antenna graphic and the few seconds of .wav file that someone uncovered using Netscape. By the way, if anyone's still got a copy of that .wav that they can send over I'd appreciate it. I seem to have misplaced my other copy. Thanks. Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill mbarnhil@email.gc.cuny.edu "Turn the dials with your hand..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Luca Dassi Subject: (kw) Update to www.kraftwerk.com Date: 01 Jan 1997 20:35:48 +0100 A quick look inside the HTML code shows: >The BGSOUND tag has been replaced by the EMBED tag. >Reasons: >1. Netscape Navigator does not support BGSOUND >2. Microsoft Internet Explorer supports EMBED >3. Microsoft recommends using EMBED >4. Several thousand complaints arrived at kraftwerk.com" SEVERAL THOUSAND???? The whole thing is gaining momentum..... Peace, Luca G. Dassi Italy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: Re: (kw) Update to www.kraftwerk.com? Date: 01 Jan 1997 18:48:31 +0000 Scott M. Barnhill was saying: > Hi folks. Unfortunately, the account I am using from home at the >moment is predominantly text-based, and this morning I noticed there was >another change made to the www.kraftwerk.com website. The amount of bytes >to the page has been expanded and I now notice tha there's an [EMBED] symbol >to inform of some graphical change. Can anyone tell me what this change >represents visually? I wonder are Ralf and Florian playing a little joke on us all, or perhaps making fun of the Internet and the people who use it. It sounds like the sort of thing they would do :) -- /=====================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | |Irish Electroacoustic Music Association | JarreVangelisTomitaCarlos | |Synthesizer Freak | |ErasurePinhasTangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.net/customers/Alliance)| \=====================================================================/ "Blessed are the cracks, for they let the light through!" - Rev. Stevie Fever # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Update to www.kraftwerk.com Date: 02 Jan 1997 05:05:34 +0100 >>4. Several thousand complaints arrived at kraftwerk.com" why, do they have an e-mail address, too? personal home page http://users.iol.it/lbo reVision - musica e cultura non necessariamente convenzionale http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3041 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: Re: (kw) On MTV for real???? Date: 01 Jan 1997 13:02:46 +0100 Adam Schefflan wrote: > I saw an ad for the KraftweLT album in the latest "Pulse" (from Tower > Records), and I think they should be shot. It's absolute sacrilege and > false advertising as well! The artwork looks to similar to KW's image, > and it can do nothing but malign the image of our favorite band. This may be true, but how did the album sound? /Andreas Elin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) a mail-robot to warn about updates Date: 02 Jan 1997 05:35:41 +0100 hello. I see that someone is concerned about being noticed if www.kraftwerk.com get updated. there is a sort of robot I use for such purposes, it's a free robot that notice when a certain page get changed and tell this to you with an e-mail. the service is completely free and you can ask to be noticed for how much pages you like. you'll get some innocuous advertisement in the e-mail. I use it from a while and never noticed spamming following to that. the address for this service is http://www.netmind.com/URL-minder/URL-minder.html go there and follow the instruction, is straightforward easy. if the list owner thinks it's a good idea, it could even be possible to give the list address for the warning messages. or maybe it's better everybody do it for himself, after all. personal home page http://users.iol.it/lbo reVision - musica e cultura non necessariamente convenzionale http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3041 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fred Becker Subject: (kw) Did Kraftwerk Play Dallas on Computer World Tour? Date: 02 Jan 1997 01:26:09 -0600 I heard Kraftwerk played in Dallas on their Computer World Tour. Does anyone have the tour dates for their 1981 US tour? Did anybody here see that tour? Fred # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) ROBOT's Greeting Card Date: 02 Jan 1997 04:06:15 -0800 -(I, ROBOT)- HAPPY NEW YEAR!! 28 days and Counting.... IF the Album is on time.... So, did everybody get my Drawing? I can't post GraFFiX on the Mail List. I tried to send it to as many addresses as I could find. PLEASE Email me, yea or nay. EVERYBODY gets one. Cute little depiction of R&F in Party Hats, etc. -(The ROBOTWINS, ofcourse.)- My K-philes should also be sendable now, if anyone's interested in a few Old Articles with a couple of RARE Fotos. Please write for details. They're TRICKY to send, but, I'm doing the best I can for an Illiterate. You GOTTA see this foto of R&F with this Strange ROBOT, circa '77? Future 4, Aug.'78. -(The whole page is scanned as one image, foto AND text. jpg, 1351K. Brief article. NICE Color Foto!*YUM*!)- Talk to me. I need cheering up REAL bad.... I HATE this Fucking WET Weather! Humboldt County SUCKS! I FINALLY found a local book store that has M.M+M, but, they've been closed all week for the Holidays, and NOW I'm SICK and STRANDED! The roads are closed. I WANT MY BOOK!!*WAH-H-H*!! *GRRRR*!! :[ ROBOGRUMPY On a Lighter Note, I like the "Continuous WAV Play" -(new feature)- on the OFFICIAL KRAFTWERK WebSite. Nice touch, boys. Trying to Hypnotize us all- and succeeding very nicely!! "We not only TRY to brainwash people, we SUCCEED." Yep. Roger that. -(Whatever Article that quote is from, I WANT IT!)- Yikes!! 0400?!! JEEZ!! Guten MORGEN! ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Doepfer Interview Date: 02 Jan 1997 14:43:12 +0000 The January issue of the German magazine Raveline contains an interview with Dieter Doepfer, in which he talks a bit about his cooperation with Kraftwerk. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) 1981 US tour dates Date: 02 Jan 1997 14:43:13 +0000 > I heard Kraftwerk played in Dallas on their Computer World Tour. Does > anyone have the tour dates for their 1981 US tour? I don't have a complete list, but here are the (fragmentic) dates for the US / Canadian part of the tour I know: - Detroit, Nitro Rock Club, 25.07.1981 - Detroit, Nitro Rock Club, 26.07.1981 (possibly, not confirmed) - Chicago, Aragon Ballroom, ??. 07.1981 - Boston - Pittsburgh - San Francisco - Los Angeles - Washington, Warner Theatre, 02.08.1981 - New York, The Ritz, 03.08.1981 - New York, The Ritz, 04.08.1981 - Santa Monica, Civic Auditorium, ??.08.1981 - Montreal, Palace des Arts - Toronto Any additions and corrections to this list would be very welcome! Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) Doepfer Interview Date: 02 Jan 1997 16:34:17 +0100 At 14:43 2-01-97 +0000, you wrote: > >The January issue of the German magazine Raveline contains an >interview with Dieter Doepfer, in which he talks a bit about his >cooperation with Kraftwerk. > > Klaus Zaepke > Okay, that's nice. But can anyone tell me who this Dieter Doepfer is (I hope i am not making myself ridiculous with this.. but hey, God hates a coward.) C Ya! Johan. -- ******************************************************************************** * Statik is Here! Making Remixes and Megamixes is my pride & joy! :) * * e-mail: 0weterings01@lelystad.flnet.nl * * web-page: http://www.flnet.nl/~0weterings01 (a bit under construction) * ******************************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Ian Calder <101460.571@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) New Elektrik Music/Karl Bartos material soon? Date: 02 Jan 1997 13:34:42 EST Greetings and best wishes for the new year to all fellow mailing list subscribers..... I have been told by a source, who has been accurate with similar information in the past, that a new release from Karl Bartos/Elektric Music will be released in Germany in mid-January. Whether this is a single or album length release, I cannot say, but will certainly keep a look out. Klaus Zaepke has confirmed that there is no sign of such a release on the available schedule, but worth keeping an eye on new release listings..... as ever, in kraftwerkland, rumours, rumours..... Ian Calder # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Twingo on the Internet Subject: (kw) There is sound on the kraftwerk.com page ! Date: 02 Jan 1997 20:50:45 +0100 Just now I dicovered that there is a sound on the www.kraftwerk.com page. It takes some time before it is heared after the graphics are already on the screen. It's a 5 seconds repeating sound. Is it since long to hear on the site? groeten, Dolf / / twingo@xs4all.nl / dolf.wiemer@bbs.hacom.nl ----/---/---- Dolf Wiemer, the Netherlands / / tel.: int+31 24 677 00 06 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) "Telephone Call" vocals. Date: 02 Jan 1997 15:10:21 -0500 (EST) In "Man, Machine, and Music", Pascal Bussy writes of "The Telephone Call": "The track is also unique in that Bartos was confident enough to persuade the rest of the group that he should sing the song." Bussy then goes on to write of the "Telephone Call" remixes: "The remixes may well have been brought about because Huetter and Schneider considered Bartos' singing on the original version as too pop-oriented and unrepresentative of the voice of Kraftwerk." If I understand this correctly, Karl Bartos does indeed sing the original version of "The Telephone Call" that appears on the 'Electric Cafe' album. But, is it indeed Ralf Huetter that sings the other versions of "The Telephone Call" that were released on the 7" and 12"? Or, does Huetter's vocal on this track only appear on the "House Phone" remix of the 12" single? Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill mbarnhil@email.gc.cuny.edu "Try to get a connection on the telephone line..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: Re: (kw) Update to www.kraftwerk.com Date: 01 Jan 1997 20:22:06 +0000 Luca Dassi was saying: >>2. Microsoft Internet Explorer supports EMBED >>3. Microsoft recommends using EMBED >>4. Several thousand complaints arrived at kraftwerk.com" >SEVERAL THOUSAND???? The whole thing is gaining momentum..... Yep, as I mentioned earlier :) Sounds like Ralf is having a little joke to himself and Florian. -- /=====================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | |Irish Electroacoustic Music Association | JarreVangelisTomitaCarlos | |Synthesizer Freak | |ErasurePinhasTangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.net/customers/Alliance)| \=====================================================================/ "We don't need lessons from Brussels on how to be European. We have known that for centuries". -- Jean Michel Jarre # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Doepfer Interview Date: 02 Jan 1997 22:49:56 +0000 > >The January issue of the German magazine Raveline contains an > >interview with Dieter Doepfer, in which he talks a bit about his > >cooperation with Kraftwerk. > > > Okay, that's nice. But can anyone tell me who this Dieter Doepfer > is Dieter Doepfer is the owner of the DOEPFER Musikelektronic GmbH, a German company that produces electronic equipment (see http://www.doepferusa.com). Kraftwerk helped him with the development of at least two DOEPFER releases, the DOEPFER MAQ 16/3 Midi Analogue Sequencer and the DOEPFER A-100 Modular Sound System. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: Re: (kw) Doepfer Interview Date: 02 Jan 1997 21:46:51 +0000 Statik was saying: >>The January issue of the German magazine Raveline contains an >>interview with Dieter Doepfer, in which he talks a bit about his >>cooperation with Kraftwerk. >> >> Klaus Zaepke >> >Okay, that's nice. But can anyone tell me who this Dieter Doepfer is (I hope >i am not making myself ridiculous with this.. but hey, God hates a coward.) I imagine he's one of the designers for the US Doepfer synthesizer company, who brought out a new modular synthesizer recently (tip for those of you who can't afford a Moog modular). Florian apparently wrote a poem and sung it into the vocoder module on that synthesizer as advertising for the company - views on this list were split accordingly ;) -- /=====================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | |Irish Electroacoustic Music Association | JarreVangelisTomitaCarlos | |Synthesizer Freak | |ErasurePinhasTangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.net/customers/Alliance)| \=====================================================================/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Pilgrim Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com Date: 02 Jan 1997 18:26:48 -0800 Hi all! I'm back again. Anyway I checked the www.kraftwerk site and found the pseudo 1970's graphic interesting however I doubt that Kraftwerk actually did it. I think that some kid has created it for fun. Anyone can put up a web page these days. This feeling was further enforced when I heard that simple .wav sound on the page. I found the sound and melody to be a very crude and simple. Something that beginners typicaly get from conventional synths. Having gained much expertise in understanding Kraftwerk's style, techniques and methods of synthesis, this .wav synth sample is clearly the work of a child. I would have expected a sound to accompany the wavefront emitting from the antenna or a vocoded greeting of some sort. (The kid with the synth probably has never come close to a vocoder.) I'd expect much more from Kraftwerk if they really wanted to go on-line? Just look at the passion and commitment Ralph has put into cycling. Can you imagine him doing a web page with this same enthusiasm? Happy New Year and hopefully a musical one! btw It is curious to how the info bahr's format has changed to the www.kraftwerk green monochrome format. Anders what are you up to? Please email me about the Netwerk idea too! I am anxious to start. Philip -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Pilgrim Subject: (kw) <<>> Date: 02 Jan 1997 20:12:55 -0800 Roland VP-330+ Vocoder for sale. $1000 Mint 11 bands Analogue Choir Analogue Strings Stereo Ensemble Will trade for Korg X-3 Philip -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thilo Mezger Subject: (kw) Guten Tag! Date: 03 Jan 1997 01:22:51 +0100 (MET) Guten Tag! I'm Thilo from Germany and I've just subscribed to this list. I've listened to a lot of synth music in the 80s like Depeche Mode, Tangerine Dream and of course Kraftwerk. And the latter still sounds refreshingly new unlike the rest I've listened to. Now, in the 90s, I prefer electronic (techno?) music from Detroit (Juan Atkins, Derrick May, Carl Craig, Aux 88, Drexciya, Dopplereffekt etc.), Stefan Robber's Eevo Lute label, Mike Ink, B12/ART, to name but a few. My favourite KW album is Computerwelt. I've only seen KW playing live once on the Mix tour... :-( Es wird immer weitergeh'n Musik als Tr=E4ger von Ideen. _________ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ Thilo.Mezger@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de |___ ___| | |_| | | | | | / _ \ http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~ua5m/ | | | _ | | | | |___ ( (_) ) Stop Pollution - Create Eevolution |_| |_| |_| |_| |____| \___/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Future808@aol.com Subject: (kw) KW Video Date: 02 Jan 1997 19:53:52 -0500 Sorry if this has been answered 1000 times already, but... One of the first videos I ever saw was Kraftwerk. I can't recall the song, but I was wondering if someone could direct me to some KW Video (VHS only please). Thanks. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com Date: 02 Jan 1997 22:31:46 +0000 >Having gained much expertise in understanding Kraftwerk's >style, techniques and methods of synthesis, this .wav synth sample is clearly >the work of a child. Critics have always spoken about Kraftwerks child like melodies. It is VERY likely that this is a real kraftwerk wav. file. It sounds like a Jupiter 8 synth...wich i know for absolute FACT they are using on the new album ( as told by Ludwig Rheberg one of their synth engineers ,to a close friend), AND it follows the same motif as Computer World,Electric Cafe...... >I'd expect much more from Kraftwerk if they really wanted to go on-line? Kraftwerk have ALWAYS been about minimalism and Bauhaus-esqe virtues. PS: your about $250 bucks over priced on that VP-330 -- Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: (kw) Doepfer Interview Date: 02 Jan 1997 22:46:16 +0000 >Florian apparently wrote a poem and sung it >into the vocoder module on that synthesizer as advertising for the company - >views on this list were split accordingly ;) Supposedly they ( Kraftwerk) did the whole Doepfer demo CD.I have the CD and they use the vocdoer to narrate the whole CD . I don't know if it is Kraftwerk doing the Demo though...... They did do a small poem on the KEYS magazine Doepfer Demo........ -- Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kenneth Wang Subject: (kw) CDs Date: 02 Jan 1997 20:04:02 -0800 Can someone please enlighten me in regards to KW's CD situation in the US? It seems Autobahn is nowhere to be found, Computerworld onward are on Elektra, and the title in between were/are on Capitol (as Indent/Alliance respectively) and were on Cleopatra. If the three title will be reissued on Alliance, when? I assume Capitol's sound quality is superior to Cleopatra's. Thanks for any info. Ken. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Doepfer Interview Date: 03 Jan 1997 05:35:07 +0100 >> >interview with Dieter Doepfer, in which he talks a bit about his >> >cooperation with Kraftwerk. could it be possible to have an excerpt of this interview? I think many of us couldn't get german magazines nor can read german. if you cite the source it would be even legal, for the italian law. I don't know abroad, anyway... personal home page http://users.iol.it/lbo reVision - musica e cultura non necessariamente convenzionale http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3041 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Musser Subject: (kw) InterNIC's whois database Date: 02 Jan 1997 23:19:42 -0600 (CST) For what it's worth, when someone registers a domain, InterNIC makes some of their contact information publically available. Try this: http://rs.internic.net/cgi-bin/whois Then enter the domain name in which you are interested. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "deckard" Subject: (kw) Andreas Kuckartz Date: 02 Jan 1997 11:35:56 +0100 Hi kraftwerkians, I'm Rafa from Spain. This morning I send an e-mail to Andreas Kuckartz.... Hello Andreas, I´m Rafa Salazar from Spain. Do you know something about this page: http://www.kraftwerk.com 1. Is this the Kraftwerk official page? 2. Do you know something about Kraftwerk new album? Thank you very much! And I recived these words from Andreas.... > 1. Is this the Kraftwerk official page? Yes. > 2. Do you know something about Kraftwerk new album? No answer. Andreas NO ANSWER ???? :-) DECKARD-AKTIVITÄT Regards from Spain. Rafa. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Eddie Subject: (kw) kraftwerk.com information Date: 03 Jan 1997 10:04:12 -0200 Hello men machines, I've done a whois in kraftwerk.com.br (thanx Musser ), and I got this: Klingklang(R) Studio c/o Andreas Kuckartz (KRAFTWERK2-DOM) Hochstrasse 24 Dortmund, D-44149 Domain Name: KRAFTWERK.COM Administrative Contact, Billing Contact: Kuckartz, Andreas (AK978) 100333.626@COMPUSERVE.COM +49 (231) 9 17 30 26 Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Hostmaster, C2 (CH1196) hostmaster@C2.NET 510-986-8770 (FAX) 510-986-8777 Record last updated on 03-Dec-96. Record created on 03-Dec-96. Domain servers in listed order: NS.C2.ORG 140.174.185.10 PANGAEA.ANG.ECAFE.ORG 194.129.42.2 NS2.INFONEX.NET 206.170.114.3 I gues it's for real, but what are they up to ?? See you in the computer world ! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) A-100 Demo CD Date: 03 Jan 1997 13:15:30 +0000 > Supposedly they ( Kraftwerk) did the whole Doepfer demo CD.I have the CD > and they use the vocdoer to narrate the whole CD . I don't know if it is > Kraftwerk doing the Demo though...... Apparently not. The CD gives credits to Andreas Merz (who was apparently also involved with the "Robots and Computers" sample CD, BTW). But I do agree that the vocoder voice on this CD sounds extremely similar to Florian Schneider's vocoderized voice. Or is it maybe that every voice sounds more or less the same after some vocoder treatment? I would be very interested in other opinions! BTW: If somebody is interested in obtaining a free copy of this demo CD: The Raveline magazine has ten copies as prices in a raffle. To win a copy, you have to send a postcard with the word "Analogical 23" written on it to the following address: A.E.C. Geronimo Verlag GmbH Raveline Magazin Arenbergstr. 5 45701 Herten GERMANY Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Doepfer Interview Date: 03 Jan 1997 13:15:30 +0000 > >> >interview with Dieter Doepfer, in which he talks a bit about his > >> >cooperation with Kraftwerk. > > could it be possible to have an excerpt of this interview? Certainly. Here are the Kraftwerk-relevant parts of the interview in original German. An English summary follows at the end of this message. "Klangforschung im analogen Sektor: DOEPFER Musikelektronik, Muenchen"; Raveline 01/1997, p. 84-85 [non-Kraftwerk-relevant parts left out] [...] RAVELINE: Der Midi-Analog-Sequenzer MAQ 16/3 wird in Ihrer Werbung mit dem kleinen Satz promoted, dass er in Zusammenarbeit mit Kraftwerk entstanden sei. Was ist da dran? DIETER DOEPFER: Wir haben schon seit laengerem recht gute Verbindungen zu Kraftwerk, also zu Ralf Huetter und insbesondere zu Florian Schneider. Vor vier oder fuenf Jahren haben wir uns kennengelernt, da haben die beiden Sonderanfertigungen gebraucht, ganz abgefahrene Sachen und haben niemanden gefunden der ihnen sowas baut. Wir haben dann gesagt: "Kein Problem!". So haben wir uns halt persoenlich kennengelernt Wir kommen recht gut miteinander aus. Inzwischen ist eine konstante Kooperation entstanden. Zum Beispiel basiert der MAQ 16/3 tatsaechlich auf einer Idee von Florian Schneider. Und auch beim A-100, dem Modular-System, sind die Module staendig hin und her gegangen! Wir sind hoch nach Duesseldorf gefahren oder der Florian ist zu uns nach Muenchen gekommen und hat sich das angehoert und konstruktive Kritik geleistet. Speziell beim Vocoder hat er uns ziemlich unterstuetzt, hat uns vergleichbare Geraete zur Verfuegung gestellt, die wir ausmessen konnten. Die Leute von Kraftwerk wissen natuerlich, was die Musiker benoetigen. [...] Ich denke, dass Kraftwerk ziemlich kompetent sind. [...] RAVELINE: Wird Doepfer Musikelektronik weiterhin auf analoge Klangerzeugung setzen oder denkt man schon daran, sich vielleicht auch an digitale Geschichten heranzuwagen? DIETER DOEPFER: [...] Ich streite nicht ab, dass die Arbeit an virtuellen Benutzeroberflaechen auch ihren Reiz hat, aber bei einem Liveauftritt auf einer verdunkelten Buehne kommen Geraete wie das A-100 , das MAQ oder das Schaltwerk viel besser zur Geltung. Die Zuhoerer koennen sehen, dass etwas passiert, wie die Akteure Schalter und Regler bedienen und die Laempchen flimmern. Das ist einfach eine Dimension, die man mit reinen Computersystemen in der Form nicht erreichen kann. Das ist auch der Grund, warum Kraftwerk eine ganze Reihe von Geraeten benutzen, die wir anbieten: Auf der Buehne tut sich etwas. English summary: Dieter Doepfer is on good terms with Kraftwerk, especially with Florian Schneider. They know each other since four or five years, when Kraftwerk needed some weird special equipment, and nobody else wanted to build it for them. There is a permanent cooperation between Doepfer and Kraftwerk. The MAQ 16/3 is based on Florian Schneider's idea, for example. He helped also with the development of some of the modules for the A-100, especially the vocoder module. Doepfer thinks that Kraftwerk are quite competent with electronic equipment. The reason why Kraftwerk use Doepfer products is that the analogue Doepfer equipment provides more action on stage in comparison to a pure computer system. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Die Roboter Rubato" Date: 03 Jan 1997 13:15:30 +0000 Some magazines print already reviews for the CD "Die Roboter Rubato" by Terre Thaemlitz (on the Mille Plateaux label), which contains cover versions of Kraftwerk tracks, arranged for piano. I thought that the release was scheduled for late January... Is it already out? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Pilgrim Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com Date: 03 Jan 1997 10:04:27 -0800 hello, > Critics have always spoken about Kraftwerks child like melodies. It is > VERY likely that this is a real kraftwerk wav. file. It sounds like a > Jupiter 8 synth...wich i know for absolute FACT they are using on the > new album ( as told by Ludwig Rheberg one of their synth engineers ,to a > close friend), AND it follows the same motif as Computer World,Electric > Cafe...... If you listen to the .wav file, you clearly hear a simple resonant filter with long decay and no waveforms assigned. It is from a polyphonic synth because the decays overlap. It is a six voice synth because after six notes are played, the decay of the first note is robbed. If I had to guess I would say a Yamaha CS-60, Roland Juno-6/60/106, Jupiter 6, Oberheim Matrix 1000, SCI Max/Six-Trax). (These are synths that I have experience with and could easily re-create the .wav file). Since the Jupiter 8 is an 8 voice synth, it would not be the one used here. But of course this .wav could be generated by any 6 voice synth with analogue filters because it is only a resonant filter sound that is heard, there is nothing to distinguish the exact synth. Also the sample rate is only about 11k @ 8bit mono (someone was very thrifty)! Again the melody is simply firing off a few keys across the keyboard, something that Ralph or Florian could do in their sleep. It is not a simple melody that is heard, just simple playing. > PS: your about $250 bucks over priced on that VP-330 Find me one for $750 and I'll buy it. I just spent $900 on a MAM 19" 1U vocoder from Germany The MAM is also 11 bands but has no keyboard, no ensemble, no strings, nor that analogue choir sound similar to the one heard on Radioactivity. The VP-330+ has all of these...and is very rare. btw has anyone figured out how Kraftwerk do the synthetic digital voice and tune it? I've tried running the digital voice wav files generated on my computer through a midi controlled pitch shifter and alligned the pitch shifting to match the word and melody however it is a great deal of work and the results are only half as good as Kraftwerk's. It is especially difficult to stretch and compress words to make them fit rythmicly ie radioactivity to Raaadiiioooo activ ity. The software engines I use to stretch/compress are quite powreful but again the results are not as good. Philip -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam J Weitzman Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com Date: 03 Jan 1997 10:22:52 -0500 Philip Pilgrim wrote: > > Hi all! > > I'm back again. Anyway I checked the www.kraftwerk site and found the > pseudo 1970's graphic interesting however I doubt that Kraftwerk actually > did it. I think that some kid has created it for fun. Anyone can > put up a web page these days. Yeah, but not everyone can register a site in the name of Klingklang Studios under a person who has been identified as definitely working there. That's a pretty costly and elaborate hoax. Usually when it is a hoax, there is much more misleading information, but this site is, well, almost empty. It has been established that the site has been changing slowly, and I imagine that they are building the site up until the day their supposedly-new CD is released, so that they have another marketing vehicle. > I'd expect much more from Kraftwerk if they really wanted to go on-line? This site has not been advertised anywhere. This is the beginning, not the finished product. Frankly, I'm a little skeptical about news of a new album. It's been over ten years since they released any new songs. But the fact that they're starting to create a site has my hopes up. I hope I'm right. -- Adam J Weitzman "Getting [your computer] to work is no more Individual, Inc. difficult than building a nuclear reactor weitzman@individual.com from wristwatch parts using only your teeth." http://www.individual.com - Dave Barry # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Erik Barth" Subject: Re: (kw) Andreas Kuckartz Date: 03 Jan 1997 16:40:09 +0100 Hello Rafa and other listees, > > 2. Do you know something about Kraftwerk new album? > > No answer. > > Andreas That could mean something: My record shop phoned EMI Netherlands this afternoon and after the question if they knew something about a new Kraftwerk-album, they answered: Please phone back within three weeks. So no confirmation nor denial. They surely know a bit more, but I guess not the details. Maybe they will expand their web-side on the release date, making it a "multi-media" release. More ideas? Regards, Erik dbarth@xs4all.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) KW Video Date: 03 Jan 1997 11:27:29 +0100 At 19:53 2-01-97 -0500, you wrote: >Sorry if this has been answered 1000 times already, but... > >One of the first videos I ever saw was Kraftwerk. I can't recall the song, >but I was wondering if someone could direct me to some KW Video (VHS only >please). >Thanks. > As far is I now there is only one official Kraftwerk VHS release, which is a compilation from Greenpeace against the Sellafield nuclear reactors. The title is "Stop Sellafield", and features both Radio Activity and The Robots. Apparently they performed there as part of The Mix tour (not sure about that BTW). Other bands performed were U2, Public Enemy and Big Audio Dynamite II. My copy was distributed by BMG, BM560. I haven't got a clue if it is still for sale. Hope your happy with this info. Later, Johan. -- ******************************************************************************** * Statik is Here! Making Remixes and Megamixes is my pride & joy! :) * * e-mail: 0weterings01@lelystad.flnet.nl * * web-page: http://www.flnet.nl/~0weterings01 (a bit under construction) * ******************************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com Date: 03 Jan 1997 10:01:20 -0700 (MST) > btw It is curious to how the info bahr's format has changed to the > www.kraftwerk green monochrome format. Ha! The Discography Machine Kraftwerk page looked that way before either of them! (http://www.swcp.com/lazlo-bin/discogs?kraftwerk) :-) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Otso Pakarinen Subject: Re: (kw) Andreas Kuckartz Date: 03 Jan 1997 21:15:04 +0200 Erik Barth wrote: > That could mean something: My record shop phoned EMI Netherlands this afternoon > and after the question if they knew something about a new Kraftwerk-album,they > answered: Please phone back within three weeks. > > So no confirmation nor denial. > > They surely know a bit more, but I guess not the details. > > Maybe they will expand their web-side on the release date, making it a > "multi-media" release. That would be my guess, also. Otso # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: Re: (kw) KW Video Date: 03 Jan 1997 19:50:06 +0000 Future808 was saying: >One of the first videos I ever saw was Kraftwerk. I can't recall the song, >but I was wondering if someone could direct me to some KW Video (VHS only >please). >Thanks. Now this is very interesting. I didn't even know Kraftwerk had any videos in the shops. The only stuff floating around that isn't illegal is the Greenpeace Sellafield thing they did, and that's only one or two songs. -- /=====================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | |Irish Electroacoustic Music Association | JarreVangelisTomitaCarlos | |Synthesizer Freak | |ErasurePinhasTangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.net/customers/Alliance)| \=====================================================================/ "I didn't want to make music any longer. I didn't want to be a robot. I didn't want to make concerts, even, I didn't want to be with the boys after all those years" --- Wolfgang Fleur, on leaving Kraftwerk in 1987. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com Date: 03 Jan 1997 19:36:09 +0000 Philip Pilgrim was saying: >I'm back again. Anyway I checked the www.kraftwerk site and found the >pseudo 1970's graphic interesting however I doubt that Kraftwerk actually >did it. I think that some kid has created it for fun. Anyone can >put up a web page these days. Not in this case - Ralf and Florian, I believe, successfully sued a German power generation company for using the www.kraftwerk.com URL. A look at the InterNIC page also gives some additional hints. > This feeling was further enforced when I heard that simple .wav sound on >the page. I heard that as well, and IMHO it was very kraftwerk-y! It reminded me of TheMix. >to be a very crude and simple. Something that beginners typicaly get from >conventional synths. Not sure if I'd agree there........ >Kraftwerk's style, techniques and methods of synthesis, this .wav synth >sample is clearly the work of a child. I would have expected a sound to >accompany the wavefront emitting from the antenna or a vocoded greeting of >some sort. This is a good point. >I'd expect much more from Kraftwerk if they really wanted to go on-line? >Just look at the passion and commitment Ralph has put into cycling. Can >you imagine him doing a web page with this same enthusiasm? But can you imagine him doing a new album with any enthusiasm ? Think of it that way :-) Anyway, Kraftwerk, I think, were never totally happy with the idea of a computer- pervaded society. I still think that this is a kind of play on the Internet and the idea of setting up web pages, which often are absolutely no use to the browser (take a look at the pages of many large companies who simply desire "a web presence"). I think Ralf and Florian are merely having a good old laugh at us all. -- /=====================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | |Irish Electroacoustic Music Association | JarreVangelisTomitaCarlos | |Synthesizer Freak | |ErasurePinhasTangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.net/customers/Alliance)| \=====================================================================/ "We don't need lessons from Brussels on how to be European. We have known that for centuries". -- Jean Michel Jarre # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) KW CDs in US Date: 03 Jan 1997 20:33:53 EST >>> It seems Autobahn is nowhere to be found, Computer World onward are on Elektra, and the title in between were/are on Capitol (as Indent/Alliance respectively) and were on Cleopatra. <<< The Elektra CDs were originally on Warner Bros. Autobahn is on WB on vinyl & cassette; you can find the EC and CW on Warner Bros. if you look or if you order them specifically. Has anyone actually recorded at Kling Klang besides the gods themselves? I'm off to Cozumel for 10 days tomorrow. