From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #349 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Friday, 1 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 349 alt.music.kraftwerk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: 31 Aug 1995 23:10:00 +0200 Subject: alt.music.kraftwerk Really-From: andreas@compusic.ping.de (Andreas Kuckartz) When was the last vote for a new newsgroup alt.music.kraftwerk (or similar)? - ---------------------------------------- from Andreas Kuckartz, Dortmund, Germany ## CrossPoint v3.02 ## ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #349 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #350 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Saturday, 2 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 350 Moroder "Reworking" of 'Autobahn' RE: "Reworking" of 'Autobahn' alt.music.kraftwerk I HATE KRAFTWERK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Re: I HATE KRAFTWERK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 18:31:02 +0100 (BST) Subject: Moroder Really-From: Kevin Busby Erik Knain wrote:- | Recently, I heard a Donna Summer song called "I feel love" that was really | astonishing. | It sounded so kraftwerkisch! The song was recorded in 1977 and made by | Giorgio Moroder (who BTW also created the Bowie-song "Cat poeple", and | "Flashdance"). [...] | In short, I find it hard to belive that these similarities are just | accidental, "Die Mench Machine" is usually regarded as very much ahead of | its time. Therefore, does anyone know if there were any meetings or | collaboration between KW and Moroder around 1977? (Pascal Bussy does not | mention Moroder in his book.) IMHO it's more likely a result of common influences and common technology? saxmania@rci.ripco.com (Sax Therapy) wrote:- | The Giorgio Moroder album I really like is Einzelganger. It came out at the | same time as Donna Summer's first LP in 1975. It's all electronic and | excellent. In a review I wrote about the album, I described it as | Kraftwerk played sideways. I'm sure this album is long out of print. Is | there anybody else on the list who is fortunate to own a copy of this | LP? It's Oasis OCLP 5001. Yes, it has some good material on it (apart from the appallingly twee title track, which appears twice!). I particularly like the doomy 'Aus'. I think the 'Einzelgaenger' LP (credited to 'Einzelgaenger' rather than Moroder, btw) fits quite well into the German electronic music field of the time, concentrating as it does on minimal synthesiser supported by drum machine and cheaply processed voice. Perhaps above I should have added "a common budget"? ;-) NDKent@aol.com wrote:- | It would have been a thousand times better to get the synchroniation rights | to KWs METROPOLIS, get tracking rights Edgar Froese's METROPOLIS from the | infamous AGES LP and then track the rest of the film with Klaus Schulze. Couldn't agree more! (I always fancied having a go doing this for my own enjoyment, but never bothered!). | Back when COMPUTERWORLD came out, one of my friends would spout | "It's more fun to compute" and "Fahrn fahrn auf der Autobahn" when lacking | anything else to say. He later became a minister. ROTFL... A must for the sig file! Kevin - -- http://sun1.bham.ac.uk/busbykg/kraftwerk.html - list of Kraftwerk WWW pages. ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 18:32:51 +0100 (BST) Subject: "Reworking" of 'Autobahn' Really-From: Kevin Busby A friend of mine just emailed me the following from 'Record Collector' magazine. > "Kraftwerk's 'Autobahn' gets a thorough reworking from Mick and Pat from > Prolapse, whose Cha Cha 2000 release their first record on the Lissy's label. > It's available on 10". > "Forthcoming Lissy's titles include 7"s from Billy Childish, Singing Loins > and the New Bad Things." Record Collector (193) Sept. 1995, p. 6. Hmmm. ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 14:49:56 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RE: "Reworking" of 'Autobahn' Really-From: MCINTYRE@pa.msu.edu >Really-From: Kevin Busby > "Kraftwerk's 'Autobahn' gets a thorough reworking from Mick and Pat from > Prolapse, whose Cha Cha 2000 release their first record on the Lissy's label. > It's available on 10". Ooh, we're getting quite incestuous here. "Cha Cha 2000" is La Dusseldorf song title, La Dusseldorf being Klaus and Thomas Dinger. (-8 John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 16:37:31 -0600 (MDT) Subject: alt.music.kraftwerk Really-From: Lazlo Nibble > When was the last vote for a new newsgroup alt.music.kraftwerk (or > similar)? As far as I know nobody's ever taken a Kraftwerk newsgroup to a vote. (Alt groups aren't voted on, either.) Laz ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 1 Sep 1995 22:53:28 -0400 Subject: I HATE KRAFTWERK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really-From: Nthings@aol.com I HATE KRAFTWERK AND I WANT TO GET OFF THIS LIST ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 00:04:56 -0400 Subject: Re: I HATE KRAFTWERK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really-From: NLavely@aol.com In a message dated 95-09-01 23:11:40 EDT, you write: > >I HATE KRAFTWERK AND I WANT TO GET OFF THIS LIST why did you sign up for it? geeze, it's people like you that give us cool AOLers a bad name! Nick ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #350 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #351 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Sunday, 3 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 351 Hate Kraftwerk? The Telephone Call 7" for sale RE: alt.music.kraftwerk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 04:34:29 -0400 Subject: Hate Kraftwerk? Really-From: DMODE4@aol.com If you hate Kraftwerk so much why are you even on this list. Please do remove yourself so the real fans,us, who know what real music is can have intelligent talk about the band while you go drown your pity little sorrows in Nirvava. Wow I got madder than I though! :> DMODE4@aol.com Monique Melly ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 10:57:10 -0400 Subject: The Telephone Call 7" for sale Really-From: NLavely@aol.com Hello people, A company I buy imports from recently sent me a extra copy of this even though I didn't order it, so I am selling it for $7 US. Please send any offers to NLavely@aol.com Thanks, Nick ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sat, 2 Sep 1995 16:17:27 +0100 Subject: RE: alt.music.kraftwerk Really-From: D.A.Doherty@ste0405.wins.icl.co.uk unsubscribe kraftwerk ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #351 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #352 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Monday, 4 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 352 need info for non-netted Kraftwerk fan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sun, 3 Sep 1995 11:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: need info for non-netted Kraftwerk fan Really-From: Elana who? Hi, folks! :) Here's a surprise for a friend... Without him knowing it, I am writing on behalf of a non-netted Kraftwerk fan named Bruce Atchison in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada who NEEDS Kraftwerk info, Kraftwerk info, lots and LOTS of Kraftwerk info!!! I'm talking anything that would make a non-netter of a Kraftwerk fan feel like they are in Kraftwerk information heaven. :) He is legally blind, but he has a voice synthsizer which can read ASCII stuff out loud from disk for his ears to hear. So I am trying to find good info for him to read/hear. Perhaps (hope, hope!) there is a fan who lives in his city for him to talk to? Anyone here from Edmonton? THAT would be cool...! :) In the meanwhile, I am preparing a disk of various Cool Stuff for him to peruse. I can at least give him THAT much. Any thoughts and suggestions are appreciated. Bruce is a very cool nice guy (also an amateur musician) who gets waaaay too much life-@#%! thrown at him on top of not being able to see too well so methinks he really deserves whatever positive vibes which can somehow flow in his direction. Thanks, folks! :) - -Elana ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #352 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #353 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Tuesday, 5 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 353 RE: Kraftwerk Press Articles Kraftwerk's Technology RE: Kraftwerk items ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 95 03:29:35 PDT Subject: RE: Kraftwerk Press Articles Really-From: mouat@tpone.telepac.pt (Paulo Mouat) >I'm a serious collector of any Kraftwerk press articles and reviews, so I >would like to ask if somebody is interested in a swap of photocopies or >originals. I'm likewise interested in any press articles/reviews on Kraftwerk, although I don't have much. I have two originals, Music Technology and Keyboards (the french magazine, not to be confused with the Keyboard magazine). The Music Tech article is very common but I never seen any reference in this list to the Keyboards article (title 'Les Robots parlent', Ralf interviewed). I have also an article on Elektric Music from Music Tech, with an interview with Bartos himself. I'd like to swap or buy photocopies, if none of the above interests you. Sempre staccato, Paulo. ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 95 03:41:49 PDT Subject: Kraftwerk's Technology Really-From: mouat@tpone.telepac.pt (Paulo Mouat) I have recently browsed the past contents of the list and found that one of the subjects discussed pertained to the synthesizers Kraftwerk used throughout their career. I recall someone referring to the synths pictured in the Music Tech magazine on occasion of the The Mix tour as unknown. Those white keyboards are the interface to the big closet-like modules of the Synclavier 9600 tapeless studio. I can provide deeper information on this music workstation. BTW, one of the reasons of Bartos' leaving the Dusseldorf band was precisely the 'inflexibility' and 'dependence' that this big machine forced on any satellite equipment. Elektric Music's approach to the use of synthesizers is the reverse: Several small music modules (if my memory is correct, their equipment was basically five samplers containing all analogue sounds and speech phonemes) controlled by a C1 Yamaha music computer. My membership in the list is quite recent and so please excuse me if I'm bringing a subject long closed. ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 95 04:22:10 PDT Subject: RE: Kraftwerk items Really-From: mouat@tpone.telepac.pt (Paulo Mouat) >3 video tapes with live recordings from 1990/1991, 7 audio tapes with more or >less interesting recordings (live, remixes etc.) and ca. 200 photocopies with >press articles etc. (several languages). >I would like to sell these items together for ca. DM 50,00 + postage. I'm interested in buying the material only if the videos are in VHS-PAL format. I'm not particularly interested in the audio tapes, though. ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #353 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #354 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Wednesday, 6 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 354 Re: New KW Album. Radiactivity remix '91 (CD single) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 5 Sep 95 12:32:10 +0200 Subject: Re: New KW Album. Really-From: lels@geo.vu.nl (Sander_Lelieveld) - ----- Begin Included Message ----- Hi Scott: Your information was both exciting and depressing as I had heard through a fairly reliable grapevine that there was actually new, real material coming. I hope you are half right! - ----- End Included Message ----- So, there we go again ! Rumours, rumours and even more rumours. Nobody can say anything about a new KW release, except when it is already there! DON'T YOU KNOW THIS BY NOW ??? Sander Lelieveld ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 05 Sep 1995 08:15:55 +0800 (U) Subject: Radiactivity remix '91 (CD single) Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." I was able to track down a copy of this one. The Kevorkian remix is pretty good but the William Orbit remix kicks ass! VERY Electrik Musicish. It sounds like Karl Bartos borrowed heavily from either this mix or from Orbit's style for a lot of the sounds on his recording. By the way, I got it from a local second hand CD/Record store. It seems that a woman sold off her husbands (ex- husband or ex-boyfriend) record and CD collection and this was in there. Let that be a lesson to you guys. If you wind up leaving, take your Kraftwerk with you!! Lon freeman@msmail.bms.com ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #354 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #355 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Thursday, 7 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 355 Re: Kraftwerk's Technology ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 6 Sep 1995 10:17:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Kraftwerk's Technology Really-From: OMEGA Hi all! Speaking of Kraftwerk's equipment, what wadid they use in their early day? And more specifically during their Capitol years? Is it a mellotron or Chamberlain that they use (amongst a plethora of others)? That's the instrument that provides the choir voices in Radio-activity, the lead line in TEE, etc. - -------------- omega@io.org small sig, eh? - -------------- ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #355 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #356 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Wednesday, 13 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 356 Tour de France Cover version Re: Tour de France Cover version RE: Tour de France Cover version RE: Videos RE: Videos ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 14:46:58 +0800 (U) Subject: Tour de France Cover version Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." Today I picked up a 2 track CD with 12" versions of Thomas Dolby's 'She blinded me with Science' (time-5:05) and 10 Speed's cover of 'Tour de France' (time 6:47). 10 Speed's version is pretty faithful to the original but it's nothing spectacular. The CD is distributed by Unidisk Music Inc., Quebec, Canada. #SP5-1705. It looks like it's one of a series '12 inch Classics on CD' copyrighted 1994. Just thought I'd mention it. Lon freeman@msmail.bms.com ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 12:44:06 -0700 Subject: Re: Tour de France Cover version Really-From: sellers@mail.sdsu.edu (Darrell Sellers) can you get get a second copy ?? >>> sellers@mail.sdsu.edu >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." > > >Today I picked up a 2 track CD with 12" versions of Thomas Dolby's 'She >blinded me with Science' (time-5:05) and 10 Speed's cover of 'Tour de France' >(time 6:47). 10 Speed's version is pretty faithful to the original but it's >nothing spectacular. The CD is distributed by Unidisk Music Inc., Quebec, >Canada. #SP5-1705. It looks like it's one of a series '12 inch Classics on >CD' copyrighted 1994. > >Just thought I'd mention it. > >Lon >freeman@msmail.bms.com > > ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 16:43:56 +0800 (U) Subject: RE: Tour de France Cover version Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." >Today I picked up a 2 track CD with 12" versions of Thomas Dolby's 'She >blinded me with Science' (time-5:05) and 10 Speed's cover of 'Tour de France' >(time 6:47). 10 Speed's version is pretty faithful to the original but it's >nothing spectacular. The CD is distributed by Unidisk Music Inc., Quebec, >Canada. #SP5-1705. It looks like it's one of a series '12 inch Classics on >CD' copyrighted 1994. > >Just thought I'd mention it. > >Lon >freeman@msmail.bms.com >>Really-From: sellers@mail.sdsu.edu (Darrell Sellers) >>can you get get a second copy ?? >>> sellers@mail.sdsu.edu It was in with the regular Thomas Dolby stuff and It's the only one they had. I got it at 'Compact Disk World' in New Jersey. You may be able to order it from your local CD store with that product number. Lon freeman@msmail.bms.com p.s. Anyone know if the upcoming September KW re-issues from Capitol are actually Remasters? ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 18:44:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RE: Videos Really-From: OMEGA Hi. I had made a tape of Kraftwerk videos for someone on this list, but I lost all his info (e-mail, postal). Wherever you are, please contact me at omega@io.org because the tape is ready to be mailed. Sorry about the screw-up! :( - -------------- omega@io.org small sig, eh? - -------------- ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 17:22:25 -0700 Subject: RE: Videos Really-From: sellers@mail.sdsu.edu (Darrell Sellers) IT's me Darrell sellers, from San Diego!!! thx for making the tape, I'll send you the $$ for the postage.. ///////////////////////////////////////// sellers@mail.sdsu.edu >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Really-From: OMEGA > > >Hi. > > I had made a tape of Kraftwerk videos for someone on this list, >but I lost all his info (e-mail, postal). Wherever you are, please >contact me at omega@io.org because the tape is ready to be mailed. Sorry >about the screw-up! :( > >-------------- >omega@io.org >small sig, eh? >-------------- > > > ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #356 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #357 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Thursday, 14 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 357 Ralf Huetter trivia Rumours UK re-releases Q 10/1995 KW mentioned on Stern. US re-releases Re: KW mentioned on Stern. Re: KW mentioned on Stern. Re: KW mentioned on Stern. Sorry all: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 11:36:00 MET+100 Subject: Ralf Huetter trivia Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" 'Q' 10/1995 reports that Ralf Huetter spent his holidays following the Tour de France by bike. Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 11:34:17 MET+100 Subject: Rumours Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" > So, there we go again ! Rumours, rumours and even more rumours. > Nobody can say anything about a new KW release, except when it is > already there! That's true, but this time it seems that there's some substance behind the rumours. The October issue of the 'Q' magazine reports that Kraftwerk have informed their record company that there will be a new release "sometime in 1996". Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 11:35:18 MET+100 Subject: UK re-releases Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" It appears that the following Kraftwerk CD's have been or will soon be re-released on midprice in the UK: - Autobahn - Trans Europe Express - Electric Cafe Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 11:34:48 MET+100 Subject: Q 10/1995 Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" The latest issue of the 'Q' magazine contains a free tape. Among the included tracks is "The Model". Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 10:03:12 EST Subject: KW mentioned on Stern. Really-From: mdb@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu Fellow Kraftwerkians, At the very moment I am writing this letter at 10:00 am on Wednesday, 9/13, I am also listening to Howard Stern's radio show here in New York City on 92.3 FM. He just interviewed two DJs from Germany, and I thought that you would find it interesting to know that he just mentioned Kraftwerk quite a bit. As you probably know, Stern will poke fun at just about everything, himself included, so I assure you that he did not sing KW's praises. He spent most of the last hour making fun of Germany with tasteless humor about the Holocaust, etc... When on the subject of German music today, Stern asked if people in Germany still listen to KW. He proceeded to give his own sad but priceless rendition of 'Autobahn'. The German DJs replied by saying that the German people aren't still listening to KW. My question is, where ARE people still listening to KW? I'd hate to think that we're the last of a dying breed. Robotically Yours, Scott M. Barnhill "Even the greatest stars..." ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 16:38:46 MET+100 Subject: US re-releases Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" At least two of the three forthcoming US Kraftwerk CD-re-releases on Capitol will be digitally remastered: "Trans Europe Express" and "The Man Machine". Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 16:12:58 +0100 (BST) Subject: Re: KW mentioned on Stern. Really-From: Richard Ingram > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: mdb@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu > The German DJs replied by saying > that the German people aren't still listening to KW. My question is, > where ARE people still listening to KW? I'd hate to think that we're > the last of a dying breed. Well after the releae of The Robots from the Mix just about everyone hence them getting high in the UK charts and the Album doing pretty well as well, obviously we can't or rather the general public can't listen to Kraftwerk now as they have no chart presence, but the fans will be listening and I do play my KW CDs every so often along with my other German Artists KS TD CF etc. One thing all the German friends I speak to have heard of KW but not KS TD of CF and sometimes not even KW !! Richard. ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 10:26:45 CDT Subject: Re: KW mentioned on Stern. Really-From: norz@trojan.convex.com (Gregory Norz) > Fellow Kraftwerkians, > > At the very moment I am writing this letter at 10:00 am on > Wednesday, 9/13, I am also listening to Howard Stern's radio show here > in New York City on 92.3 FM. He just interviewed two DJs from > Germany, and I thought that you would find it interesting to know that > he just mentioned Kraftwerk quite a bit. As you probably know, Stern > will poke fun at just about everything, himself included, so I assure > you that he did not sing KW's praises. He spent most of the last hour > making fun of Germany with tasteless humor about the Holocaust, etc... > When on the subject of German music today, Stern asked if people in > Germany still listen to KW. He proceeded to give his own sad but > priceless rendition of 'Autobahn'. The German DJs replied by saying > that the German people aren't still listening to KW. My question is, > where ARE people still listening to KW? I'd hate to think that we're > the last of a dying breed. > > Robotically Yours, > Scott M. Barnhill > > "Even the greatest stars..." > Well, up until 2 weeks ago, I hadn't even HEARD ANY Kraftwerk tune. Now, I just can't seem to get enough. There's not much to say other than that I find their songs brilliant. So the breed here, and among some of my friends who now enjoy Kraftwerk, is just being to live! And with the remaster (or whatever they are) coming out in 2 weeks, maybe a bit more interest in KW will emerge. Then again, one would wonder why the record company would issue a re-release for a 'dying' group. greg ************************************************************************* Gregory R. Norz 3000 Waterview Parkway Convex Computer Corporation Richardson, TX 75083 Configuration Analyst (214) 497-4199 Email : norz@convex.com "Just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning; it shows the world that you've got substance and depth..." - Pet Shop Boys ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 1995 13:23:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: KW mentioned on Stern. Really-From: MCINTYRE@pa.msu.edu >Really-From: norz@trojan.convex.com (Gregory Norz) >And with the remaster (or >whatever they are) coming out in 2 weeks, maybe a bit more interest in KW >will emerge. Then again, one would wonder why the record company would issue >a re-release for a 'dying' group. Heck, there are whole labels such as Sundazzled, Repertorie, and Musea that are devoted to *dead* groups. An example is Trilogy whose original album sold barely three thousand copies in their native Germany back in the seventies. Why on earth is Musea releasing that album on CD? Well, maybe because it's really good music? (-8 (In the prog rock Genesis -Yes vein.) Closer in style to (early) Kraftwerk would be Fifty Foot Hose whose original album went straight into the cut-out bins, yet it's been re-released on CD. Makes no sense to me, but boy, am I grateful. (-8 John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 13 Sep 95 15:10:27 CdT Subject: Sorry all: Really-From: andrewm This is a batch mail, and since I have lost how to unsubscribe to the lists, I'm sorry to have to bug everyone with this... I'm being shifted around at work, which means I'm losing my account, so if someone would be so kind as to unsubscribe me from the following lists, I'd be greatly appreciative. raindogs kraftwerk snuffit-l cloud-zero thanks a lot, and sorry for the hassle. st. andrew, ksc andrewm@ipd.ipdlink.anl.gov ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #357 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #358 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Friday, 15 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 358 Date: 14 Sep 1995 18:54:29 GMT ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 04:27:05 -0400 Subject: Really-From: kraftwerk ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: 14 Sep 1995 18:54:29 GMT Subject: Date: 14 Sep 1995 18:54:29 GMT Really-From: Stefan_Tegstrom@online.idg.se (Stefan Tegstrom) subscribe stefan_tegstrom@online.idg.se ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #358 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #359 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Saturday, 16 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 359 RE: Can anyon help? Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #357 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 95 09:53:00 UTC Subject: RE: Can anyon help? Really-From: Mahamud Ahmad Can anyone please give me advise/help in getting a copy of either of the following? preferably on 12'' and in the UK.. Mail me direct if you can. thanks mahamud MAhmad@sni.co.uk > > 1991 Nov Radioactivitaet CD Single > > 4:12 Radioactivity, Francois Kevorkian 7" Remix > 7:27 Radioactivity, Francois Kevorkian 12" Remix > 7:23 Radioactivity, William Orbit 12" Remix > > CD5 UK 1991 EMI CDEM 201 (2045522) > > 1991 Nov Radioaktivitat CD Single > > 4:12 Radioactivitaet, Francois Kevorkian 7" Remix > 7:27 Radioactivitaet, Francois Kevorkian 12" Remix > 7:23 Radioactivitaet, William Orbit 12" Remix > > 7" WG 1991 EMI 1c 560-2 04516 7 > 12" WG 1991 EMI 1c 060-2 04516 6 > CD5 WG 1991 EMI 1c 560-2 04516 2 ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 12:02:35 -0500 Subject: Really-From: Marcelo Carvajal I'd like to say that there is a lot of people listening to Kraftwerk. I live in Chile (very far from Germany), and I know some people intersted in Kraftwerk's stuff. But here is really hard to find anything about them. A few months ago I found the Transeurope Express vinyl (the Chilean Edition), that isn't easy because is was an original edition and (this is pretty funny), the titles were translated. If there is somebody interested in getting the picture of that LP, this is my E-mail address: mcarvaj@renoir.die.udec.cl M.A.X. ---- Radioactivty is in the air for you and me ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 16:18:20 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: kraftwerk-digest V2 #357 Really-From: Ya Wanna PLAY unsubscribe end ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #359 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #360 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Sunday, 17 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 360 FS: Elektric Music - Crosstalk CD5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 02:12:09 +0200 Subject: FS: Elektric Music - Crosstalk CD5 Really-From: mh@euronet.nl (Marco_Hendrikse) Hello everyone, I have for sale one copy (still sealed) of the limited CD5 'Crosstalk' by Elektric Music. On the cover it says 'Ltd. Edition of 5000' and on the back is printed 'No. 0527 of 5000. I haven't posted this on alt.music.synthpop yet, I wanted to give you all a chance to purchase it first. :) I've decided to start the bidding at $20. Highest offer on Saturday 23th of September gets it. Greetings, - - Marco - ****** ****** **** + ---- --- --> SYNTHPOP FOREVER! <-- --- ---- + ******* ******* **** | AnythingBox#Kraftwerk#Alphaville#Propaganda | **** *** ************ | SevenRedSeven#TheHumanLeague#InSoc#CetuJavu | **** * ************ | Erasure#PetShopBoys#Electronic#Cause&Effect | **** **** **** | DeadOrAlive#Camouflage#Ultravox#RedFlag#OMD | **** **** **** + ---- --- -- - [mh@euronet.nl] - -- --- ---- + ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #360 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #361 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Thursday, 21 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 361 Radioactivity Date: 20 Sep 1995 11:15:39 GMT Re: No Subject the early bootlegs X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R5). Re: Re: Radioactivity Tour de France Re: Re: Radioactivity ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: 20 Sep 1995 10:00:48 GMT Subject: Radioactivity Really-From: Stefan_Tegstrom@online.idg.se (Stefan Tegstrom) Has anyone noticed that in the beginning of "Radioactivity" has morse signals? Do anyone know what the message is? - --- OffRoad 1.9e unregistered ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: 20 Sep 1995 11:15:39 GMT Subject: Date: 20 Sep 1995 11:15:39 GMT Really-From: Stefan_Tegstrom@online.idg.se (Stefan Tegstrom) Just saw "Kraftwerk 1", "Kraftwerk2" and "Ralf Und Florian" in an mail order list. I'd guess those are boots, anyone know anything about the soundquality? - --- OffRoad 1.9e unregistered ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 08:03:23 -0400 Subject: Re: No Subject Really-From: Curryous@aol.com They are German bootlegs taken from fairly clean copies of LPs. They sound like good LPs. If they are the ones I have they have extra tracks. Russ Curry "Wir sind Schauzimmerpuppen" ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 11:07:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: the early bootlegs Really-From: MCINTYRE@pa.msu.edu >Really-From: Stefan_Tegstrom@online.idg.se (Stefan Tegstrom) >Just saw "Kraftwerk 1", "Kraftwerk2" and "Ralf Und Florian" in an mail >order list. I'd guess those are boots, anyone know anything about the >soundquality? There are two different versions, both mastered from vinyl. The version with a bonus cut on each CD have audible surface noise, especially on _Kraftwerk 2_. The version without the bonus cut sounds great. The bonus cuts are taken from a 1975 radio show of a Cologne concert that is available as a bootleg as well. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: 20 Sep 95 13:42:52 EST Subject: X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail v2.3 (R5). Really-From: "Wise, Dale" Greetings- I am looking for a comprehensive list of Kraftwerk's setup. All the gear they utilate, past and present, and any other interesting information on their writing, recording, programming or engineering techniques. I've only been recently exposed to Kraftwerk, but I find many aspects of their music very interesting and very cool. Its suprisingly intelligent based on its relative simplicity, musically. I'm a button pushing electronic musician who endlessly pursues different aspects of the wonderful world of MIDI and sampling. I'm always interested in tossing around ideas with other musicians. >>>>>Dale.T.Wise.II<<<<< ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: 20 Sep 1995 20:02:17 GMT Subject: Re: Really-From: martin.rundqvist@sting.dextel.se (Martin Rundqvist) As said.. We'll met.. Det ar bra ljudkvalitet.. . Godtagbart.. Man kanner nastan vinylkansla i vibrationerna. Har sjalv bara 1:an iofs, men den ar ok. Visserligen ar det lite brus men det ska det vara. Kraftwerk later i sig inte som de brukar, men det later bra!!! //Martin ...Hon ar modellen och hon ser bra ut. o o " ********** Sent via the StingNet (Sweden) UUCP Gateway ************* ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: 20 Sep 1995 19:56:06 GMT Subject: Re: Radioactivity Really-From: martin.rundqvist@sting.dextel.se (Martin Rundqvist) The code is decoded: R A D I O A C T I V I T Y //Martin ...Radioaktivitet, Madam Curie upptackte det.. ********** Sent via the StingNet (Sweden) UUCP Gateway ************* ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 95 16:56:22 EDT Subject: Tour de France Really-From: peballen@eng.appl.ge.com (pat ballenger) Does anyone know where I can get a copy of "Tour de France" (the 12")? Has it recently been reissued on CD? Pat B. ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: 20 Sep 1995 22:19:24 GMT Subject: Re: Re: Radioactivity Really-From: Stefan_Tegstrom@online.idg.se (Stefan Tegstrom) kraftwerk mailing list,kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu,Internet wrote at 20.56 on 95-09-20 to Stefan Tegstrom about "Re: Radioactivity": - ----------------------------- >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Really-From: martin.rundqvist@sting.dextel.se (Martin Rundqvist) > > >The code is decoded: >R A D I O A C T I V I T Y > >//Martin >...Radioaktivitet, Madam Curie upptackte det.. > To obvious Radioaktivitet Eisenhover anvande det... - --- OffRoad 1.9e unregistered ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #361 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #362 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Friday, 22 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 362 Re: Tour de France Re: Tour de France ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: 21 Sep 1995 09:58:14 GMT Subject: Re: Tour de France Really-From: Stefan_Tegstrom@online.idg.se (Stefan Tegstrom) kraftwerk mailing list,kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu,Internet wrote at 23.56 on 95-09-20 to Stefan Tegstrom about "Tour de France". I've got it! I've got it! I've got it! I've never seen an reissue on CD though - --- OffRoad 1.9e unregistered ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 15:22:15 -0700 Subject: Re: Tour de France Really-From: sellers@mail.sdsu.edu (darrell sellers) >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Really-From: Stefan_Tegstrom@online.idg.se (Stefan Tegstrom) > > >kraftwerk mailing list,kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu,Internet wrote at 23.56 on >95-09-20 >to Stefan Tegstrom about "Tour de France". > >I've got it! I've got it! I've got it! I've never seen an reissue on CD >though > >--- OffRoad 1.9e unregistered > > >what else is on the CD...??? darrell sellers USA, SAn Diego <<< sellers@mail.sdsu.edu>>> ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #362 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #363 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Saturday, 23 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 363 Re: Tour de France Re: Tour de France A few questions Re: A few questions Q fuels new album hysteria ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 13:29:19 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Re: Tour de France Really-From: dcakl006@nlmodnet1.mod.nl (ir D. Barth) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: peballen@eng.appl.ge.com (pat ballenger) > > > Does anyone know where I can get a copy of "Tour de France" (the 12")? > Has it recently been reissued on CD? Pat B. > Hello Pat, >From me, I recently sent a list of recirds to be sold by me. If you have any questions, please mail me. Erik Barth Here comes the list: ======================================================================== Hello Kraftwerkians, This is my list of Kraftwerk-record I'm going to sell. To give everyone an opportunity to sign in on these records, I will have a waiting period for about two weeks. On september 8, I going to collect all demands and if there are records in which more people are interested, I will raffle these records as honest as possible, but in a way that people have the same odds of getting records. After allocation I will let you know which records I have reserved for you. I will also let you know how much money has to be transferred to me (records and postage). Count one single lp to maximum 200 grams and add some packaging weight to it. By surface (or ship) mail to any place in the world it will cost DFL3,35 for maximum 250 grams, DFL5,75 maximum 500 grams, DFL9,- maximum 1 kg and DFL12,- maximum 2 kg. By air mail it will cost you in Europe about 50% more and to the rest of the world up to DFL40,- for maximum 2 kg. Be aware that these prices are just an indication. After receiving your money I will send the records, packaged with carton and packaging paper, to you. After my delivery of the record to the post office, risk is yours. If you want a certain record very much but you think the price is to high, name your price and if no one else wants it and I think the price is reasonable, you might get it. If you want a certain record very very much, mention an higher price and your odds will rise. For easiness, I count $1 (U.S. Dollar) as DFL1,50 (Dutch Guilders) Erik Barth barth@dcakl.army.mod.nl ============================================================================ Kraftwerk records. All singular albums or CD's unless stated else (2lp/2CD). ============================================================================ Albums (LP's) ============= Kraftwerk; GE; 1970; 6305 058; Philips; Sample Record (promo, good); $70/DFL105 Kraftwerk 2; GE; 1971; 6305 117; Philips; Cover slightly damaged; $30/DFL45 Kraftwerk 2; GE; 1971; 6305 117; Philips; Without cover; $20/DFL30 Kvln 12.6.1971 Live; ?; 6305051; Ruckzuck Records; Live, Pict.Disc, lim.ed.83of250; $40/DFL60 Ralf and Florian; NL; 1973; 6435 017; Philips; Pop Legends; $35/DFL53 Autobahn; GE; 1974; 6305 231; Philips, Phonogram; good; $15/DFL23 Autobahn; NZ; 1974; EMC 203; EMI; (original cover, back in B/W, good); $15/DFL23 Autobahn; US; 1974; VEL 2003; Phonogram, Vertigo; good; $15/DFL23 Autobahn; GE; 1974; 1C 064 24 0070 1; EMI; good; $15/DFL23 Autobahn; IT; 1974; 9279 459; Philips, Phonogram; Successo, Rock Giants 5, good; $20/DFL30 Doppelalbum 2lp; GE; 1974; 9299 653; Philips, Phonogram; good; $60/DFL90 Excerpts from Kraftwerk 2 & Autobahn; IT; 1974; 9286 876; Phonogram, Fontana; Small writings on cover; $40/DFL60 Ralf & Florian; US; 1975; VEL 2006; Phonogram, Vertigo; -; $25/DFL37 Exceller 8; FR; 1975; 6360 629; Phonogram, Vertigo; good; $40/DFL60 Exceller 8; UK; 1975; 6360 629; Phonogram, Vertigo; good; $30/DFL45 Kometenmelodie (Ruckzuck/Komet.mel/Autob.); BE; 1975; 197-503-22; Dreamradio Records; Live, Cologne, WDR 22mar1975, fair; $30/DFL45 Radio-activity; IT; 1976; 3C 064-82087; Capitol; Cover slightly damaged; $15/DFL23 Radio-activity; NL; 1976; 1A 038 1575021; EMI, Capitol, Fame; 1985; $15/DFL23 Trans Europa Express; GE; 1977; 1C 064-82 306; EMI, Electrola; Including poster, good; $35/DFL53 Trans Europe Express; NL; 1977; 5C 062-82306; EMI, Capitol; -; $15/DFL23 Trans Europe Express; NL; 1977; 1A 038 15 7587 1; EMI, Capitol, Fame; 1985, good; $15/DFL23 Trans Europe Express; Can; 1977; SN 16301; EMI, Capitol; good; $20/DFL30 Trans Europe Express; IT; 1977; 3C 064-85110; EMI, Capitol; Cover slightly damaged; $20/DFL30 Trans Europe Express; FR; 1977; 181101 PM 211; EMI, Capitol, Fame; 1985, Fr. Les Mannequins; $20/DFL30 Die Mensch Maschine; GE; 1978; 1C 058-32843; EMI, Electrola; good; $20/DFL30 The Man Machine; NL; 1978; 5C 062-85444; EMI, Capitol; -; $15/DFL23 The Man Machine; NL; 1978; 1A 038 15 7597 1; EMI, Capitol, Fame; good; $15/DFL23 The Man Machine; SP; 1978; 056-1854441; EMI, Fama; good; $20/DFL30 The Man Machine; JP; 1978; ECS-81083; Toshiba, EMI, Cap.; very good; $40/DFL60 Computerwelt; GE; 1981; 1C 064-46 311; EMI, Electrola; good; $15/DFL23 Computerworld; NL; 1981; 1A 062 64370; EMI; good; $15/DFL23 Computerworld; UK; 1981; 0C 062 64 370; EMI; -; $15/DFL23 Kraftwerk Machine; UK; ?; 607003; Contains Live recordings from Utrecht (1981, good) and France (pre 1976?); $35/DFL53 Central Passage 2lp; BE; 1981; KW 198-105-19; Dreamradio Records; Live Firenze (IT), 19may1981, good; $50/DFL75 R TBON CNYTA R TBON PABOTHNK 2lp; ?; ?; ?; ?; Live 1981 concert, yellow sleeve; $60/DFL90 Electric Cafe (Deutsche Version); GE; 1986; 1C 064 24 0654 1; EMI; good; $20/DFL30 Electric Cafe (English Version); GE; 1986; 1C 064 24 0644 1; EMI; good; $20/DFL30 Security Device 2lp; CH; 1987; sound 435 K; Tring Trang Records; Live, good; $50/DFL75 12" === Showroom Dummies/ Europe Endless; UK; 1977; 12 CLX 104; EMI, Capitol; Limited Edition, good; $40/DFL60 Das Model/The Model; GE; 1978; 1C K052-78078 Z; EMI, Electrola; good; $20/DFL30 Neon Lights/Trans-Europe Express,The Model; UK; 1978; 12 CL 15998; Capitol; Luminous Vinyl; $30/DFL45 Computerwelt/Nummern/Computerwelt 2; GE; 1981; 1C K062-46 