Date: Thu, 2 Jun 94 04:00:15 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #339 Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 2 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 339 Today's Topics: John Richey old Album info (3 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 Jun 94 16:22:59 -0400 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: John Richey To: kraftwerk Really-From: John Richey Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >Wir fahr'n fahr'n fahr'n auf der Autobahn. > -------------------------- >Really-From: Hillebrand Boorsma >Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >Hi there (especially Jose), > >Due to lack of KW events, me and 3 friends created our own KW tour last >weekend. We took the autobahn to Duesseldorf, then to Frankfurt and watched >the TEE at the central station. Then we took a look at the buildings of >the Deutsche Bank. At the post museum, we made a telephone call. Finally, we >went to the airport to dance at the Dorian Grey. Great techno over there. >Heard some familiar samples. And the german Models we spotted there were >certainly looking good. Went back home on the autobahn...autobahn...autobahn... >_______________________________________________________________________________ > Hillebrand Boorsma=Boorsma@duttncb.tn.tudelft.nl=+31 15782473 +31 15615553 >"I'm the antenna,catching vibrations;You're the transmitter,give information" Hello Jose, good to know you are still there. Hillebrand, sounds like what I once did. I have not had much time to write lately, I am leaving for Europe this weekend, I have moved to Berlin to study, I will keep in touch from there. Let us know what you hear about shows this summer. I am sorry to hear about the Lydd show, perhaps the London show will include KW. John ------------------------------ Date: 01 Jun 1994 12:32:57 +0000 (U) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: old Album info To: kraftwerk Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Anyone, Is the album 'Electro Kinetic' (1981) an actual Kraftwerk album or just related in some way? Also, the track 'Tour de France' was said to be on the Electric Cafe album. It's not on the U.S. released CD. Is it on the German release? Thanks, Lon Freeman freeman@msmail.bms.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 17:58:54 +0100 (BST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: old Album info To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard Ingram Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Anyone, > > Is the album 'Electro Kinetic' (1981) an actual Kraftwerk album or just related > in some way? Sorry can't help on this one ! > Also, the track 'Tour de France' was said to be on the Electric Cafe album. > It's not on the U.S. released CD. Is it on the German release? > > Thanks, > > Lon Freeman > freeman@msmail.bms.com I don't know if Tour de France is on any Albums - wasn't it on the one that they pulled out of in 83/84 ?? My copy of Electric Cafe does not have it on. I am surprised they did not put it on the Mix CD. Maybe when the next CD compilation is released it will be on that. Any news on any concerts new CDs ? Rich. +----------------------+-------------------------------------------------------+ | ---- --- | The Crows Maintain, A Single Crow Could Destroy | | / / / | Heaven, That Is Doubtless, But Doesn't Move Heaven, | | / ANGERINE /__/ REAM | For, Heaven Implies Precisely: Impossibility Of Crows | | | +----------------+------------------------+ | To Dream Is To Live | Franz Kafka | Richard Ingram | rji@inmos.co.uk | +----------------------+-------------+----------------+------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Jun 94 21:14:20 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: old Album info To: kraftwerk Really-From: SubrataB@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu [1] Electro-kinetic is a compilation, I believe. [2] Tour de France is not on any copy of Electric Cafe that I've seen (inclusive of U.S., U.K., German & Spanish versions). Apart from a possible inclusion on the Breakin' soundtrack (I think, though I could be wrong), it is not available on CD. ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sat, 4 Jun 94 04:00:13 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #340 Kraftwerk Digest Sat, 4 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 340 Today's Topics: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #339 (3 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Jun 94 16:36:30 +0200 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #339 To: kraftwerk Really-From: avz@nicotina.inesc.pt (Andre Zuquete) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >From datta@cs.uwp.edu Thu Jun 2 11:03:09 1994 Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #339 | Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 2 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 339 | Date: Wed, 01 Jun 94 21:14:20 EDT | Subject: old Album info | Really-From: SubrataB@aol.com | | [2] Tour de France is not on any copy of Electric Cafe that I've seen | (inclusive of U.S., U.K., German & Spanish versions). Apart from a possible | inclusion on the Breakin' soundtrack (I think, though I could be wrong), it | is not available on CD. Yes, it is available on CD -- CD 1 of 2 from the Dusseldorf concert, 31/10/1991. Andre' #include _______________________________________________________________________________ __ / Andre' Ventura Zu'quete /|_ _|_ / / / _ _|_ / e-mail: avz@inesc.pt /-| )(_| (- /_|_)(_|_)(- | (- / Phone: +351 1 3100 225 (247) | / URL: http://albertina.inesc.pt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- INESC (Instituto de Engenharia de Sistemas e Computadores) R. Alves Redol 9, 6. 1000 Lisboa, PORTUGAL Fax: +351 1 525843 _______________________________________________________________________________ >>> Indonesians are killing innocent people in East Timor <<< ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 16:23:32 +0100 (BST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #339 To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard Ingram Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Really-From: avz@nicotina.inesc.pt (Andre Zuquete) > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > >From datta@cs.uwp.edu Thu Jun 2 11:03:09 1994 > Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #339 > > | Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 2 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 339 > | Date: Wed, 01 Jun 94 21:14:20 EDT > | Subject: old Album info > > | Really-From: SubrataB@aol.com > | > | [2] Tour de France is not on any copy of Electric Cafe that I've seen > | (inclusive of U.S., U.K., German & Spanish versions). Apart from a possible > | inclusion on the Breakin' soundtrack (I think, though I could be wrong), it > | is not available on CD. > > Yes, it is available on CD -- CD 1 of 2 from the Dusseldorf concert, 31/10/1991. > > Andre' Is this CD a bootleg or official release ? Can't remember if it is on Huete Abend ? Rich. +----------------------+-------------------------------------------------------+ | ---- --- | The Crows Maintain, A Single Crow Could Destroy | | / / / | Heaven, That Is Doubtless, But Doesn't Move Heaven, | | / ANGERINE /__/ REAM | For, Heaven Implies Precisely: Impossibility Of Crows | | | +----------------+------------------------+ | To Dream Is To Live | Franz Kafka | Richard Ingram | rji@inmos.co.uk | +----------------------+-------------+----------------+------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Jun 94 23:40:47 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #339 To: kraftwerk Really-From: SubrataB@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I think it's a bootleg..if we include those, you can also hear it on Zurich and Brixton 1991. But again, to my knowledge, it's never been OFFICIALLY released on CD. If I'm wrong, someone please shout... ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sun, 5 Jun 94 04:00:12 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #341 Kraftwerk Digest Sun, 5 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 341 Today's Topics: TDF was released on CD!! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 5 Jun 94 01:38:00 -0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: TDF was released on CD!! To: kraftwerk Really-From: dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl (Dolf Wiemer) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu KML>I think it's a bootleg..if we include those, you can also hear it on Zurich >and Brixton 1991. But again, to my knowledge, it's never been OFFICIALLY >released on CD. If I'm wrong, someone please shout... TDF was released once on a official CD-release. It was listed on a sampler-CD which was released in Germany in 1993. This CD contained a lot of disco-best hits from Germany. I cannot recall the exact title but I'm pretty sure about that it was mentioned on this list. Perhaps anyone else remembers? | /|\ | dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl | /|\ | | / | \ | Dolf Wiemer | / | \ | | --------------- | P.O. Box 62, 6720 AB Bennekom | --------------- | | ' / | \ ` | The Netherlands | ' / | \ ` | | / | \ | +31 (0)8389-13576 or 15564 | / | \ | ---- HACOM BBS, Amersfoort, The Netherlands. +31-33-803610/801882/806321. !!! 6 High Speed Nodes, over 10 GIEG of files. FREE USENET/INTERNET/ILINK/WEB/PCB Europe's Software distributing point. Home for MUSTANG Products (Qmodem/Wcat) Support BBS for many software-authors. Datacomm. automation & consulting. ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Mon, 6 Jun 94 04:00:13 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #342 Kraftwerk Digest Mon, 6 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 342 Today's Topics: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 5 Jun 94 19:27 BST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: To: kraftwerk Really-From: William John Hulley Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu In-reply-to: <199406020900.AA05753@cs.uwp.edu> (kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu) Subject: Re: old Album info (Kraftwerk Digest V1 #339) Reply-to: jonny@fuzzball.demon.co.uk X-Mailer: Emacs 19.19 "Freeman, Lon C." writes: > Is the album 'Electro Kinetic' (1981) an actual Kraftwerk album or just related > in some way? Electro Kinetic is a 'Reflections' series compilation of tracks from KW2, Ralf & Florian and Autobahn. It lists the productions as ranging from 1972 to 1974. Strom and Spule 4 from KW2; Autobahn, Mitternacht and Kometenmelodie 2 from Autobahn; and the rest Ananas Symphonie, Heimatklange and Tanzmusik I assume are from Ralf & Florian (which I'm still looking for on vinyl). -- john. __ /\ ________________________________________________________________________ /()\ ``If You Act Like A Dumbshit, William John Hulley / \ They'll Treat You As An Equal'' jonny@fuzzball.demon.co.uk /______\ -- J. R. "Bob" Dobbs. (0206) 761475 ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Tue, 7 Jun 94 04:00:15 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #343 Kraftwerk Digest Tue, 7 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 343 Today's Topics: New saleslist Read this!!!! TDF on CD (2 msgs) What is "Aktivitat" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 20:32:31 +0200 (MET DST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: New saleslist To: kraftwerk Really-From: bombuzal Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hello All Kraftwerk Collectors, I am preparing a new Great Kraftwerk saleslist, which will be ready within a few weeks. It will contain a lot of interesting live recordings like The Remix, Virtu Ex Machina, Neue Schone Welt, Traffic Jam on Autobahn, Live Dusseldorf Philipshalle, Live Cologne 1975, Heute Abend, Computers in love and Hyper Cerebral Machine. All are on CD. I also contains a huge stock of very rare collectors item in all kinds of formats from all periods on vinyl. If you want a copy of this list, please send me a reply. contact me at : bombuzal@hacktic.nl Greetings, Peter van Dam, Holland. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jun 94 20:16:17 +0200 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Read this!!!! To: kraftwerk Really-From: sv3terca@ida.his.se (Terje Carlsson) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Does any of you know an FTP-address where PC-sound is the thing? Thanx in advance! sv3terca ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 11:51:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: TDF on CD To: kraftwerk Really-From: Dennis Logemann Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi Dolf! (quotes from your mail) >TDF was released once on a official CD-release. It was listed on a >sampler-CD which was released in Germany in 1993. This CD contained a >lot of disco-best hits from Germany. I cannot recall the exact title but >I'm pretty sure about that it was mentioned on this list. Perhaps anyone >else remembers? Yes, "Lifetime, Happy Time" Manu mentioned in January: >I have "DJ's BEST" omunibus CD (No. 261281-222). This CD distributed >by BMG Records in Germany. Tour de France is 3:42 version. > >Including: > >Snap / The Power 5:42 >Deskee / Let There Be The House 6:23 >The Unknown Cases / Masimbabele 5:54 >George Kranz / Din Daa Daa 6:20 >ReadyMade / ReadyMade 4:16 >West Bam / Monkey Say Monkey Do 6:48 >Kraftwerk / Tour de France 3:42 >Liaisons Dangereuses / Los nin~nos del parque 5:00 >DAF / Brothers 6:08 >Die Toten Hosen / Hip Hop Bommi Bop 4:18 >Georgie Red / If I Say Stop Then Stop 7:25 >Ledernacken / Amok 3:29 I don't have or have seen this one, but it seems to exist. -- DeLo eMail to: Dennis.Logemann@Arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE remember: "Man needs escape as he needs deep sleep and good fun" (FGTH, ZTAS) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Jun 94 22:30:00 -0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: TDF on CD To: kraftwerk Really-From: dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl (Dolf Wiemer) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu KML>>TDF was released once on a official CD-release. It was listed on a >>sampler-CD which was released in Germany in 1993. This CD contained a >>lot of disco-best hits from Germany. I cannot recall the exact title but >>I'm pretty sure about that it was mentioned on this list. Perhaps anyone >>else remembers? KML>Yes, "Lifetime, Happy Time" Manu mentioned in Januar KML>>I have "DJ's BEST" omunibus CD (No. 261281-222). This CD distributed >>by BMG Records in Germany. Tour de France is 3:42 version. >> >>Including: >> >>Snap / The Power 5:42 >>Deskee / Let There Be The House 6:23 >>The Unknown Cases / Masimbabele 5:54 >>George Kranz / Din Daa Daa 6:20 >>ReadyMade / ReadyMade 4:16 >>West Bam / Monkey Say Monkey Do 6:48 >>Kraftwerk / Tour de France 3:42 >>Liaisons Dangereuses / Los nin~nos del parque 5:00 >>DAF / Brothers 6:08 >>Die Toten Hosen / Hip Hop Bommi Bop 4:18 >>Georgie Red / If I Say Stop Then Stop 7:25 >>Ledernacken / Amok 3:29 KML>I don't have or have seen this one, but it seems to exist. That's excactly the one I had in mind. It was mentioned in one of the last issues of 'Aktivitat'. Too bad the single-version is on the CD. greets, Dolf | /|\ | dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl | /|\ | | / | \ | Dolf Wiemer | / | \ | | --------------- | P.O. Box 62, 6720 AB Bennekom | --------------- | | ' / | \ ` | The Netherlands | ' / | \ ` | | / | \ | +31 (0)8389-13576 or 15564 | / | \ | ---- HACOM BBS, Amersfoort, The Netherlands. +31-33-803610/801882/806321. !!! 6 High Speed Nodes, over 10 GIEG of files. FREE USENET/INTERNET/ILINK/WEB/PCB Europe's Software distributing point. Home for MUSTANG Products (Qmodem/Wcat) Support BBS for many software-authors. Datacomm. automation & consulting. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 08:02:16 +0200 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: What is "Aktivitat" To: kraftwerk Really-From: gunnar_johansson@expressen.se Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu ...someone wrote: >That's excactly the one I had in mind. It was mentioned in one of the >last issues of 'Aktivitat'. Too bad the single-version is on the CD. I understand that "Aktivitat" is some kind of paper or fanzine. Can annyone please tell me more about it? ---------------------------------------- Gunnar R Johansson e-mail: gunnar_johansson@expressen.se "Expressen" - Scandinavias largest daily ---------------------------------------- ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Wed, 8 Jun 94 04:00:13 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #344 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 8 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 344 Today's Topics: Karl Bartos live New saleslist (3 msgs) undeliverable ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 14:03:09 +0200 (MET DST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Karl Bartos live To: kraftwerk Really-From: Dennis Logemann Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi *! If anybody is interested: yesterday I read an article about Karl Bartos in the latest issue of a German magazine called KEYBOARDS (try to find out what it's about... ;). It says that he will do a workshop about drumcomputers at the Musikschule in Neuss, Germany, in Room 11. It starts next Saturday (June 11th) at 10 a.m. and will cost 30,- DM. Somehow fantastic: to do a workshop with Karl Bartos... I don't think it's a rumour, the source is very reliable, but don't flame me, if you go there and nothing happens. If you can reach KEYBOARDS, read yourself, the article is on one of the first pages. This issue also contains an interview with Vince Clarke. Hope to see you there, -- DeLo eMail to: Dennis.Logemann@Arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE remember: "Man needs escape as he needs deep sleep and good fun" (FGTH, ZTAS) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 94 7:03:25 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: New saleslist To: kraftwerk Really-From: rhronik@pen.k12.va.us (Richard H. Hronik Jr.) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu According to kraftwerk mailing list: > > I am preparing a new Great Kraftwerk saleslist, which will be ready > within a few weeks. It will contain a lot of interesting live recordings like > The Remix, Virtu Ex Machina, Neue Schone Welt, Traffic Jam on Autobahn, > Live Dusseldorf Philipshalle, Live Cologne 1975, Heute Abend, Computers > in love and Hyper Cerebral Machine. All are on CD. > I also contains a huge stock of very rare collectors item in all kinds of > formats from all periods on vinyl. If you want a copy of this list, please > send me a reply. > > contact me at : bombuzal@hacktic.nl > > Greetings, > > Peter van Dam, Holland. > > > > Please send me a copy of your new list. Thanks! -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ? ? ? ? Rich Hronik ? Howard Stern ? ? rhronik@pen.k12.va.us ? for ? ? ? Governor ? ? Making TV magic in ? ? ? Annandale, VA ? ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 94 15:08:04 MET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: New saleslist To: kraftwerk Really-From: Erik Knain Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Yes, please, I would like to receive a copy of your saleslist. Thanks a lot! Greetings, Erik Knain ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Jun 94 13:58:56 MDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: New saleslist To: kraftwerk Really-From: Robert Slaven Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Hello All Kraftwerk Collectors, > > I am preparing a new Great Kraftwerk saleslist, which will be ready > within a few weeks. It will contain a lot of interesting live recordings like > The Remix, Virtu Ex Machina, Neue Schone Welt, Traffic Jam on Autobahn, > Live Dusseldorf Philipshalle, Live Cologne 1975, Heute Abend, Computers > in love and Hyper Cerebral Machine. All are on CD. > I also contains a huge stock of very rare collectors item in all kinds of > formats from all periods on vinyl. If you want a copy of this list, please > send me a reply. > Put me on your mailing list, please. BTW, glad to see there are some other Kraftwerk fans out there...I was beginning to think I was one of the only ones left! Anyone got 'Ralf & Florian' on CD, or know where it can be found? Or, for that matter, any of the earlier stuff that never made it across the pond? -- -------robert_slaven@gov.nt.ca--------73757.601@compuserve.com------- Robert Slaven I like traffic lights, I like traffic lights, I like Legislative Assembly of the NWT traffic lights, but not Yellowknife, Northwest Territories, Canada when they are red. *******Just 'cause I work for 'em doesn't mean I speak for 'em******* ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jun 1994 21:38:37 -0700 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: undeliverable To: kraftwerk Really-From: "QMGATE" Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Mail*Link(r) SMTP TDF was released on CD!! Really-From: dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl (Dolf Wiemer) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu KML>I think it's a bootleg..if we include those, you can also hear it on Zurich >and Brixton 1991. But again, to my knowledge, it's never been OFFICIALLY >released on CD. If I'm wrong, someone please shout... TDF was released once on a official CD-release. It was listed on a sampler-CD which was released in Germany in 1993. This CD contained a lot of disco-best hits from Germany. I cannot recall the exact title but I'm pretty sure about that it was mentioned on this list. Perhaps anyone else remembers? | /|\ | dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl | /|\ | | / | \ | Dolf Wiemer | / | \ | | --------------- | P.O. Box 62, 6720 AB Bennekom | --------------- | | ' / | \ ` | The Netherlands | ' / | \ ` | | / | \ | +31 (0)8389-13576 or 15564 | / | \ | ---- HACOM BBS, Amersfoort, The Netherlands. +31-33-803610/801882/806321. !!! 