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com Date: 03 Jan 1997 23:58:02 +0000 > The VP-330+ has all of these...and is very rare. They are quite common in here in NY. >btw has anyone figured out how Kraftwerk do the synthetic digital voice and tune it? • 1. Kraftwerk use a few different stand alone phoneme generators, One from Amtrak(yes the train company)another from the military. • 2. I use a program for the Mac in wich I enter a word then play a note from a simulated keyboard on screen (like a piano) to assign the key note pitch, then duration .....i imagine they have something similar for IBM¿.You can also write your own phonemic representations using Speech Manager on Macs. • 3. There are many universites in England that do phoneme research , and have many programs available for UNIX machines . I'm going to be working on one soon that will modify the phonemes using different filters and effects.... -- Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) Computer Crash! Date: 04 Jan 1997 00:20:26 -0800 -(I, ROBOT)- Good News/Bad News Dept. The GOOD News is: the flood's over, roads are open, and the water is safe to drink again- and, I GOT MY M.M + M BOOK yesterday! The Bus was on time, it didn't rain on me, and my bronchitis isn't any worse for having gone out. This BOOK is the Best Medicine I could hope for- until the New Album materializes in my anxious, trembling hands.*sigh*. The BAD News is: The Computer Crashed last night, THEN the phone lines were down all day today. I checked the Archives and found a couple of letters to the Mail List that I never received in my Email box. All recent Email has been OBLITERATED, inCLUDing everything saved in the trash back to Oct. 17th! -(I THINK my husband did a back-up, but, it'll take DAYS to sort through this mess. Hm-m, *click*.... *GASP*! OH, NO! Where's my K-philes?! NO! NOOOOO!! I CAN'T ACCESS MY K-PHILES!! oh, shit- they'd BETTER be on tape!)- I'm toast. I received Email from Klause Zaepke today, and a coupla other non-kw messages, but, a few people wrote yesterday, and I never got a chance to respond before the messages/addresses were LOST- so, PLEASE write again!*sob*! My Computer doesn't Love me anymore! HELP! Why must the Faithful SUFFER so? Well, actually it's his Computer, and he doesn't care about my KRAFTWERK stuff. NOTE: The b/w foto in The BOOK of R&F with "The Bachelor Machines" in Paris -(OH-h, So, THAT'S what 'event' that was!)- is a different shot, same ROBOT scene, of the Future4 foto I have. Mine's in color, slightly closer-up, with R&F at much more flattering head angles. My fave foto in The BOOK is "under the METRO sign" with Florian flashing that Elekrtifying GRIN of his!@@!*ZOINK*! I want a POSTER Enlargement to put on the ceiling.*sigh*. Sweet Dreams! ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dougt@netcom.com (Doug Terrebone) Subject: (kw) KW tribute band in SF Bay Area Date: 04 Jan 1997 01:29:09 -0800 (PST) Hi, I was wondering if any fellow KWers in the Bay Area would like to form a KW tribute band... I have a home studio with lots of synths and enjoy recreating their genius on them and thought it would be fun to hook up with others with similar interest/experience... Thanx, Doug dougt@netcom.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Max Watson Subject: (kw) saw The Model on MTV! =) Date: 04 Jan 1997 02:59:17 -0800 Ya know that techno show called AMP that airs on MTV at 2am Saturday morning? Well.. I'm sitting here doing some work, when I hear faint music I recognize! It's THE MODEL! Sound quality was horrific, and the video was mediocre, but it's still Kraftwerk....!!! Can't wait for the new album... Max # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "deckard" Subject: (kw) Elektric Music Lyrics Date: 03 Jan 1997 13:13:18 +0100 Hi all! Anybody knows where I can get the lyrics of ESPERANTO from ELEKTRIC MUSIC? Thanks for advance! Only 25 days to THE K -DAY! Rafa from Spain. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sigurd Gulliksrud Subject: (kw) Q. Date: 04 Jan 1997 14:05:17 +0100 Could anyone please help me by answering two simple questions: I thought I had all released CDs by Kraftwerk except the Ralp & Florian 1 & 2 releases. But yesterday I found two CD's that I'd never seen before; "Kraftwerk - Organisation" titled "Tone Float" and "Kraftwerk" titled "Ralf & Florian". I guess the last one is the first Ralf & Florian CD? ..and that Organisation was a band Ralf & Florian were members of in the late '60s & early '70s? sigurdg@online.no ErEgO@IRC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) New Yamo release dates Date: 04 Jan 1997 14:12:54 +0000 The release of the first Yamo single has been put back until January 17th. The album is now scheduled for February. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) New Kraftwerk album? Date: 04 Jan 1997 14:12:55 +0000 > My record shop phoned EMI Netherlands this afternoon > and after the question if they knew something about a new > Kraftwerk-album, they answered: Please phone back within three weeks. > So no confirmation nor denial. The denial came from EMI Germany. One of my friends phoned them and asked about the Japanese release date. He got the answer that there are no plans at all for a Kraftwerk release, especially not for January 29th. (I have to add that he spoke "only" to somebody from the distribution department, not to the person in charge with Kraftwerk.) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Elektric Music Lyrics Date: 04 Jan 1997 14:25:32 +0000 > Anybody knows where I can get the lyrics of ESPERANTO from ELEKTRIC MUSIC? An unofficial transcription of the lyrics used to be available from ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/pub/music/artists/e/elektric.music/lyrics, but this address doesn't seem to work anymore? Have they been removed? Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) Q. Date: 04 Jan 1997 10:08:12 -0500 (EST) >I thought I had all released CDs by Kraftwerk except the Ralp & Florian >1 & 2 releases. >But yesterday I found two CD's that I'd never seen before; "Kraftwerk - >Organisation" titled >"Tone Float" and "Kraftwerk" titled "Ralf & Florian". I guess the last >one is the first Ralf & Florian CD? I think some of the misconception here stems from the fact that the band itself was never called 'Ralf & Florian'. 'Organisation' was the name of Ralf & Florian's band from 1968-1970, at which time they released their "Tone Float" lp. Shortly following that, the band adopted it's new name "Kraftwerk" and went on to release 'Kraftwerk' that same year. So here's the briefest discography that one could list. I hope this answers all your questions: ORGANISATION ------------ Tone Float - 1970 KRAFTWERK --------- Kraftwerk - 1970 Kraftwerk 2 - 1972 Ralf & Florian - 1973 Autobahn - 1974 Radio-Activity - 1975 Trans-Europe Express - 1977 The Man-Machine - 1978 Computer World - 1981 Electric Cafe - 1986 The Mix - 1991 Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill mbarnhil@email.gc.cuny.edu "I'm controlling and composing..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Pilgrim Subject: (kw) Wait...what else is new? Date: 04 Jan 1997 11:00:06 -0800 > My record shop phoned EMI Netherlands this afternoon > and after the question if they knew something about a new > Kraftwerk-album, they answered: Please phone back within three weeks. > So no confirmation nor denial. It's been 6 years since "THE MIX" what difference does a few months or even a year make? I think that Kraftwerk are masters at what they do but they are either: 1. perfection fanatics 2. busy with other interests 3. extremely gifted but very lazy bums!!! 4. their eye sight decline (due to age) is interfering with their ability to see their control surfaces and video displays, thus slowing their progress. Who knows? They could be polite enough to drop us a line once in a while. They are quite unfriendly in this sense....too bad. Now if they hailed from the province of Newfoundland they would have invited us all to tea by now :) from Canada Philip -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com Date: 04 Jan 1997 18:35:06 +0100 On 04-Jan-97 A.D., J P M carved the following runes about "Re: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com": > 2. I use a program for the Mac in wich I enter a word then play a note >from a simulated keyboard on screen (like a piano) to assign the key >note pitch, then duration .....i imagine they have something similar for= >IBM=BF.You can also write your own phonemic representations using Speech= >Manager on Macs. I've got a PD prg for the Amiga that translates what I type into e.g. Mao= ri or Klingon phonemes before it sends it to SPEAK (i.e. the speech generato= r of AmigaOS). The results are... err.. hilarious! Gerade aus! -- = ______________________________________________= _ E M A N U E L M A I R // All animals are equal, but some animals are= | mair@medstud.gu.se \\ // more equal than others - Orwell, Animal Far= m| GSM:+46-(0)70-7819014 \X/ SYSTEM ALERT #0.998 System Error:"Intel Inside= "| http://medstud.gu.se/~mair SYSTEM ALERT #2 Virus Detected: "Windows 95" = | |______Team AMIGA_____________________/boing\__________/bumm\_______/tsch= ak= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Henderson" Subject: (kw) Web promotion Date: 04 Jan 1997 13:44:32 -0700 Seems to me that using the 'net to promote their new album is the ultimate match for Kraftwerk. They're not big on public appearance, but seem to want wide knowledge of their music. As such, the web is a nice match, because they can control the information presented there precisely, from one location -- but people around the globe can see what they present anywhere, anytime. Interesting... (okay, not VERY interesting...) Mike # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "K.C." Subject: (kw) The Model on MTV Date: 04 Jan 1997 13:07:24 -0800 Yup! Saw it last night on that new show Amp. Cool video. Live shots of the band with interludes of b/w model clips. Very weird seeing this on MTV. They also played cool stuff by Aphex Twin, Underworld, and FSOL. May be MTV's first good move! K.C. P.S. the show is on again tonight, I think. Same time, 2 am to 3 am. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sigurd Gulliksrud Subject: Re: (kw) Q. Date: 05 Jan 1997 00:06:41 +0100 Scott M. Barnhill wrote: > "Tone Float" lp. Shortly following that, the band adopted it's new name > "Kraftwerk" and went on to release 'Kraftwerk' that same year. So here's > the briefest discography that one could list. I hope this answers all your > questions: Thank you! ..but, whats that '73 release doing "there"? > Ralf & Florian - 1973 And btw; I've heard "Tour d'France" - where can I get it? > Scott M. Barnhill sigurdg@online.no ErEgO@IRC # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: (kw) Elektric Music Lyrics Date: 04 Jan 1997 21:09:43 -0700 (MST) > > Anybody knows where I can get the lyrics of ESPERANTO from ELEKTRIC MUSIC? > > An unofficial transcription of the lyrics used to be available from > ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/pub/music/artists/e/elektric.music/lyrics, > but this address doesn't seem to work anymore? Have they been > removed? I believe that the lyric archives at cs.uwp.edu were shut down at the insistance of the record companies. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Pilgrim Subject: (kw) Digital Vox Date: 05 Jan 1997 00:39:10 -0800 > • 1. Kraftwerk use a few different stand alone phoneme generators, One > from Amtrak(yes the train company)another from the military. > > • 2. I use a program for the Mac in wich I enter a word then play a note > from a simulated keyboard on screen (like a piano) to assign the key > note pitch, then duration .....i imagine they have something similar for > IBM¿.You can also write your own phonemic representations using Speech > Manager on Macs. > > • 3. There are many universites in England that do phoneme research , > and have many programs available for UNIX machines . I'm going to be > working on one soon that will modify the phonemes using different > filters and effects.... I use a synthetic voice generator called IPOX on the PC. The results are not so great. Actually the packages that come with $60 soundblasters are better but they do not produce .wav files. Maybe everyone with these speech generators can create an audio file and email it to me. I'll then assemble them for comparison and others to auditon. How about digitizing the sentences: " Kraftwerk are from Dusseldorf, Germany. They now live in a computer world" Try to do it to some sort of melody. Have fun Philip -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: (kw) Wait...what else is new? Date: 05 Jan 1997 00:04:36 +0000 Well one thing that has kept them (Florian) busy is that he (his girlfriend) had a baby girl last year so ( or the yaer before).......thats a hand full...... -- Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 11:37:19 +0000 Subject: Re: (kw) Wait...what else is new? > From: Philip Pilgrim > I think that Kraftwerk are masters at what they do but they are either: [...] > 3. extremely gifted but very lazy bums!!! Yeah! An average composer of the 19. century produced much more music per year than Kraftwerk did during their entire career (remixes included). > From: J P M > Well one thing that has kept them (Florian) busy is that he (his > girlfriend) had a baby girl last year so ( or the yaer before)....... That's hardly a reason. An average composer of the 19. century produced much more children per decade than Schneider did during his entire life! :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: (kw) Q. Date: 05 Jan 1997 00:08:36 +0000 Missed a few officials >KRAFTWERK --------- >Kraftwerk - 1970 >Kraftwerk 2 - 1972 >Ralf & Florian - 1973 >Autobahn - 1974 >Radio-Activity - 1975 >Trans-Europe Express - 1977 >The Man-Machine - 1978 >Computer World - 1981 Tour de France Techno Pop (it does exist,you just have to look) >Electric Cafe - 1986 >The Mix - 1991 -- Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Techno Pop" Date: 05 Jan 1997 11:37:19 +0000 > From: J P M > > Missed a few officials [...] > Techno Pop (it does exist,you just have to look) Very well, in this case you are certainly able to provide us with detailed information about track listing (exact running times etc.), sleeve artwork, label design, catalogue number and matrix numbers, aren't you? Thank you very much in advance, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) Q. Date: 05 Jan 1997 12:46:41 -0500 (EST) >Missed a few officials > >Tour de France >Techno Pop (it does exist,you just have to look) hehe..I must be losing it in my old age (22). :) I thought I spoke somewhat in depth in my last post about "Tour De France" and 'Techno Pop'. If I remember correctly, I did so in the same letter that I posted that brief KW discography in so as to not 'miss any officials'. hehe.. In any event, the list I had posted was only intended to contain those *albums* ("Tour De France" not being one) and their corresponding years that were released by the record labels in a official context. While on the subject of 'Techno Pop' however, I find myself in alignment with Klaus' curiosity regarding the detailed nature of this release, so please do share with us!! :) Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill mbarnhil@email.gc.cuny.edu "Wenn wellen schwingen ferne stimmen singen..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: Re: (kw) Q. Date: 05 Jan 1997 17:57:25 +0000 J P M was saying: >Missed a few officials >Tour de France >Techno Pop (it does exist,you just have to look) Well, that's hardly official. And anyway, how do you know ? -- /=====================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | |Irish Electroacoustic Music Association | JarreVangelisTomitaCarlos | |Synthesizer Freak | |ErasurePinhasTangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.net/customers/Alliance)| \=====================================================================/ "Eek, Eek, Wibble Hatstand, my old man's a monkey" -- Blackadder Goes Forth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kerbratf@cancom.net ( =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric?= Kerbrat) Subject: (kw) The Remix almbum? Date: 05 Jan 1997 17:28:17 -0400 Hello there. I have a question : what is that 'The Remix' cd ? It's copyrighted On It Music 1993 (cd 049). Here's the track listing : 1 computerwelt (razormaid mix), 10'00'' 2 das model (razormaid mix), 2'26'' 3 sex objekt (razormaid mix), 7'41'' 4 pocket calculator (mix-it remix), 6'33'' 5 the telephone call (razormaid mix), 6'48'' 6 the mix-medley (razormaid mix), 13'18'' 7 re-werked (music factory master mix), 4'39'' 8 sex objekt (techno pop version), 4'02'' 9 tour de france (disconet remix), 5'33'' 10 technopop (demo version), 4'19'' Do you know who's behind that? These are not covers versions, but real mixes. Obviously kraftwerk can't have maid such horrible medleys. Thank you for your help, and forgive my bad english. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Techno-Pop Album exists? (was: (kw) Q.) Date: 05 Jan 1997 12:54:15 +0100 At 00:08 5-01-97 +0000, you wrote: >Missed a few officials > >Techno Pop (it does exist,you just have to look) It does? Well, suprise me, then! As far as I know, the album was given a catalogue number by EMI (EMC 3407), but was cancelled apparently 'cause Kraftwerk wasn't happy with the mixdown and the low number of tracks on the album (four). Two release dates were set, and a subsequent tour was cancelled. If there is a "Techno Pop" pressed, it must have been a test pressing, but i seriously doubt there is such a pressing. If it exist, you not only have to look very good, but you also need a substantial amount of cash, i'm afraid :) All of the tracks on this album (except "Tour de France") were put on "Electric Cafe" instead in different versions. These Tracks were "Techno Pop", "Sex Object" and "The Telephone Call". I do have a copy (and i'm sure i am not the only one on the list) of both the tracks "Techno Pop" and "Sex Object" as they were mixed for the "Techno Pop" album. Smell Y'all Later! Johan. -- ******************************************************************************** * Statik is Here! Making Remixes and Megamixes is my pride & joy! :) * * e-mail: 0weterings01@lelystad.flnet.nl * * web-page: http://www.flnet.nl/~0weterings01 (a bit under construction) * ******************************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: Re: (kw) The Model on MTV Date: 05 Jan 1997 15:48:07 +0100 K.C. wrote: > > Yup! Saw it last night on that new show Amp. Cool video. Live shots > of the band with interludes of b/w model clips. Very weird seeing > this on MTV. > I don't know if this statement is for MTV USA, but MTV Europe shows 'The Model' every now and then. I have seen it so many times on MTV Greatest Hits that it tend to be boring. But on the other hand this is the 'only' video they show by Kraftwerk... /Andreas Elin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "deckard" Subject: (kw) ...about "Techno Pop" Date: 04 Jan 1997 22:13:39 +0100 Hi all, > Yes, I had to remove all lyrics from the music archives due to several > letters between University lawyers and music industry lawyers. I am no > longer allowed to send lyrics out to folks in any way. You may still > be able to find them at some of the mirror sites. Try mirrors.aol.com. Thank you very much to Klaus and Lazlo. I found the ELEKTRIC MUSIC lyrics in mirrors.aol.com (FTP). I have a CD called "TOCCATA ELECTRONICA" and its track 3 is "TECHNO POP(1983 Version)". What is this track? Is a copy of apromotional single of the unreleased album "TECHNO POP" or what is this exactly? Rafa from Spain. Regards! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) The Remix almbum? Date: 05 Jan 1997 16:46:12 -0500 (EST) >Hello there. I have a question : what is that 'The Remix' cd ? >It's copyrighted On It Music 1993 (cd 049). As far as I know, 'The Remix' is a bootleg remix compilation, having no official connections to Kraftwerk as far as releases go. > 9 tour de france (disconet remix), 5'33'' >10 technopop (demo version), 4'19'' Here's the curious thing about the track listing that you posted. The 'The Remix' CD that I know of contains another track that you didn't list between "Tour De France" and "Technopop". This other track is "Electric Cafe" (mix-it remix). Furthermore, you've listed it as a release from On It Music 1993 (cd 049), and the version I know of is listed as Smurf CD 92-05 (1992). Other than that the track listings are identical. Perhaps these are alternate editions of the same bootleg. You can check out the info on this Smurf CD bootleg in the extended Kraftwerk discography found in Anders' Infobahr. Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill mbarnhil@email.gc.cuny.edu "Boing Boom Tschak...Technopop" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jplanet@generation.net (Jef Planet) Subject: (kw) you guys get me all confused:> Date: 05 Jan 1997 16:53:48 -0500 Hello boys and girls, the last few days postings really got me confused... i know there is a demo version of sex oject on the bootleg titled schone neu welt...but as statik mentioned today, was it more or less the version due to be released on tehno pop album....or the first version was more...complete! the version i have here is poor sonding, which is acceptable since it is probably a stolen, cheaply mixed pre demo but even then, there is no much meat in this version, understanding that kw normally are more "perfectionists" than this i'd expect something a bit more consistant ....can statik help me with this? Was there another version that i dunno? Regarding the use of vocoders in radio activity, i recall an interview with Karl Bartos in keyboard or electronic music maker stating that in Tchernobyl, Harrisburgh.....part they just used plain samples of their own voices in phonemes, not the dec talk or any vocoders, even if they used some later in the song (for the chorus: radio-activity..) Oh! by the way i'm about to open a cafe here in Montreal, and guess what will be the name....to give you a clue it was the last kw album containing original material. Since then , this is Jef Planet saying good night, and be there tomorow, the future might be there! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) The Remix almbum? Date: 05 Jan 1997 22:27:13 +0100 At 17:28 5-01-97 -0400, you wrote: >Hello there. I have a question : what is that 'The Remix' cd ? >It's copyrighted On It Music 1993 (cd 049). >Here's the track listing : > 1 computerwelt (razormaid mix), 10'00'' > 2 das model (razormaid mix), 2'26'' > 3 sex objekt (razormaid mix), 7'41'' > 4 pocket calculator (mix-it remix), 6'33'' > 5 the telephone call (razormaid mix), 6'48'' > 6 the mix-medley (razormaid mix), 13'18'' > 7 re-werked (music factory master mix), 4'39'' > 8 sex objekt (techno pop version), 4'02'' > 9 tour de france (disconet remix), 5'33'' >10 technopop (demo version), 4'19'' > >Do you know who's behind that? These are not covers versions, but real >mixes. Obviously kraftwerk can't have maid such horrible medleys. > >Thank you for your help, and forgive my bad english. > Hi! Well, the guy behind this release is unknown (it's an illegal bootleg) but I know he also released a very good live bootleg "Nippon Numbers", KW in Japan 1981. Excellent Sound, the best I heard so far. Anyway, the remix is a compilation of kraftwerk track remixed for special DJ releases. The best known is Razormaid! which is featured with quite a lot of tracks on the CD. These remixes were made by Joseph Watt and Art Maharg (RIP). The Mixx-it remix of Electric Cafe was done by Steve Masters (Mixx-it is another DJ only remix label), and the Re-werked medley was released on the Music Factory Label, and the original is very hard to get (I know, cause all the other remixes i have on the original CDs and 12"s), and is IMHO very very VERY nice. The rather sad remix of Tour de France is from (guess again) The Disconet Label. Two non-remixes are the 'demoes' of "Sex Object" and "Techno Pop". These mixes were meant for the cancelled "Techno Pop" album. Hope you're a happy man now :) C Ya! Johan. -- ******************************************************************************** * Statik is Here! Making Remixes and Megamixes is my pride & joy! :) * * e-mail: 0weterings01@lelystad.flnet.nl * * web-page: http://www.flnet.nl/~0weterings01 (a bit under construction) * ******************************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: (kw) Techno-Pop Album exists? Date: 05 Jan 1997 22:27:10 +0100 >Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 12:54:15 +0100 >To: kraftwerk >From: Statik <0weterings01@lelystad.flnet.nl> >Subject: Techno-Pop Album exists? (was: (kw) Q.) > >At 00:08 5-01-97 +0000, you wrote: >>Missed a few officials >> >>Techno Pop (it does exist,you just have to look) > >It does? Well, suprise me, then! As far as I know, the album was given a catalogue number by EMI (EMC 3407), but was cancelled apparently 'cause Kraftwerk wasn't happy with the mixdown and the low number of tracks on the album (four). Two release dates were set, and a subsequent tour was cancelled. > >If there is a "Techno Pop" pressed, it must have been a test pressing, but i seriously doubt there is such a pressing. If it exist, you not only have to look very good, but you also need a substantial amount of cash, i'm afraid :) > >All of the tracks on this album (except "Tour de France") were put on "Electric Cafe" instead in different versions. These Tracks were "Techno Pop", "Sex Object" and "The Telephone Call". > >I do have a copy (and i'm sure i am not the only one on the list) of both the tracks "Techno Pop" and "Sex Object" as they were mixed for the "Techno Pop" album. > >Smell Y'all Later! Johan. > -- ******************************************************************************** * Statik is Here! Making Remixes and Megamixes is my pride & joy! :) * * e-mail: 0weterings01@lelystad.flnet.nl * * web-page: http://www.flnet.nl/~0weterings01 (a bit under construction) * ******************************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) you guys get me all confused:> Date: 06 Jan 1997 02:35:06 +0100 At 16:53 5-01-97 -0500, you wrote: > Hello boys and girls, the last few days postings really got me >confused... i know there is a demo version of sex oject on the bootleg >titled schone neu welt...but as statik mentioned today, was it more or less >the version due to be released on tehno pop album....or the first version >was more...complete! the version i have here is poor sonding, which is >acceptable since it is probably a stolen, cheaply mixed pre demo but even >then, there is no much meat in this version, understanding that kw normally >are more "perfectionists" than this i'd expect something a bit more >consistant ....can statik help me with this? Was there another version that >i dunno? > Well, Er, Umm... Okay, ask yourself this question: What is a Demo? A demo is a "sample of merchandise" from bands offered to record companies, right? KW don't have to worry about that, do they? So "Sex Object" is presumably not a demo. Another way for the 1983 version of "Sex Object" (and "Techno Pop") might have seen the daylight is that it was stolen by someone from the Kling Klang Studio, while it was conceived by KW. That hasn't happened before, did it? I think it is safe to say that that possibility is very unlikely. The third (and IMHO most plausible) way these 1983 tracks were put out is that someone copied them from the "Techno Pop" master tape. This tape does exist and obviously has been transferred from Kling Klang to some EMI office (The release of the Techno Pop album was planned and all so this is likely). Somewhere in this route the tracks must have been copied. I am not suprised if the whole album is stashed away somewhere! Okay, I admit it i might have been somewhat presumptious in previous messages, but I am not saying that the two 1983 tracks were taken from the "Techno Pop" album for sure. It is the likeliest possibility IMHO. If something is for sure, it is that nothing is sure in Kraftwerk-land. :) C Ya! Statik. PS: I wrote this 3:33 in the morning with eyes on sticks - forgive me if i go ashtray. :) -- ******************************************************************************** * Statik is Here! Making Remixes and Megamixes is my pride & joy! :) * * e-mail: 0weterings01@lelystad.flnet.nl * * web-page: http://www.flnet.nl/~0weterings01 (a bit under construction) * ******************************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Depeche Subject: Re: (kw) The Remix almbum? Date: 05 Jan 1997 21:00:02 -0800 (PST) On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric?= Kerbrat wrote: > Hello there. I have a question : what is that 'The Remix' cd ? > It's copyrighted On It Music 1993 (cd 049). > Here's the track listing : > 1 computerwelt (razormaid mix), 10'00'' > 2 das model (razormaid mix), 2'26'' > 3 sex objekt (razormaid mix), 7'41'' > 4 pocket calculator (mix-it remix), 6'33'' > 5 the telephone call (razormaid mix), 6'48'' > 6 the mix-medley (razormaid mix), 13'18'' > 7 re-werked (music factory master mix), 4'39'' > 8 sex objekt (techno pop version), 4'02'' > 9 tour de france (disconet remix), 5'33'' > 10 technopop (demo version), 4'19'' > > Do you know who's behind that? These are not covers versions, but real > mixes. Obviously kraftwerk can't have maid such horrible medleys. > All fo these mixes are Remix Service Mixes except for the Demo Version and the sex objekt trax. Andrew in Fresno # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: Re: (kw) you guys get me all confused: Date: 05 Jan 1997 21:21:58 -0700 (MST) > Well, Er, Umm... Okay, ask yourself this question: What is a Demo? A demo is > a "sample of merchandise" from bands offered to record companies, right? KW > don't have to worry about that, do they? So "Sex Object" is presumably not a > demo. In collector's circles, any alternate version of a track that predates a later, official release of that same track is generally referred to as a "demo". I have "demos" that are just the artist singing an early version of a track into a cheap handheld tape recorder to a solo piano or guitar accompaniment, "demos" that are partially-mixed studio material, and "demos" that are completed versions of tracks (or even albums) for whatever reason were rejected and revamped before their final commercial release. > Another way for the 1983 version of "Sex Object" (and "Techno Pop") might > have seen the daylight is that it was stolen by someone from the Kling Klang > Studio, while it was conceived by KW. That hasn't happened before, did it? It happens *all the time*. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: (kw) Re: Techno Pop Date: 06 Jan 1997 02:56:58 +0000 >Techno Pop (it does exist,you just have to look) >it was listed officially but was never printed, as far as I know... I have a copy of "Tecno Pop" and "Sex Object " the original versions .These have been verified as REAL by Francois Kevorkian (I used to intern at his studio)..He has the original 2" tapes ,in the studio ,for remixing..... -- Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Fischer Subject: (kw) Remix-Album Date: 06 Jan 1997 10:51:57 +0100 Happy new year everybody... Haven=B4t seen this other Remix-Album, but all the "Razormaid"-Mixes are= made by DJ Talla2XLC, DJ at the Techno-Club in the Dorian Gray/Frankfurt. He did some cool music with different projects (e.g. MoskwaTV, BiGod20). He made some Depeche Mode remixes, too, and they were nice. There was a special about him and Westbam on German videochannel VIVA, and they were talking about KRAFTWERK, too. Talla said that KW always sounded perfect, and sometimes he mixes some KW-songs in between the modern stuff, and there are always kids asking "What=B4s that? Sounds cool!". Peter SBK Software und Systeme GmbH | =20 Hollaendische Strasse 141 | E-mail: pfi@sbk-ks.de D-34127 Kassel | phone : 0049-(0)561-9899-701 Germany | Fax : 0049-(0)561-85161 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thilo Mezger Subject: (kw) Digitalizing Date: 06 Jan 1997 09:48:44 +0100 (MET) Hello! I'm a little bit confused: when "The Mix" was released R&F said in an interview that it was the by-product of their process of digitalizing their old material. If I remember it correctly they said that the KlingKlang studio was completely digital then (as they always seem to have the latest technical machines). That's why I always thought that the new album would be another crispy clear digital album continueing the tradition from Electric Cafe and The Mix. But now KW are cooperating with Doepfer creating new analogue gear... Could this mean that the new album will have more organic analogue sounds again?! Or have I misunderstood what they meant by digitalizing? What do you think they meant by this? Cheers! Thilo _________ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ Thilo.Mezger@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de |___ ___| | |_| | | | | | / _ \ http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~ua5m/ | | | _ | | | | |___ ( (_) ) Stop Pollution - Create Eevolution |_| |_| |_| |_| |____| \___/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Ferm Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk early synthezisers Date: 06 Jan 1997 13:44:31 -0800 Hi all! This is my first posting to the list. I'm a 31 year old (young) guy from Sweden. I'm interested in the early years of Kraftwerk and what commersial synthesizers they used then. The only one I know of is minimoog. Did they use any ARP or other commercial synthesizers before '74 ? Thanks in advance! Peter # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Gareth Price <106407.2720@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) introduction Date: 06 Jan 1997 10:26:19 -0500 Hi everyone, my names Gareth from the UK,ive been a big fan of kraftwerk since Autobahn was released in the 70s(my elder brother played it non stop when i was a kid). Ive got 11 kraftwerk albums, some unusual mixes.I had more on vinyl but my record collection was stolen :-( I also like Men without hats who were discribed as canadas awswer to kraftwerk on their cassette sleve. Its great to know kraftwerks still popular, thought i was the only one :-) and i cant wait for the new album. Looking forward to the next list, Gareth. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Max Watson Subject: Re: (kw) Elektric Music Lyrics Date: 05 Jan 1997 17:22:17 -0800 Strange. Seems all the "lyrics" links on the UWP site aren't world-readable. No problem! There's mirrors! ftp://mirrors.blue.aol.com/mir02/UWP/pub/music/artists/e/elektric.music/lyrics/e speranto. ftp://ftp.ms.mff.cuni.cz/MIRRORS/mirrors.aol.com/pub/music/lyrics/e/elektric.mus ic/esperanto. ftp://ftp.imp.ch/music/lyrics/e/elektric.music/esperanto. ftp://ftp.wits.ac.za/pub/mirrors/cs.uwp.edu/music/lyrics/e/elektric.music/espera nto. ftp://ftp.connectde.net/pub/rec/music/vocal/lyrics/uwp/e/elektric.music/esperant o..gz ftp://ftp.nijenrode.nl/rec/music/lyrics/uwp/e/elektric.music/esperanto. I didn't check all these, but the AOL site worked. Wonder how I got all these? Try http://ftpsearch.ntnu.no/ftpsearch where you can find anything and everything. Max >> > Anybody knows where I can get the lyrics of ESPERANTO from ELEKTRIC MUSIC? >> >> An unofficial transcription of the lyrics used to be available from >> ftp://ftp.uwp.edu/pub/music/artists/e/elektric.music/lyrics, >> but this address doesn't seem to work anymore? Have they been >> removed? > >I believe that the lyric archives at cs.uwp.edu were shut down at the >insistance of the record companies. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "deckard" Subject: (kw) new release date!!! Date: 05 Jan 1997 19:26:25 +0100 Este es un mensaje con múltiples partes en formato MIME. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBFB3E.5775C260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, This afternoon, I discovered something very interesting. I was checking http://cdeurope.com for news, when I found that Kraftwerk will not release their new album on 1/29/97... There are a new date... 1/29/1927 Well, We knews that they make robots, make mysterious web pages, but now... ...THEY ARE MAKING A TIME MACHINE !!!! :o) Taken from Cdeurope TOCP-50091 Yet Untitled New Album KraftwerkLabel: Emi Rel.: 1/29/27 Compact Disc album $45.95 TOCP-40022 New Single KraftwerkLabel: Emi Rel.: 1/29/27 5"CD single $22.95 BACK TO THE FUTURE. Rafa from SPAIN. (And from the past. I have my new CD copy !!!!! :o))) ------=_NextPart_000_01BBFB3E.5775C260 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