379; EMI, Electrola; -; $25/DFL37 Computer Love/The Model; NL; 1981; 1A K052Z-64509; EMI; fair; $20/DFL30 Tour de France (Remix F.K./Version, s.); UK; 1983; 12EMI 5413; EMI; good; $30/DFL45 Tour de France (6'30/3'00, 2eitape 2'40); FR; 1983; 1545056; EMI-Pathi Marconi; -; $30/DFL45 Tour de France (GE/FR); GE; 1983; 1C K 052 1652046; EMI, Electrola; Cover slightly damaged, good; $30/DFL45 Musique Non Stop; UK; 1986; 12 EMI 5588; EMI; good; $20/DFL30 The Telephone Call (remix)/ House Phone, Der Telefon Anruf; EEC(NL); 1986; 1A K060-20 1638 6; EMI; good; $20/DFL30 7" == Autobahn/Morgenspaziergang; US; 1974; VE 203 2-51832/2-51769; Phonogram, Vertigo; Promo, white cover; $30/DFL45 Autobahn/Morgenspaziergang; GE; 1974; 6003 428; Philips, Phonogram; Cover slightly damaged; $20/DFL30 Kometen Melodie 2/Mitternacht; GE; 1974; 6003 466; Philips, Phonogram; -; $20/DFL30 Kometen Melodie 2/Mitternacht; GE; 1974; 6003 466; Philips, Phonogram; Black cover; $15/DFL23 Radio Activity/Antenna; NL; 1975; 5C 006-82 119; EMI, Capitol; TEE-picture on cover; $15/DFL23 Radio Activity/Antenna; BE; 1976; 4C 010-82 119; EMI, Capitol; -; $15/DFL23 Radioaktivitdt/Antenne; GE; 1976; 1C 006-82 119; Kling Klang; Black cover; $15/DFL23 Trans Europa Express/Franz Schubert; GE; 1977; 1C 006-85 077; EMI, Electrola; good; $20/DFL30 The Model/The Man Machine; NL; 1978; 5C 006-85673; EMI, Capitol; good; $20/DFL30 Die Roboter/Spacelab; GE; 1978; 1C 006-32 941; EMI, Electrola; good; $20/DFL30 The Robots/Spacelab; UK; 1978; CL 15981; Capitol; Foldout sleeve, good; $25/DFL37 Showroom Dummies/The Robots; JP; 1977/'78; ECR-20658; Toshiba-EMI, Cap.; Leaflet with text of side A, good; $25/DFL37 Showroom Dummies/The Robots; JP; 1977/'78; ECR-20658; Toshiba-EMI, Cap.; Without Leaflet; $15/DFL23 Das Model/The Model; GE; 1978; 1C 006-78078; EMI, Electrola; black cover; $15/DFL23 Neon Lights/Trans-Europe Express,The Model; UK; 1978; CL 15998; Capitol; good (side a)/fair (side b); $20/DFL30 Taschenrechner/Dentaku; GE; 1981; 1C 006-46 365; EMI, Electrola; good; $20/DFL30 Pocket Calculator/Dentaku; UK; 1981; EMI 5175; EMI; good; $15/DFL23 Pocket Calculator/Dentaku; SP; 1981; 10C 006-064365; EMI; good; $20/DFL30 Pocket Calculator/Dentaku; US; 1981; WBS 49723; Warner Bros.; Yellow Vinyl/Promotion, very good; $30/DFL45 Mini Calculateur (French)/Dentaku; NL; 1981; 1A 006-64369; EMI; small writing on jacket, good; $20/DFL30 The Model/Computer Love; NL; 1981; 1A 006-64509; EMI; -; $15/DFL23 Musique Non Stop; EEC; 1986; 1C 006 20 1508 7; EMI; good; $20/DFL30 The Telephone Call/ Der Telefon Anruf; EEC(NL); 1986; 1A 006-20 1637 7; EMI; good; $20/DFL30 Radioactivity(F.K./W.O mix); EEC; 1991; 20 4552 7; EMI; good; $20/DFL30 The Robots/Robotronik; UK; 1991; EM 192; EMI; good; $20/DFL30 CD's ==== Nippon Numbers; EEC; 1992; -; Smurf; Live, Budokan (Tokyo, JP), 7sep1981; $25/DFL37 N1 to Z|rich; Switz.; 1993?; 1-9300; Cham; Live, Zurich, 1991; $30/DFL45 F.K. = Francois Kevorkian W.O. = William Orbit s. = single edit very good = (almost) no ticks/scratches good = a very few ticks/scratches fair = some audible ticks ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 14:23:31 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Re: Tour de France Really-From: dcakl006@nlmodnet1.mod.nl (ir D. Barth) Growing more and more red.... The last mail should not have gone to the list. Although it is not secret, it is a lot of bytes. Sorry, I am very sorry. Erik Barth ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 95 8:52:38 CDT Subject: A few questions Really-From: norz@trojan.convex.com (Gregory Norz) Hello all! Last night I picked up a 3 CD compilation (The Capitol Years), and I didn't see it in the discog. I was just wondering what kind of a release this was (limited or what?). Also, are there any Kraftwerkians in the Dallas, TX area? I've been looking around for some old KW on vinyl; have had some success, but not much. greg ************************************************************************* Gregory R. Norz 3000 Waterview Parkway Convex Computer Corporation Richardson, TX 75083 Configuration Analyst (214) 497-4199 Email : norz@convex.com "Just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning; it shows the world that you've got substance and depth..." - Pet Shop Boys ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 12:28:36 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: A few questions Really-From: William V Muse I need help unsubscribing from the kraftwerk digest. I have followed the guidelines perfectly and still am receiving mail every day. Can somebody help me to unsubscribe? ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 14:41:57 -0400 Subject: Q fuels new album hysteria Really-From: Curryous@aol.com Here is the item from the "This Month's Stories" section of the October issue of Q magazine: "Oxygen-efficient humanoid Ralf Hutter spent the summer hols on his bike following the Tour De France from start to finish. The Kraftewerkian spirit of man and machine in perfect harmony may have been evoked on the road but they haven't evoked much in the studio in recent years. This may be changing as the band have informed their record company, EMI, that they should prime their circuits for a new Kraftwerk album sometime in '96" Let is be written! Russ Curry ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #363 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #364 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Monday, 25 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 364 I dont want it !!! kraftwerk-digest I'm confused... Re: I'm confused... Re: I'm confused... Re: I HATE KRAFTWERK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! unsubscribe Re: I'm confused... RE: I'm confused... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 16:30:32 +0100 Subject: I dont want it !!! kraftwerk-digest Really-From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (by way of Lucas Bonsel ) kraftwerk-digest Saturday, 23 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 363 Re: Tour de France Re: Tour de France A few questions Re: A few questions Q fuels new album hysteria - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 13:29:19 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Re: Tour de France - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: dcakl006@nlmodnet1.mod.nl (ir D. Barth) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: peballen@eng.appl.ge.com (pat ballenger) > > > Does anyone know where I can get a copy of "Tour de France" (the 12")? > Has it recently been reissued on CD? Pat B. > Hello Pat, >From me, I recently sent a list of recirds to be sold by me. If you have any questions, please mail me. Erik Barth Here comes the list: ======================================================================== Hello Kraftwerkians, This is my list of Kraftwerk-record I'm going to sell. To give everyone an opportunity to sign in on these records, I will have a waiting period for about two weeks. On september 8, I going to collect all demands and if there are records in which more people are interested, I will raffle these records as honest as possible, but in a way that people have the same odds of getting records. After allocation I will let you know which records I have reserved for you. I will also let you know how much money has to be transferred to me (records and postage). Count one single lp to maximum 200 grams and add some packaging weight to it. By surface (or ship) mail to any place in the world it will cost DFL3,35 for maximum 250 grams, DFL5,75 maximum 500 grams, DFL9,- maximum 1 kg and DFL12,- maximum 2 kg. By air mail it will cost you in Europe about 50% more and to the rest of the world up to DFL40,- for maximum 2 kg. Be aware that these prices are just an indication. After receiving your money I will send the records, packaged with carton and packaging paper, to you. After my delivery of the record to the post office, risk is yours. If you want a certain record very much but you think the price is to high, name your price and if no one else wants it and I think the price is reasonable, you might get it. If you want a certain record very very much, mention an higher price and your odds will rise. For easiness, I count $1 (U.S. Dollar) as DFL1,50 (Dutch Guilders) Erik Barth barth@dcakl.army.mod.nl ============================================================================ Kraftwerk records. All singular albums or CD's unless stated else (2lp/2CD). ============================================================================ Albums (LP's) ============= Kraftwerk; GE; 1970; 6305 058; Philips; Sample Record (promo, good); $70/DFL105 Kraftwerk 2; GE; 1971; 6305 117; Philips; Cover slightly damaged; $30/DFL45 Kraftwerk 2; GE; 1971; 6305 117; Philips; Without cover; $20/DFL30 Kvln 12.6.1971 Live; ?; 6305051; Ruckzuck Records; Live, Pict.Disc, lim.ed.83of250; $40/DFL60 Ralf and Florian; NL; 1973; 6435 017; Philips; Pop Legends; $35/DFL53 Autobahn; GE; 1974; 6305 231; Philips, Phonogram; good; $15/DFL23 Autobahn; NZ; 1974; EMC 203; EMI; (original cover, back in B/W, good); $15/DFL23 Autobahn; US; 1974; VEL 2003; Phonogram, Vertigo; good; $15/DFL23 Autobahn; GE; 1974; 1C 064 24 0070 1; EMI; good; $15/DFL23 Autobahn; IT; 1974; 9279 459; Philips, Phonogram; Successo, Rock Giants 5, good; $20/DFL30 Doppelalbum 2lp; GE; 1974; 9299 653; Philips, Phonogram; good; $60/DFL90 Excerpts from Kraftwerk 2 & Autobahn; IT; 1974; 9286 876; Phonogram, Fontana; Small writings on cover; $40/DFL60 Ralf & Florian; US; 1975; VEL 2006; Phonogram, Vertigo; -; $25/DFL37 Exceller 8; FR; 1975; 6360 629; Phonogram, Vertigo; good; $40/DFL60 Exceller 8; UK; 1975; 6360 629; Phonogram, Vertigo; good; $30/DFL45 Kometenmelodie (Ruckzuck/Komet.mel/Autob.); BE; 1975; 197-503-22; Dreamradio Records; Live, Cologne, WDR 22mar1975, fair; $30/DFL45 Radio-activity; IT; 1976; 3C 064-82087; Capitol; Cover slightly damaged; $15/DFL23 Radio-activity; NL; 1976; 1A 038 1575021; EMI, Capitol, Fame; 1985; $15/DFL23 Trans Europa Express; GE; 1977; 1C 064-82 306; EMI, Electrola; Including poster, good; $35/DFL53 Trans Europe Express; NL; 1977; 5C 062-82306; EMI, Capitol; -; $15/DFL23 Trans Europe Express; NL; 1977; 1A 038 15 7587 1; EMI, Capitol, Fame; 1985, good; $15/DFL23 Trans Europe Express; Can; 1977; SN 16301; EMI, Capitol; good; $20/DFL30 