6 High Speed Nodes, over 10 GIEG of files. FREE USENET/INTERNET/ILINK/WEB/PCB Europe's Software distributing point. Home for MUSTANG Products (Qmodem/Wcat) Support BBS for many software-authors. Datacomm. automation & consulting. ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by qmgate.corp.apple.com with SMTP;4 Jun 1994 21:38:34 -0700 Received: from federal-excess.apple.com by jumbo.apple.com with SMTP (5.64/22-Jun-1993-eef) id AA26876; Sat, 4 Jun 94 21:35:32 PDT for bruce_lloyd@qmgate.corp.apple.com Received: from [131.210.1.4] by federal-excess.apple.com with SMTP (5.64/26-Sep-1993-eef) id AA16326; Sat, 4 Jun 94 21:33:58 PDT for bruce_lloyd@qmgate.corp.apple.com Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA03357 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Sat, 4 Jun 1994 23:11:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199406050411.AA03357@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA03346 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sat, 4 Jun 1994 23:11:13 -0500 Received: from wtrlnd by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA02587 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Sun, 5 Jun 1994 06:11:14 +0200 Received: by admin.wlink.nl (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Sun, 05 Jun 94 05:45:16 1 for kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Subject: TDF was released on CD!! From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (kraftwerk mailing list) Sender: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Errors-To: kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Date: Sun, 5 Jun 94 01:38:00 -0000 Organization: HACOM BBS - AMERSFOORT - THE NETHERLANDS +31-33-803610 X-Old-Reply-To: dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl (Dolf Wiemer) ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Thu, 9 Jun 94 04:00:15 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #345 Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 9 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 345 Today's Topics: Elektric Music ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 20:54:19 -0400 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Elektric Music To: kraftwerk Really-From: Erik Scott Ferlanti Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Wow! I just got "Esperanto". What a great album. I never picked it up before because it was an import. Today I found it released domestically at Tower. I'm very psyched!!!! The only thing that bums me out is that I am writing songs about information and TV, and now it will seem like I'm copying them, when I'm really not. This is going to be played to death. Shane king1@genie.geis.com ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Fri, 10 Jun 94 04:00:15 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #346 Kraftwerk Digest Fri, 10 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 346 Today's Topics: Elektric Music (2 msgs) New saleslist ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 09 Jun 1994 09:03:59 +0000 (U) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Elektric Music To: kraftwerk Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >Wow! I just got "Esperanto". What a great album. I never picked it >up before because it was an import. Today I found it released domestically >at Tower. I'm very psyched!!!! >The only thing that bums me out is that I am writing songs about information >and TV, and now it will seem like I'm copying them, when I'm really not. >This is going to be played to death. >Shane >king1@genie.geis.com It is a great album isn't it? You can really hear Karl Bartos' contribution to KraftWerk's previous songs (assuming of course that he didn't take too much liberty with the other member's input). I really like the track 'Overdrive'. It sounds like Kraftwerk on speed! My kind of music. Lon _______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 13:02:03 -0700 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Elektric Music To: kraftwerk Really-From: Arg0n Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu plez unsubscribe me from this mailing list. thank you ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Jun 1994 17:37:15 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: New saleslist To: kraftwerk Really-From: DCANTRELL@wvsvax.wvnet.edu Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I would like to trade for taped copies of Ralf and Florian, Autobahn, and any other commercial releases prior to Autobahn. I have several Led Zep tapes for trade, including the 6 hour 25th anniversary show taped from CD. ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Tue, 14 Jun 94 04:00:12 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #347 Kraftwerk Digest Tue, 14 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 347 Today's Topics: Elektric Music VS Kraftwerk (4 msgs) Undeliverable, Please try a (2 msgs) unsubscribe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 16:20:08 -0400 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Elektric Music VS Kraftwerk To: kraftwerk Really-From: jlara@world.std.com (John A Lara) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I'm confused...What's the difference between EM and K? I've been searching the stores in the Boston area for Esperanto by Kraftwerk, only to find it's actually by Elektric Music. jl John Lara INTERNET: jlara@world.std.com COMPUSERVE: >INTERNET:jlara@world.std.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 16:49:51 -500 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Elektric Music VS Kraftwerk To: kraftwerk Really-From: Gabriel Yedid Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu On Mon, 13 Jun 1994, kraftwerk mailing list wrote: > Really-From: jlara@world.std.com (John A Lara) > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > I'm confused...What's the difference between EM and K? > I've been searching the stores in the Boston area for Esperanto by Kraftwerk, only to > find it's actually by Elektric Music. > > Elektric Music is a band founded by ex-KWer Karl Bartos. It consists of him, Emil Schult (cover guy), and one Lothar Manteuffel. The style is somewhat harsher and more commercial than KW, but two songs on _Esperanto_, "TV" and "Show Business", are pretty good reminders of what classic KW used to be. Karl seems to rely on vocoding and vox samples and sequences much more heavily than ralf and florian do, not always to the nicest effects (just MO). Gabe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 94 15:44:59 MDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Elektric Music VS Kraftwerk To: kraftwerk Really-From: Robert Slaven Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Really-From: jlara@world.std.com (John A Lara) > > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > > > I'm confused...What's the difference between EM and K? > > I've been searching the stores in the Boston area for Esperanto by Kraftwerk, only to > > find it's actually by Elektric Music. > > > Elektric Music is a band founded by ex-KWer Karl Bartos. It consists of > him, Emil Schult (cover guy), and one Lothar Manteuffel. The style is > somewhat harsher and more commercial than KW, but two songs on > _Esperanto_, "TV" and "Show Business", are pretty good reminders of what > classic KW used to be. Karl seems to rely on vocoding and vox samples and > sequences much more heavily than ralf and florian do, not always to the > nicest effects (just MO). > I'm new to the list, and haven't heard much on the Kraftwerk front lately. When did Karl leave KW, form EM, release Esperanto, and is this EM's first or are there more? While I'm at it, what's KW put out (if anything) since Electric Cafe and Mix? -- -------robert_slaven@gov.nt.ca--------73757.601@compuserve.com------- Robert Slaven I like traffic lights, I like traffic lights, I like Legislative Assembly of the NWT traffic lights, but not Yellowknife, Northwest Territories, Canada when they are red. *******Just 'cause I work for 'em doesn't mean I speak for 'em******* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 15:30:41 -0700 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Elektric Music VS Kraftwerk To: kraftwerk Really-From: Arg0n Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu PLez unsubscribe me ------------------------------ Date: 9 Jun 1994 13:37:31 -0700 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Undeliverable, Please try a To: kraftwerk Really-From: "QMGATE" Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Mail*Link(r) SMTP RE>Elektric Music Really-From: Arg0n Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu plez unsubscribe me from this mailing list. thank you ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by qmgate.corp.apple.com with SMTP;9 Jun 1994 13:37:14 -0700 Received: from federal-excess.apple.com by jumbo.apple.com with SMTP (5.64/22-Jun-1993-eef) id AA03925; Thu, 9 Jun 94 13:33:58 PDT for bruce_lloyd@qmgate.corp.apple.com Received: from [131.210.1.4] by federal-excess.apple.com with SMTP (5.64/26-Sep-1993-eef) id AA09218; Thu, 9 Jun 94 13:32:32 PDT for bruce_lloyd@qmgate.corp.apple.com Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA23525 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Thu, 9 Jun 1994 15:02:07 -0500 Message-Id: <199406092002.AA23525@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CSOS.ORST.EDU by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA23506 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 9 Jun 1994 15:02:02 -0500 Received: (from buccolm@localhost) by CSOS.ORST.EDU (8.6.9/8.6.6) id NAA02022 for kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu; Thu, 9 Jun 1994 13:02:03 -0700 Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 13:02:03 -0700 From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (kraftwerk mailing list) Sender: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Errors-To: kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Subject: RE: Elektric Music ------------------------------ Date: 9 Jun 1994 15:12:28 -0700 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Undeliverable, Please try a To: kraftwerk Really-From: "QMGATE" Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Mail*Link(r) SMTP RE>New saleslist Really-From: DCANTRELL@wvsvax.wvnet.edu Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I would like to trade for taped copies of Ralf and Florian, Autobahn, and any other commercial releases prior to Autobahn. I have several Led Zep tapes for trade, including the 6 hour 25th anniversary show taped from CD. ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by qmgate.corp.apple.com with SMTP;9 Jun 1994 15:12:10 -0700 Received: from federal-excess.apple.com by jumbo.apple.com with SMTP (5.64/22-Jun-1993-eef) id AA05176; Thu, 9 Jun 94 15:08:53 PDT for bruce_lloyd@qmgate.corp.apple.com Received: from [131.210.1.4] by federal-excess.apple.com with SMTP (5.64/26-Sep-1993-eef) id AA13174; Thu, 9 Jun 94 15:07:21 PDT for bruce_lloyd@qmgate.corp.apple.com Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA01480 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Thu, 9 Jun 1994 16:39:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199406092139.AA01480@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from wvnvaxa.wvnet.edu by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA01459 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 9 Jun 1994 16:39:04 -0500 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (DCANTRELL@WVSVAX) by WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU (PMDF V4.3-8 #5406) id <01HDCHJEZ57KJCPQ1R@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU>; Thu, 09 Jun 1994 17:37:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 09 Jun 1994 17:37:15 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (kraftwerk mailing list) Sender: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Errors-To: kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Subject: Re: New saleslist Organization: West Virginia Network X-Vms-To: WVNET::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 15:58:47 -0700 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: unsubscribe To: kraftwerk Really-From: Arg0n Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu plez unsubscribe me buccolm@csos.orst.edu ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Wed, 15 Jun 94 08:30:16 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #348 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 15 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 348 Today's Topics: FW: Re: What is "Aktivitat" Karl Bartos live Kraftwerk 1 and 2 for sale (2 msgs) Kraftwerk saleslist ready new EM-album in autumn '94 want to unsubscribe??? What is "Aktivitat" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Jun 94 09:11:22 PDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: FW: Re: What is "Aktivitat" To: kraftwerk Really-From: brady@onramp.net Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Jose, Yes, please do post when you get the fanzine addresses! Danke, Jim Brady ---------------Original Message--------------- Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: gunnar_johansson@expressen.se //////////////////////////////////////////// *************************** > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ *************************** Just a remind to people wanting to subscribe/unsubscribe. > I understand that "Aktivitat" is some kind of paper or fanzine. > Can annyone please tell me more about it? To the matter: Aktivitaet is an (or THE) unofficial KW fanzine. Issue 1 was edited in Jan 92. Its quality was just about not bad. Since then, there have appeared: 5 standard issues (50 pages, some with impressive colour cover) 4 special issues (20+ pages), latest one is Elektric Music Special 1 retro issue (50 pages, great colour cover, compiles updated versions of best articles from the first 3 issues) Issue 6 should be released in September. I'd say it's a must for KW fans, specially you are a collector. I don't have the addresses of distribution here but I can post them. There is distribution in: UK, US, Germany, Spain Hope that helps. Jose pepe@cti.uab.es ----------End of Original Message---------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 11:31:03 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Karl Bartos live To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: Dennis Logemann If anybody is interested: yesterday I read an article about Karl Bartos in > the latest issue of a German magazine called KEYBOARDS (try to find out what > it's about... ;). It says that he will do a workshop about drumcomputers at the > Musikschule in Neuss, Germany, in Room 11. It starts next Saturday (June 11th) > at 10 a.m. and will cost 30,- DM. Dennis, did you attend the workshop? Did it took place??? Please send a review! Jose pepe@cti.uab.es ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 14:28:54 +0200 (MET DST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk 1 and 2 for sale To: kraftwerk Really-From: bombuzal Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I can now probably supply the CD issues of Kraftwerk 1 and Kraftwerk 2. Price will be US$ 17 each ( or price code F from my saleslist ). If you are interested please contact me on : bombuzal@hacktic.nl Peter ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 18:19:15 +0100 (BST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk 1 and 2 for sale To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard W Rackham Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > I can now probably supply the CD issues of Kraftwerk 1 and Kraftwerk 2. > Price will be US$ 17 each ( or price code F from my saleslist ). If you are > interested please contact me on : bombuzal@hacktic.nl Silly question, but what CD issues of KW1 & 2 are these ? Since when have they been released on CD - or has someone decided to press some bootleg CDs of the albums ? Richard (cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 13:24:03 +0200 (MET DST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk saleslist ready To: kraftwerk Really-From: bombuzal Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hello Kraftwerk collectors, My latest biggest ever saleslist is ready now. Ask for this 464 lines saleslist. You will never again see so many items being offered. There are many live CDs, All LP's, Many 12" and 7" records an much more. If You didn't ask for a list, or asked but didn't get one, please reply to the next mailing address : bombuzal@hacktic.nl Peter van Dam ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 15:02:42 +0200 (MET DST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: new EM-album in autumn '94 To: kraftwerk Really-From: Dennis Logemann Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi Robert! (quotes from your mail) >> Elektric Music is a band founded by ex-KWer Karl Bartos. It consists of >> him, Emil Schult (cover guy), and one Lothar Manteuffel. The style is >> somewhat harsher and more commercial than KW, but two songs on >> _Esperanto_, "TV" and "Show Business", are pretty good reminders of what >> classic KW used to be. Karl seems to rely on vocoding and vox samples and >> sequences much more heavily than ralf and florian do, not always to the >> nicest effects (just MO). >> >I'm new to the list, and haven't heard much on the Kraftwerk front >lately. When did Karl leave KW, form EM, release Esperanto, and >is this EM's first or are there more? Yes, that's the way he did. And Esperanto is the first and only album until now. From Esperanto there are three single-releases: Crosstalk, TV and Lifestyle. And now something special: Last weekend I did a drum-workshop with Karl Bartos in Neuss, Germany together with only 13 other people! Karl first introduced some synthesizers from his Kraftwerk-days and in the second part we made a song with him. It was absolutely fantastic to do that with Karl Bartos! I'm sure there are many guys who won't believe me, but this happened on June, 11th in the Musikschule in Neuss, Germany - really! While talking with him he said that he's currently producing a new EM-album. He didn't want to mention its name, but he said it will contain ten songs. He announced it for this year's autumn. Once again: this is no rumour - it is information directly from Karl Bartos. >While I'm at it, what's KW put out (if anything) since >Electric Cafe and Mix? No. And Karl said that their very tired of making music, he doesn't think that they will do anything in the near future. Sorry, but that's what he said. >Robert Slaven I like traffic lights, I like traffic lights, I like Rave on, -- DeLo eMail to: Dennis.Logemann@ARBI.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.De "Wenn man schon keine Ideen hat, dann sollte man das auch ausnutzen." (Karl Bartos, Drum-Workshop in Neuss, 11.06.94) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 11:12:03 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: want to unsubscribe??? To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu No flames, but it's funny: > Really-From: Arg0n > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > > plez unsubscribe me > > buccolm@csos.orst.edu > Have you read the line that begins with the text "Requests for add/removal" ??? U'll find there the address for administrative tasks! Jose ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 11:28:51 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: What is "Aktivitat" To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: gunnar_johansson@expressen.se //////////////////////////////////////////// *************************** > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ *************************** Just a remind to people wanting to subscribe/unsubscribe. > I understand that "Aktivitat" is some kind of paper or fanzine. > Can annyone please tell me more about it? To the matter: Aktivitaet is an (or THE) unofficial KW fanzine. Issue 1 was edited in Jan 92. Its quality was just about not bad. Since then, there have appeared: 5 standard issues (50 pages, some with impressive colour cover) 4 special issues (20+ pages), latest one is Elektric Music Special 1 retro issue (50 pages, great colour cover, compiles updated versions of best articles from the first 3 issues) Issue 6 should be released in September. I'd say it's a must for KW fans, specially you are a collector. I don't have the addresses of distribution here but I can post them. There is distribution in: UK, US, Germany, Spain Hope that helps. Jose pepe@cti.uab.es ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Thu, 16 Jun 94 04:00:16 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #349 Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 16 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 349 Today's Topics: Karl Bartos quote Kraftwerk 1 and 2 for sale (2 msgs) KW 1 and 2 on CD? (3 msgs) tired of making music ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Jun 94 9:41:51 MDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Karl Bartos quote To: kraftwerk Really-From: Robert Slaven Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: Dennis Logemann > > Hi Robert! (quotes from your mail) Grin--thanks for the info and reply. > -- > DeLo > > eMail to: Dennis.Logemann@ARBI.