This afternoon, I = discovered something very interesting.
I was checking = http://cdeurope.com for news, when I found that
Kraftwerk will not = release their new album on 1/29/97...

There are a new date... = 1/29/1927

Well, We knews that they make robots, make mysterious = web pages, but now...

...THEY ARE MAKING A TIME MACHINE =  !!!! =             &= nbsp;:o)

Taken from = Cdeurope
--------------------------------------------------------
<= br>TOCP-50091
Yet Untitled New Album
KraftwerkLabel: Emi
Rel.: = 1/29/27    
Compact Disc album  $45.95

TOCP-40022
New = Single
KraftwerkLabel: Emi
Rel.: 1/29/27 =    
5"CD single =   $22.95

-----------------------------------------------= ---------

BACK TO THE FUTURE.
Rafa from SPAIN. (And from the = past. I have my  new CD copy !!!!!  :o)))

------=_NextPart_000_01BBFB3E.5775C260-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "deckard" Subject: (kw) new release date!!! Date: 05 Jan 1997 19:26:25 +0100 Este es un mensaje con múltiples partes en formato MIME. ------=_NextPart_000_01BBFB3E.5775C260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, This afternoon, I discovered something very interesting. I was checking http://cdeurope.com for news, when I found that Kraftwerk will not release their new album on 1/29/97... There are a new date... 1/29/1927 Well, We knews that they make robots, make mysterious web pages, but now... ...THEY ARE MAKING A TIME MACHINE !!!! :o) Taken from Cdeurope TOCP-50091 Yet Untitled New Album KraftwerkLabel: Emi Rel.: 1/29/27 Compact Disc album $45.95 TOCP-40022 New Single KraftwerkLabel: Emi Rel.: 1/29/27 5"CD single $22.95 BACK TO THE FUTURE. Rafa from SPAIN. (And from the past. I have my new CD copy !!!!! :o))) ------=_NextPart_000_01BBFB3E.5775C260 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

This afternoon, I = discovered something very interesting.
I was checking = http://cdeurope.com for news, when I found that
Kraftwerk will not = release their new album on 1/29/97...

There are a new date... = 1/29/1927

Well, We knews that they make robots, make mysterious = web pages, but now...

...THEY ARE MAKING A TIME MACHINE =  !!!! =             &= nbsp;:o)

Taken from = Cdeurope
--------------------------------------------------------
<= br>TOCP-50091
Yet Untitled New Album
KraftwerkLabel: Emi
Rel.: = 1/29/27    
Compact Disc album  $45.95

TOCP-40022
New = Single
KraftwerkLabel: Emi
Rel.: 1/29/27 =    
5"CD single =   $22.95

-----------------------------------------------= ---------

BACK TO THE FUTURE.
Rafa from SPAIN. (And from the = past. I have my  new CD copy !!!!!  :o)))