Trans Europe Express; IT; 1977; 3C 064-85110; EMI, Capitol; Cover slightly damaged; $20/DFL30 Trans Europe Express; FR; 1977; 181101 PM 211; EMI, Capitol, Fame; 1985, Fr. Les Mannequins; $20/DFL30 Die Mensch Maschine; GE; 1978; 1C 058-32843; EMI, Electrola; good; $20/DFL30 The Man Machine; NL; 1978; 5C 062-85444; EMI, Capitol; -; $15/DFL23 The Man Machine; NL; 1978; 1A 038 15 7597 1; EMI, Capitol, Fame; good; $15/DFL23 The Man Machine; SP; 1978; 056-1854441; EMI, Fama; good; $20/DFL30 The Man Machine; JP; 1978; ECS-81083; Toshiba, EMI, Cap.; very good; $40/DFL60 Computerwelt; GE; 1981; 1C 064-46 311; EMI, Electrola; good; $15/DFL23 Computerworld; NL; 1981; 1A 062 64370; EMI; good; $15/DFL23 Computerworld; UK; 1981; 0C 062 64 370; EMI; -; $15/DFL23 Kraftwerk Machine; UK; ?; 607003; Contains Live recordings from Utrecht (1981, good) and France (pre 1976?); $35/DFL53 Central Passage 2lp; BE; 1981; KW 198-105-19; Dreamradio Records; Live Firenze (IT), 19may1981, good; $50/DFL75 R TBON CNYTA R TBON PABOTHNK 2lp; ?; ?; ?; ?; Live 1981 concert, yellow sleeve; $60/DFL90 Electric Cafe (Deutsche Version); GE; 1986; 1C 064 24 0654 1; EMI; good; $20/DFL30 Electric Cafe (English Version); GE; 1986; 1C 064 24 0644 1; EMI; good; $20/DFL30 Security Device 2lp; CH; 1987; sound 435 K; Tring Trang Records; Live, good; $50/DFL75 12" === Showroom Dummies/ Europe Endless; UK; 1977; 12 CLX 104; EMI, Capitol; Limited Edition, good; $40/DFL60 Das Model/The Model; GE; 1978; 1C K052-78078 Z; EMI, Electrola; good; $20/DFL30 Neon Lights/Trans-Europe Express,The Model; UK; 1978; 12 CL 15998; Capitol; Luminous Vinyl; $30/DFL45 Computerwelt/Nummern/Computerwelt 2; GE; 1981; 1C K062-46 379; EMI, Electrola; -; $25/DFL37 Computer Love/The Model; NL; 1981; 1A K052Z-64509; EMI; fair; $20/DFL30 Tour de France (Remix F.K./Version, s.); UK; 1983; 12EMI 5413; EMI; good; $30/DFL45 Tour de France (6'30/3'00, 2eitape 2'40); FR; 1983; 1545056; EMI-Pathi Marconi; -; $30/DFL45 Tour de France (GE/FR); GE; 1983; 1C K 052 1652046; EMI, Electrola; Cover slightly damaged, good; $30/DFL45 Musique Non Stop; UK; 1986; 12 EMI 5588; EMI; good; $20/DFL30 The Telephone Call (remix)/ House Phone, Der Telefon Anruf; EEC(NL); 1986; 1A K060-20 1638 6; EMI; good; $20/DFL30 7" == Autobahn/Morgenspaziergang; US; 1974; VE 203 2-51832/2-51769; Phonogram, Vertigo; Promo, white cover; $30/DFL45 Autobahn/Morgenspaziergang; GE; 1974; 6003 428; Philips, Phonogram; Cover slightly damaged; $20/DFL30 Kometen Melodie 2/Mitternacht; GE; 1974; 6003 466; Philips, Phonogram; -; $20/DFL30 Kometen Melodie 2/Mitternacht; GE; 1974; 6003 466; Philips, Phonogram; Black cover; $15/DFL23 Radio Activity/Antenna; NL; 1975; 5C 006-82 119; EMI, Capitol; TEE-picture on cover; $15/DFL23 Radio Activity/Antenna; BE; 1976; 4C 010-82 119; EMI, Capitol; -; $15/DFL23 Radioaktivitdt/Antenne; GE; 1976; 1C 006-82 119; Kling Klang; Black cover; $15/DFL23 Trans Europa Express/Franz Schubert; GE; 1977; 1C 006-85 077; EMI, Electrola; good; $20/DFL30 The Model/The Man Machine; NL; 1978; 5C 006-85673; EMI, Capitol; good; $20/DFL30 Die Roboter/Spacelab; GE; 1978; 1C 006-32 941; EMI, Electrola; good; $20/DFL30 The Robots/Spacelab; UK; 1978; CL 15981; Capitol; Foldout sleeve, good; $25/DFL37 Showroom Dummies/The Robots; JP; 1977/'78; ECR-20658; Toshiba-EMI, Cap.; Leaflet with text of side A, good; $25/DFL37 Showroom Dummies/The Robots; JP; 1977/'78; ECR-20658; Toshiba-EMI, Cap.; Without Leaflet; $15/DFL23 Das Model/The Model; GE; 1978; 1C 006-78078; EMI, Electrola; black cover; $15/DFL23 Neon Lights/Trans-Europe Express,The Model; UK; 1978; CL 15998; Capitol; good (side a)/fair (side b); $20/DFL30 Taschenrechner/Dentaku; GE; 1981; 1C 006-46 365; EMI, Electrola; good; $20/DFL30 Pocket Calculator/Dentaku; UK; 1981; EMI 5175; EMI; good; $15/DFL23 Pocket Calculator/Dentaku; SP; 1981; 10C 006-064365; EMI; good; $20/DFL30 Pocket Calculator/Dentaku; US; 1981; WBS 49723; Warner Bros.; Yellow Vinyl/Promotion, very good; $30/DFL45 Mini Calculateur (French)/Dentaku; NL; 1981; 1A 006-64369; EMI; small writing on jacket, good; $20/DFL30 The Model/Computer Love; NL; 1981; 1A 006-64509; EMI; -; $15/DFL23 Musique Non Stop; EEC; 1986; 1C 006 20 1508 7; EMI; good; $20/DFL30 The Telephone Call/ Der Telefon Anruf; EEC(NL); 1986; 1A 006-20 1637 7; EMI; good; $20/DFL30 Radioactivity(F.K./W.O mix); EEC; 1991; 20 4552 7; EMI; good; $20/DFL30 The Robots/Robotronik; UK; 1991; EM 192; EMI; good; $20/DFL30 CD's ==== Nippon Numbers; EEC; 1992; -; Smurf; Live, Budokan (Tokyo, JP), 7sep1981; $25/DFL37 N1 to Z|rich; Switz.; 1993?; 1-9300; Cham; Live, Zurich, 1991; $30/DFL45 F.K. = Francois Kevorkian W.O. = William Orbit s. = single edit very good = (almost) no ticks/scratches good = a very few ticks/scratches fair = some audible ticks - ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 14:23:31 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: Re: Tour de France - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: dcakl006@nlmodnet1.mod.nl (ir D. Barth) Growing more and more red.... The last mail should not have gone to the list. Although it is not secret, it is a lot of bytes. Sorry, I am very sorry. Erik Barth - ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 95 8:52:38 CDT Subject: A few questions - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: norz@trojan.convex.com (Gregory Norz) Hello all! Last night I picked up a 3 CD compilation (The Capitol Years), and I didn't see it in the discog. I was just wondering what kind of a release this was (limited or what?). Also, are there any Kraftwerkians in the Dallas, TX area? I've been looking around for some old KW on vinyl; have had some success, but not much. greg ************************************************************************* Gregory R. Norz 3000 Waterview Parkway Convex Computer Corporation Richardson, TX 75083 Configuration Analyst (214) 497-4199 Email : norz@convex.com "Just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning; it shows the world that you've got substance and depth..." - Pet Shop Boys ************************************************************************* - ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 12:28:36 -0500 (CDT) Subject: Re: A few questions - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: William V Muse I need help unsubscribing from the kraftwerk digest. I have followed the guidelines perfectly and still am receiving mail every day. Can somebody help me to unsubscribe? - ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 1995 14:41:57 -0400 Subject: Q fuels new album hysteria - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Curryous@aol.com Here is the item from the "This Month's Stories" section of the October issue of Q magazine: "Oxygen-efficient humanoid Ralf Hutter spent the summer hols on his bike following the Tour De France from start to finish. The Kraftewerkian spirit of man and machine in perfect harmony may have been evoked on the road but they haven't evoked much in the studio in recent years. This may be changing as the band have informed their record company, EMI, that they should prime their circuits for a new Kraftwerk album sometime in '96" Let is be written! Russ Curry - ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #363 ******************************* ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 12:36:31 EST Subject: I'm confused... Really-From: mdb@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu Fellow Kraftwerkians, Probably the most popular topic out here for the last few years has been the possibility of a new Kraftwerk album. There've been lots of rumours without any factual basis to support them, but that's to be expected I suppose. I did read that KW planned another re-mix album of their old material to be released around November or so of 1995. Now I'm hearing that KW told their label to expect a brand new original album for release in '96. So, anyone got the REAL scoop? What releases, if any, has KW themselves confirmed? If they DID put out a new album in '96, at least that would keep their pattern alive since Computer World back in '81. BTW, if there is another re-mix album, think they'll put on 'Tour DeFrance' for us poor fools that desperately want it on CD? Robotically Yours, Scott "We are the robots..." P.S. - Anyone out there been able to translate any of the news stories in the track 'News' on Radio-Activity? ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 17:14:44 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: I'm confused... Really-From: MARTIN OLSSON AF NJURUNDA About a "The Mix part II" and other timely topics; It seems rather logical to me that they would be releasing a part II, since I believe Huetter was once quoted saying they were in the process of "re-mastering all old analogue tapes..." So, with that in mind, I see it most likely for a part II to appear. The question is - which songs? "The Mix" had what, 11, 12 songs on it? And those songs were mostly single releases except for a couple or so (someone correct me here). Now, what's left as far a singles goes? Let's see; 1. Kometenmelodie (part I or II ?) 2. Europa Endlos (single ?) 3. Schaufensterpuppen 4. Antenna 5. Das Modell 6. Neonlicht 7. Computer Welt (was it a single A-side ?) 