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.De > "Wenn man schon keine Ideen hat, dann sollte man das auch ausnutzen." > (Karl Bartos, Drum-Workshop in Neuss, 11.06.94) > Dammit, I *knew* I should have taken more than just one two-semester German course in university (and that was in 1980/81, so it's *really* rusty)--what's 'ausnutzen'? (Correct me if I'm wrong: 'When one has no beautiful ideas, then one should ...?') -- -------robert_slaven@gov.nt.ca--------73757.601@compuserve.com------- Robert Slaven I like traffic lights, I like traffic lights, I like Legislative Assembly of the NWT traffic lights, but not Yellowknife, Northwest Territories, Canada when they are red. *******Just 'cause I work for 'em doesn't mean I speak for 'em******* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 14:51:52 MET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk 1 and 2 for sale To: kraftwerk Really-From: Muegeli Thomas Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Silly question, but what CD issues of KW1 & 2 are these ? Since when have they > been released on CD - or has someone decided to press some bootleg CDs of the > albums ? > > Richard (cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk) > Especially for the european kraftwerk fans: DISC DE LUXE SARL P.O.BOX 2342 L-1023 LUXEMBOURG has both CDs in their catalogue. I hjust have ordered them yesterday, so I do not know about the quality. Disc de luxe is a LIVE CD spezialised enterprise - they did also the N1 to Zurich thing, which seems to be sold out as it does not appear in their catalogue anymore... If there is some interest I can post phone and fax numbers tomorrow as I do not know them by heart... many grreitngs from switzerland thomas \\\\ ( o o ) ************oOO**(_)**OOo******************************************************* Thomas Muegeli * Universitaet Bern * Historisches Institut * Forschungsstelle fuer Regional- und Umweltgeschichte Waldstrasse 1 * Uni Tobler (Lerchenweg 36, Zimmer S224) 3427 Utzenstorf * 3000 Bern 9 Switzerland * Switzerland * ++41 (+65) 45 13 89 * Phone: ++41 (0)31/631 48 03 Fax: ++41 (0)31/631 48 66 * Internet: muegeli@hist.unibe.ch * HEPNET/SPAN: 20579::49203::muegeli ******************************************************************************** * * * DISCLAIMER: * * Views expressed here are mine and do not reflect * * those of my employer * * * ******************************************************************************* This space for rent! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 11:44:26 -0700 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk 1 and 2 for sale To: kraftwerk Really-From: jet@netcom.com (J. Eric Townsend) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu kraftwerk mailing list writes: > If there is some interest I can post phone and fax numbers tomorrow as I > do not know them by heart... please! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 11:17:32 +0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: KW 1 and 2 on CD? To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: Richard W Rackham > Silly question, but what CD issues of KW1 & 2 are these ? Since when have they > been released on CD - or has someone decided to press some bootleg CDs of the > albums ? > Can't believe they've been officialy released. They must be pirate editions. If that's the case, the ones to blame are KW themselves for not licensing their release. Jose ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jun 94 23:29:24 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: KW 1 and 2 on CD? To: kraftwerk Really-From: SubrataB@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Silly question, but what CD issues of KW1 & 2 are these ? Since when have they > been released on CD - or has someone decided to press some bootleg CDs of the > albums ? > Can't believe they've been officialy released. They must be > pirate editions. > If that's the case, the ones to blame are KW themselves for not licensing their release. >Jose Or, more likely Phillips for not recognizing the potential demand ! Perhaps we should initiate a writing campaign to the label ? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 10:47:28 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: KW 1 and 2 on CD? To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: SubrataB@aol.com > > Silly question, but what CD issues of KW1 & 2 are these ? ... > > Can't believe they've been officialy released. They must be > pirate editions.... > Or, more likely Phillips for not recognizing the potential demand ! Perhaps > we should initiate a writing campaign to the label ? No. As far as I know, KW own the rights of all their records. Philips doesn't own rights for releasing or licensing these recordings. You can be 100 % sure that if they did, they would have released them already on CD and even some sort of early tracks compilation. Jose ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 11:14:12 +0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: tired of making music To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: Dennis Logemann Karl said that their very tired of making music, he doesn't think that > they will do anything in the near future. Sorry, but that's what he said. I don't believe they're tired of making music. Why would they bother to do concerts every year since the release of The Mix? I don't think they've done it for the money, really, as they make little money of that. I've been told their earns for their concert in Barcelona '91 were just 1000000 Pesetas for every one of them. Not much really. Jose -Musique non stop- pepe@cti.uab.es ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Fri, 17 Jun 94 04:00:16 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #350 Kraftwerk Digest Fri, 17 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 350 Today's Topics: help on current music (2 msgs) KW 1 and 2 on CD? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 23:42:47 -0500 (CDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: help on current music To: kraftwerk Really-From: "C. David Holloway" Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Yes, DJ Dave is back! I'm going to dj for a friend of mine on Saturday night and I need some help. I haven't had a good music run since March! Yes, my last semester of school has kept me busy. I'm heading to Tuscaloosa tomorrow (or possibly Birmingham, hey those are the only decent cities nearby) and I need help on current music...something with beats! Any suggestions? Dave cdh1@ra.msstate.edu ...or you can call him Dave the Rave. ...or you can even call him Technodave. ...but don't call him discodave!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 01:02:36 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: help on current music To: kraftwerk Really-From: Alan Michael Parry Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Please reply privately to this horrible cross-posting... _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ flu'id (floo'-) (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) fluid@freezer.cns.udel.edu :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jun 94 19:59:31 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: KW 1 and 2 on CD? To: kraftwerk Really-From: SubrataB@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu "No. As far as I know, KW own the rights of all their records. Philips doesn't own rights for releasing or licensing these recordings. You can be 100 % sure that if they did, they would have released them already on CD and even some sort of early tracks compilation. Jose" Does that mean that Kraftwerk authorized the pre-1990s U.S. compilations ? That seems extremely unlikely to me... ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sat, 18 Jun 94 04:00:13 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #351 Kraftwerk Digest Sat, 18 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 351 Today's Topics: 90s US compilations Funny workshop with Karl B. Kraftwerk saleslist ready (2 msgs) Responding to Mr. Parry ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 11:27:04 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: 90s US compilations To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Does that mean that Kraftwerk authorized the pre-1990s U.S. compilations ? > That seems extremely unlikely to me... Don't think so either. Maybe they only have total control of pre-Radio Activity stuff. But it's strange. I'm sure someone could have released a b-sides and extended versions and remixes CD (I'm thinking of T. Call, Housephone, Computerwelt remix, even language versions as Mini Calculateur, Dentaku, etc... ) On a different note, I've forgotten to bring the info about AKTIVITAET. I should post this on Monday. As a reminding, there is distribution currently in UK, USA, Germany and Spain (done by myself :) Jose pepe@cti.uab.es ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 12:06:17 +0200 (MET DST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Funny workshop with Karl B. To: kraftwerk Really-From: Dennis Logemann Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi Robert! (quotes from your mail) >> "Wenn man schon keine Ideen hat, dann sollte man das auch ausnutzen." >> (Karl Bartos, Drum-Workshop in Neuss, 11.06.94) >> >Dammit, I *knew* I should have taken more than just one two-semester >German course in university (and that was in 1980/81, so it's *really* >rusty)--what's 'ausnutzen'? (Correct me if I'm wrong: 'When one has >no beautiful ideas, then one should ...?') No, it's not 'schoen', it's 'schon' - very hard to translate. And 'ausnutzen' could be 'use up'. I think the translation may be "If one has no ideas, then one should use up that." I will try to explain that a bit: In the second part of that workshop everyone of us thirteen people should play a small drumpattern, which Karl recorded with his software. After that he wanted to combine some of them to a full song. So everyone of us first chose an drumsound (Karl had loaded a bank of that wonderful old Kraftwerk-sounds into a keyboard, most of them made on a Minimoog), then played a while and after that, Karl cut the best part out and the next one tried his best. But one of us chose a sound and then he said: 'I have no ideas what to play...?' So here Karl answered: 'If one has no ideas, then one should use up that.' (everyone laughed :). And Karl showed us how he does a rhythm- pattern, if he has 'no ideas': he plays a random drumsound on every 1/16-note of the pattern. After that he cuts out the sounds on the 'heavy' parts. If the result is not what he wants, he transposes the whole pattern, so that all the drumsounds change. And if that doesn't come to a good end, he starts the whole process again. Just a remark at the end for the car-drivers of us Kraftwerk-fans: Karl has a silver Volkswagen-Golf 1, the number is 'D - AU 132' (the 'D' stands for Duesseldorf). I've not expected Karl to drive such a car :) And: I also have a Golf 1 :) Hope you got a bit of how this workshop was, -- DeLo eMail to: Dennis.Logemann@ARBI.