------=_NextPart_000_01BBFB3E.5775C260-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) This alleged "Techno Pop" master tape Date: 06 Jan 1997 20:35:07 +0100 (NFT) > From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> > > the "Techno Pop" master tape. This tape does exist It does? Fine, so what's the evidence? Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) Digitalizing Date: 06 Jan 1997 20:36:35 +0100 (NFT) > If I remember it correctly they said that the KlingKlang studio was > completely digital then True, but there are other interviews where Huetter stated that they were still using analogue gear. I wouldn't take his interviews too serious, his claims are often inconsistent. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Pilgrim Subject: (kw) Female Members of the band? Date: 05 Jan 1997 12:03:15 -0800 Well I always wanted to ask; who is the voice saying "Musique Non-Stop" I assume it is a sample from a TV or radio program but it somehow fits "too well". It is definately a human source rather than synthetic. Could it be Ralph or Florian through a "gender-bender" pitch shifter? Also, what about all of those others singing in "Sex Object" Could it be samples from a "Learn Spanish Now" LP? btw I can't stand that cliche plucked Bass sample used in the piece...Kraftwerk Rock..Yuck! The cool metal sheet sound at 4:55 is very cool however. Philip -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Pilgrim Subject: (kw) Proud Dad!!!! Date: 06 Jan 1997 20:36:08 -0800 My daughter (3years) visited with her grandmother last weekend. In conversation she said " Nana, you have a nice bathroom, a nice kitchen, a nice living room....but where is your studio?" Expect this in 2 years Florian :) Philip -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: (kw) Digitalizing Date: 06 Jan 1997 21:26:35 +0000 >I wouldn't take his interviews too serious, his claims are often >inconsistent. "Often" is an understatement !!! I could give you a list !!!!! -- Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk early synthezisers Date: 06 Jan 1997 22:08:25 +0000 >Did they use any ARP or other commercial synthesizers before '74 ? They used Farfisa organs and Farfisa Drum boxes some custom ring modulators and modulation filters, test oscilators and mostly the same type of equipmant Karlheinz Stchochausen used on his projects . -- Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk early synthezisers pt 2 Date: 06 Jan 1997 22:16:18 +0000 Synths that they used on later (post 74') recordings are Micro/ Multi Moogs, Arp Oddessey,EMS Rheberg filter banks ,Eventide Clockwerks FX ,Sennheiser /EMS Vocoders (Given to them by Mr Sennheiser himself (( these were $10,000 US)) and custom drum modules (designed after a company wich I can't remember right now) oh yeah and Poly Moogs (Synth not Keyboard)........... -- Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Pulver Subject: (kw) Re: Proud Dad!!!! Date: 06 Jan 1997 23:49:25 -0600 >My daughter (3years) visited with her grandmother last weekend. >In conversation she said " Nana, you have a nice bathroom, a nice >kitchen, a nice living room....but where is your studio?" >Expect this in 2 years Florian :) YES! Mark Pulver - http://shoga.wwa.com/~mpulver The "Son of The MIDI Wall" *** Internet Gear Wanted List is online! {home}/gwlist.html *** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) According to M.M+M.... Date: 06 Jan 1997 22:36:38 -0800 -(I, ROBOT)- Thank you ALL for the kind acknowledgements and compliments on my ARTWERK! Anything for a laugh! If anyone still didn't get it, please Email me so I can send my Digital Greeting Card! :] ROBOSMILEY Well, I just finished reading The BOOK, Man, Machine, and Music, copyright 1993, and I DID learn a couple of new things. F'r instance.... When Rebacca Allen was working with them on graphics for E.Cafe, it was the first time they'd worked with a woman, so, they decided to use a woman's voice for Musique Non-Stop. -('Doesn't say what kind of vocoder they used.)- Florian's g***fr**nd supplied the voice for "The Number you have reached has been disconnected". -(Sandhya Whaley, Luckiest Woman in the Universe!*choke*sob*! BTW: The baby was born before The BOOK was printed, so she'd be 3-4 by now. Ah- HA! NOT m*rr**d- atleast not at time of printing.*sigh*.)- Yes, Karl sang the original album version of The Telephone Call. I don't know about the Housephone/Der Telephon Anruf 12" mix. And, yes, they're supposedly vegetarians, and Ralf rides his bike up to 200km per day. -(*Hh*....*Hh*....*Hh*....*Hh*....)- I like the amusing report in AKTIVITAT about Florian riding his collapsable bike around before a concert, ringing his bell! Hee-Hee! Other than that, the Technopop Album is STILL a mystery, but, there is mention of "Original" Technopop version tunes in various discographies. OH! For a list of KRAFTWERK's early gear, check out http://www-users.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~hn/kraftwerk_gear.txt I hope it's correct.... So, what ELSE is new?? ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) (Fwd) "KW - das Heizkraftwerk" Date: 07 Jan 1997 08:18:07 +0000 According to Groove 43, p. 9, the discotheque "KW - das Kraftwerk" in Muenchen changed their name to "KW - das Heizkraftwerk", after Kraftwerk threatened to sue them otherwise. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk on MTV Date: 07 Jan 1997 08:38:02 +0000 Taken from the MTV (Europe) schedule for January: 16.01.97 20:00-21:00 (CET) "Star Trax: Die Fantastischen Vier" Videos from Thumb, Chuck D., Sens Unik, Kraftwerk and Stakka Bo (to be repeated 18.01.97, 10:00-11:00 (CET)) 30.01.97 20:00-21:00 (CET) "Star Trax: U96" Videos from Bjoerk, Bee Gees, Kraftwerk and Selig (to be repeated 30.01.97, 10:00-11:00 (CET)) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk early synthezisers pt 3 Date: 07 Jan 1997 03:33:12 +0000 Sorry to keep adding but I send when I remember them. 1991tour Studio Electronics Midi-Mini AMS Digital Delay Eventied Clockwerks Instant Flanger Quantec Room Symlator Roland M120 /modified Neve console (don't know wich model) @ Studio Atari Mega ST4 w/Cubase Akai S1000 x 2 or 3 Waldorf Microwave Synclavier II w/HD Rec option (HD Rec @ Studio) More to come .......I have to watch the tour video again...... -- Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Fischer Subject: (kw) Remix-Album Date: 07 Jan 1997 10:08:25 +0100 Statik: You=B4re sure about it? Maybe I got some false information= concerning Razormaid, can=B4t recall where I got it from, since it was in 1990, when I first heard the Razormaid-Mix of Depeche Mode=B4s "Little 15". Sorry about that... Peter SBK Software und Systeme GmbH | =20 Hollaendische Strasse 141 | E-mail: pfi@sbk-ks.de D-34127 Kassel | phone : 0049-(0)561-9899-701 Germany | Fax : 0049-(0)561-85161 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Correction: Kraftwerk on MTV Date: 07 Jan 1997 10:57:45 +0000 > (to be repeated 30.01.97, 10:00-11:00 (CET)) ARRGH!! Sorry, I've mistyped the date! In fact it will be repeated on February 1st, 10:00-11:00 (CET). Sorry again, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Depeche Subject: Re: (kw) Remix-Album Date: 07 Jan 1997 05:41:29 -0800 (PST) On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Peter Fischer wrote: > Haven=B4t seen this other Remix-Album, but all the "Razormaid"-Mixes are = made > by DJ Talla2XLC, DJ at the Techno-Club in the Dorian Gray/Frankfurt. He d= id What!?? I don't understand this sentence. Just what are you trying to say?? Razormaid Mixes are mixed by Joseph Watt and the late Art Maharg. Andrew in Fresno # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Peake Subject: (kw) Re: Proud Dad!!!! Date: 07 Jan 1997 00:01:26 -0000 >>My daughter (3years) visited with her grandmother last weekend. >>In conversation she said " Nana, you have a nice bathroom, a nice >>kitchen, a nice living room....but where is your studio?" Careful! How long will it be until she asks: Where's MY studio? ;-> EMPeake ________ Specifications: Source of Uncertainty/Stack Collision with Heap/Condemned to Freedom # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Conny_Fornb=E4ck?= Subject: (kw) Bowie on Kraftwerk Date: 07 Jan 1997 19:02:37 +-100 The latest issues of the eminent swedish musicmag "Pop" contains a long = interview with David Bowie. The interview is done by the skilled = journalist Jan Gradvall and is not only supposed to be a promotion for = Bowies new album (which BTW is supposed to be a jungle-album!), but it = also covers some parts of Bowies carreer. Of course Kraftwerk has to be = mentioned in such an interview. I think this part of the interview can = be of interest for the subscribers to this list, so I have made a = translation of this part. As my english is far from perfect you have to excuse me for the perhaps = poor translation. Since Bowie most certainly gave the interview in = English, Gradvall has translated his words into Swedish, which I in turn = have retranslated. So what you will read below is what Bowie said, but = most certainly not the way in which he said it. But I still think its = useful, he says a few funny things, and some things which I don't know = if I believe is true. Perhaps you guys have some opinions about this... Well here is the translated part. The copyright belongs to "Pop" and = Gradvall respektively. Errors in translation is my responsibility. "- - - Pop: Do you still have any contact with Kraftwerk? Bowie: Yes. Ralf and Florian are still working. They work a lot with = music for films, especially for German TV. They apparently put music to = many documentarys. I don't know if they do it because they have lost = their love for popmusic, or if it's only a way to get a regular source = of income. They are very exclusive and sparing with the rest of their = production. They are quite self-willed people. Pop: Do you remember the first time you met them? Bowie: I never forget the first time I met Florian. We started to talk = about music and he said: "For uz, there ist two kindz of emotion. There = ist warm emotion. And there ist cold emotion. We play cold emotion". = Then he asked: "David, what do you zink of our drummer?" It was the = first time I saw these kind of plates or cushions, the pre-stadium of = synth-drums. At the distance it looked like someone was sitting and = busied himself with small sticks. Florian saw my surpriced face and = said: "He is funny, yes? From the distance, it looks like he iz = knitting". They have this special way. By the way, they still live in = D=FCsseldorf. Pop: If you are around, do you visit them? Bowie: Yes. If you come to see these two guys they always take you out = for cream tea. Pop: Tea with cream? Bowie: Yes, they're really into tea with cream. I think it is a German = specialty. They always wants to go to some very traditional and old = fashioned caf=E9. They also drive around in carefully selected cars, a = Mercedes from 1952 or something like that. With sheepskin on the seats. = Everything must be in a certain manner. It's like if they were adopting = things from the fifties. Not kitchy things, but very ordinary = everyday-things. They live in that world. They are a very strange = couple. - - -" Bye /Conny Fornb=E4ck # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk on MTV Date: 07 Jan 1997 10:38:43 +0100 Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > Taken from the MTV (Europe) schedule for January: > > 16.01.97 > 20:00-21:00 (CET) > "Star Trax: Die Fantastischen Vier" > Videos from Thumb, Chuck D., Sens Unik, Kraftwerk and Stakka Bo > (to be repeated 18.01.97, 10:00-11:00 (CET)) > I was listening to DFV just yesterday and I thought: Hmm, these guys somehow plays machine oriented hip hop, they probably like Kraftwerk. The way they program their music, drums and so on is different from american hip hop in that they use the possiblities of their machines, which I find to be a german 'tradition'. I like them a lot... /Andreas Elin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: Re: (kw) Digitalizing Date: 07 Jan 1997 10:25:49 +0100 Klaus Zaepke wrote: > > > If I remember it correctly they said that the KlingKlang studio was > > completely digital then > > True, but there are other interviews where Huetter stated that they > were still using analogue gear. > I wouldn't take his interviews too serious, his claims are often > inconsistent. > What he probably meant is that they now use only digital effect units, digital storage and so on. The use of analogue synthesizers has probably to do with the specific sound of this type of gear. They probably sample these synthesizers and the postprocessing of the sampled sounds is probably digital. Though I'm kind of into the music gear market I still haven't heard of any studio whatsoever which is completely digital, that is no analogue signals are present and signals are sent in discrete bits over lines. Most gear - even the most expensive - have not digital outputs. And as Klaus mention - Ralf Hutter often seems to say what he finds to be cool for the moment and doesn't care if it's true or not. /Andreas Elin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: (kw) Lost in cyberspace! Date: 07 Jan 1997 15:17:58 +0100 Hi! I've posted some mails to the mailing list, but some of them seems to just disappear and never show up on the list. Have somebody else this experience? /Andreas Elin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) Remix-Album Date: 07 Jan 1997 19:58:35 +0100 At 10:08 7-01-97 +0100, you wrote: >Statik: You=B4re sure about it? Maybe I got some false information= concerning >Razormaid, can=B4t recall where I got it from, since it was in 1990, when I >first heard the Razormaid-Mix of Depeche Mode=B4s "Little 15". >Sorry about that... > >Peter > Yes, i am very sure (BTW, that Little 15 remix was a half-legal remix done by the Bogus Brothers. They did did a (hard to find) remix of Halo as well). I have several of the original Razormaid! issues (the Mix Medley was on Gridlock! btw instead of Razormaid!, but they are the same two guys) and they all state Art Maharg or Joseph Watt. Laterz! Johan. -- ****************************************************************************= **** * Statik is Here! Making Remixes and Megamixes is my pride & joy! :) = * * e-mail: 0weterings01@lelystad.flnet.nl = * * web-page: http://www.flnet.nl/~0weterings01 (a bit under construction) = * ****************************************************************************= **** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremy Rotsztain Subject: (kw) Niketown Date: 07 Jan 1997 15:49:13 -0500 I should tell a story. I went to NYC during this past christmas vacation. One of the places that my parents insisted on seeing was nike town, a 5 floor shoe store located on the expensive fifth avenue. Each floor sold shoes and clothing for a different sport. It was quite insane. Every fifteen minutes, all of the lights in the store would dim down and a sceen would come out of nowhere and play a movie. The first movie I saw contained numerous sports clips, none of which were interesting. The second movie was quite the same, except it had a familiar soundtrack. I had to think about it for a second, but then I realized that it was Trans Europe Express! I found that to bee quite odd. Jeremy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Pilgrim Subject: [Fwd: Re: (kw) Digitalizing] Date: 07 Jan 1997 18:42:09 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4EF120B31431 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca --------------4EF120B31431 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Message-ID: <32D1D846.330C@atcon.com> Organization: Lab Audio Works X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thilo Mezger wrote: > what they meant by digitalizing? What do you think they meant by this? >From my understanding, Kraftwerk are concerned more about the sound than the source. They will use analogue or digital sources...whatever is required. It is generally felt that the man-machine interfaces on many analogue synths are more intuitive and easier to use however digital synths excel in stability of pitch and convenience. There is also a feeling that analogue synths are "warm" sounding and digital synths are "cold". I think kraftwerk were just moving analogue sounds into the digital domain for convenience during live performance. Digital synths excell in their ability to be automated and interfaced with others. btw Waldorf of Germany have a synth which is a perfect blend of both worlds. It is called "the pulse". Philip -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca --------------4EF120B31431-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Morrell" Subject: (kw) looking for Autobahn Date: 07 Jan 1997 21:37:45 -0500 I've been looking for years for the CD version of Autobahn. I noticed that cdeurope.com had several listings ranging from about $14 to about $40. Could anyone offer advice on whether any of these releases are better than any others? Are there any other sources for Kraftwerk discs in the US? Dave Morrell dmorrell@oeonline.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Depeche Subject: Re: (kw) Remix-Album Date: 07 Jan 1997 19:23:27 -0800 (PST) On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Statik wrote: > Yes, i am very sure (BTW, that Little 15 remix was a half-legal remix done > by the Bogus Brothers. They did did a (hard to find) remix of Halo as well). The Halo mix by the Bogus Brothers can be found on the Fifth strike and The Second Strike. > Gridlock! btw instead of Razormaid!, but they are the same two guys) and > they all state Art Maharg or Joseph Watt. All of the following are different "lines" of CD's put out by Razormaid: Cycle/Sector This Is Only A Test! Seismic Sound Razormaid! How Slow Can You Go? Transit Gridlock Also included are several box Sets. Andrew in Fresno # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:16:31 +0100 Subject: (kw) fans like Hutter >outputs. And as Klaus mention - Ralf Hutter often seems to say what he >finds to be cool for the moment and doesn't care if it's true or not. this remember me of certain persons I and Klaus had a talk about... :-) not badmouthing them: being compared to Ralf is always a compliment... :-))) - ----------------------------- personal home page http://users.iol.it/lbo reVision - musica e cultura non necessariamente convenzionale http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3041 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Kraftwerk on MTV Date: 08 Jan 1997 08:16:21 +0100 At 08:38 07/01/97 +0000, you wrote: > >Taken from the MTV (Europe) schedule for January: somebody know which frequencies do they use in Italy? or where I can find them, say a www page? is MTV-E a pay tv? thanks, L. personal home page http://users.iol.it/lbo reVision - musica e cultura non necessariamente convenzionale http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3041 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. s must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Jackson Subject: (kw) memories Date: 08 Jan 1997 21:15:12 +1100 (EST) hi there, just a memory from Kraftwerk's CW tour to Melbourne (where I sat in on a soundcheck!). Ralf and Florain were being interviewed on a local public radio station and the interviewer asked "So guys, er... how do you go about recording?" In an instant the answer from Ralph - "We just press ze red button" _---_ Philip Jackson ()_() ? V. .V Melbourne |. .| ! \ / Australia \ / o pdj@mpx.com.au o # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: Re: (kw) Digitalizing Date: 08 Jan 1997 17:39:38 +0000 Thilo Mezger was saying: >the latest technical machines). That's why I always thought that the new >album would be another crispy clear digital album continueing the >tradition from Electric Cafe and The Mix. But now KW are cooperating with >Doepfer creating new analogue gear... Could this mean that the new album >will have more organic analogue sounds again?! Yeah, but the Doepfer A-100 is a new modular (not an old one, or a remake of an old one). It's been designed and built recently. Incidentally, I saw a picture of their MIDI analogue sequencer. If it is anything to go by, then the A-100 modular possibly has some element of digital control in it anyway. > Or have I misunderstood >what they meant by digitalizing? What do you think they meant by this? Hmm, it's hard to say exactly what they meant. Perhaps only the mixing desks and recorders have been moved to digital. I personally find it quite silly to insist on either an all-analogue or all-digital setup. -- /=====================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | |Irish Electroacoustic Music Association | JarreVangelisTomitaCarlos | |Synthesizer Freak | |ErasurePinhasTangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.net/customers/Alliance)| \=====================================================================/ "Eek, Eek, Wibble Hatstand, my old man's a monkey" -- Blackadder Goes Forth # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Pilgrim Subject: (kw) KW ers in ALABAMA? Date: 08 Jan 1997 21:21:10 -0800 I am trying to get a hold of this guy: jerry wasley 205 967 2492 4121 cloverleaf dr birmingham, AL 35243 He shipped my good friend Stefan Gruhl of Germany a CS-80 that was faulty. Stefan is a very kind, honest and trust worthy person...and a good musician too! Jerry "misled" Stefan about the synths condition when setting a price. Stefan paid highly for the synth and shipping. In converstions with Jerry, he had agreed to split the $600 repair cost with Stefan. He has not sent money to Stefan and programmed his phone to ignore Stefan's number. I have been trying to contact Jerry for two days in a row , only to get an answering machine. Now his phone is programmed to ignore my number (real sweet guy!). I will continue to call him from other phones however is there anyone who could "knock on his door" to remind him of his duty? All help is most welcome, even a phone call. Please ask him to contact me at the address below. thanks again Philip -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Emil Schult exhibition Date: 09 Jan 1997 13:09:06 +0100 (NFT) An exhibition of works from Emil Schult opens next Wednesday in Duesseldorf. I believe that it is at the Galerie Kontraste, but I'm not sure. Has anyone more information about the nature of that exhibition? (Maybe there is some coverage in the local media? (Ueberblick, Prinz, RP etc.)) Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thilo Mezger Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com again Date: 09 Jan 1997 04:05:18 +0100 (MET) Hello! Did anybody else notice that www.kraftwerk.com has changed?! You have to look at the source code to see the changes but I'm pretty sure the comment about the different browsers wasn't there when I last checked it. Additionally, the "last-modified"-header is 01-Jan-97. Obviously, there is someone maintaining the page and hopefully it won't end up like so many other "under construction"-pages. Cheers! Thilo _________ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ Thilo.Mezger@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de |___ ___| | |_| | | | | | / _ \ http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~ua5m/ | | | _ | | | | |___ ( (_) ) Stop Pollution - Create Eevolution |_| |_| |_| |_| |____| \___/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Date: 09 Jan 1997 19:59:36 +0100 (NFT) Just for the record: The January issue of the WOM Journal reports that a new Kraftwerk album is scheduled "for 1997". Well... Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "CHIRIATTI CLAUDIO" Subject: (kw) Synthesizers ? Date: 10 Jan 1997 20:32:22 MET Does anyone on the list know if Kraftwerk ever used a DX 7(II) synth or any other FM related synthesizers in their setup. Thanks in advance Claudio Claudio G. Chiriatti e-mail:chir3301@uni-trier.de Civilization is the enemy of humanity Sturm und Klang fuer jedermann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com updated! Date: 10 Jan 1997 20:50:15 +0100 hello, you'll remember about a robot I wrote about in this list that track changes in web pages. this is a message I just received: ============= START QUOTE: Reply-to: URL-minder-admin@netmind.com This message is NEVER sent unsolicited. The URL-minder has determined that the Web page at the following URL: http://www.kraftwerk.com has changed again. You are receiving this message because you signed up to be notified when this Web page changes. You may want to check this page to see what the changes are. A note from our sponsor: ============= END QUOTE so go there and see! sorry, but I can't tell what the change has been. personal home page http://users.iol.it/lbo reVision - musica e cultura non necessariamente convenzionale http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3041 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kevin Busby Subject: (kw) Schneider on Schneider Date: 10 Jan 1997 17:00:21 +0000 (GMT) Have struggled to page 12 of the new issue of 'The Wire' magazine. There's an article on Dusseldorf band 'Weekend'. Bassist Stefan Schneider (apparently no relation!) is interviewed:- 'I went to the States two years ago, and people always asked: "You're from Dusseldorf, you know Kraftwerk?" Well, I see them here in the coffee shop around the corner sometimes, so we know about this history, but it's not our goal to resume or pursue this tradition.' Kevin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: Re: (kw) Synthesizers ? Date: 10 Jan 1997 20:27:40 +0000 CHIRIATTI CLAUDIO was saying: >Does anyone on the list know if Kraftwerk ever used a DX 7(II) synth or >any other FM related synthesizers in their setup. Yes, I'm almost certain of it. The Mix, in particular, as well as Electric Cafe, contains damn near all the famous cheezy DX7 presets! -- /=====================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | |Irish Electroacoustic Music Association | JarreVangelisTomitaCarlos | |Synthesizer Freak | |ErasurePinhasTangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.net/customers/Alliance)| \=====================================================================/ "Recursion : see Recursion" # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) Synthesizers ? Date: 10 Jan 1997 19:34:54 -0500 (EST) >>Does anyone on the list know if Kraftwerk ever used a DX 7(II) synth or >>any other FM related synthesizers in their setup. > >Yes, I'm almost certain of it. The Mix, in particular, as well as Electric >Cafe, contains damn near all the famous cheezy DX7 presets! Yup, more specifically, I believe a DX7 preset of a bell sound patch was used to create the lead bell melody during "Autobahn" on 'The Mix'. This bell sound can be heard in the track between the times of 2:20 and 2:42. The tune was originally played on Florian's flute in the original 1975 version of the song. I may be a big fan of 'The Mix' and all, but it's just not the same.. :O) Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill mbarnhil@email.gc.cuny.edu "Wir fahr'n fahr'n fahr'n auf der Autobahn..." P.S. - Cutting the song down to less than half it's original length just isn't the same either!! :O) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: (kw) Synthesizers ? Date: 11 Jan 1997 01:43:34 +0000 >Does anyone on the list know if Kraftwerk ever used a DX 7(II) synth or >any other FM related synthesizers in their setup. The first model of the Syclavier was a DX7-esqe synth ,all it could do was FM synthesis.It did not have any sampling capabilities until much later .This is probably what you heard. There are also using a Waldorf Microwave wich also has many of the original "DX" bell sounds in it. -- Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Sunday Times on Kraftwerk Date: 11 Jan 1997 15:35:13 +0000 Taken from rec.music.progressive: > In an article ("The Sunday Times", Culture section, p. 10-11) on what > 1997 might hold for pop music, Andrew Smith writes: > > "Other exotic whispers concern the arrival of a new Kraftwerk album -- > they are now being recognised as second in influence only to the Beatles > -- though people have been predicting this since 1986, more in hope than > expectation." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "deckard" Subject: (kw) klingklang@kraftwerk.com reply !!!!! Date: 10 Jan 1997 15:46:59 +0100 Hello all, This morning I sent an e-mail to klingklang@kraftwerk.com to know if this address exists... And now I recive a reply from Andreas Kuckartz!!! This is the reply to my mail: > are there anybody? No. This is the information of e-mail: Return-Path: 100333.626@compuserve.com Received: from arl-img-1.compuserve.com (arl-img-1.compuserve.com [149.174.217.131]) by arrakis.es (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA08273 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 13:32:36 +0100 (MET) Received: by arl-img-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id HAA12243; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 07:20:40 -0500 Message-ID: <199701110720_MC1-E7C-C717@compuserve.com> X-UIDL: 8ac314354baf668642994cf1a0f61d42 --- Return-Path: 100333.626@compuserve.com Received: from arl-img-1.compuserve.com (arl-img-1.compuserve.com [149.174.217.131]) by arrakis.es (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA08273 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 13:32:36 +0100 (MET) Received: by arl-img-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id HAA12243; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 07:20:40 -0500 Message-ID: <199701110720_MC1-E7C-C717@compuserve.com> X-UIDL: 8ac314354baf668642994cf1a0f61d42 > are there anybody? No. Regards. Rafa from Spain. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ok <101451.3333@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) Technos Axcel Resynthesizer Date: 11 Jan 1997 13:44:27 EST Hy to all, does anybody know about the Technos Axcel Resynthesizer and if Kraftwerk did use this one? In the late 80ies (about '88 or '89) there was a small synth shop in munich, that was the exclusive reseller of this product. I visited this shop and got a demonstration of this fascinating re -synthesizer. The shop owner mentioned, that Jean Michel Jarre and Tangerine Dream would own this machine and of course Kraftwerk bought one of these machines too. Does anyone have further knowledge about this synth or if there are any known records that used this machine extensivly. regards Oliver # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "deckard" Subject: (kw) Another reply from Andreas Kuckartz... Date: 10 Jan 1997 21:14:25 +0100 Hi all Another reply from Andreas Kuckartz: MY QUESTION: > When will you finally actualize my favourite web page? ANDREAS REPLY: Visit the web site every 7 hours, look on the screen for at least half an hour and after a few weeks you will notice that the site is really changing very often. Andreas What do you think about this...? It´s a joke? What does he want to say really? = - 0 Regards. Rafa from Spain. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) re: another reply from Andreas Kuckartz Date: 11 Jan 1997 13:27:56 -0800 -(I, ROBOT)- http://www.kraftwerk.com Andreas Kuckartz sez: "Visit the web site every 7 hours, look at the screen for atleast half an hour and after a few weeks you'll notice that the site is really changing very often." *snicker* yeah, right. It makes a nice Screen Saver! Cute, REAL cute. Like, DUH, Ralf & Florian! If I stare at it for half an hour, I'll go totally insane and EAT the MONITOR! Radiation and all!*CHOMP*CRUNCH*! Mm-MM! *YUM-YUM-YUMMY*! It IS hypnotik. Confession: I spent New Years Eve WERKing on the Computer. So, when Mitternacht came 'round, I put up my fave KW picture and KISSED the Screen!