8. Tour de France 9. Der Telefon Anruf Did I leave any out? Add it on if so. BTW could someone have the great curtesey to publish the official rundown of 7" releases in order. I've found some discorgraphies which gives me different info. Concerning a new album in 1996: Yyyyyyyeeeeessssss! But, has anyone heard anything more *OFFICIALLY* about whether or not it is a concept album. And if it is, does it have anything to do with the rumoured topic of "Global Village." And herein lies an interesting topic to me. Global Village. Havn't Kraftwerk already touched on this subject before? I believe they called it "Computer World" back in '81. Yes, yes... I know, so much has happened since then, and it will of course be with a new twist. But still, isn't this kinda old? Or is it just in time? Opinion, anyone? I think a concept album on "Bio Mechanics" (which someone suggested earlier) would be a lot more interesting. And it goes much more hand in hand with such Kraftwerkian terms as Man and Machine. And how interesting it could be for album titles!!! How about: Das Biomekanismus (German) La Biomecanique (French) Biomechanika (Russian) La Biomecanica (Spannish) Keibutsusuradiku (Japanese) - Actually means "bioengineering", but it'll have to be close enough. No offense to anyone of these nationalities, please correct me if I'm wrong, which I just may be :) Anyway, those are just my $0.02. that I wanted to share. Sincerely, |========================================| | Rendez-vous, auf dem Champs-Elyses | | Verlass Paris am Morgen mit dem T.E.E. | | | | Martin Olsson af Njurunda | | lmo1654@lynx.apsu.edu | |========================================| ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 20:17:44 -0400 Subject: Re: I'm confused... Really-From: Curryous@aol.com I like the idea of Bio-mechanics. I suspect that, given Hutter's many years of bicycle riding during this long hiatus, the new work (if it is a fact) will in some way lean more towards the human element of the man-machine equation. One indication of this may have been KWs participation in the Sellafield Concert in '92 which helped clarify the human side of the track "Radioactivity". Of course, this was addressed as well on the version done for the Mix. ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 20:36:12 -0400 Subject: Re: I HATE KRAFTWERK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really-From: Spotnik@aol.com You hate Kraftwerk? How sad. (One wonders what this person does like. Then again, maybe not.) BTW, I've been off the list for a while--just changed jobs (now working as a Technology Writer for a NYC PR firm specializing in consumer electronics, TV, satellite broadcast, etc.) No longer "Zoid" of TAS! But things are settling in well, and I look forward to participating in more discussions. Now that I commute to Manhattan every day, I make it a point to listen to "Trans Eurpoe Express" on the ride! SOmetimes over and over again! Makes an awful ride almost tolerable. ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 08:04:31 GMT+800 Subject: unsubscribe Really-From: "Steve Berney" unsubscribe kraftwerk s.berney@cowan.edu.au Sorry about this message but I can't unsubscribe via majordomo. ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 21:17:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: I'm confused... Really-From: OMEGA > Really-From: MARTIN OLSSON AF NJURUNDA > > > I think a concept album on "Bio Mechanics" (which someone suggested earlier) > would be a lot more interesting. And it goes much more hand in hand with > such Kraftwerkian terms as Man and Machine. And how interesting it could be > for album titles!!! How about: > > Das Biomekanismus (German) > La Biomecanique (French) > Biomechanika (Russian) > La Biomecanica (Spannish) > Keibutsusuradiku (Japanese) - Actually means "bioengineering", but it'll > have to be close enough. Howzabout 'Bio-mecha'? In this case the language variations would be limited. Hm, too cyber-punkish? -- Omega - -------------- omega@io.org small sig, eh? - -------------- ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 22:15:46 +0800 (U) Subject: RE: I'm confused... Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." >Now, what's >left as far a singles goes? Let's see; >1. Kometenmelodie (part I or II ?) >2. Europa Endlos (single ?) >3. Schaufensterpuppen >4. Antenna >5. Das Modell >6. Neonlicht >7. Computer Welt (was it a single A-side ?) >8. Tour de France >9. Der Telefon Anruf >Did I leave any out? Add it on if so. How about the GrandDaddy of them all, NUMBERS! The Mix/Remix possibilities for that song are endless! Lon freeman@msmail.bms.com ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #364 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #365 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Tuesday, 26 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 365 kraftwerk-digest V2 #364 Lists and sales ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: 25 Sep 95 13:32:08 EDT Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #364 Really-From: Kenneth McKirdy <100260.542@compuserve.com> I thought the Mix Tour version of Numbers in '91 was a highlight of the gigs I saw in Birmingham and London. If this had been released commercially, given airplay, I think it could have been mega at the time!!! But Ralf & Florian ain't got a clue when it comes to marketing Kling Klang Produkt (eg a Tour De France CD reissue, the fans (like me) have been crying out for this for years. PS. Can anyone give details of the Tour De France version on the "DJ's Best " CD? Also what label is it on? The good importing sources in the UK can't track this disc at all. Was it a wind up? Apologies for going over old ground once more. Ken. ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 18:35:16 -0500 Subject: Lists and sales Really-From: datta (David Datta) If you want to sell or trade things, please only post the fact that you have a list of items to the mailing list. Send the entire listing only to those people who respond to you. - -- ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #365 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #366 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Wednesday, 27 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 366 News "lyrics" Capitol re-releases RE: Capitol re-releases ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 12:45:36 MET+100 Subject: News "lyrics" Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" > P.S. - Anyone out there been able to translate any of the news stories > in the track 'News' on Radio-Activity? These are just facts about power plants, not very interesting. It's not worth to translate them word by word, I think. Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 20:58:35 -0400 Subject: Capitol re-releases Really-From: Rajesh Prabhu Hi, Well, the Capitol re-issues are out, and I'm listening to The Man-Machine as I write this .... One strange thing about the re-release is that it does not say anywhere on the cover that it's re-mastered - not on the artwork, not even a sticker on the wrapper. In fact, nowhere does the date "1995" appear - the only date is the copyright date of 1978. The disc itself is a picture disc, with the silhouettes of the four members standing, on a red background. Again, the only date is 1978 ... I can't do an A-B comparison with the Cleopatra release since I didn't buy that one, but so far the sound on this seems good enough (and I'm only listening to it on my alpha workstation). So, would anyone who has both versions like to post some opinions on any (apparent) improvements ? (I have the original Capitol TEE and the Cleopatra "Radio-Activity", and will go for the re-issues only if they sound better -- got plenty of other Cd's on my wish-list!) - -- Rajesh ps. The release number for TMM is Capitol CDP 07777-46039-2 - is that different from the original release, or the same ? ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 1995 21:35:44 +0800 (U) Subject: RE: Capitol re-releases Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." > One strange thing about the re-release is that it does not say anywhere >on the cover that it's re-mastered - not on the artwork, not even a sticker >on the wrapper. I just got all three today. So far I've listened to Man Machine and Trans Europe Express in my car. They both sound real good but, alas, no designation of their being re-mastered. I'm almost positive that it would say so on the cover somewhere if it was, at least Capitol and EMI have been doing it that way. Any solid confirmation from anyone, anywhere, of ANY KW material being re-mastered at all in the world, or are we doomed to endless re-issues by various labels and their daughter companies. In many cases, not just Kraftwerk and Capitol, someone along the way (record companies, distributors, PR people, retailers) keeps announcing 'Re-Master' when in fact it is not. Lon freeman@msmail.bms.com ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #366 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #367 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Thursday, 28 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 367 Re: Capitol Re-releases Remastered Dutch "Autobahn" CD ? RE: "News" lyrics ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 12:26:10 MET+100 Subject: Re: Capitol Re-releases Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" > In many cases, not just > Kraftwerk and Capitol, someone along the way (record companies, distributors, > PR people, retailers) keeps announcing 'Re-Master' when in fact it is not. Indeed! The MUZE-Databank keeps saying that "The Man Machine" and "Trans Europe Express" have been remastered, though it wouldn't be the first wrong announcement from this source of information. Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 1995 18:27:49 MET+100 Subject: Remastered Dutch "Autobahn" CD ? Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" Speaking of remastered Kraftwerk CD's: In Utrecht I've once seen an "Autobahn" CD which was unusual because the booklet claimed that it was remixed/remastered and the names of the sound engineers and the studio were credited. I haven't bought this item and I've never seen it again. It was possibly a pirate CD, though it looked like an official EMI release. Does anyone know more about this CD? Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 95 23:39:09 PDT Subject: RE: "News" lyrics Really-From: mouat@tpone.telepac.pt (Paulo Mouat) > P.S. - Anyone out there been able to translate any of the news stories > in the track 'News' on Radio-Activity? You can find them on Kraftwerk Infobahr, the unofficial Kraftwerk homepage. They are as follows: Here is the West German Broadcasting Station [Westdeutscher Rundfunk] with the news. Fifty nuclear powerstations will be built in the West German Republic in the next ten years. Each one can supply a city of millions with power. As always, very descriptive--almost naive--lyrics... But that's the charm. ********************************************** Paulo Mouat, mouat@telepac.pt - Theoretical Physics Dept - FCUL Portugal - ********************************************** ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #367 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #368 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Friday, 29 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 368 Kraftwerk autographs RE: "News" lyrics Re: Kraftwerk autographs Rare CD items for sale Kraftwerk on Public Television ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 13:29:39 +0100 (MET) Subject: Kraftwerk autographs Really-From: Thomas Weckert Hi! Does anybody out there know the handwriting of the Kraftwerkers? I have a 12" single of "Musique Non Stop" with the autographs of Ralf, Karl, Wolfgang and Florian, but I'm quite uncertain whether these are original or not. The cover of this single is to my surprise different from the others, and on the cover is printed "For promotional use only. Any sale or broadcasting..." etc.. So, if anybody knows their handwriting, I'll scan the specific parts of the cover and mail it to you. Second, I have one of those "Computerwelt" remixes, and I like this mix much more than the original album version, but I was never able to get it in a english "Computerworld" version, and I'd like to know whether they released a version of this mix with english vocals. It's more fun to compute... Thomas Weckert tweckert@ernie.mi.uni-koeln.de http://ernie.mi.uni-koeln.de/~welcome_eng.html ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 95 09:29:56 EDT Subject: RE: "News" lyrics Really-From: peballen@eng.appl.ge.com (pat ballenger) > > > > P.S. - Anyone out there been able to translate any of the news stories > > in the track 'News' on Radio-Activity? > > You can find them on Kraftwerk Infobahr, the unofficial Kraftwerk homepage. > They are as follows: > Here is the West German Broadcasting Station [Westdeutscher Rundfunk] with the > news. Fifty nuclear powerstations will be built in the West German Republic in the > next ten years. Each one can supply a city of millions with power. > > As always, very descriptive--almost naive--lyrics... But that's the charm. > > ********************************************** > Paulo Mouat, mouat@telepac.pt > - Theoretical Physics Dept - FCUL Portugal - > ********************************************** > > What's the URL for Kraftwerk Infobahr? - Pat B. ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 16:31:10 +0100 Subject: Re: Kraftwerk autographs Really-From: d-sunjan@jmk.su.se (Jan Sundstrom) >Really-From: Thomas Weckert >Does anybody out there know the handwriting of the Kraftwerkers? I have >a 12" single of "Musique Non Stop" with the autographs of Ralf, Karl, >Wolfgang and Florian, but I'm quite uncertain whether these are original >or not. Well, i have a few records auto'd with Ralf and Karls names. These are original, I _know_, since they signed them personally in front of my eyes. So scan, and i'll give you an opinion. Although, records with all four auto's are _very_ rare, i don't think you can sell it withoutsome kind of guarantee sheet, saying where and when they signed it. That's because they hardly ever appeared in public since 1986, it's hard to think of any moment when all four of them were present at the same time to sign this item. I think i've seen _one_ item once with all autographs (Electric Cafe album) but the autenticity of it was uncertain. Well, at that time (must have been around 1989) the shop asked 100DM (=$70) for it. A good price if you're sure it's not a fake. But i wouldn't pay this kind of money without knowing the circumstances behind it. >The cover of this single is to my surprise different from the >others, and on the cover is printed "For promotional use only. Any sale >or broadcasting..." etc.. OK, this is the US promo, with gold promo stamp. I've got it too. It's in hardpaper sleeve, and the opening upwards, right? Not extremely rare, but OK. Ciao, Jan Sundstrom --- d-sunjan@jmk.su.se "So high, so low. So up, so down." Catherine Wheel - Collideoscopic ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 22:38:43 +0100 (MET) Subject: Rare CD items for sale Really-From: bombuzal Hello Kraftwerk fans, I am offering the next Kraftwerk items for sale : - - Kraftwerk 1 + Kraftwerk 2 + Ralf @ Florian 3CD $50 - - Man-Machine recreated CD $23 - - Nippon Numbers CD $23 - - Toccata Electronica CD $23 - - Computers in love 2CD $46 - - Hyperr cerebral machine CD $20 - - rimini rimini 2CD $50 - - Enregistre live a l'olympia CD $23 - - non stop 2CD $50 - - Heute Abend 2CD $40 - - Book Man-Machine and Music BOOK $20 - - Video Stop Sellafield VHS $15 Postage is not included. Please ask a detailed Kraftwerk saleslist. Contact me on bombuzal@xs4all.nl ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 1995 23:11:51 -0400 Subject: Kraftwerk on Public Television Really-From: Curryous@aol.com Tonight on (Iowa) Public Television KW was mentioned during episode 10 "The Perfect Beat" of the documentary "Rock and Roll". They were primarily mentioned as an influence on Afrika Bambaata and "Planet Rock". They were mentioned several times throughout the hour-long program including a mention by members of New Order and there was some brief film footage of what appeared to be a1975ish TV Studio performance (?). The film footage further serves to illuminate KW's pioneering nature as some of the instruments, especially the percussion "devices", had that definite home-made look. As expected, the quartet was impecably groomed and clothed. However the producers of this series obviously erred during their summation of this episode by concluding with the statement that the emergence of genres such as techno, house, etc., etc., could be traced back to Planet Rock. They neglected to take one additional step back to the source! Russ Curry "One-Two" ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #368 ******************************* From: kraftwerk To: kraftwerk-digest Subject: kraftwerk-digest V2 #369 Reply-To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk Precedence: bulk kraftwerk-digest Saturday, 30 September 1995 Volume 02 : Number 369 Re: Kraftwerk on Public Television Re: Kraftwerk on Public Television Pocket Calculator on VH-1 Re: Kraftwerk on Public Television Re: Kraftwerk on Public Television Aktivitat Magazine? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 11:12:16 MET+100 Subject: Re: Kraftwerk on Public Television Really-From: "ZAEPKE.KLAUS" > They were > mentioned several times throughout the hour-long program including a mention > by members of New Order and there was some brief film footage of what > appeared to be a1975ish TV Studio performance (?). The film footage further > serves to illuminate KW's pioneering nature as some of the instruments, > especially the percussion "devices", had that definite home-made look. As > expected, the quartet was impecably groomed and clothed. I know of two Kraftwerk TV Studio performances from 1975, both with "Autobahn". One for the BBC, one for an American station (Los Angeles, I believe). Could you please give a closer description of the Kraftwerk part of the film, to identify whether it was from the British or the American TV appearance? Were there comments spoken over the music? Thanks in advance! I have a tape with the American "Autobahn" TV appearance, but only the audio track, not the video. Is there anyone who has this performance on video? Klaus Zaepke ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 07:23:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Kraftwerk on Public Television Really-From: Ravi Baskaran > However the producers of this series obviously erred during their summation > of this episode by concluding with the statement that the emergence of genres > such as techno, house, etc., etc., could be traced back to Planet Rock. They > neglected to take one additional step back to the source! But that is the truth!! Today's dance music _is_ traced back to stuff like Planet Rock which combines the ingenuity and European aesthetics of KW and the funkiness and attitude of Black New York Culture; it's like you can't have one without the other. And Kraftwerk was soundly recognised as the primary influence of Planet Rock (wasn't it weird to see this big guy wearing African clothing talking about Trans Europe Express?!?). - -Ravi You can never give the finger to the blind. - Dean Wareham. - --- Ravi Baskaran baskaran@bb.iu.net rb04606@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 95 9:28:26 CDT Subject: Pocket Calculator on VH-1 Really-From: norz@trojan.convex.com (Gregory Norz) Here's an interesting little tidbit. I was just watching a VH-1 special about desing album covers and the melody for Pocket Calculator was in the background. Quite nice to know that some music stations recognize great music. Too bad 90% of the viewers wouldn't even be able to guess where that sound bite came from... greg ************************************************************************* Gregory R. Norz 3000 Waterview Parkway Convex Computer Corporation Richardson, TX 75083 Configuration Analyst (214) 497-4199 Email : norz@convex.com "Just for the sake of it make sure you're always frowning; it shows the world that you've got substance and depth..." - Pet Shop Boys ************************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 11:01:36 -0400 Subject: Re: Kraftwerk on Public Television Really-From: Curryous@aol.com Hi Klaus: They were playing Autobahn and it looked like they were in a television studio with no audience (or seats for that matter). They were all standing and were in stage formation with thier neon names towards the front. ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 1995 10:45:18 -0600 (MDT) Subject: Re: Kraftwerk on Public Television Really-From: Lazlo Nibble > (wasn't it weird to see this big guy wearing African clothing talking > about Trans Europe Express?!?). I loved it! In my head, I could see Bem peering through the glass at this record shop, waiting for them to open so he could buy "Numbers" when it came out. :-) - -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo) ------------------------------ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Date: Sat, 30 Sep 1995 00:51:11 -0400 Subject: Aktivitat Magazine? Really-From: NLavely@aol.com I was wondering if Paul Wilkingson's address is still as it is in the K-werk infobahr address book? I was going to send my money over the big Atlantic to get all the back issues of Aktivitat. Thanks, Nick ------------------------------ End of kraftwerk-digest V2 #369 *******************************