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.De "Wenn man schon keine Ideen hat, dann sollte man das auch ausnutzen." (Karl Bartos, Drum-Workshop in Neuss, 11.06.94) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 15:36:09 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk saleslist ready To: kraftwerk Really-From: TAVARESAC@VAX.ETOWN.EDU Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Can you send me a copy of your big saleslist? Thanks, Andre' Tavares tavaresac@vax.etown.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:00:43 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk saleslist ready To: kraftwerk Really-From: TAVARESAC@VAX.ETOWN.EDU Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >Message-Id: <199406171934.AA13376@cs.uwp.edu> >Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 15:36:09 -0400 (EDT) >From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (kraftwerk mailing list) >Sender: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu >To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu >Errors-To: kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >Subject: RE: Kraftwerk saleslist ready > >Really-From: TAVARESAC@VAX.ETOWN.EDU >Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > > Can you send me a copy of your big saleslist? > > Thanks, > > Andre' Tavares > > tavaresac@vax.etown.edu Ooops... Sorry about that. I should have responded directly to the originator of the message... Andre' Tavares tavaresac@vax.etown.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 07:53:53 -0500 (CDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Responding to Mr. Parry To: kraftwerk Really-From: "C. David Holloway" Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Private responses? What the #$%& for!? Dave cdh1@ra.msstate.edu ...or you can call him Dave the Rave. ...or you can even call him Technodave. ...but don't call him discodave!!! ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sun, 19 Jun 94 04:00:16 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #352 Kraftwerk Digest Sun, 19 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 352 Today's Topics: Esperanto ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Jun 94 09:07:35 CDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Esperanto To: kraftwerk Really-From: woody Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I have a US domestic copy of Electric Music's "Esperanto" for sale if anybody wants it. I just bought it and a friend of mine just sent me a copy from Germany. I'll sell it for $8 plus shipping. Or I'll trade. Just contact me directly. ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Tue, 21 Jun 94 04:00:14 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #353 Kraftwerk Digest Tue, 21 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 353 Today's Topics: AKTIVITAET fanzine info (2 msgs) Descr. Schone Neue Welt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 13:21:37 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: AKTIVITAET fanzine info To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Here's the promised info about the unofficial Kraftwerk (and Elektric Music) fanzine. It can be obtained from: USA: F. Becker, Mach 25 music, PO Box 26331, IN 46226 GERMANY: G. Poecker, Maerkerwaldstr. 3, 64625 BENSHEIM E-mail: 0656060@pool.uni-mannheim.de SPAIN: J. Garcia, Apartado 108, 08202 SABADELL E-mail: pepe@cti.uab.es UK and rest of the world: IAC, 108 Cummings Park Crescent, Northfield, ABERDEEN AB2 7AR, SCOTLAND You should enclose with your request of info an SAE or IRC (enveloppe with stamp or International Reply Coupon; these latests ones can be obtained at post offices). Of course not necessary if you use E-mail. I hope that helps. Jose Garcia ------------------------------ Date: 20 Jun 1994 11:58:41 +0000 (U) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: AKTIVITAET fanzine info To: kraftwerk Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >Here's the promised info about the unofficial Kraftwerk (and Elektric Music) >fanzine. >It can be obtained from: >USA: > F. Becker, Mach 25 music, PO Box 26331, IN 46226 >GERMANY: > G. Poecker, Maerkerwaldstr. 3, 64625 BENSHEIM > E-mail: 0656060@pool.uni-mannheim.de >SPAIN: > J. Garcia, Apartado 108, 08202 SABADELL > E-mail: pepe@cti.uab.es >UK and rest of the world: > IAC, 108 Cummings Park Crescent, Northfield, ABERDEEN AB2 7AR, > SCOTLAND >You should enclose with your request of info an SAE or IRC (enveloppe >with stamp or International Reply Coupon; these latests ones can be >obtained at post offices). Of course not necessary if you use E-mail. >I hope that helps. >Jose Garcia Jose, Does 'F. Becker, Mach 25 music, PO Box 26331, IN 46226' have an E-Mail address? Thanks, Lon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 23:57:40 +0200 (MET DST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Descr. Schone Neue Welt To: kraftwerk Really-From: bombuzal Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Performer : Kraftwerk Title : Schone Neue Welt, Re-Mix, Re-Model Description : Remixes of More recent Kraftwerk Tracks. Sound Quality : 7 out of 10 Duration : 78:35 No. of Tracks : 11 Label : Ping Pong 9401 Released : 1994 Medium : CD Cover : Man-Machine photo on stairs. CD has Electric Cafe heads printed on front. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Track Information : 1 - Electric Cafe Mixx-It Remix 5:06 2 - Die Roboter US-Rap-Mix 5:33 Very funny Rap Mix ( taken from vinyl ) 3 - Sex Objekt Demo-mix 4:18 4 - Computerwelt Razormaid-Mix 10:00 5 - Powerwork Demo Mix ( from vinyl ) 9:10 6 - Telephone Mix 10:01 7 - Re-Werked Musicfactory Master Mix 4:39 8 - The Mix-Medley Razormaid-Mix 13:18 9 - Sex Objekt Razormaid-Mix 7:41 10 - Housephone 4:56 11 - The Telephone Call Razormaid-Mix 6:48 The tracks 1, 4, 7, 8, 9 and 11 have also been released on The Remix You can better buy The Remix CD. The quality is better. The tracks 7, 8, 9 have also been released on Rebuilt 91 Live Dusseldorf ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Wed, 22 Jun 94 04:00:13 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #354 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 22 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 354 Today's Topics: cars! Kraftwerk 1 and 2 for sale Kraftwerk Digest V1 #353 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Jun 94 19:08:00 -0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: cars! To: kraftwerk Really-From: dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl (Dolf Wiemer) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu KML>Just a remark at the end for the car-drivers of us Kraftwerk-fans: >Karl has a silver Volkswagen-Golf 1, the number is 'D - AU 132' (the >'D' stands for Duesseldorf). I've not expected Karl to drive such a car :) >And: I also have a Golf 1 :) In May 1993 they rided: Volkswagen 2 (Ralf), Polo (Florian), Audi 80 (Fritz Hilpert). All were dark blue (do you remember JoCa?). This just for non-serious info. Dolf. ---- HACOM BBS, Amersfoort, The Netherlands. +31-33-803610/801882/806321. !!! 6 High Speed Nodes, over 10 GIEG of files. FREE USENET/INTERNET/ILINK/WEB/PCB Europe's Software distributing point. Home for MUSTANG Products (Qmodem/Wcat) Support BBS for many software-authors. Datacomm. automation & consulting. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:17:59 MET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk 1 and 2 for sale To: kraftwerk Really-From: Muegeli Thomas Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 15 Jun 1994 11:44:26 -0700 Message-ID: <199406151844.AA29407@cs.uwp.edu> > Really-From: jet@netcom.com (J. Eric Townsend) > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > kraftwerk mailing list writes: > > If there is some interest I can post phone and fax numbers tomorrow as I > > do not know them by heart... > > please! Sorry for not doing so sooner, but my computer at home went completly nuts after installing a new hdd and cd-rom, so no callback-connections to the university, arrgh (feeling so lonely over here in the province...) So here are the fax/phone numbers for DISC DE LUXE SARL PO BOX 2342 L-1023 LUXEMBOURG PHONE 352 (=Country Code) 48 58 55 FAX 352 48 54 03 Catlogue-Numbers of KRAFTWERK 1 & 2: 941001, 941002 Prices: normally 22$ each plus postage (1-3 pcs overseas, i.e. USA 3.50$) they do also accept VISA/MASTER CARDS and int. money oders not to be forgotten should be that I'm in no way affiliated with disc de luxe and i'm doing this just for infromation purposes greetings from switzerland, thomas \\\\ ( o o ) ************oOO**(_)**OOo******************************************************* Thomas Muegeli * Universitaet Bern * Historisches Institut * Forschungsstelle fuer Regional- und Umweltgeschichte Waldstrasse 1 * Uni Tobler (Lerchenweg 36, Zimmer S224) 3427 Utzenstorf * 3000 Bern 9 Switzerland * Switzerland * ++41 (+65) 45 13 89 * Phone: ++41 (0)31/631 48 03 Fax: ++41 (0)31/631 48 66 * Internet: muegeli@hist.unibe.ch * HEPNET/SPAN: 20579::49203::muegeli ******************************************************************************** * * * DISCLAIMER: * * Views expressed here are mine and do not reflect * * those of my employer * * * ******************************************************************************* This space for rent! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:51:44 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #353 To: kraftwerk Really-From: salo Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu unsubscribe salo@io.org ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Thu, 23 Jun 94 04:00:12 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #355 Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 23 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 355 Today's Topics: AKTIVITAET fanzine info cars! (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 11:08:12 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: AKTIVITAET fanzine info To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: "Freeman, Lon C." > Does 'F. Becker, Mach 25 music, PO Box 26331, IN 46226' have an E-Mail address? No. He does not have access to internet resources. Jose ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 11:06:51 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: cars! To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl (Dolf Wiemer) > > In May 1993 they rided: Volkswagen 2 (Ralf), Polo (Florian), Audi 80 > (Fritz Hilpert). All were dark blue (do you remember JoCa?) Dolf, I remember this. I was too excited to pay close attention to their cars though. I thought they were black! Jose ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Jun 94 18:23:00 -0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: cars! To: kraftwerk Really-From: dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl (Dolf Wiemer) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu DW>KML>Just a remark at the end for the car-drivers of us Kraftwerk-fans: > >Karl has a silver Volkswagen-Golf 1, the number is 'D - AU 132' (the > >'D' stands for Duesseldorf). I've not expected Karl to drive such a car : > >And: I also have a Golf 1 :) >In May 1993 they rided: Volkswagen 2 (Ralf), Polo (Florian), Audi 80 >(Fritz Hilpert). All were dark blue (do you remember JoCa?). This just >for non-serious info. A little correction: offcourse Volkswagen 2 means Volkswagen Golf 2 and the fourth guy, Henning Schmitz was in the car together with Fritz Hilpert. Dolf. ---- HACOM BBS, Amersfoort, The Netherlands. +31-33-803610/801882/806321. !!! 6 High Speed Nodes, over 10 GIEG of files. FREE USENET/INTERNET/ILINK/WEB/PCB Europe's Software distributing point. Home for MUSTANG Products (Qmodem/Wcat) Support BBS for many software-authors. Datacomm. automation & consulting. ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Fri, 24 Jun 94 04:00:16 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #356 Kraftwerk Digest Fri, 24 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 356 Today's Topics: Kraftwerk (obviously!) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 22 Jun 94 21:29:12 -0500 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk (obviously!) To: kraftwerk Really-From: Sebastien.Boisvert@uworld.mtlnet.org (Sebastien Boisvert) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hello everybody, Can ANYONE send me the mail adress to SUBSCRIBE to the list again please? I only remember the adress to POST a message and I'm not even sure this mail will get through the list. You see, I changed my Internet adress and it occured few problems. Thank you. B. P.S. Hey Lars, were you eaten by genetics bacterials? ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sun, 26 Jun 94 04:00:10 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #357 Kraftwerk Digest Sun, 26 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 357 Today's Topics: Why do U.S. CD pressings suck ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 25 Jun 94 22:43:46 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Why do U.S. CD pressings suck ? To: kraftwerk Really-From: SubrataB@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu O.K. I've just gotten a copy of the German "Electric Cafe". And, as usual, it sounds slightly better than the U.S. version. I've noticed this on MM, CW so far..(No difference w/ "The Mix"), and I suspect that it's because of the WCI pre CD mastering, but am not sure..anyone have any ideas/similar experiences ? ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 04:00:12 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #358 Kraftwerk Digest Mon, 27 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 358 Today's Topics: Electric Music/UK Kraftwerk meet Tour de France CD Why do U.S. CD pressings suck ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 15:52:11 +0100 (BST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Electric Music/UK Kraftwerk meet To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard Ingram Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi ! Just got Esparanto, its great, was this going to be the next official Kraftwerk release ? I mean it sounds just like them ! Why did Kraftwerk split ? Are they all still friends ? The best tracks must be Information, Overdrive and Esparanto ! Tracks 2 and 3 are not to hot but the rest - yeah !! Oh yes if anyone is interested I scanned in the report about the UK Kraftwerk meet from last months Sound On Sound mag, drop me a mail if interested ! Bye, Rich. +----------------------+-------------------------------------------------------+ | ---- --- | The Crows Maintain, A Single Crow Could Destroy | | / / / | Heaven, That Is Doubtless, But Doesn't Move Heaven, | | / ANGERINE /__/ REAM | For, Heaven Implies Precisely: Impossibility Of Crows | | | +----------------+------------------------+ | To Dream Is To Live | Franz Kafka | Richard Ingram | rji@inmos.co.uk | +----------------------+-------------+----------------+------------------------+ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 09:35:08 -0400 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Tour de France CD To: kraftwerk Really-From: jlara@world.std.com (John A Lara) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Was the Tour de France single (or an album with that cut on it) put out on CD? jl John Lara INTERNET: jlara@world.std.com COMPUSERVE: >INTERNET:jlara@world.std.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 15:45:47 +0100 (BST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Why do U.S. CD pressings suck ? To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard Ingram Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Really-From: SubrataB@aol.com > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > O.K. I've just gotten a copy of the German "Electric Cafe". And, as usual, it > sounds slightly better than the U.S. version. I've noticed this on MM, CW so > far..(No difference w/ "The Mix"), and I suspect that it's because of the WCI > pre CD mastering, but am not sure..anyone have any ideas/similar experiences > ? Hi ! Yes I got Kraftwerk The Model (IMPORT US) Capitol/EMI, and the sound sucks, sounds as though they recorded loads of tape hiss all the way through. I think it may be the CD itself thats faulty as it does it in three diff CD players. Anyone else had this experience with this CD ?? Rich. ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Tue, 28 Jun 94 04:00:15 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #359 Kraftwerk Digest Tue, 28 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 359 Today's Topics: Mo-Fi releases ? Radioactivity (2 msgs) Tour de France CD (2 msgs) Why do U.S. CD pressings suck ? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 11:14:16 -0400 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Mo-Fi releases ? To: kraftwerk Really-From: prabhu@cs.umass.edu (Rajesh Prabhu) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi folks, All this talk about substandard CD-releases ( at least here in the US ) has gotten me to ask this question - anyone know if the Mobile Fidelity Labs people are/would be interested in reissuing any of the old Kraftwerk stuff on Ultradisc ? (Anybody from MoFi on this list ? :-) ) "Radioactivity", "Autobahn" or "The Man-Machine" could all be good candidates for such a release, IMO. I have gone through their list of impending issues, and there's no Kraftwerk in there :-( Maybe we could all send e-mail to them suggesting the above .... -- Rajesh ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 03:35:39 PDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Radioactivity To: kraftwerk Really-From: swatch@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Brian Plume) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi there. I was just wondering if anyone knows where I can get the CD SINGLE version Radioactivity from "The Mix". I remember seeing it in a record store about a year ago, and thinking to myself, "I'll come back in a week to pick it up." NO SUCH LUCK. Someone got to it before me. I have it on Vinyl already, but I want to add to my CD collektion a bit. hehehe Preferably a Mail Order place that takes a credit card of some sort. I am also looking for other Kraftwerk Cds and rare vinyl if possible. Thanks for reading. Brian ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 15:07:25 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Radioactivity To: kraftwerk Really-From: David_Igra@public.se (David Igra) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Talking about records, does anybody know WHEN this new record D-Werk is being released? -- SINDBAD Information - Public dial up mail & news service, Sweden ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 11:35:26 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Tour de France CD To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: jlara@world.std.com (John A Lara) > Was the Tour de France single (or an album with that cut on it) put out on CD? Well, how many times we've seen this question ??? We should have a FAQ file. Any volunteers? The answer: you can dig it out from the back issues files. Available in one German compilation CD, the 7" remix only. Jose ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jun 94 12:59:25 MESZ From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Tour de France CD To: kraftwerk Really-From: Arnulf Striepecke Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > From kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Mon Jun 27 11:54 MES 1994 > Received: from cs.uwp.edu by dyn.geo.uni-bonn.de with SMTP > (16.6/16.2) id AA17323; Mon, 27 Jun 94 11:54:16 +0200 > Return-Path: > Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA24570 > (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 27 Jun 1994 04:33:28 -0500 > Message-Id: <199406270933.AA24570@cs.uwp.edu> > Received: from CCUAB1 (ccuab1.