*SMACK*! I couldn't resist.... %] ROBOGOOFY # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jef Planet Subject: Re: (kw) Technos Axcel Resynthesizer Date: 11 Jan 1997 16:49:49 -0500 At 13:44 11/01/97 EST, you wrote: >Hy to all, > >does anybody know about the Technos Axcel Resynthesizer and if Kraftwerk >did use this one? >In the late 80ies (about '88 or '89) there was a small synth shop in >munich, that was the exclusive reseller of this product. I visited this >shop and got a demonstration of this fascinating re -synthesizer. The >shop owner mentioned, that Jean Michel Jarre and Tangerine Dream would >own this machine and of course Kraftwerk bought one of these machines too. > >Does anyone have further knowledge about this synth or if there are any >known records that used this machine extensivly. > > >regards > > >Oliver Yes indeed, technos is a small company from Quebec city (not far from Montreal) and was developed by a teatcher at quebec city's laval university (Nil Parent) if i remember well it comes as a brain, a screen but no keyboard. it converts samples into sinewaves and it divides the sound in harmonics so it makes it simple if for example you sample a piano to take away the harmonic(s) of the hammer or boost other that you like. It also lets you play a sample with the parameters of others making it sound pretty weird but interesting. Nil told me it was used here in some publicity , but i don't remember a single one. I know for sure that Stevie Wonder owns one whitch is kinda funny because the axcel is a very visual device. Knowing that i'm a big kw fan he would have told me if they had one...but last time i saw him was a few years ago, so who knows! I know for a fact that there are a few units collecting dust in studios around Montreal (since it's not a preset based machine it needs a few hours of understanding! :> ). So if any of you guys are interested in one, drop me an e-mail, so i can manage to get it for you. But i must warn you, it is quite an unfriendly machine but it sounds.....wow! see ya ....................Jef Planet # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Another reply from Andreas Kuckartz... Date: 12 Jan 1997 10:35:17 +0100 >What do you think about this...? It=B4s a joke? What does he want to say >really?=20 yes, it's a joke - and to me it says the guy is a bit rude. personal home page http://users.iol.it/lbo reVision - musica e cultura non necessariamente convenzionale http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3041 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Kraftwerk Online Library" Date: 12 Jan 1997 12:27:54 +0000 T-Online offers their customers 1 MB of free WWW space, and since I've had no better idea how to use my personal MB, I've put up some pages which I've named "Kraftwerk Online Library", a list of my personal collection of Kraftwerk press articles. You will find mainly bibliographic data there, but some of the articles are already available online (mostly English and German articles). The URL is http://home.t-online.de/home/Zaepke/kraftwer.htm Additions, corrections and any other comments are very welcome. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: Re: (kw) klingklang@kraftwerk.com reply !!!!! Date: 11 Jan 1997 22:23:45 +0000 deckard was saying: >This morning I sent an e-mail to klingklang@kraftwerk.com to know if this >address exists... >And now I recive a reply from Andreas Kuckartz!!! Can someone remind me again.... who is Kuckartz ? -- /=====================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | |Irish Electroacoustic Music Association | JarreVangelisTomitaCarlos | |Synthesizer Freak | |ErasurePinhasTangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.net/customers/Alliance)| \=====================================================================/ "Profanity is the crutch of the inarticulate mot**rf**c*er" - Anon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) Another reply from Andreas Kuckartz... Date: 12 Jan 1997 18:49:00 +0100 At 21:14 10-01-97 +0100, you wrote: >Hi all > >Another reply from Andreas Kuckartz: > >----------------------------------------------------------- >MY QUESTION: >> When will you finally actualize my favourite web page? > >ANDREAS REPLY: >Visit the web site every 7 hours, look on the screen for at least half an >hour >and after a few weeks you will notice that the site is really changing very >often. > >Andreas >--------------------------------------------------------- > > >What do you think about this...? It=B4s a joke? What does he want to say >really?=20 I think he's a practical joker. Just keep staring at that eminating antenna and.. yes! It's changing!!!! Johan. -- ****************************************************************************= **** * Statik is Here! Making Remixes and Megamixes is my pride & joy! :) = * * e-mail: 0weterings01@lelystad.flnet.nl = * * web-page: http://www.flnet.nl/~0weterings01 (a bit under construction) = * ****************************************************************************= **** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "deckard" Subject: (kw) ralf@florian Date: 11 Jan 1997 22:03:55 +0100 Hello all, Brendan Heading was asking: > Can someone remind me again.... who is Kuckartz ? Andreas Kuckartz is the person that has created this page --> www.kraftwerk.com. You can know his humour sense contacting with him in klingklang@kraftwerk.com. Tomorrow I wrote two e-mails to ralf@kraftwerk.com and to florian@kraftwerk.com... and today I not have recived reply from them, but neither I have recived typical error messages saying that those address don´t exist. :-) Regards from Spain. RAFA. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Pilgrim Subject: (kw) [Fwd: Re: Technos Axcel Resynthesizer?] Date: 11 Jan 1997 20:07:30 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------2FED21976B47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca --------------2FED21976B47 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Received: from centaure.worldnet.net (centaure.worldnet.net [194.2.128.249]) by loki.atcon.com (8.8.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA19308 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 17:31:30 -0400 (AST) Received: from paris27-110.paris.worldnet.fr (paris27-112.paris.worldnet.fr [194.206.163.112]) by centaure.worldnet.net (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA12155 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 22:31:08 +0100 Message-Id: <199701112131.WAA12155@centaure.worldnet.net> X-Sender: fournel@worldnet.fr X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-UIDL: 9f377c2d478bd02e4bbebc0e7cd2dafd X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 Technos Axcel Synthesizer is a "research" synthesizer. It works with additive synthesis but with a lot of harmonics. Yes, JMJ did work with it at this time (late 80's). Nicolas. At 17:22 11/01/1997 -0800, you wrote: >Hi all, > >Something interesting from the Kraftwerk list. Any insight? > >does anybody know about the Technos Axcel Resynthesizer ? >In the late 80ies (about '88 or '89) there was a small synth shop in >munich, that was the exclusive reseller of this product. I visited this >shop and got a demonstration of this fascinating re -synthesizer. The >shop owner mentioned, that Jean Michel Jarre and Tangerine Dream would >own this machine and of course Kraftwerk bought one of these machines too. > >Philip >-- >Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works >5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing >Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting >Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair >B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing > - Hardware/Software Development >Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 >Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 > >Home: pilgrim@atcon.com >Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca > > > > SYNOPTIC 26 bis bvd Paul Vaillant Couturier 93100 Montreuil FRANCE Tel: (+33) 01.48.70.16.63 email: fournel@worldnet.fr http://www.synoptic.net --------------2FED21976B47-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DHOLTON@derwent.co.uk Date: 13 Jan 1997 09:40:08 +0000 New Musical Express "The rumours of Kraftwerk's imminent return to the fray are reaching fever-pitch - expect an announcement on the seminal elctronic pioneer's next LP very soon.In the meantime ,though, the band are believed to be behind a new Internet page at http://www.Kraftwerk.com/kingklang.wav.Among the admittedly tiny contents is a sneak four second preview of new material..." There's definitley a spelling mistake in there!!! Dave Holton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kenneth Wang Subject: (kw) Karl Bartos/The Mix Date: 12 Jan 1997 22:29:37 -0800 Does anyone else find it odd that Karl Bartos is not mentioned anywhere in The Mix? Although he was not involved in the assembly of this package, he did cowrite many of the songs included. Crediting all songwriting simply to Kraftwerk is not fair to Bartos, as this implies that Ralf, Florian, and newcomer Fritz did the songwriting. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "M. K." Subject: (kw) Hello from new member Date: 13 Jan 1997 16:41:48 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BC0170.ABA95EE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is just a short note of introduction. My name is Mitchell Kornelis. I live in N.W. Washington, USA. I am 27, a elementary school teacher and a big fan of Kraftwerk and other electronic bands since about '87. I look forward to joining in the discussion. 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(OK, maybe I'll cut that .sig of mine down sometime too;) Gerade aus! -- _______________________________________________ E M A N U E L M A I R // All animals are equal, but some animals are | mair@medstud.gu.se \\ // more equal than others - Orwell, Animal Farm| GSM:+46-(0)70-7819014 \X/ SYSTEM ALERT #0.998 System Error:"Intel Inside"| http://medstud.gu.se/~mair SYSTEM ALERT #2 Virus Detected: "Windows 95" | |______Team AMIGA_____________________/boing\__________/bumm\_______/tschak # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larry LaCost" Subject: (kw) WWW.KlingKlang.COM Date: 14 Jan 1997 10:04:41 UT Has anyone checked out WWW.KlingKlang.COM? I wonder if this will be Kraftwerk's next domain name victim... >>Kraftwerk have sued the MACup publishing company because of the continuing use of the Internet domainnames "kraftwerk.de" and "kraftwerk.com", while "Kraftwerk" is a registered trademark by Ralf Huetter and Florian Schneider.>> # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J. Reis" Subject: (kw) New member Date: 14 Jan 1997 13:34:13 GMT Hello everyone! My name is Joao Reis and I am a Kraftwerk fan from Coimbra, Portugal. My email is genio@mail.telepac.pt I am looking forward to join the discussion. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mats Kadmark Subject: (kw) New member+question Date: 14 Jan 1997 12:37:23 MET Hello! I'm 24(male), from Sweden and bought my first Kraftwerk record when I was about 10 (i.e. early 80's). I've got a Kraftwerk-bootleg (Toccata Electronica), with a song: 'Zehn kleine Negerlein' - is that really a Kraftwerk song?, doesnŠ't really sound like it! E-mail: mats.kadmark@silver.stat.gu.se # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thilo Mezger Subject: Re: (kw) WWW.KlingKlang.COM Date: 15 Jan 1997 00:13:14 +0100 (MET) On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Larry LaCost wrote: > I wonder if this will be Kraftwerk's next domain name victim... > > >>Kraftwerk have sued the MACup publishing company because of the > continuing use of the Internet domainnames "kraftwerk.de" and > "kraftwerk.com", while "Kraftwerk" is a registered trademark by Ralf I'm not a lawyer but "Kraftwerk" is a pretty ordinary German word for "power-station". And I'm not familiar with copyright laws or registered trademarks but what would happen if there was a company called "swimming-pool" but someone else had reserved www.swimming-pool.com before? I don't think that there is a right for a certain domainname especially when it's a common noun. But Ralf & Florian are said to be very wealthy... :-) Just becoming philosophical round midnight... Thilo _________ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ Thilo.Mezger@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de |___ ___| | |_| | | | | | / _ \ http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~ua5m/ | | | _ | | | | |___ ( (_) ) Stop Pollution - Create Eevolution |_| |_| |_| |_| |____| \___/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) www.klingklang.com and .de Date: 15 Jan 1997 02:11:13 +0100 inspired by a mex of this list, I gave a try with www.klingklang.com. it works and it's (if I'm not wrong) of a Usa firm that makes design lamps, little scultures and so on (I have disabled the images to go faster). while I was there, I give a try to www.klingklang.de too. again it worked. it seem to be a german musical net-zine, and even cute, too, but it was in german and I couldn't understand contents very much. maybe the german friends of the list could go there and look better. I hope nobody is listening us: I don't like all this (c) fever. sure I'm a fan of K, but as someone else said, Kraftwerk is even just a plain word, other than being the group name. I think you should play fair on this: if you are not plagiarized, then first come first served. and after all, I don't see the reason to make too much noise if somebody "steal" a name that should be of a site maintained by a guy with a very questionable humor and containing just two gif. personal home page http://users.iol.it/lbo reVision - musica e cultura non necessariamente convenzionale http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3041 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paulo Mouat Subject: (kw) Plagiarisms Date: 15 Jan 1997 01:34:16 +0100 > I hope nobody is listening us: I don't like all this (c) fever. sure > I'm a fan of K, but as someone else said, Kraftwerk is even just a > plain word, other than being the group name. It is just a plain word, sure, but it is also a trademark or established copyright, and once it becomes officially registered, it is bound by the copyright holders. Many trademarks and copyrights all around the world are just plain words or combinations thereof. Think of Apple, for instance. This does not grant the right, under the relative commonality of the word, to freely use it as an identifier for a commercial product. I think Kraftwerk had the right to sue the company using their name, and rightfully did so. At the very least, it proves that Ralf & Florian are still aware of the potential use of the word (maybe to release one more record? ;-) It may happen, though, that a copyright is registered only in one country or region of the world. Everybody outside this area is free to use the name and even register it. Regards. -- __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, |___| mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sean Caszatt Subject: (kw) New to the Kraftwerk List Date: 14 Jan 1997 22:07:40 -0500 Hello! I've been a Kraftwerk fan since 1981. I bought the green vinyl 45 for "Pocket Calculator" to break a $20.00 bill so I could play videogames. I've been hooked ever since! (I was 13 at the time. And, yes, I still have that single, in the sleeve.) It will be nice to communicate with other fans about their music. (And, hopefully, learn what's going on with the band themselves!) I'm not a musician but I've always appreciated the influence Kraftwerk have had on other artists and styles of pop music. Looking forward to further communications... Sean Caszatt http://www3.pgh.net/~downstat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Luther Welsh Subject: Re: (kw) ralf@florian Date: 14 Jan 1997 20:18:44 -0800 "deckard" wrote: >Tomorrow I wrote two e-mails to ralf@kraftwerk.com and to=20 >florian@kraftwerk.com... and today I not have recived reply from them, >but neither I have recived typical error messages saying that those >address don=B4t exist. :-) I suspect that there is a single POP account serving all email to kraftwerk.com Then there is probably a .forward passing everything along to 100333.626@compuserve.com. If you want to tweek his nose, try deckard@kraftwerk.com. I doubt it will bounce. --Luke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Lazlo Nibble" Subject: (kw) Plagiarisms Date: 14 Jan 1997 21:57:06 -0700 (MST) > Many trademarks and copyrights all around the world are just plain words > or combinations thereof. Think of Apple, for instance. This does not > grant the right, under the relative commonality of the word, to freely > use it as an identifier for a commercial product. I think Kraftwerk had > the right to sue the company using their name, and rightfully did so. Under US trademark law, a trademark only prevents others from using a name if that use is likely to cause confusion in the marketplace -- in other words, nobody else can start a computer company named "Apple", and they probably can't start a software company called "Apple", but nothing's preventing them from starting a restaurant or a furniture company called "Apple". And Apple Computers can't start a record label by that name, because the Beatles own the trademark to that name in that market. The Internet's domain naming scheme also complicates things, because you can't tell just by looking at the domain name "apple.com" whether it means the computer company or the record label or the lawn care firm -- and *all* of them have a legal right to use the name, at least in the US. -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Farki Subject: (kw) First YAMO single ! Date: 15 Jan 1997 08:15:23 +0100 Hi ! The first YAMO single - Stereomatic - released on this week in Germany (Odeon/EMI Electrola). Has anybody got more information ? I can't imagine what kind of music Fluer made, because he didn't write, or co-write song in KraftWerk. - Farki - # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "deckard" Subject: (kw) Mixmater Morris Date: 14 Jan 1997 08:59:29 +0100 Hi, This morning I recived this mail from Mixmaster Morris. i met one of the klingklang engineers in munich he said they wanted to tour and everyone said you must make an lp as well so theres one coming but dont hold your breath morris ----------------- A SITE FOR SORE EARS - The Mixmaster Morris Homepage http://iuma.southern.com/MMM/homepage.html ---------------- Saludos. RAFA. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larry LaCost" Subject: (kw) Re: Plagiarisms & Trademarks Date: 15 Jan 1997 10:18:32 UT >>>The Internet's domain naming scheme also complicates things, because you can't tell just by looking at the domain name "apple.com" whether it means the computer company or the record label or the lawn care firm -- and *all* of them have a legal right to use the name, at least in the US.>>> Trademark and trade name owners can extend their rights by registering their marks and names as components of Internet domain names. Network Solutions Inc. (NSI) in Herndon, Virginia, through its InterNIC Registration Services, handles Internet domain name registrations and challenges. A private organization, NSI is funded in part by the National Science Foundation through Congressional appropriation. In a domain name challenge, NSI takes priority rights into account, determining the first use date of the domain name as of the Internet activation date. If this date is not prior to the challenger's trademark first use date or the effective date of its registration, NSI requests proof of the domain name holder's rights by a certified copy of a foreign or federal registration. The registration must be in full force and effect, and the registered mark must be identical to the domain name. If it cannot provide evidence of its own registration within thirty days, NSI will assist the domain name owner with selection of a new domain name and will allow it to maintain both names simultaneously for up to ninety days to allow for an orderly transition. If the domain name was in use prior to the earlier of the claimant's first use date or effective date of its registration, or if the challenge is based on rights other than a federal registration, applicant is allowed to continue using the contested name unless or until a court order or arbitrator's judgment to the contrary is received. NSI attempts to maintain a position of neutrality in such disputes, but the tilt is in favor of the federal registrant-challenger unless the domain name owner has its own registration. NSI provides the registrant with what are essentially universal trademark rights, as though the registered mark were famous and entitled to protection under the new Dilution Act. So long as the registered mark is identical to the domain name, NSI accepts this without more and does not attempt to apply anything resembling the Lanham Act likelihood of confusion test. Thus, the goods or services may be completely unrelated, there may be no likelihood of confusion, and the registrant, whether or not its trademark is famous, obtains what amounts to a de facto determination of dilution. If the domain name holder can produce its own trademark registration, however, it can continue to use the domain name if it indemnifies NSI from liability relating to the registration or use of the name. It must post a bond to cover any damages sought by the challenger or, if there is no specific amount, in an amount NSI deems reasonable. With such an agreement and the posting of a bond, NSI may place the domain name in ``hold'' status pending resolution. Trademark owners outside the United States are entitled to the same procedures available to domestic trademark owners once they have their registrations certified by the Patent and Trademark Office. In MTV v. Curry, __ F. Supp. __ (S.D.N.Y. 1994) , MTV sued a former employee for trademark infringement because he had used ``mtv.com'' in connection with his new Internet consulting business. The defendant maintained that since he had registered ``mtv.com'' with the Internet, it was his property. However, the case settled before a decision on the merits. In a pre-trial motion decision, however, the court observed that an Internet address could be valuable. Larry R. LaCost Jr. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Luca Dassi Subject: (kw) Shimmering Neon Lights (12") Date: 15 Jan 1997 16:04:19 +0100 I found a "Neon Lights" 12" printed on green *fluorescent* vinyl (I don't know if it's the correct word, I mean it glows in the dark just like a wristwatch hand). So bad it's a little scratched...but it's surely wonderful! I think I'll put it in a frame and hang it on the wall. Question : Does anybody know if this record has some commercial value? BTW : A few weeks ago, everyone in the list was raving about January, 29 (the K-day). Is there any official or unofficial confirmation or denial? (As a KW fan, I'm *very* accustomed to hoping for the best and expecting the worst) Peace, Luca Dassi Italy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Peter Fischer Subject: (kw) Model-Remake Date: 15 Jan 1997 10:01:33 +0100 Hi there! Watched VIVA yesterday and heard a quite familiar melody, but sounding very different... There was a group playing "Das Model" in (cheap) dancefloor style, like DJ Bobo or Mr. President *blergh*. Haven=B4t seen the name of the group as I switched it off... It made me= angry! What a sacrilege! Peter SBK Software und Systeme GmbH | =20 Hollaendische Strasse 141 | E-mail: pfi@sbk-ks.de D-34127 Kassel | phone : 0049-(0)561-9899-701 Germany | Fax : 0049-(0)561-85161 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mats Kadmark Subject: (kw) www.klingklang.de Date: 15 Jan 1997 15:05:27 MET Hello! www.klingklang.de is a german rock club, where they have live concerts, in Wilhelmshaven. Has nothing to do with Kraftwerk. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Elin Subject: Re: (kw) Shimmering Neon Lights (12") Date: 15 Jan 1997 16:34:25 +0100 Luca Dassi wrote: > > I found a "Neon Lights" 12" printed on green *fluorescent* vinyl (I > don't know if it's the correct word, I mean it glows in the dark just > like a wristwatch hand). So bad it's a little scratched...but it's > surely wonderful! I think I'll put it in a frame and hang it on the > wall. > Question : Does anybody know if this record has some commercial value? Believe me, it sure does! Last time I saw this record it costed 35 USD (Sweden). I remember that I had a teacher 15 years ago who also was a discjockey, he claimed that he had the Man-Machine album on green fluorescent vinyl. If this is true, I cannot say. /Andreas Elin # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) Shimmering Neon Lights (12") Date: 15 Jan 1997 19:57:14 +0100 At 16:04 15-01-97 +0100, Luca Dassi wrote: >I found a "Neon Lights" 12" printed on green *fluorescent* vinyl (I >don't know if it's the correct word, I mean it glows in the dark just >like a wristwatch hand). So bad it's a little scratched...but it's >surely wonderful! I think I'll put it in a frame and hang it on the >wall. >Question : Does anybody know if this record has some commercial value? > Yes, it does. The Record Collector from Jan. 1991 says... UK 12" Single ------------- Capitol CL 15998 Neonlights/Trans Europe Express/The Model (1978, luminous vinyl) ......8 UK Pounds [mint condition] Got one myself as well :) :) :) Smell Ya'll Later! Johan. -- ******************************************************************************** * Statik is Here! Making Remixes and Megamixes is my pride & joy! :) * * e-mail: 0weterings01@lelystad.flnet.nl * * web-page: http://www.flnet.nl/~0weterings01 (a bit under construction) * ******************************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) Shimmering Neon Lights (12") Date: 15 Jan 1997 20:11:02 +0100 At 16:34 15-01-97 +0100, Andreas Elin wrote: > I remember that I had a teacher 15 years ago who also was a >discjockey, he claimed that he had the Man-Machine album on green >fluorescent >vinyl. If this is true, I cannot say. > Well, there's no mention of this issue in the Januari '91 issue of the Record Collector (which doesn't mean it doesn't exist - but it's unlikely). There is mention of... German LPs ---------- Die Mensch Machine (1978, red vinyl)..... 250 (!!!!WOW!!!!) UK pounds. It's the most valuable item in the Record Collector's list... argh! Smell Ya Later, Johan. -- ******************************************************************************** * Statik is Here! Making Remixes and Megamixes is my pride & joy! :) * * e-mail: 0weterings01@lelystad.flnet.nl * * web-page: http://www.flnet.nl/~0weterings01 (a bit under construction) * ******************************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) Model-Remake Date: 15 Jan 1997 20:45:50 +0100 (NFT) > Watched VIVA yesterday and heard a quite familiar melody, but sounding very > different... There was a group playing "Das Model" in (cheap) dancefloor > style, like DJ Bobo or Mr. President *blergh*. > Haven't seen the name of the group as I switched it off... I guess that it was a group called Generator. I've just read somewhere that one of the group members is Bluemchen's producer. If this is true, it explains a lot! :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) "Techno Pop" 2 Date: 15 Jan 1997 22:42:29 EST Wassup? Cozumel was da bomb; sad to be back in freezing cold! Now, to backtrack a li'l, I recall that Warner Bros. gave TP a catalog number (23???). Now I really think these masters exist. How do they sound, those who've heard? I'm gettin' mad skeptical about 1/29, naah mean? I haven't seen/heard anything except what's been taking place here. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Undestroyable Myths Part 7329... Date: 16 Jan 1997 10:33:34 +0100 (NFT) Here we go again... > Now I really think these masters exist. How do they sound, those > who've heard? And I really think that the Yeti exists. How does he look, those who've seen him? Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: Re: (kw) New Elektrik Music/Karl Bartos material soon? Date: 16 Jan 1997 18:11:50 +0100 (NFT) > I have been told by a source, who has been accurate with similar > information in the past, that a new release from Karl Bartos/Elektric > Music will be released in Germany in mid-January. No sign of such a release yet, but New Life 01/1997 reports that new releases from both Kraftwerk and Elektric Music are scheduled for spring 1997. However, the Kraftwerk release is listed with a "?!?"... :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremy Rotsztain Subject: (kw) rolands junos Date: 16 Jan 1997 19:21:41 -0500 hello. I found a juno 6 in a local record store for dirt cheap - $200 canadian (140 US). It sounded great, but I don't know what i'm missing out on with other models. Could someone fill me in on the difference between the 6, 60 and 106 (in terms of $, features, oscillators, and saving sounds). I'm sorry to bother all of you with this junk. thanks, jeremy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mark Stagg <101706.1667@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) Cancelled retrospective album Date: 16 Jan 1997 20:08:06 EST Earlier today I was shown the CD booklet artwork for an aborted Kraftwerk retrospective that EMI UK planned to release during 1994. They commissioned a company called The Attic Design Co Ltd to offer a basic idea, though there were no actual pictures of KW at this stage. Really nice computer-grahics though - very tasteful - and much, much better than any of the other compilation designs we've seen IMHO. The guy from Attic told me that the track listing was never finally decided, but it was to have been a 'best-of' of the EMI albums ("Autobahn" to "The Mix"), plus some new mixes by contemporary DJs/remixers. Nothing was ever finished, although Paul Oakenfold/Steve Osborne were apparently approached among others. The whole thing was cancelled because... (you guessed it!) lack of co-operation from R+F. The title was to have been "In Motion", subtitled "Kraftwerk - Past, Present & Future". Some of the artwork is reproduced in Attic's 1996 catalog, which is available through artist/design/graphics bookshops. Don't know the title, but it has a plain, textured "wallpaper" cover and costs around 30.00 (Sterling), so if ever you see it, best to just have a good browse I guess! STAGGMAN # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: (kw) Cancelled retrospective album Date: 16 Jan 1997 21:31:29 +0000 Yes i've seen that also in a Design / CD book .It was for The MIX2 .Very nice design but I don't think it was chosen or released..... -- Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Translation problem Date: 17 Jan 1997 01:09:16 EST I need help with a German word. What does "wechselspannung" mean? This is the title of an album by Pete Namlook and Jonah Sharp on the Fax label. I know this is off topic, but the album's one piece, "220 V," sounds surprisingly KW-y. It's worth a look. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) Wechselspannung! Date: 17 Jan 1997 00:02:43 -0800 Wechselspannung = Alternating Voltage/Current -(!!!!)- -(Hallo, Klaus? Habe ich das korrekt??)- Meanwhile, ROBOT's K-philes are ready! FINALLY! I'll post a brief list in a short while. As soon as I can type it up.... ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) ROBOT's K-philes Date: 17 Jan 1997 01:49:51 -0800 -(really from ROBOT aka: Melanie Jean Mayfield c/o: Gyro Gearloose aka: John Bond)- Eureka, CA. USA ROBOTIK GREET.INGS! I have a few old KRAFTWERK Articles with some rare fotos, and I'd be glad to share them by Email and correspond with anyone who's interested. Here is a list with brief descriptions. NOTE: "Taskbar readings", ie: [105K], will vary on receiving end. All articles are in jpg format except where noted. Please Email me and let me know which articles you need. I can send multipage articles together, or one page at a time, or ALL 5 articles strung together, whichever you prefer. K-philes Kontents: "Spin-Offs", Club, Oct'79. [105K] Brief article, very nice color foto, -(circa TEE?)-, all 4 in grey suits, K&W playing custom percussion unit with "clock" on top. 3/4 page, including "Network" Logo. "Nuts and Bolts of KRAFTWERK", Future#4, Aug'78. [141K] 3/4 page, with an EXcellent color foto of F&R with a ROBOTIC Friend. Similar to the b/w picture in The BOOK; Man, Machine and Music, taken at "Les Machines Celabatairs"/"The Batchelor Machines" expidition in Paris- '77/'78? "Germany's music Machines March On", Future#5, Oct'78. [217K+144K] 1 1/3 pages, 2 very good fotos: classic M.M "dummies" stage shot in color, and an unusual b/w picture of R&F&K&W with "broken glass" effect. -(TEE?)- "KRAFTWERK", Trouser Press, Nov'81. [195K + 193K] 2 pages, 2 b/w fotos: "Dummies" and a casual shot of F&R. -(F with Steel Pulse album?!)- "The WERK Ethic", The Face, Mar'82. [139K + 117K + 149K] 3 pages with several b/w fotos: small headshot of Ralf w/headphones, a somewhat larger headshot of Florian w/headphones, -(Chilling STARE!)-, and 3 CW sleeve fotos. NOTE: The 3rd page is also available in gif format [388K], and it's a bit sharper than the usual jpg format, but, a bit of the extreme right-hand margin of text got chopped while trimming the page to fit the scanner, *ARGH*, and the scanner chopped a little more -no way to correct it- But, the good fotos are on the first 2 pages, anyway, so, if you're tight on bandwidth, go with the jpg. "kw_1997.gif" [55K] Digital Greeting Card! This is my ROBOTiK Rendition of R&F partying on New Year's. I drew it & scanned it. Everybody gets one! Pass it on! Let's hope the *NEW* Album is released SOON! C U in CYBERSPACE! I need more NetPals! Everyone, please write! =OHM SWEET OHM= ROBOT gyrgrls@razorlogic.com http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT -(Check out my Foto & Profile. YPN is FREE! And ANYone can PEEK!)- http://www.scifi.com -(Public Access to The DOMINION)- http://www.scifi.com/members/lounge/profiles/R/ROBOT -(same Foto, different Text. Also FREE, but, only Members can PEEK!)- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) old rumor Date: 17 Jan 1997 12:04:06 +0100 hello, cleaning the hd I found this old (14 dec 96) mex from the newsgroup alt.music.synthpop I missed to notice. is from a guy named Josef Gabler. ============== start pasting ================ In article , 32ABA170.519F@earthlink.net writes: |> Nitronic Research wrote: |> > Will Kraftwerk make another album? |> |> Yes! No! Vielleicht! :-) I am sure: They have finished their work, and it will be released next Year - spring/summer! Regards Jos. -------- ooooooInternet und Bka haben uns'sre Daten da. Computerworld oooooo ============== end pasting ================= please note that it seem the whole tone was ironic... personal home page http://users.iol.it/lbo reVision - musica e cultura non necessariamente convenzionale http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3041 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) Wechselspannung! Date: 17 Jan 1997 22:17:44 +0100 >Wechselspannung = Alternating Voltage/Current -(!!!!)- > It's Alternating Voltage, not Alternating Current. Spannung is the german word for Voltage. Johan... PS: I've mailed some nice thingies to this list with info about the DayGlo NeonLights 12" and a red vinyl Mensch Machine.. but it wasn't posted. Can anyone tell me why????? -- ******************************************************************************** * Statik is Here! Making Remixes and Megamixes is my pride & joy! :) * * e-mail: 0weterings01@lelystad.flnet.nl * * web-page: http://www.flnet.nl/~0weterings01 (a bit under construction) * ******************************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) ROBOT's K-philes Date: 17 Jan 1997 14:04:57 -0800 -(I, ROBOT)- Hi, Everybuddy! It seems to WERK best when I send each article separately, well after Midnight. Please keep the requests coming. I'll take care of everyone all at once, everyday after midnight. Fair Enuff? ps: Thomas Weckert says there is NO album?!! NO!! Say it ain't SO!! ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Pilgrim Subject: [Fwd: Re: (kw) rolands junos] Date: 17 Jan 1997 19:00:23 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------557578F079E2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resend!!! btw there is a Juno60 here for $200Can. Philip -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca --------------557578F079E2 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Message-ID: <32DF97DE.693F@atcon.com> Organization: Lab Audio Works X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I; 16bit) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <32DEC615.32A9@po-box.mcgill.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeremy Rotsztain wrote: > > hello. > I found a juno 6 in a local record store for dirt cheap - $200 canadian > (140 US). It sounded great, but I don't know what i'm missing out on > with other models. Could someone fill me in on the difference between > the 6, 60 and 106 (in terms of $, features, oscillators, and saving > sounds). I'm sorry to bother all of you with this junk. thanks, jeremy I had all three. Sonicly they are all identical. however the features are only slightly different: The Juno 6 and 60 are the same except that the 60 has patch memory locations The 106 is only different in that: 1 It has midi..( the 60 has DCB, the 6 has none) 2. It has portamento (the 6 and 60 don't) 3. It does not have the beautiful arpegiator that the 6/60 have 4. It does not have the ext clk in for the Arp (no arp) nor ext VCF cv input 5. The 106 has more patch memory 6. the 6 and 60 have the same style (like a Jupiter8) the 106 is more like a Jupiter6 I like the 60 best if you get the Roland MD-8 Midi to DCB converter. Hope it helps 60 Secret: by holding transpose while powering up the 6 or 60, the arp up/dn dn swicth controls the voice assign Unison/poly1/poly2. Unison is thick!!! Philip -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca --------------557578F079E2-- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jeffW Subject: (kw) What does "Kraftwerk" mean? Date: 17 Jan 1997 18:08:02 +0000 Recently someone stated that "Kraftwerk" is a fairly common German word meaning "power-station". Would it be incorrect to say it could also mean "power-house"? Thanks, -Jeff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) What does "Kraftwerk" mean? Date: 18 Jan 1997 00:59:31 +0100 On 17-Jan-97 A.D., jeffW carved the following runes about "(kw) What does "Kraftwerk" mean?": >Recently someone stated that "Kraftwerk" is a fairly common German >word meaning "power-station". Would it be incorrect to say it could >also mean "power-house"? Power-plant, power-station, power-house, whatever... Gerade aus! -- _______________________________________________ E M A N U E L M A I R // All animals are equal, but some animals are | mair@medstud.gu.se \\ // more equal than others - Orwell, Animal Farm| GSM:+46-(0)70-7819014 \X/ SYSTEM ALERT #0.998 System Error:"Intel Inside"| http://medstud.gu.se/~mair SYSTEM ALERT #2 Virus Detected: "Windows 95" | |______Team AMIGA_____________________/boing\__________/bumm\_______/tschak # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Pilgrim Subject: (kw) Re Jerry Wasley, Apology Date: 17 Jan 1997 21:04:45 -0800 Hi all, I've managed to contact Jerry Wasley and he has agreed to settle with my friend Stefan Gruhl. However, Jerry is upset with me because of some of the nasty phone messages he has been getting. It has not been my intention for this. I simply wanted someone to contact him and get him to call me. This request was made because Stefan could not contact him over 15 months and I did not get a reply after many attempts over 4 days. Jerry has contacted me so there is no need for anyone to ask him to contact me anymore. I apologized to Jerry for this. Jerry is also upset because my letter requesting help was only based on information that I received from Stefan. I apologized to Jerry for any "one-sidedness" in my request for help. Jerry sincerely assured me that he did not try to mislead Stefan as I had written. I hope that this public apology to Jerry Wasley clears the air. Sincerely Philip Pilgrim -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Shimmering Neon Lights (12") Date: 18 Jan 1997 02:22:26 +0100 At 16:04 15/01/97 +0100, you wrote: >I found a "Neon Lights" 12" printed on green *fluorescent* vinyl (I >surely wonderful! I think I'll put it in a frame and hang it on the >wall. ah ah, io l'ho gia' fatto qualche anno fa! fa un'ottimo effetto! already done some year ago, and it look very nice! >Question : Does anybody know if this record has some commercial value? not a very lot, you don't find it easily, then again is not a complete rarity. personal home page http://users.iol.it/lbo reVision - musica e cultura non necessariamente convenzionale http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3041 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Plagiarisms & Trademarks Date: 18 Jan 1997 02:22:24 +0100 I know for sure that some years ago a guy in the italian cosmetic market trademarked for Italy a lot of names he just imagined some major company would use for man parfumes. of course he lost a lot of money, then it happened that a major company really produced a parfume with one of "his" names. he waited for the consequent massive advertisement campaign and *after* claimed his trademark - for Italy at least. he asked for a lot of money but a quite lot more were already spent on the ad campaign and after all it was not so a big lot for the major cosmetic company, so they paid and everybody was happy. ok, a little off topic, sorry... personal home page http://users.iol.it/lbo reVision - musica e cultura non necessariamente convenzionale http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3041 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "Radio Wellen" Date: 18 Jan 1997 16:57:10 +0000 The new CD-compilation "Radio Wellen" (CNL 106a) contains a track by Michael Rother, "Silver Sand" from the "Esperanza" album. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rac Shade Subject: (kw) kraftwerk radio fest Date: 18 Jan 1997 14:11:52 -0800 (PST) hi folks! sorry to de-lurk suddenly, but i have kind of a pressing problem. my name is geoff and i work at a radio station in boston (whrb, 95.3). we're a 3000 watt, commercial, non-profit, volunteer run station affiliated with harvard university. i could wax poetic about how great i think the station is or how unique i think the show i work for is (the record hospital), but i won't. suffice it to say that we focus exclusively on presenting overlooked or underappreciated music in several formats that cannot be heard elsewhere on the radio. as part of this commitment, we interrupt our regular schedule every january and may for "orgy (r) season". "orgies" (and yes, we really do have a registered trademark on the term for some ridiculous reason) are large blocks of time devoted to the work of a particular artist, composer, label, or area. this year, among many others, we're presenting the kraftwerk orgy. hence my problem. i should say "i" am presenting the kraftwerk orgy. i scheduled it some time ago, but work, family problems, and life in general intervened and now i find myself down to the wire. there is certainly enough material out there to fill 30 continuous hours of air (probably several times over). the problem is that too much of it is "out there" and not "in here". i simply have not been able to acquire enough stuff. in a word: help. if anyone has any suggestions, leads, or would like to discuss loaning material (soon!) please feel free to write me, eithere here or at shade@phantom.com. i am particularly interested in finding the yamo stuff, florian's ode to his synth from that german music mag, tonefloat, any recorded interviews you may know of, any live recordings, bootlegs, or remixes you may find worthwhile, etc. i've also heard tell of a newly available neu! album. help bring kraftwerk to the masses (and save my butt in the process)! electronically, - geoff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) Shimmering Neon Lights (12") Date: 18 Jan 1997 14:25:39 +0100 At 16:34 15-01-97 +0100, Andreas Elin wrote: > I remember that I had a teacher 15 years ago who also was a >discjockey, he claimed that he had the Man-Machine album on green >fluorescent >vinyl. If this is true, I cannot say. > Well, there's no mention of this issue in the Januari '91 issue of the Record Collector (which doesn't mean it doesn't exist - but it's unlikely). There is mention of... German LPs ---------- Die Mensch Machine (1978, red vinyl)..... 250 (!!!!WOW!!!!) UK pounds. It's the most valuable item in the Record Collector's list... argh! Smell Ya Later, Johan. -- ******************************************************************************** * Statik is Here! Making Remixes and Megamixes is my pride & joy! :) * * e-mail: 0weterings01@lelystad.flnet.nl * * web-page: http://www.flnet.nl/~0weterings01 (a bit under construction) * ******************************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Statik <0weterings01@flnet.nl> Subject: Re: (kw) Shimmering Neon Lights (12") Date: 18 Jan 1997 14:25:35 +0100 At 16:04 15-01-97 +0100, Luca Dassi wrote: >I found a "Neon Lights" 12" printed on green *fluorescent* vinyl (I >don't know if it's the correct word, I mean it glows in the dark just >like a wristwatch hand). So bad it's a little scratched...but it's >surely wonderful! I think I'll put it in a frame and hang it on the >wall. >Question : Does anybody know if this record has some commercial value? > Yes, it does. The Record Collector from Jan. 1991 says... UK 12" Single ------------- Capitol CL 15998 Neonlights/Trans Europe Express/The Model (1978, luminous vinyl) ......8 UK Pounds [mint condition] Got one myself as well :) :) :) Smell Ya'll Later! Johan. -- ******************************************************************************** * Statik is Here! Making Remixes and Megamixes is my pride & joy! :) * * e-mail: 0weterings01@lelystad.flnet.nl * * web-page: http://www.flnet.nl/~0weterings01 (a bit under construction) * ******************************************************************************** # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Monrad Pedersen Subject: (kw) greetings from new member Date: 19 Jan 1997 14:46:10 +0100 my name is Pedersen from denmark. I am 29 years old and have been a KW-fan for about 12 years. I hope to exchange informations with you all. I am interrested in buying old records KW1-2-3 and bootlegs. In a moment of insanity i sold my copies, now i would like to get them back. greetings to yoy all!!! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rac Shade Subject: (kw) radio activity Date: 19 Jan 1997 21:00:27 -0800 (PST) ok, i have to admit: the response to my plea for assistance has been distinctly underwhelming. to recount: i will be attempting to broadcast 30 hours of kraftwerk related music this weekend on a major radio station in boston. i would be incredibly grateful for any loans. i would be more than glad to pay for insurance and overnight shipping and send you a tape of the entire orgy. there has to be _someone_ who has a copy of florian's synth "advertisement" (perhaps a german fan?). if you are uncomfortable sending vinyl, i'd even appreciate a good cassette dub at this point. electronically, - geoff # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Kess <101451.3333@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) rumours new album Date: 20 Jan 1997 04:25:51 EST Hy to all, sad to say, but I have to destroy rumours about a new Kraftwerk Album. I phoned up a friend of mine, who is working a EMI and asked about a possible release date of this album. He answered that no release is planned and nothing is scheduled because there is no new material and Kraftwerk does not work actually on a release. He promised to inform me about any news... He will give this announcement also to dpa which is a big german news agency. So the announcement in the wom journal and other press is wrong! It's like every Kraftwerk Fan says. I believe it (the new release), when I own it. regards Oliver +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -+-+-+-+- ES WIRD IMMER WEITER GEHN, MUSIK ALS TRAEGER VON IDEEN +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ -+-+-+-+- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DHOLTON@derwent.co.uk Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk online library Date: 20 Jan 1997 10:07:17 +0000 I've just visited Mr Zaepke's library and very enjoyable it was too! Does anyone know when/if "time Pie " by Yamo will be be available in the UK?? Dave Holton # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jose Castaneda Subject: (kw) New Releases? Date: 19 Jan 1997 08:04:45 -0500 (EST) Hi. I'm new on the List, I just see this new releases KRAFTWERK - KRAFTWERK KRAFTWERK - KRAFTWERK 02 KRAFTWERK - TONE FLOAT What do you know about them? Regards for all the list! Jose. _______________________________________________________ Jose Castaneda Grados E-mail: josecg@amauta.rcp.net.pe >From Lima-Peru! :). # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Yamo: "Stereomatic" Date: 20 Jan 1997 17:56:28 +0000 > I've just visited Mr Zaepke's library and very enjoyable it was too! Thanks! :-) > Does anyone know when/if "time Pie " by Yamo will be be available in the UK?? In Germany it is scheduled for February (no concrete date yet). An international release is also planned, AFAIK, but I don't know when it will be out (a few weeks after the German release, I would guess.) Anyway, the first CD single, titled "Stereomatic" is already out, at least in Germany. Catalogue number: EMI 7243 8 622269 2 1. Track listing: 1. Stereomatic (radio edit) 3:43" 2. Mosquito (hunting feels better) (album version) 3:44" 3. Stereomatic (bionaut on air mix) 4:35" 4. DR.UG.LY (more than slim) (club mix) 5:52" Credits: Produced by Wolfgang Fluer, Andy Thoma, Jan Werner & Michael Grund. Words by Wolfgang Fluer. Music by Wolfgang Fluer, Andy Thoma, Jan Werner & Michael Grund. Trk. 3 Remixed by the bionaut for Burger Music Works (BMW) a yamo production EMI im Internet: http://www.netville.de/emi/yamo Emil Schult's logo is also on the sleeve, though he isn't credited explicitely. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "CHIRIATTI CLAUDIO" Subject: (kw) Other jobs ? Date: 20 Jan 1997 18:32:32 MET Does anyone on the list know if Ralf Huetter and Florian Schneider earn enough money with their music or if they're doing some other business beside making music and being rich. Thanks Claudio Claudio G. Chiriatti e-mail:chir3301@uni-trier.de Civilization is the enemy of humanity Sturm und Klang fuer jedermann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: j.carter@juno.com (Jeff C Carter) Subject: Re: (kw) New Releases? Date: 20 Jan 1997 14:48:46 EST Jose, those "new" releases are actually EARLY Kraftwerk releases, I have Kraftwerk 2 and it 's pretty good, at that time in their music career they were more on the experimental avant-garde side, they had the early inklings of machine driven music even though it was with relatively "crude instruments" instead of the accurate synth-robot-pop that we all love. I would go ahead and buy those releases anyway.. J.Carter@Juno.com On Sun, 19 Jan 1997 08:04:45 -0500 (EST) Jose Castaneda writes: >Hi. >I'm new on the List, >I just see this new releases > > KRAFTWERK - KRAFTWERK > KRAFTWERK - KRAFTWERK 02 > KRAFTWERK - TONE FLOAT > >What do you know about them? > >Regards for all the list! > >Jose. >_______________________________________________________ >Jose Castaneda Grados E-mail: josecg@amauta.rcp.net.pe >>From Lima-Peru! :). > > > > ># Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? ># Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. ># Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original >sender. > # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "deckard" Subject: (kw) can you translete, please? Date: 19 Jan 1997 21:18:33 +0100 Hello all! First, thanks to Klaus Zaekpe for that fantastic on line library. Thank you very much :-). I´m scaning and preparing two articles from spanish magazines. I´ll send you in a few days. Today I found this lines in EMI Electrola web, but I don´t understand german language (I promise learning soon :-). Please, can anybody translate for me...? "Ob Klassik oder Jazz, ob Rock oder Pop, ob Blues oder Techno, ob Heavy Metal oder Country: das Spektrum von EMI umfaßt Musik in all ihren Ausdrucksformen, von Callas bis Cocker, von Kollo bis Kraftwerk. Mit über 900.000 einzelnen Titeln gehört EMI darüber hinaus zu den weltweit führenden Musikverlagen, ein “Who Is Who“ zeitgenössischer Künstler, das seinesgleichen sucht". Thank you very much in advance. Rafa from Spain. PD( I hope that Oliver Kess and his news be wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: j.carter@juno.com (Jeff C Carter) Subject: Re: (kw) Other jobs ? Date: 20 Jan 1997 15:53:35 EST I think they've made enough money with kraftwerk to live a comfortable life, I was wondering what if they received a single dollar every time some rap, techno, house, trance, industrial, un-original hack sampled kraftwerk for their own purposes, Florian and Ralf would be billionaires. [NOTICE: This message was delayed on its way to the list because it contained excess quoted text, which has been automatically removed. To prevent this from happening to your messages, be sure to include as little text as possible from the message you are responding to.] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "deckard" Subject: (kw) can you translete, please? Date: 19 Jan 1997 21:18:33 +0100 Hello all! First, thanks to Klaus Zaekpe for that fantastic on line library. Thank you very much :-). I´m scaning and preparing two articles from spanish magazines. I´ll send you in a few days. Today I found this lines in EMI Electrola web, but I don´t understand german language (I promise learning soon :-). Please, can anybody translate for me...? "Ob Klassik oder Jazz, ob Rock oder Pop, ob Blues oder Techno, ob Heavy Metal oder Country: das Spektrum von EMI umfaßt Musik in all ihren Ausdrucksformen, von Callas bis Cocker, von Kollo bis Kraftwerk. Mit über 900.000 einzelnen Titeln gehört EMI darüber hinaus zu den weltweit führenden Musikverlagen, ein “Who Is Who“ zeitgenössischer Künstler, das seinesgleichen sucht". Thank you very much in advance. Rafa from Spain. PD( I hope that Oliver Kess and his news be wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Weird KW interpretation Date: 21 Jan 1997 00:28:02 EST Wassup, fellow 'werkers? I heard the strangest version of KW on underground hip-hop MC Sha-Key's album on Imago/BMG. Razel, Sha-Key's "rhythm provider," did an amalgam of "Numbers" and "Home Computer" human-beat-box style. Human beat box refers to creating drum sounds and various bleeps and other noises through controlling the passage of air through the lips, tongue, and gums. The drum machine is sometimes called a "beat box," thus the name. It was da bomb. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thilo Mezger Subject: Re: (kw) can you translete, please? Date: 21 Jan 1997 08:47:53 +0100 (MET) On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, deckard wrote: > Today I found this lines in EMI Electrola web, but I don=B4t understand > german language (I promise learning soon :-). Please, can anybody=20 > translate for me...? >=20 > "Ob Klassik oder Jazz, ob Rock oder Pop, ob Blues oder > Techno, ob Heavy Metal oder Country: das Spektrum von=20 > EMI umfa=DFt Musik in all ihren Ausdrucksformen, von Callas > bis Cocker, von Kollo bis Kraftwerk. Mit =FCber 900.000 > einzelnen Titeln geh=F6rt EMI dar=FCber hinaus zu den weltweit > f=FChrenden Musikverlagen, ein =93Who Is Who=93 zeitgen=F6ssischer=20 > K=FCnstler, das seinesgleichen sucht". "... EMI is the leading company. There's no better company. We cover everyting from Joe Cocker to Maria Callas ..." No need to give you a word by word translation! Cheers! Thilo _________ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ Thilo.Mezger@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de |___ ___| | |_| | | | | | / _ \ http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~ua5m/ | | | _ | | | | |___ ( (_) ) Stop Pollution - Create Eevolution |_| |_| |_| |_| |____| \___/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: (kw) Re: www.kraftwerk.com Date: 21 Jan 1997 12:09:07 -0500 (EST) I attempted to connect to the www.kraftwerk.com webpage this morning and received a "Alert!: Unable to connect to remote host." message indicating that I could not get through. I was just wondering if anyone knows if the page is currently under construction or something? Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill mbarnhil@email.gc.cuny.edu "Boing Boom Tschak..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andreas Monrad Pedersen Subject: (kw) searching early kraftwerk Date: 21 Jan 1997 20:02:08 +0100 Hello to you all! I would like to buy the Kraftwerk albums 1 2 3 either on vinyl or cd. If you have any of your own for sale or know of anybody who would like to sell please let me know. thanks, Andreas (from denmark) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: Re: (kw) Other jobs ? Date: 20 Jan 1997 18:34:59 +0000 CHIRIATTI CLAUDIO was saying: >Does anyone on the list know if Ralf Huetter and Florian Schneider >earn enough money with their music or if they're doing some other >business beside making music and being rich. Well, you sort of answered that yourself :) Florian, I think, was from a very opulent family to begin with. In addition, I'd say they've made enough dough off the sale of their existing albums. Certainly they haven't been to desperate to get a new album out :) -- /=====================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | |Irish Electroacoustic Music Association | JarreVangelisTomitaCarlos | |Synthesizer Freak | |ErasurePinhasTangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.net/customers/Alliance)| \=====================================================================/ "I didn't want to make music any longer. I didn't want to be a robot. I didn't want to make concerts, even, I didn't want to be with the boys after all those years" --- Wolfgang Fleur, on leaving Kraftwerk in 1987. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Sam Habash Subject: (kw) klingklang.wav minutae... Date: 21 Jan 1997 21:04:41 -0800 Klingklang and Kraftwerk are trade- and servicemarks of Ralf Huetter and Florian Schneider. Copying of this file to other servers than www.kraftwerk.com is strictly forbidden. Please inform copyright@kraftwerk.com if you found this file on another server. ICOP: (C) Klingklang 1996 ICRD: 1996-11-30 IKEY: KRAFTWERK, Klingklang DISP: KlingKlang --Sam Bleet! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: (kw) New album listing: Date: 22 Jan 1997 04:50:58 +0000 New album listing.........? http://www.internet.no:80/pan/97spring.html -- Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Luca Dassi Subject: (kw) www.kraftwerk.com updated! Date: 22 Jan 1997 14:08:19 +0100 Don't hold your breath, but...there's actually been an update in www.kraftwerk.com. The image file ANTENNE.GIF has been updated on Jan, 16 (it was dated Jan, 1) and its size is about 200 bytes less. Apparently, the new image is the same as the old one, but this time it was built with a *registered* version of GIF Construction Set (the shareware version appends a copyright message at the end of the file) In fact, the old image contained the string: >This GIF file was assembled with GIF Construction Set from: >Alchemy Mindworks Inc. >P.O. Box 500 >Beeton, Ontario >L0G 1A0 >CANADA. >This comment block will not appear in files created with a registered >version of GIF Construction Set. It's nice to know that R&F don't worry only about *their* copyrights and trademarks! Peace, Luca Dassi Italy # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lbo Subject: (kw) another one waiting for the new album... Date: 22 Jan 1997 08:20:12 +0100 it seem there is another one whose aspectation are going to turn in delusion, if it's true that Emi and K are not planning new material. on page 177 of Wired magazine there is the listing of the contributors, that usually give some very short ironical description of their interests. it is reported that: "Daniel Diver is a freelance journalist living in Germany. He heard a rumor that Kraftwerk might be reforming and is very excited about it". for those who do not know it, Wired is a very hip (trendy?) monthly magazine, very nice graphically, devoted to the social/cultural aspects of informatic, telematic, technology and so on. anyway in this number and in the last year there are no other reference to K but this, and it's unlikely that there could have been before. personal home page http://users.iol.it/lbo reVision - musica e cultura non necessariamente convenzionale http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/3041 # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam L Read Subject: (kw) Hmmmm....? Date: 23 Jan 1997 09:55:36 +1100 Another Florian in Germany? http://www.teamware.com:80/flops.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Timour.JGENTI@ifp.fr (Timour JGENTI) Subject: Re: (kw) Hmmmm....? Date: 22 Jan 1997 17:02:05 +0100 > Another Florian in Germany? > > http://www.teamware.com:80/flops.html Schneider seems to be very common name, even outside Germany. For example even at IFP where i work (in France) there's a guy who's name is: F. Schneider... however that F was not for Florian ;-) Tim -- Timour JGENTI Institut Francais du Petrole __ timour.jgenti@ifp.fr D.I.M.A, groupe Image ___________ intersp@ce>> http://www.mygale.org/00/timlcf/ <<< Have Fun! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ManMachn2@aol.com Subject: (kw) csound Date: 22 Jan 1997 13:29:27 -0500 (EST) does anyone know where I can download this powerful synthesis program. i read about it in keyboard magazine and am very interested. thanks. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paulo Mouat Subject: Re: (kw) csound Date: 22 Jan 1997 19:49:18 +0100 > does anyone know where I can download this powerful synthesis program. > i read about it in keyboard magazine and am very interested. thanks. CSound info and download sites can be found at http://www.leeds.ac.uk/music/Man/c_front.html -- __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, |___| mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subrata Bhattacharjee Subject: (kw) Yamo Date: 22 Jan 1997 16:38:32 -0500 I assume that the Jan Werner and Andi Tomas are the people behind Mouse on Mars. If this is so, it bodes well - the last MoM album sounded a bit like the first two KW albums. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: Re: (kw) Yamo Date: 22 Jan 1997 23:47:22 +0000 > I assume that the Jan Werner and Andi Tomas are the people behind > Mouse on Mars. Yes, that's right. > If this is so, it bodes well - the last MoM album sounded > a bit like the first two KW albums. And the Yamo single sounds very much like the last Mouse on Mars album. "Stereomatic" is principally the same track as "Stereomission" from "Iahora Tahiti", for example. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thilo Mezger Subject: (kw) Yamo and more... Date: 23 Jan 1997 00:18:09 +0100 (MET) Hi there! Talking about Yamo and Mouse On Mars I'd like to recommend you some of Jorg Burger's stuff as well. Jorg also did a remix on the Yamo EP. He is better known as Burger Industries or The Bionaut. There are also some releases on the EMI label like the "Please Teenage!" MCD (also incl. a mix from Mouse On Mars and Mike Ink), "Burger/Ink - Las Vegas", or "Bionaut - Lush Life Elektronika" (all released by Harvest/EMI Elektrola). Very smooth and relaxed elektronik from Cologne (30km away from Dusseldorf). Remember: Wolfgang Flur said in an interview that "Herr Burger is a nice guy" ... :-) Thilo _________ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ Thilo.Mezger@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de |___ ___| | |_| | | | | | / _ \ http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~ua5m/ | | | _ | | | | |___ ( (_) ) Stop Pollution - Create Eevolution |_| |_| |_| |_| |____| \___/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) Bounced K-philes Date: 23 Jan 1997 01:25:13 -0800 -(I, ROBOT)- ROBOT's K-philes RATS! Some of my K-philes xmissions and various messages got bounced back to me, and I missed a few Email messages, so, if anyone asked me for K-philes within the past few days and didn't get 'em, PLEASE write AGAIN and let me know. I try to send out a batch every midnight. Oh, someone asked if it costs ME anything to xmit. No, it's FREE, just like regular Email. We pay $20 a month for unlimited hours on the Net. -(I NEED a homepage, and there are a lot of FREE WebSites, but, I don't know how to set it up!)- Some people people might have to pay for bandwidth that they receive, so, I don't send unless people ASK. Not everyone is set up to receive GraFFiX, etc. Well, dammit- are they EVER gonna do a *NEW* Album, or do I have to build my own Dream-'Droid Doppelgangern and do it MYSELF?!?!*ARGH*!!!! I NEED my VIBES!! ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "CHIRIATTI CLAUDIO" Subject: (kw) Thanks Mr Zaepke Date: 23 Jan 1997 13:24:56 MET By the way. Thank you Mr Zaepke for the great Kraftwerk Online-library. Really amazing and amusing Claudio Claudio G. Chiriatti e-mail:chir3301@uni-trier.de Civilization is the enemy of humanity Sturm und Klang fuer jedermann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Thilo Mezger Subject: (kw) What will it sound like... Date: 24 Jan 1997 01:36:44 +0100 (MET) Hi there! As there's still no sign of a new album I'd like to ask you what you'd expect a new album to sound like? Will it be techno? Or drum&bass just like David Bowie? Or more experimental like Radioaktivitat? Squeeze some ideas out of your brain but remember: KW have always been ahead of the crowd (apart from The Mix). What will they sound like today? Cheers! Thilo _________ ___ ___ ___ ___ ___ Thilo.Mezger@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de |___ ___| | |_| | | | | | / _ \ http://www.uni-karlsruhe.de/~ua5m/ | | | _ | | | | |___ ( (_) ) Stop Pollution - Create Eevolution |_| |_| |_| |_| |____| \___/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) What will it sound like #2 Date: 23 Jan 1997 23:23:03 EST >>> As there's still no sign of a new album I'd like to ask you what you'd expect a new album to sound like? Will it be techno? Or drum & bass just like David Bowie? Or more experimental like Radioaktivitat? <<< It'll be on some next shit, like nuthin' y'all ever heard before, naah mean? One thing's for sure: the beats will be phat and they'll be sampled by everyone They'll even re-invent the drum machine. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: Re: (kw) What will it sound like #2 Date: 23 Jan 1997 20:49:28 -0800 Adam Schefflan wrote: > It'll be on some next shit, like nuthin' y'all ever heard before, naah > mean? One thing's for sure: the beats will be phat and they'll be sampled by everyone They'll even re-invent the drum machine. PEACE. -(I, ROBOT sez)- It's gonna sound like an Amplified Orgasm, okay? Like NOTHIN' ever heard before!*snicker*! Kinda like certain parts on the Radioactivity album, only DEEPER! Where No MAN.MACHINE Has Gone Before....*sigh*.... *KRAFTWERK ORGY*! WHRB! BOSTON! YEAH! This Week-End! Those are MY Import Albums he's playin' on the AIR! Did anybody Else contribute?? :] ROBOSMILEY -(sorry. I'm in a WAY GooFy MooD!)- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Kess <101451.3333@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: (kw) What will it sound like... Date: 24 Jan 1997 02:42:38 EST HY, I do not expect any progress in music. They have been ahead of time, that's for shure. But development of something new? i'd like to hear that... A drum and bass sound, techno, hey, that is established music. If someone like Bowie uses that, that's marketing of a product. I think reducing music to its core, developing sound and a simple melody (not simple in means of composition, I mean) that is what Kraftwerk is up to, they do not need techno. Techno needed them. Oliver # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Fjellström Subject: (kw) Re: Their new sound Date: 25 Jan 1997 01:00:22 +0100 Their new sound? Interesting, I had a dream about their new album... the cover was sort of a bit 50's-retro-like, and the first song on the album was only about 1-2 minutes long, but terrific work. Then some 4-on-the-floor f*cking techno-beats started, and everything was spoiled! There you go... my latest nightmare on paper. But, anyway, I think that their new album will be like a fusion between Electric Café and Radioaktivität. Minimalistic lyrics, sound and rythm-based, with cute melodies on top. Very electronic like. If they'll start drum'n'bassing I'll probably shoot myself. /The Marco Man 8^D # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Troy Morehouse Subject: Re: (kw) Re: Their new sound Date: 24 Jan 1997 11:44:37 +0000 Marcus Fjellström wrote: > Their new sound? [...] > But, anyway, I think that their new album will be like a fusion between > Electric Café and Radioaktivität. Minimalistic lyrics, sound and rythm-based, > with cute melodies on top. Very electronic like. I kind of figure that it will progress a bit more from some of the styles in The Mix... Some soft-of fusion-techno-jazz that pops up once in a while in various song on The Mix (Pocket Calculator, Autobahn, and a few others). An maybe some of the kraftwerk.wav style off of www.kraftwerk.com (reminds me a bit of the song electric cafe in a way). I have a feeling that people will not like it the first time they hear it, same with Electric Cafe when it came out. I like it even more now that I've had a fe years to listen to it and appreciate it more. thats my 0.02$. -Troy http://iron.ingenia.com/~tmorehou # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Yamo WWW pages Date: 24 Jan 1997 20:19:35 +0000 EMI Electrola has put up some promotional WWW pages for Yamo, including single and album cover scans, soundfiles, a video file (with an excerpt from the promo video for "Stereomatic"), promo photos, graphics and some statements from Wolfgang Fluer. The URL for the starting page is http://www.netville.de/music/labels/emi/r/r025/yamo1.html Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "John S. Bond" Subject: (kw) The *NEW* Sound? Date: 24 Jan 1997 11:18:57 -0800 -(I, ROBOT)- Guten Tag, Fellow KRAFTWERKians! Marcus was describing his "Nightmare": "4-on-the-floor"?! EEK! Jeez, what are you trying to DO, scare everybody?! YIKES!! No, really- I dreamed about the E.Cafe album cover before it came out. I saw a musical staff as a "ribbon" coming out of my Stereo and filling the room. -(Pretty close- they had the notes floating around, but, not on a staff.)- I had a CLEAR image of their "Fractal" faces in blue tint on black background. As for SOUND, I was WAY off. I imagined it would be more like a blend of Radioactivity and MAN.MACHINE. I didn't think it would be so much like "house" music. -(Yeah, it took a while for E.Cafe to "grow" on me. I'm listening to it now, incident'ly.)- Dreams have a funny way of being TRUE sometimes! I didn't have any premonitions about The MIX, and I can't clearly grasp any details about what's coming up- just tiny glimpses of weird stuff I can't even describe. Well, Dream ON, everybody! The 29th is almost here and gone already, and STILL the *NEW* Album is UNconfirmed....*sigh*.... So- Geoff Gladstone/Rac Shade at WHRB in BOSTON/Cambridge: DID YOU RECEIVE MY ALBUMS INTACT?? PLEASE ADVISE. ROBOT # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: j.carter@juno.com (Jeff C Carter) Subject: Re: (kw) What will it sound like... Date: 24 Jan 1997 13:48:56 EST they do not need techno. Techno needed them. > >Oliver I totally agree. techno would never of existed if it wasn't for the Kraftwerks originality. or many of the other electronic based music. (just my opinion) By the way I think if Kraftwerk does make a new album, (please) it probably will be different than expected, they are the forerunners of robot-pop so I would expect something original. and I would also be first in line to buy it. [NOTICE: This message was delayed on its way to the list because it contained excess quoted text, which has been automatically removed. To prevent this from happening to your messages, be sure to include as little text as possible from the message you are responding to.] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Techno: the musical revolution Date: 25 Jan 1997 01:55:41 EST >>> They [KW] did not need techno. Techno needed them. <<< Yes. Kevin Saunderson, "Magic" Juan Atkins, and Derrick May (the inventors of techno) freely admit they were (and still are) diehard fans of our favorite group. They were paying homage, naah mean? However, you have to admit that Chicago's house music was a major influence. Techno started out in Detroit as that city's version of house music, knowhutimsayin'? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: (kw) Techno: the musical revolution Date: 25 Jan 1997 02:18:04 +0000 Speaking of "Magic" Juan......I think in some was he has out done Kraftwerk and even put himself on the level of the great jazz masters.....Just listen to Model 500's "Sonic Sunset". Kraftwerk are losing touch with things ,they are slowing down ...and I think they know it . On a sad note Tower Records here in NY has recently removed the entire Kraftwerk section off the shelf (it's no where to be found). -- Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Copyrights Date: 25 Jan 1997 13:15:33 +0000 The February issue of the German magazine Keyboards contains a letter from a reader who reports that Kraftwerk have copyrighted the word "Klangwerk", according to the Boersenblatt des deutschen Buchhandels. He reports further that Kraftwerk's lawyer - after his unsuccessful attempt to prevent the release of the German edition of the "Man, Machine and Music" book - forced the publishers to change the title. (The German title is "Synthesizer, Sounds und Samples".) Finally, he "complains" that Keyboards hasn't honored Kraftwerk with an article on the occasion of Ralf Huetter's recent 50. birthday. The answer from the editor: He didn't honor Huetter's birthday because he was afraid that Kraftwerk might have sued him if he did... :-) Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Paulo Mouat Subject: (kw) Co-author of 'The Blade (Pro-Gress Mix)'? Date: 25 Jan 1997 12:17:19 +0100 It just crossed my mind: Is the Mark Stagg on this list the co-author of 'The Blade (Pro-Gress Mix)'? If not, this is an interesting coincidence. Best! -- __|__ ___\_/___ ___ Paulo Mouat, |___| mouat@mail.telepac.pt |___| # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: majortom@muc.de (Michael Wesemann) Subject: (kw) Electronic Music on the Web Date: 25 Jan 1997 13:52:52 +0100 I have overworked my web page which contains some loops of my music. I think some of it might be of interest to other KW enthusiasts. Especially "ab.wav" which is a vocoded remix of a familiar KlingKlang tune: http://www.muc.de/~majortom/analogue/amusic.htm Enjoy! ___________________________________________________________________ (michael wesemann) # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: Re: (kw) The *NEW* Sound? Date: 25 Jan 1997 16:05:30 +0000 John S. Bond was saying: >Well, Dream ON, everybody! The 29th is almost here and gone already, and >STILL the *NEW* Album is UNconfirmed....*sigh*.... I have to admit, I thought it was promising myself, but it now looks increasingly unlikely that we'll not see anything on that date. Hell, I'd put a bet on it. I've all but given up on the 'werkers putting a new album out. Probably they couldn't care less anymore. -- /=====================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | |Irish Electroacoustic Music Association | JarreVangelisTomitaCarlos | |Synthesizer Freak | |ErasurePinhasTangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.net/customers/Alliance)| \=====================================================================/ "I didn't want to make music any longer. I didn't want to be a robot. I didn't want to make concerts, even, I didn't want to be with the boys after all those years" --- Wolfgang Fleur, on leaving Kraftwerk in 1987. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: (kw) Electronic Music on the Web Date: 25 Jan 1997 14:07:47 +0000 >I have overworked my web page which contains some loops of my music. I >think some of it might be of interest to other KW enthusiasts. >Especially "ab.wav" which is a vocoded remix of a familiar KlingKlang >tune: Better be careful or Kraftwerk and there lawyers might just sue you too.....! - Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ManMachn2@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Techno: the musical revolution Date: 25 Jan 1997 14:51:08 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-25 02:21:15 EST, you write: Kraftwerk are losing touch with things ,they are slowing down ...and I think they know it . >> .....i don't know about any of this....yes the technological side is of utmost importance because it makes the musical side fresh and interesting. the thing is - kraftwerk's melodies and playful tunes are never to be copied in their simplicity, perfection, and elegance - no matter how many synthesizers, "new" sounds, samplers and ultra-technology there is for every man on the market. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) Techno: the musical revolution Date: 25 Jan 1997 16:19:33 -0500 (EST) >On a sad note Tower Records here in NY has recently removed the entire >Kraftwerk section off the shelf (it's no where to be found). Hello there. I had stopped by that Tower location yesterday. While it certainly is sad that the Kraftwerk section was once considerably well stocked ('capitol years' box set and all back then!), they're presence hasn't entirely vanished altogether. The store still seems to carry an abundant quantity of the 'Computer World' cd for some reason. I believe there were about 6 copies of it stashed under the counter in the 'K' section, and another 2 out in the section itself. Also, there was one copy of 'Radio-Activity' (Capitol re-issue) there as well, but only one. Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill mbarnhil@email.gc.cuny.edu "Interpol and Deutsche Bank..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Pilgrim Subject: Re: (kw) Techno: the musical revolution Date: 25 Jan 1997 18:42:00 -0800 > Kraftwerk are losing touch with things ,they are slowing down ...and I > think they know it . >> They are old fellows now, but they have style and grace unlike other musicians from the '60's! Their music seems many levels above and ahead of their contemporaries....so age does not seem to matter that much. Infact, I regard them as masters of their machines...electronic sound engines. The only trouble that they may suffer is high frequency hearing loss....so they will have to bring a few "kids" in to mix the hi hats :) I am quite certain that their music will still be melodic, simplistic, clinical, technicaly interesting and structuraly perfect, their trademark ofcourse. Philip -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Future808@aol.com Subject: Re: (kw) Techno: the musical revolution Date: 26 Jan 1997 12:53:41 -0500 (EST) In a message dated 97-01-25 14:53:26 EST, ManMachn2@aol.com writes: << .i don't know about any of this....yes the technological side is of utmost importance because it makes the musical side fresh and interesting. the thing is - kraftwerk's melodies and playful tunes are never to be copied in their simplicity, perfection, and elegance - no matter how many synthesizers, "new" sounds, samplers and ultra-technology there is for every man on the market. >> I rarely post on this list, I mostly read, but I have to agree with ManMachn2 here, especially since last night I bought "Tour De France". It might have come out in 1982, and the melody is "simple" but unmatched by any other band in my opinion. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RADIO-TTT_ZG@ZAMIR-ZG.ZTN.APC.ORG (Radio TTT) Subject: (kw) Re: kraftwerk Digest V3 #36 Date: 26 Jan 1997 18:17:00 +0100 Radio TTT 26.01.97 ------------- This is a reply to the message written by: kraftwerk-owner@xmission.com on: 22.01.97 about the subject: kraftwerk Digest V3 #36 Dear kraftwerk-owner, sorry, but we received just an empty message... Something wrong? Radio TTT E-mail: Radio-TTT_ZG@Zamir-zg.ztn.apc.org URL: pubwww.srce.hr/arkzin/RadioTTT MediaFilter.org/MFF/RadioTTT.html ************************************************************* ## CrossPoint v3.11 ## # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Philip Pilgrim Subject: (kw) Observations Date: 26 Jan 1997 17:36:48 -0800 Just pulled out some old 45's I had in storage for too long: 12" Telephone Call Single 12" Tour de France 12" Music Non-Stop I think that Francois Kevorkian is bad for Kraftwerk! He seems to suck the energy out of their music! However I am amazed at how up front and powerful the drums are during this Electric Cafe period. Reminds me of the PIL "Flowers of Romance" or Cure's "Pornography" in =it's coldness and power but of course in an electronic style. The synth's melodies and sounds in Tour de France are pretty but not as "spacial" as they should be. They sound almost monophonic :( Since the song is dominated by the filter percussion, I think that some stereo enhancement would make these melodies stand out more in the mix. Actually TDF is not much different than passages in "Numbers" on "Computer World". It is easy to see the evolution of this percusive filter melody. Infact if they go on tour, they should play "Numbers" then continue on into "Tour de France". -- Philip Pilgrim The Lab Audio Works 5 Evan's Drive - Analog/Digital Recording/Processing Hammonds Plains - Acoustic Analysis and Consulting Nova Scotia, Canada - Analog Synth Modification and Repair B4B 1M8 - Computer/Synth Interfacing - Hardware/Software Development Home Phone +1.902.835.7844 Work Phone +1.902.868.2400 Home: pilgrim@atcon.com Work: ppilgrim@teleglobe.ca # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: j.carter@juno.com (Jeff C Carter) Subject: (kw) kraftwerk font Date: 26 Jan 1997 17:06:42 EST I was browsing the internet when I came across something about a Kraftwerk Font. (if it exists) Does anybody here have it? If you do, I was wondering if you could send the FONT to my e-mail file at HYPNONLP@AOL.COM. Thank you in advance if you send it! # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: (kw) Observations Date: 26 Jan 1997 18:08:02 +0000 >I think that Francois Kevorkian is bad for Kraftwerk! He seems to >suck the energy out of their music! The reason Francois was chosen is that he is good at sliming mixes down (subtracting) while William Orbit is very good at adding things to the mix. Florian sees this as Yin and Yang . Wich would make their (Ralph and Florians ) mix of the tracks "The Perfect Mix",a perfect balance......also they been very good friends with Francois for a while now,and Francois is very loyal to their request of secrecy. What I meant by saying Kraftwerk are loosing touch is that the music they have released in the past is not to be debated as being the best of the best ....but that they have not released any NEW..GOOD material in 13 years..... Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Remixers Date: 26 Jan 1997 19:09:45 EST >>> The reason Francois was chosen is that he is good at sliming mixes down (subtracting) while William Orbit is very good at adding things to the mix. Florian sees this as Yin and Yang . Which would make their (Ralph and Florian's ) mix of the tracks "The Perfect Mix",a perfect balance......also they been very good friends with Francois for a while now,and Francois is very loyal to their request of secrecy. <<< Personally, on the house tip, I'd like to see remixes by Masters at Work ("Little" Louie Vega & Kenny "Dope" Rodriguez), Todd Terry, Frankie Knuckles, MURK, or DJ Pierre (I could go on and on). On the hip-hop tip, could you imagine tracks remixed by the RZA, Diamond D., DJ Premier, DJ Muggs, or even Mantronik? I'd love it if a true remix album were released Stateside, naah mean? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) kraftwerk font Date: 27 Jan 1997 01:46:52 +0100 On 26-Jan-97 A.D., Jeff C Carter carved the following runes about "(kw) kraftwerk font": >I was browsing the internet when I came across something about a >Kraftwerk Font. (if it exists) Does anybody here have it? If you do, I >was wondering if you could send the FONT to my e-mail file at >HYPNONLP@AOL.COM. A simple Alta Vista search comes up with a Kraftwerk font at http://www.bitstream.net/chankstore/kraftwerk.html This is a commercial font-dealer though, and the KW-font costs USD 30. Maybe someone is interested in piracy... Gerade aus! -- _______________________________________________ E M A N U E L M A I R // All animals are equal, but some animals are | mair@medstud.gu.se \\ // more equal than others - Orwell, Animal Farm| GSM:+46-(0)70-7819014 \X/ SYSTEM ALERT #0.998 System Error:"Intel Inside"| http://medstud.gu.se/~mair SYSTEM ALERT #2 Virus Detected: "Windows 95" | |______Team AMIGA_____________________/boing\__________/bumm\_______/tschak # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) Remixers Date: 27 Jan 1997 01:54:17 +0100 On 27-Jan-97 A.D., Adam Schefflan carved the following runes about "(kw) Remixers": >>>> The reason Francois was chosen is that he is good at sliming mixes [& Orbit. Snip...] >Personally, on the house tip, I'd like to see remixes by Masters at Work >("Little" Louie Vega & Kenny "Dope" Rodriguez), Todd Terry, Frankie >Knuckles, MURK, or DJ Pierre (I could go on and on). On the hip-hop tip, >could you imagine tracks remixed by the RZA, Diamond D., DJ Premier, DJ >Muggs, or even Mantronik? I'd love it if a true remix album were released >Stateside, naah mean? Peace. Yes, I could imagine that! Eeeeeeeeeeeeek!! 8-P Gerade aus! -- _______________________________________________ E M A N U E L M A I R // All animals are equal, but some animals are | mair@medstud.gu.se \\ // more equal than others - Orwell, Animal Farm| GSM:+46-(0)70-7819014 \X/ SYSTEM ALERT #0.998 System Error:"Intel Inside"| http://medstud.gu.se/~mair SYSTEM ALERT #2 Virus Detected: "Windows 95" | |______Team AMIGA_____________________/boing\__________/bumm\_______/tschak # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jtalbert@ford.com (John Talbert) Subject: (kw) KW at Tribal Gathering Confirmed Date: 27 Jan 1997 06:33:16 -0500 OK! Now the good news... I received a long distance phone call from a (reliable) friend in the UK yesterday who says that MTV has officially confirmed Kraftwerk's appearance at the Tribal Gathering in May. (And I'm checking into plane fare cost right now!) IMO: I just bet that Kraftwerk wouldn't DARE appear at another live event playing the same old stuff from The Mix - so - you know what tHaT means???? I tell ya - new stuff is acomin' !!!! -John (MNS) Talbert # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Adam L Read Subject: (kw) Label? Date: 28 Jan 1997 11:44:55 +1100 I recently had a message that the new KW album and single is being released by Elektra in the US, April ? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "CHIRIATTI CLAUDIO" Subject: (kw) Cover of the "bible" Date: 27 Jan 1997 13:57:07 MET Who knows on what kind of performance the photo on the cover of the german version of Pascal Bussy's book was taken on. To me it seems like it was an TV-appearance after the "Computerworld/-welt" release. But who knows something more ? Thanks Claudio Claudio G. Chiriatti e-mail:chir3301@uni-trier.de Civilization is the enemy of humanity Sturm und Klang fuer jedermann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ZAWREL Johann Subject: (kw) Introduction Date: 27 Jan 1997 14:36:00 +0100 HY there, my name is Johann, i'm from Vienna and new on the list. I am a kraftwerkian since 1975. I have a large collection of 'music-data' from Kraftwerk, which begin with the original vinyl 'Tone-Float' and end with the latest Boot named 'the very best of..'. The weak-point of my collection is 'paper', if you like to exchange things...... . # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J. Reis" Subject: (kw) I saw a NEW Kraftwerk album for sale Date: 27 Jan 1997 15:15:37 GMT I was Browsing CDEurope ( http://www.cdeurope.com ) and i found a new kraftwerk album (yet to be released) imported from Japan. Does anyone can explain this? P.S. The Title was literally: "New Kraftwerk Album"=20 And there was a new single too. Jo=E3o Reis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "J. Reis" Subject: (kw) I saw a NEW Kraftwerk album for sale Date: 27 Jan 1997 15:20:38 GMT I was Browsing CDEurope ( http://www.cdeurope.com ) and i found a new kraftwerk album (yet to be released) imported from Japan. Does anyone can explain this? P.S. The Title was literally: "New Kraftwerk Album"=20 And there was a new single too. Jo=E3o Reis # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original= sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) US Label Date: 27 Jan 1997 11:15:44 EST >>> I recently had a message that the new KW album and single is being released by Elektra in the US, April? <<< Where did you get this info? Sylvia Rhone herself? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Cover photo Date: 27 Jan 1997 17:59:07 +0100 (NFT) > Who knows on what kind of performance the photo on the cover of the > german version of Pascal Bussy's book was taken on. To me it seems like > it was an TV-appearance after the "Computerworld/-welt" release. But > who knows something more ? It is Kraftwerk performing "The Model" on the "Na Sowas" TV-show, ZDF, 29.03.1982. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) "TheRootsTechno" Date: 27 Jan 1997 21:49:44 +0000 Kraftwerk appears on a new multi-artist CD compilation which was released in Japan: "TheRootsTechno" [sic!], TOCP-50014. The Kraftwerk tracks are: - The Robots - Showroom Dummies - The Model - Trans Europe Express - The Man Machine The sleeve doesn't contain any information about running times etc. Other artists on this compilation are OMD, John Foxx, The Human League and Ultravox. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Spotnik@aol.com Subject: (kw) What Would a New Kraftwerk LP Album Sound Like... Date: 27 Jan 1997 16:19:07 -0500 (EST) One of the things that strikes me about Kraftwerk, harmonically speaking, is that they mostly use major and minor chords as the harmonic foundations of their compositions, with little (no)? use of jazz-like chords such as major sevenths, 6/9ths, diminished, augmented etc. (Please correct me if I've missed any obvious examples.) So for Kraftwerk it would be a "new" sound if they jammed on, say, a Cmaj7-Fmaj7 chord progression, or even a James Brown-ish "play E9 all f**kin' night!"-type groove. In fact, it has always amazed me that they've gotten so much mileage out of just major and minor chords, and the way the use of such a "simple" harmonic palette gives their music such a--I'm not sure how to say this, but I hope some of you know what I'm getting at, and could elaborate further--"pure" feel. So if Kraftwerk were to play a jazz chord progression, in context, it would sound pretty bizarre. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Werner.Knappe@t-online.de (Werner Knappe) Subject: (kw) new subscriber on the list Date: 27 Jan 1997 22:51 +0100 hi WERKER's i'm a new member on the list and i'd like to introduce myself. my name is Werner Knappe from kiel (GER). i'm 29 and a KW-fan since '81 (legendary CW-album). saw them twice (cologne '81 and hamburg '92). great experience, most important influence for the last 16 years of listening to music. i try to collect vinyl and cd's of KW, terrible way to spend time and money cause i need a bunch of bucks ;-) BTW the price of the luminous Neon Lights-12" varies between 12 and 18 pounds (UK) resp. 60 and 80 DM (GER), which is a "value" IMHO # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Kess <101451.3333@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk related music Date: 27 Jan 1997 17:55:07 EST MUSIC NON STOP While searching the web for Kraftwerk related information, I came to the following link: http://www.caipirinha.com/comatonse/listening/rubato.html It gives Liner notes to the forthcoming release DIE ROBOTER RUBATO (Europe & Japan: Mille Plateaux, release date 1/97), a series of piano solo renditions of the following Kraftwerk titles: track listing 1. die roboter 4:35 2. aetherwellen 4:20 3. tour de france 6:46 4. computer welt 4:29 5. techno pop 6:02 6. ruckzuck 4:53 7. radioland 4:27 8. mensch machine 4:17 9. schaufensterpuppen 4:52 10. morgen spaziergang 5:21 I was quit pleased, when I first heard POSSESSED by the BALANESCU QUARTET, they played some Kraftwerk songs, like the model in a classis string version, (which is, in my opinion, the only good way to cover a Kraftwerk song) so I'm looking forward to this one too... Let's see, what the 29th has in (the record)store for us... oliver # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Weird Date: 28 Jan 1997 00:01:44 EST Indian-Brit producer Bally Sagoo sampled "Tour..." in one of his sonic creations. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ernesto Alvarado Jr." Subject: (kw) blue vinyl Date: 27 Jan 1997 23:01:58 -0600 hello everyone, my name is ernesto and I have been a big kraftwerk fan for the past 17 = yr.. I was wondering if anyone is familiar with a blue vinyl pressing of tee = remix and home computer remix? I picked it just recently really cheap. = there are no markings on the album, just a little sticker on the sleeve = that says made in England. any ideas? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Kess <101451.3333@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk related music Date: 28 Jan 1997 01:55:05 EST MUSIC NON STOP While searching the web for Kraftwerk related information, I came to the following link: http://www.caipirinha.com/comatonse/listening/rubato.html It gives liner notes to the forthcoming release DIE ROBOTER RUBATO (Europe & Japan: Mille Plateaux, release date 1/97), a series of piano solo renditions of the following Kraftwerk titles: track listing 1. die roboter 4:35 2. aetherwellen 4:20 3. tour de france 6:46 4. computer welt 4:29 5. techno pop 6:02 6. ruckzuck 4:53 7. radioland 4:27 8. mensch machine 4:17 9. schaufensterpuppen 4:52 10. morgen spaziergang 5:21 I was quit pleased, when I first heard POSSESSED by the BALANESCU QUARTET, they played some Kraftwerk songs, like the model in a classis string version, (which is, in my opinion, the only good way to cover a Kraftwerk song) so I'm looking forward to this one too... Let's see, what the 29th has in (the record)store for us... # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) (fwd) Re: Neues von KRAFTWERK ? Date: 28 Jan 1997 19:54:32 +0100 (NFT) Found at de.rec.music.elektronisch: > >Nun ich habe Florian Schneider in einem Interview (!) auf dem KlemDag '9= 6 in=20 > >Holland gesehen. Er hat dort auch gesagt, das Kraftwerk im Fr=FChjahr ne= neue=20 > >Scheibe herausbringt.=20 >=20 > Das war aber nicht Florian Schneider, sondern das ehemalige Kraftwerk- > Mitglied Wolfgang Fl=FCr. So relativiert sich das dann alles wieder... ;-= ) Wolfgang Fluer stated at last year's KLEMdag that Kraftwerk would release= =20 a new record in early 1997. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) "The special mezzo mixes vol. 1" Date: 28 Jan 1997 20:36:20 +0100 (NFT) The following bootleg CD was recently mentioned at alt.music.new-order: > CD The special mezzo mixes vol.1(remixes/megamixes by Depeche Mode, > Frankie goes to Hollywood, Madonna, NewOrder, Pink Floyd, Duran Duran, > Human League, Kraftwerk) Does anyone know the detailed tracklisting for that CD? Thanks, Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: j.carter@juno.com (Jeff C Carter) Subject: (kw) Re: Neues von KRAFTWERK ? (or I can't speak german?) Date: 28 Jan 1997 14:48:29 EST >Wolfgang Fluer stated at last year's KLEMdag that Kraftwerk would >release= >=20 >a new record in early 1997. I'll believe it when I'm playing it in my waking state and not in a dream. Jeff. we are standing there, exposing ourselves, we are showroom dummies. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Werner.Knappe@t-online.de (Werner Knappe) Subject: (kw) kraftweLT, Techno Pop Date: 28 Jan 1997 19:20 +0100 hi WERKER's I, ROBOT: thanx for the mail, great painting, what's your painter-nickname, you will become famous (and i need your sign). make sure that you own the copyright ;-)) 1. i bought a maxi-cd from kraftweLT, "deranged in space" (cleopatra clp 9781-2), with a bunch of different mixes. the 3rd track is called "the path" in a GERMAN KRAFT-mix.the whole cd is "dedicated to Ralf & Florian" - i know that they are danish guys but is there any relationship to our favorites? - the GERMAN KRAFT-mix is remixed by a guy called Torben Schmidt of Aqualite. i saw a 12" EP from KW, called GERMAN KRAFT: Megamix. (don't know which songs are mixed). is there a relationship? 2. i know that the following topic was discussed earlier but my question towards this was not really answered in an advert in UK-Record Collector someone offered 1000 pounds (sic!) for a vinyl pressing of "Techno Pop"! is he crazy, insane (or am i?)? does anyone on the list has such a rarity? # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "deckard" Subject: (kw) News from Japan about new album. Date: 27 Jan 1997 21:13:54 +0100 Hello All, I have recived news about new album from a japanese boy. This is his mail: Hello RAFA, My name is Junya Onodera, the webmaster of the Sanritsu Home Page. Thank you for emailing us. Kraftwerk's new album "COMPUTER WORLD" as the Japanese working title, after 6 year absence, was intended to release in Japan on 29, Jan. According to Toshiba-EMI, the Japanese record distributer, however, the album release has been postponed, and they have not determined the new release schedule. Nor they don't know about the details of the album. They also said that the UK release date was intended to be February 1997, but the schedule is postponed too. When we get the further information, we're sure to send you an email. Goodbye. Regards. Rafa from Spain. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Larry LaCost" Subject: (RE: (kw) kraftwerk font) Buyer beware!!! Date: 29 Jan 1997 04:39:51 UT The Kraftwerk font is Post-Script for the Macintosh. PC Truetype versions coming soon. (According to http://www.bitstream.net/chankstore/fonts.html). Larry ---------- Sent: January 26, 1997 4:46 PM On 26-Jan-97 A.D., Jeff C Carter carved the following runes about "(kw) kraftwerk font": >I was browsing the internet when I came across something about a >Kraftwerk Font. (if it exists) Does anybody here have it? If you do, I >was wondering if you could send the FONT to my e-mail file at >HYPNONLP@AOL.COM. A simple Alta Vista search comes up with a Kraftwerk font at http://www.bitstream.net/chankstore/kraftwerk.html This is a commercial font-dealer though, and the KW-font costs USD 30. Maybe someone is interested in piracy... Gerade aus! -- _______________________________________________ E M A N U E L M A I R // All animals are equal, but some animals are | mair@medstud.gu.se \\ // more equal than others - Orwell, Animal Farm| GSM:+46-(0)70-7819014 \X/ SYSTEM ALERT #0.998 System Error:"Intel Inside"| http://medstud.gu.se/~mair SYSTEM ALERT #2 Virus Detected: "Windows 95" | |______Team AMIGA_____________________/boing\__________/bumm\_______/tschak # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lapierrs@cuug.ab.ca (Ra) Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk tributes Date: 28 Jan 1997 22:07:56 -0700 (MST) Heya. I haven't had much time of late to read the mailing list postings, so I don't know if this has already been mentioned. Apologies if this is old news. I just picked up two tribute CDs: "Trancewerk Express vol.I: A Tribute to Kraftwerk" is a collection of 10 covers by various artists plus an intro track with decent vocoder effects. In my personal opinion, the tracks are a decent tribute but pale in comparison to actual Kraftwerk. They lean more toward Ambient than Techno or Techno-Pop, and end up sounding like soft Trance. The tracks are: - Intro - Music Non Stop by Exis 01 - The Robots by Teler's - HomeComputer by Audio Science - Metropolis by Reverse Pulse Envelope - Elektric Cafe by Purttiv J. - Computerworld by Meedom & Wind - Radioactivity by Ultravision - Trans Europe Express by Audio Science - Autobahn by Kirk - The Model by Ikon "Kraftwelt dedicated to Ralf & Florian" by Electric Dimension is (in my opinion) better, though none of the tracks are covers of Kraftwerk and only a few actually sound like Kraftwerk. The tracks are: - The Fiery Angels of Orc - Into the Cabinet - Deranged - Clockworked - Vox Box - Sonar Blow Job - 1187 - Neocafe - Confusion - Interference - The Path - Adventures in Orienta - Suspected Subcity Substances - In the Rubbertree Forest - Voltage - Sci-Fi Memento - Electric Dimension - Wind Blues - Bon Voyage Both are released on the Hypnotic (subset of Cleopatra) label, and both have nice cover art. Trancewerk Exress is black with crash test dummy parts orbiting a blue statue in an atom pattern, and Kraftwelt is red with a factory picture on the back and art deco versions of the four robots on the front. If you want any more information please reply with the same subject or E-mail me directly. :) /*--------------------------------------+---------------------------------* | Soleil "Ra" Lapierre | Contents 55.8% nerd, 89% pure. | | lapierrs@cuug.ab.ca | Myers-Briggs product type INTJ | | http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~lapierrs | (formerly INFJ). | *--------------------------------------+---------------------------------*/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Otso Pakarinen Subject: Re: (kw) What Would a New Kraftwerk LP Album Sound Like... Date: 29 Jan 1997 10:04:24 +0200 Spotnik@aol.com wrote: > > One of the things that strikes me about Kraftwerk, harmonically speaking, is > that they mostly use major and minor chords as the harmonic foundations of > their compositions, with little (no)? use of jazz-like chords such as major > sevenths, 6/9ths, diminished, augmented etc. (Please correct me if I've > missed any obvious examples.) So for Kraftwerk it would be a "new" sound if > they jammed on, say, a Cmaj7-Fmaj7 chord progression, or even a James > Brown-ish "play E9 all f**kin' night!"-type groove. > > snip > So if Kraftwerk were to play a jazz chord progression, in context, it would > sound pretty bizarre. I think it probably would sound like Yellow Magic Orchestra. Otso # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Marcus Fjellström Subject: (kw) New KW Date: 30 Jan 1997 01:00:50 +0100 Tell you what, all! While gazing at the document source of our favourite site (www.kraftwerk.com) it suddenly struck me - might Kraftwerk be planning on releasing their new work on the net exclusively? I was thinking of the "Contents" and all the titles there... seemes like they're planning on something. Jeeves, it might be possible, right? /Marco Pop # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Emanuel Mair Subject: Re: (kw) New KW Date: 29 Jan 1997 17:02:49 +0100 On 30-Jan-97 A.D., Marcus Fjellstr=F6m carved the following runes about "= (kw) New KW": >Tell you what, all! >While gazing at the document source of our favourite site = >(www.kraftwerk.com) it suddenly struck me - might Kraftwerk be planning = >on releasing their new work on the net exclusively? I really hope NOT! Imagine downloading meg after meg of stuff that might even not fit your platform and then not getting cover-art and something physical to frame on the wall! ;) >I was thinking of the "Contents" and all the titles there... = >seemes like they're planning on something. Jeeves, it might be possible,= = >right? As for the "contents", that's just HTML-keywords for www search engines. Gerade aus! -- = ______________________________________________= _ E M A N U E L M A I R // All animals are equal, but some animals are= | mair@medstud.gu.se \\ // more equal than others - Orwell, Animal Far= m| GSM:+46-(0)70-7819014 \X/ SYSTEM ALERT #0.998 System Error:"Intel Inside= "| http://medstud.gu.se/~mair SYSTEM ALERT #2 Virus Detected: "Windows 95" = | |______Team AMIGA_____________________/boing\__________/bumm\_______/tsch= ak= # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Dolf Wiemer Subject: (kw) Kraftwerk Font Date: 29 Jan 1997 17:24:24 +0100 For years I am using a font for my business cards which very much resembles the Kraftwerk Font(e.g. on the Tour de France maxi) It is the font FUTURA from Abode. I have it attached to my Abode Type Manager. Dolf # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: j.carter@juno.com (Jeff C Carter) Subject: Re: (kw) New KW Date: 29 Jan 1997 11:46:36 EST On Thu, 30 Jan 1997 01:00:50 +0100 Marcus Fjellström writes: >Tell you what, all! > >While gazing at the document source of our favourite site >(www.kraftwerk.com) it suddenly struck me - might Kraftwerk be >planning >on releasing their new work on the net exclusively? > >I was thinking of the "Contents" and all the titles there... >seemes like they're planning on something. Jeeves, it might be >possible, >right? > >/Marco Pop I'm sorry but every time I visit that site it just sits there staring back at me, what's supposed to happen? I don't get any sound, all I get is an antenae, with "KRAFTWERK" written at the top and thats it. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Brendan Heading Subject: Re: (kw) (fwd) Re: Neues von KRAFTWERK ? Date: 15 Jan 1997 16:51:05 +0000 Klaus Zaepke was saying: >Found at de.rec.music.elektronisch: >> >Nun ich habe Florian Schneider in einem Interview (!) auf dem KlemDag '96 >> >in Holland gesehen. Er hat dort auch gesagt, das Kraftwerk im Frhjahr >> >ne neue Scheibe herausbringt. >> >> Das war aber nicht Florian Schneider, sondern das ehemalige Kraftwerk- >> Mitglied Wolfgang Flr. So relativiert sich das dann alles wieder... ;-) >Wolfgang Fluer stated at last year's KLEMdag that Kraftwerk would release >a new record in early 1997. Interesting... but how would Wolfgang know if KW were supposed to be releasing a new album ? I'm not sure if they're still even friends or not... -- /=====================================================================\ |Brendan Heading (brendan@heading.demon.co.uk) - Webpage online soon | |Irish Electroacoustic Music Association | JarreVangelisTomitaCarlos | |Synthesizer Freak | |ErasurePinhasTangerineDream | |Alliance Party of Northern Ireland (www.unite.net/customers/Alliance)| \=====================================================================/ "Profanity is the crutch of the inarticulate mot**rf**c*er" - Anon. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) The Mix Date: 29 Jan 1997 13:36:48 EST Why does everyone seem to dis "The Mix"? I was just listening to this joint, and I was bowled over. Who better to remix them than R&F themselves? There are clever samples of their old interpretations interspersed with the re-recorded tracks. So, what's the 411? Besides, the beats are phat. Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lapierrs@cuug.ab.ca (Ra) Subject: (kw) Cover of Electric Cafe Date: 29 Jan 1997 19:21:18 -0700 (MST) It occurs to me that the metallic heads on the cover of Electric Cafe must exist as CAD models out there somewhere. Does anyone know if there are 3D Studio or AutoCad files containing the heads of Kraftwerk? I'd love to get a copy of them. /*--------------------------------------+---------------------------------* | Soleil "Ra" Lapierre | Contents 55.8% nerd, 89% pure. | | lapierrs@cuug.ab.ca | Myers-Briggs product type INTJ | | http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~lapierrs | (formerly INFJ). | *--------------------------------------+---------------------------------*/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: gyrgrls@razorlogic.com Subject: (kw) Changing Servers Date: 29 Jan 1997 22:00:04 -0800 -(really ROBOT)- Hi, Everybody! *ARGH* Today was supposed to be THE DAY!*sigh*! No *NEW* Album yet. I'm totally bummed out. *ARGH* Changing Servers is a Major Pain in the @$$! I found out RazorILLOGIC will NOT forward Email at all! I DON'T want to lose my Contacts! We have to do a complete back-up of everything- Addresses, Files, etc. PLEASE keep checking my "Profile" pages for UPdates- I should be "settled" at my NEW Email Address in a day or 2. I'm HOPING to be ROBOT@wcinet.net as of late Thursday -(Jan. 30th)- or early Friday. -(West Coast Internet has a much better deal than Humboldt.)- But, I wont know the Address for 100% certain until I TEST a few messages, THEN I can UN-subscribe/RE-subscribe to the KW Mail List and SCI-FI BBOARD, etc, and notify everyone of my correct Address. Sorry to be "Off Topic", but, keeping in touch with Fellow Fans is of the utmost importance to me! Also- the phone lines are down in a lot of areas around central Cal due to floods, -(The last storm didn't hit us too bad this far North in the Redwoods. The Earthquake was "fun", though. 5.6, no damage.)- so, it's very difficult to get out on the InterNet right now. Just "FYI", in case anyone is concerned about contacting folks in the flooded ares. A lot of people are OFF-LINE for a while! Many homes & livestock were lost. Please think kind thoughts for all the people who have suffered losses out here.... KEEP IN TOUCH! ROBOT http://www.ypn.com/personal/pages/ROBOT http://www.scifi.com -(/members/lounge/profiles/R/ROBOT)- # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Future808@aol.com Subject: (kw) A few questions... Date: 30 Jan 1997 03:23:28 -0500 (EST) Could someone direct me to a translation of "Tour De France"? I can only understand about half of it. Also, does anyone know what synth is used for the bass lines in said song? Thank you all. Love this list. Nat # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Otso Pakarinen Subject: Re: (kw) Cover of Electric Cafe Date: 30 Jan 1997 11:02:56 +0200 Ra wrote: > > It occurs to me that the metallic heads on the cover of Electric Cafe > must exist as CAD models out there somewhere. Does anyone know if there > are 3D Studio or AutoCad files containing the heads of Kraftwerk? I'd > love to get a copy of them. AFAIK they were modelled at NYIT with a proprietary 3D software so it's not likely that they can be found anywhere in a format that is readable by some commercial 3D software. Now there's a suitable pastime for some Kraftwerk fan having access to a decent 3D program and lots of spare time. Make replicas of the Kraftwerk head models and release them for downloading. See how soon Ralf&Florian are going to sue you! You could actually get in contact with the guys! Or at least their lawyers... Otso # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Kess <101451.3333@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: (kw) The Mix Date: 30 Jan 1997 09:05:03 EST >Why does everyone seem to dis "The Mix"? Hy Adam, at least not everyone, although I've to admit, that at first, I was disappointed. It took several years for them to compilate and remix this. I wished thy spent their time into developing new material. I think the fun part is this change of opinion in "stop radioactivity" That's clear progress. I like listening to "It's more fun to compute". I think this is a good remix, with all that echos in that bubble sound, they really did a job on that song. Weak is "robots" and the intro of "pocket calculator", that becomes better at the end, especially when becomes "dentaku". I'm curiuos, whether they will do a new album and I hope it's not so bassdrum related than the "MIX".I hope they don't go for that, because it's commercial. regards Oliver +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ my homepage is: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/oliver_k/ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "CHIRIATTI CLAUDIO" Subject: (kw) Computerwelt Date: 30 Jan 1997 16:58:02 MET Sorry, but I have to come up with another question. On the inner sleeve photo of the german CD release of Computerwelt (the photo where you can see the band dummies behind their control-panels in front-view) all four dummies have something on their shirts on their right breast. To me it looks like their wearing sun-collectors :-) (maybe to charge the robots with energy ;-) ). Who knows something more about this ? Thanks Claudio Claudio G. Chiriatti e-mail:chir3301@uni-trier.de Civilization is the enemy of humanity Sturm und Klang fuer jedermann # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andy.Swann@psygnosis.co.uk Subject: re:(kw) Computerwelt Date: 30 Jan 1997 17:37:30 +0000 Andy Swann 30/01/97 17:37 >all four dummies have something on their shirts on >their right breast.Who knows something more about this ? I think that they each have a bit of circuit board with their names written on in solder. If you look very closely at the LP cover, you can just make out the words 'Karl Bartos' . The others are obscured. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lapierrs@cuug.ab.ca (Ra) Subject: Re: (kw) Cover of Electric Cafe Date: 30 Jan 1997 11:10:28 -0700 (MST) On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, Otso Pakarinen wrote: > > It occurs to me that the metallic heads on the cover of Electric Cafe > > must exist as CAD models out there somewhere. Does anyone know if there > > are 3D Studio or AutoCad files containing the heads of Kraftwerk? I'd > > love to get a copy of them. > > AFAIK they were modelled at NYIT with a proprietary 3D software so it's > not likely that they can be found anywhere in a format that is readable > by some commercial 3D software. Argh. I might have quessed. > Now there's a suitable pastime for some Kraftwerk fan having access to a > decent 3D program and lots of spare time. Make replicas of the Kraftwerk > head models and release them for downloading. See how soon Ralf&Florian > are going to sue you! You could actually get in contact with the guys! Or > at least their lawyers... If I had the time and the skill and the software I'd do it. I doubt they'd sue (except as a lawyer-beast reflex), but I just wouldn't put my name on the files. /*--------------------------------------+---------------------------------* | Soleil "Ra" Lapierre | Contents 55.8% nerd, 89% pure. | | lapierrs@cuug.ab.ca | Myers-Briggs product type INTJ | | http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~lapierrs | (formerly INFJ). | *--------------------------------------+---------------------------------*/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lapierrs@cuug.ab.ca (Ra) Subject: Re: (kw) The Mix Date: 30 Jan 1997 11:14:51 -0700 (MST) On 30 Jan 1997, Oliver Kess wrote: > >Why does everyone seem to dis "The Mix"? I wonder if those that do so prefer the older sounds of R&F. > at least not everyone, although I've to admit, that at first, I was > disappointed. It took several years for them to compilate and remix this. I instantly loved The Mix. Mainly because it extended the bass range so much over older KW, and because they remixed themselves. > I like listening to "It's more fun to compute". I think this is a good > remix, with all that echos in that bubble sound, they really did a job on That's an awesome track. I've used it to introduce a couple of my friends to KW because it's practically a nerd anthem. In my opinion, The Mix in one of KW's two best albums - the other being Computer World. /*--------------------------------------+---------------------------------* | Soleil "Ra" Lapierre | Contents 55.8% nerd, 89% pure. | | lapierrs@cuug.ab.ca | Myers-Briggs product type INTJ | | http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~lapierrs | (formerly INFJ). | *--------------------------------------+---------------------------------*/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) The Mix #2 Date: 30 Jan 1997 14:06:11 EST >>> Weak is "robots" and the intro of "pocket calculator" <<< There's another mix of "The Robots" called "Robotronik" (or something like that), that wasn't on the album itself, that I prefer, actually. However, it's out-of-print. I copied it off a promotional CD that was at the radio station I used to DJ at when I went to a "real" college. >>> In my opinion, The Mix in one of KW's two best albums - the other being Computer World. <<< I 'gree with that, but my other favorite KW album besides "The Mix" is "Electric Cafe," naah mean? Why does everyone dis that one as well? It's got the best beats. Biggest problem with their old albums: TOO FUCKING SHORT!!!! Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) The Mix Date: 30 Jan 1997 15:04:35 -0500 (EST) >> >Why does everyone seem to dis "The Mix"? > >I wonder if those that do so prefer the older sounds of R&F. I would imagine that most Kraftwerk fans who were disappointed by 'The Mix' would for the most part also not be overly enthused with their early material (1970-1973) either. It's probably safe to say that by and large, the majority of Kraftwerk fans consider the band's "capitol years" + 'Computer World' to be representative of their best work. So basically this would cover the span of time from 1974-1981. The albums, starting with 'Autobahn' and ending with 'Computer World' seem to be the essential albums in the canon of Kraftwerk's worldwide popularity. I personally love all of Kraftwerk's material, and have yet to listen to any Kraftwerk song that one might deem "inferior". My love and aesthetic need for Kraftwerk's older material has certainly not clouded my ears and caused me to dislike 'The Mix' in any way. It's a wonderful album with many merits to speak of, and perhaps a few symbolic statements to be made as well. Surely everyone has their favorites, but all in all I respect and love the entire length of Kraftwerk's continuing evolution, beginning with Organisation's 'Tone Float' and most recently incarnating itself as 'The Mix'. Who knows what's next. Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill mbarnhil@email.gc.cuny.edu "I'm the antenna, catching vibration..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Scott M. Barnhill" Subject: Re: (kw) The Mix #2 Date: 30 Jan 1997 15:17:13 -0500 (EST) >There's another mix of "The Robots" called "Robotronik" (or something >like that), that wasn't on the album itself, that I prefer, actually. >However, it's out-of-print. I copied it off a promotional CD that was at >the radio station I used to DJ at when I went to a "real" college. It's called "Robotronik (Kling Klang Mix)" and it's present on the promo CD single for 'The Robots', 1991. For those of you who have seen Kraftwerk perform live during their tour for 'The Mix', "Robotronik" was played right after the regular Mix version of "The Robots" ended and the KW robots rose up from the floor onto the stage. Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill mbarnhil@email.gc.cuny.edu "We're charging our battery..." # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Oliver Kess <101451.3333@CompuServe.COM> Subject: (kw) Yet untitled new CD Date: 30 Jan 1997 15:00:08 EST Hy, has anybody orderd that new CD of Kraftwerk, that is sold by www.cdeurope.com? I would like to know, if they did comment about the availability of that CD. regards Oliver # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Tommy Menheere Subject: Re: (kw) The Mix #2 Date: 30 Jan 1997 23:52:05 +0100 Hello, This is my first posting on this list. I'm a quite young Krafwerk fan, I'm 18 an I barely know nothing of their work. But I have some vinyl, incuding "Die Roboter"... On 30-Jan-97, Scott M. Barnhill wrote: > >There's another mix of "The Robots" called "Robotronik" (or something > >like that), that wasn't on the album itself, that I prefer, actually. > >However, it's out-of-print. I copied it off a promotional CD that was at > >the radio station I used to DJ at when I went to a "real" college. > It's called "Robotronik (Kling Klang Mix)" and it's present on the > promo CD single for 'The Robots', 1991. For those of you who have seen > Kraftwerk perform live during their tour for 'The Mix', "Robotronik" was > played right after the regular Mix version of "The Robots" ended and the KW > robots rose up from the floor onto the stage. The track "Robotronik (Kling Klang Mix)" (duration: 4:51)is also on the 12" of "Die Roboter" from 1991. I have it right here. It has also a nice German version of "The Robots",called (strangely;-)) "Die Roboter"! > Robotically Yours, > Scott M. Barnhill > mbarnhil@email.gc.cuny.edu > "We're charging our battery..." "Untill we're full of energy..." Greets from Holland Tommy. -- ________Tommy Menheere\ \______ \ /\ /\/\\ \ \ / \ / \\ \_\/_/\_\/_/\/\_\\tommym@sci.kun.nl # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: lapierrs@cuug.ab.ca (Ra) Subject: Re: (kw) The Mix Date: 30 Jan 1997 20:40:49 -0700 (MST) On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, Scott M. Barnhill wrote: > >> >Why does everyone seem to dis "The Mix"? > >I wonder if those that do so prefer the older sounds of R&F. > I personally love all of Kraftwerk's material, and have yet to > listen to any Kraftwerk song that one might deem "inferior". My love and I pretty much agree, though I do have preferences as I mentioned. I also consider Autobahn to be the worst tune KW has ever produced. I fail to see why it ever became popular. > and love the entire length of Kraftwerk's continuing evolution, beginning > with Organisation's 'Tone Float' and most recently incarnating itself as > 'The Mix'. Who knows what's next. I have yet to hear Tone Float. I think I have everything since then except the German releases. /*--------------------------------------+---------------------------------* | Soleil "Ra" Lapierre | Contents 55.8% nerd, 89% pure. | | lapierrs@cuug.ab.ca | Myers-Briggs product type INTJ | | http://www.cuug.ab.ca:8001/~lapierrs | (formerly INFJ). | *--------------------------------------+---------------------------------*/ # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Klaus Zaepke" Subject: (kw) Tribal Gathering Date: 31 Jan 1997 11:35:33 +0000 > I received a long distance phone call from a (reliable) friend in > the UK yesterday who says that MTV has officially confirmed Kraftwerk's > appearance at the Tribal Gathering in May. MTV is hardly able to issue official confirmations in the name of Universe, I'm afraid... Anyway, the definitive line-up for the Tribal Gathering will be officially announced on February 7th, according to a Universe spokesman. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Manno Toshikazu Subject: Re: (kw) News from Japan about new album. Date: 31 Jan 1997 18:43:22 +900 (JST) Hello all Kraftwerk fans This is Manno form Japan. I'll tell you the new(?) CD from Japan. It's form 'CD Journal' Title: Computer World CD No.:TOCP-8474 Price:2,500yen Release date:21th .Jan (It has been postponed?) Song list 1.Computer World 2.Pocket Calculator 3.Numbers 4.Computer World 2 5.Computer love 6.Home Computer 7.It's more fun to Computer (Computer wa boku no omocha) 8.Dentaku ('Pocket Calculator'Japanese Version) 9.Tour de France 10.Tour de France(Instrumental) Regards Manno Toshikazu manno@kenwood.co.jp # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Yet another new album speculation Date: 31 Jan 1997 16:34:17 +0100 (NFT) Just for the statistics: In Zillo 2/1997 it is written that Kraftwerk are allegedly working on a new CD at the moment... Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: D.KRSIC@ZAMIR-ZG.ZTN.APC.ORG (Dejan Krsic) Subject: (kw) SiteProblem Date: 31 Jan 1997 11:08:58 +0200 Hi, im using Mac, with Netscape 3.01, every time i wait long enough for sound to load on www.kraftwerk.com site all I get is *Sistem error*! Whats wrong? I want to her that sound! Does anybody else have simillar problems? Second, Im prepering my WWW site. I have some *artworks* with Kraftwerk motives. Should I use them? Or I could get sued? Any ideas? Talking bout Doepfler I havent noticed that anybody mentioned SHALTWERK! Name is so obvious, and description is quite like something Hutter and Schnaider said whne they explained how they play pre-sequenced things live, but really play not just stand looking at the machines! Does anybody know more about SHALTWERK!? Any experience? Price? It seems to me that Kraftwerk and Doepfler are connected more then we think! Thanx Dejan Arkzin http://www.arkzin.com # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: muziknut2@juno.com (Adam Schefflan) Subject: (kw) Drum & Bass Date: 31 Jan 1997 13:53:25 EST I don't know 'bout you, fellow 'werking brothas & sistas, but d&b is one genre that KW's music should never embrace. Nothing against d&b, I happen to like Goldie very much, but it just doesn't suit KW's music, naah mean? Peace. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Live? Date: 31 Jan 1997 20:11:09 +0100 (NFT) > something Hutter and Schnaider said whne they explained how they play > pre-sequenced things live, but really play not just stand looking at > the machines! But just standing there and looking at the machines is exactly what they do during their concerts, isn't it? Or is it sufficient to qualify as "live" if they press a button once every three minutes or so, as they did during their 1993 concerts? And the fact that they press a button now and then must not necessarily mean that this has any effect to the music. For example, I remember a concert where Ralf Huetter played (or seemed to play) the melody line for "Musique non stop". On another concert he didn't even touch the keyboard, and the music remained exactly the same... I would be very interested in other observations/opinions. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: j.carter@juno.com (Jeff C Carter) Subject: (kw) Information?? Date: 31 Jan 1997 12:05:51 EST Hello, I was wondering if anyone here knew of where I can purchase Kraftwerk music videos or concert videos (if they ever made concert videos) I've unfortunatley never seen any of them and they are hard to find. Do you have a place that I can contact about placing an order for these items? Thanks. Jeff -boing boom tschack!- Techno-pop. # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: j.carter@juno.com (Jeff C Carter) Subject: Re: (kw) Live? Date: 31 Jan 1997 14:44:21 EST >And the fact that they press a button now and then must not >necessarily >mean that this has any effect to the music. For example, I remember a >concert where Ralf Huetter played (or seemed to play) the melody line >for >"Musique non stop". On another concert he didn't even touch the >keyboard, >and the music remained exactly the same... >I would be very interested in other observations/opinions. > > Klaus Zaepke > I used to play in an electronic band and we were influenced by Kraftwerk from the very beginning. My philosophy was to interact as little as possible with the machines, to allow them to be incessantly repetitious. I was struck by a Kraftwerk interview where they mentioned the Bauhaus movement of allowing the beauty of the structure and technology come forth instead of disguising it behind wood panel and such. Also a lot of kraftwerkian theme is based on an automated society, and their music reflects that. [NOTICE: This message was delayed on its way to the list because it contained excess quoted text, which has been automatically removed. To prevent this from happening to your messages, be sure to include as little text as possible from the message you are responding to.] # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klaus Zaepke Subject: (kw) Live? Date: 31 Jan 1997 17:52:43 +0100 (NFT) > something Hutter and Schnaider said whne they explained how they play > pre-sequenced things live, but really play not just stand looking at > the machines! But just standing there and looking at the machines is exactly what they do during their concerts, isn't it? Or is it sufficient to qualify as "live" if they press a button once every three minutes or so, as they did during their 1993 concerts? And the fact that they press a button now and then must not necessarily mean that this has any effect to the music. For example, I remember a concert where Ralf Huetter played (or seemed to play) the melody line for "Musique non stop". On another concert he didn't even touch the keyboard, and the music remained exactly the same... I would be very interested in other observations/opinions. Klaus Zaepke # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Justin Barrett Subject: Re: (kw) A few questions... Date: 31 Jan 1997 08:52:06 -0800 At 03:23 AM 1/30/97 -0500, Future808@aol.com wrote: >Could someone direct me to a translation of "Tour De France"? Here's a translation I picked up from the web site of Anders Wilhelm, another Kraftwerk fan. He's got transcriptions (and translations) of almost all KW's lyrics on his site. The URL for his main KW page is below, and following that is the "Tour de France" translation. http://www.cs.umu.se/tsdf/kraftwerk/ Tour de France --------------- L'enfer du Nord Paris - Roubaix La Cote d'Azur et Saint Tropez Les Alpes et les Pyrennees Derniere etape Champs-Elysees Galibier et Tourmalet En danseuse jusqu'au sommet Pedaler en grand braquet Sprint final a l'arrivee Crevaison sur les paves Le velo vite repare Le peloton est regroupe Camarades et amitie Translation ----------- The hell of Northern Paris - Roubaix The Cote d'Azur and Saint Tropez The Alps and the Pyrenees Last stage Champs-Elysees Galibier and Tourmalet (2 mountains) Dancing even on the top Bicycling at high gear Final sprint at the finish Flat tire on the paving-stones The bicycle is repaired quickly The peloton is regrouped Comrades and friendship -----------------Justin Barrett----------------- Owner: Dreamscape Productions Production Assistant: Northland Cable Television # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: J P M Subject: Re: (kw) Live? Date: 31 Jan 1997 21:46:09 +0000 Ralph Huetter uses a function on the Synclavier in wich you can assign patterns from a sequencer ,to a key on the keyboard (like the K-20000) For example The C key could be the main pattern The D could be the verse so on and so forth... This would explain why there is very little movement by Ralph......Karl and Wolfgang (or whom ever is standing in this week) basically do the same with drum sequencers (kinda like the arp with a hell of a lot more notes) Florian changes the sounds levels ,mix......among other things...... Jason The Pygmy Taxi Corp http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/ Vocod'o'rama http://www.spacelab.net/~mugen/vocolist.html # Need help using (or leaving) this mailing list? # Email majordomo@xmission.com with "info kraftwerk" in the message. # Postings must go to kraftwerk@xmission.com -- replies go to original sender.