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA24553 > (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 27 Jun 1994 04:33:23 -0500 > Received: from ctisun1.uab.es by cc.uab.es (PMDF V4.2-15 #2461) id > <01HE1A6MYR8G9LXUZR@cc.uab.es>; Mon, 27 Jun 1994 11:32:59 GMT+0200 > Received: by ctisun1.uab.es (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00418; Mon, > 27 Jun 94 11:35:26 +0100 > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 11:35:26 +0100 > From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (kraftwerk mailing list) > Sender: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu > To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu > Errors-To: kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Subject: Re: Tour de France CD > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > Status: RO > > Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > > Really-From: jlara@world.std.com (John A Lara) > > > Was the Tour de France single (or an album with that cut on it) put out on CD? > > > Well, how many times we've seen this question ??? > > We should have a FAQ file. Any volunteers? > > The answer: you can dig it out from the back issues files. Available in one > German compilation CD, the 7" remix only. > > Jose > -- ---------------------------------------------------------- Arnulf Striepecke Institute for Geodynamics Buschstrasse 4 Nussallee 8 53113 Bonn 53115 Bonn Voice: (49) 228 221573 (49) 228 73-7449 e-mail: Arnulf@geo.uni-bonn.de Germany ---------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 11:33:10 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Why do U.S. CD pressings suck ? To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: Richard Ingram > Yes I got Kraftwerk The Model (IMPORT US) Capitol/EMI, and the sound sucks, > sounds as though they recorded loads of tape hiss all the way through. I think the reason is they've used the actual vinyl releases for this CD! The sound sucks. It's not faulty, just it's a very bad quality CD. Jose ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Wed, 29 Jun 94 04:00:15 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #360 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 29 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 360 Today's Topics: Description Kraftwerk 1 CD Description of Kraftwerk 2 CD Mo-Fi releases ? Something else about Tour de France (2 msgs) unsubscribe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 23:55:13 +0200 (MET DST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Description Kraftwerk 1 CD To: kraftwerk Really-From: bombuzal Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Performer : Kraftwerk Title : Kraftwerk 1 Description : First official Kraftwerk Album Sound Quality : 8 out of 10. Taken from LP, but quite good quality. Duration : about 40 minutes No. of Tracks : 4 Label : Germanophon 941001 Released : 1994 Medium : CD Cover : Like the original Kraftwerk 1. With red and white traffic cone on front, back on on CD. Booklet contains the inside information of the original Fold Out Cover. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Track Information : 1 - Ruckzuck 7:47 2 - Stratovarius 12:10 3 - Megaherz 9:30 4 - Vom Himmel Hoch 10:12 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 23:55:51 +0200 (MET DST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Description of Kraftwerk 2 CD To: kraftwerk Really-From: bombuzal Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Performer : Kraftwerk Title : Kraftwerk 2 Description : Second official Kraftwerk Album Sound Quality : 8 out of 10. Taken from LP, but quite good quality. Duration : about 44 minutes No. of Tracks : 8 Label : Germanophon 941002 Released : 1994 Medium : CD Cover : Like the original Kraftwerk 2. With green and white traffic cone on front, back on on CD. Booklet contains the inside information of the original Fold Out Cover. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Track Information : 1 - Klingklang 17:36 2 - Atem 2:57 3 - Strom 3:52 4 - Spule 4 5:20 5 - Wellenklange 9:40 6 - Harmonika 3:17 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 11:54:09 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Mo-Fi releases ? To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: prabhu@cs.umass.edu (Rajesh Prabhu) Nice to see mail from you, Rajesh. > All this talk about substandard CD-releases ( at least here in the US ) has > gotten me to ask this question - anyone know if the Mobile Fidelity Labs people > are/would be interested in reissuing any of the old Kraftwerk stuff on Ultradisc ? It could be interesting. > Maybe we could all send e-mail to them suggesting the above .... Why not? What's the address? Jose ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jun 94 11:43:29 +0200 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Something else about Tour de France To: kraftwerk Really-From: adkoning@hvsag01.att.com (Andre A M De Koning +31 35 87 4927) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Maybe someone on this list can answer this question about TDF (anyway, it's a change from all the CD availability requests ;-) ): Why do the vocals sound as though they used their headset-microphones instead of 'proper' studio equipment? They would know they were making a definitive recording when they pressed the 'RECORD' button... Just curious. Thanks for any info (or just tell me to get 'the book', if it's in there: just another reason to go out and get it 'real soon now'). , -- Andre de Koning ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 13:09:48 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Something else about Tour de France To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@ctisun1.uab.es (Jose Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: adkoning@hvsag01.att.com (Andre A M De Koning +31 35 87 4927) > > Why do the vocals sound as though they used their headset-microphones > instead of 'proper' studio equipment? No idea, but the German version, with lyrics in German, sounds even much rougher, sounds as recorded live, without caring about obtaining studio sound. Nice to see a different question about Tour de France :) Jose ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 11:40:16 -0300 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: unsubscribe To: kraftwerk Really-From: rwilson@nbnet.nb.ca (Rob Wilson) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu unsubscribe ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Thu, 30 Jun 94 04:00:13 CDT From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #361 Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 30 Jun 94 Volume 1 : Issue 361 Today's Topics: Gesamtkunst(Kraft)werk (2 msgs) Kraftwerk videos? Something else about Tour de France So where can I get KW 1/2 on CD? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Jun 94 21:59:49 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Gesamtkunst(Kraft)werk To: kraftwerk Really-From: ricjoly@telegraph.com (Richard Joly) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi all, I also wish Kraftwerk old material got rereleased. I wish for a box set of all lps, in a manner similar to the Bowie reissue or even better the special art-box reissue of Yoko Ono, put out by Ryko Disk. The Ono special edition comes in this great metal case (such as used by professional photographers) made, I think, of aluminium. Included is a small book, and a edition of a special sculpture made for this ONObox. You can get the CDs box for about 65 $ or the special edition metal case with art-work for about 250$. I would love to have something similar for Kraftwerk, compiling material all the way back to Organisation, and stretching into the present with let's say a CD-rom of video and/or Ralf/Florian in the studio or on the road byking. I wonder if we could get Ryko and/or KlingKlang interested in releasing such a _catalogue raisonne- for Kraftwerk. When I see people like Rod Stewart getting box-set of more than 10 cds out on the market, I feel it's a bit unfair that Krafwerk is not afforded at least equal opportunity at re-packaging their old material. Just some thoughts ! Richard ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 23:56:49 -0700 (PDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Gesamtkunst(Kraft)werk To: kraftwerk Really-From: cspot@netcom.com (Chris.Hilker) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >Really-From: ricjoly@telegraph.com (Richard Joly) > >I wonder if we could get Ryko and/or KlingKlang interested in releasing >such a _catalogue raisonne- for Kraftwerk. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Klingklang were very interested in such a project and are waiting for the licenses for all their releases to expire before actually going through with it. C. -- Channel ** cspot/chris [cspot@netcom.com] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 11:40:06 -0700 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk videos? To: kraftwerk Really-From: rex@ece.ucdavis.edu (Rex Frobenius) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hello- I am just curious. Are there any kKarraftwerk bvidoweo compilations available. I thisnk thsuch a reallease would be very successful, Karaftwerk videos would probably be fairly popular, also vidoeos of Kraftwerd in concert would be interesting, especially for those of kus who were aniticipateing seeing them on their lat st tour.? Thank you . ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jun 94 12:03:53 EET DST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Something else about Tour de France To: kraftwerk Really-From: jhsa@ee.tut.fi (Salmij{rvi Janne) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Why do the vocals sound as though they used their headset-microphones > > instead of 'proper' studio equipment? > > No idea, but the German version, with lyrics in German, sounds even > much rougher, sounds as recorded live, without caring about obtaining > studio sound. The book (the pascal bussy one) says something like this about tour de france vocals. They were recorded in their studios stairway (I suppose it could be the same one where the band is standing on man machine pictures) after ralf (or was it florian, I never remember, anyway the one who cycles a lot) had run the stairs up and down to sound out of breath. > Nice to see a different question about Tour de France :) Nice indeed :) Janne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jun 94 11:55:54 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: So where can I get KW 1/2 on CD? To: kraftwerk Really-From: eric@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu (Eric J. Hansen) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Folks, All this talk about Kraftwerk 1 & 2 being released on CD is making me itchy to get it. I have Exceller 8 on vinyl, so I've heard some of the tracks, but I'd love to have it on CD. Is this only available as some bizarre small pressing limited-time only CD offer? Or, can I buy it at Sam Goody in any U.S. mall? - Eric *---------------------------------------------------------------------* | Eric J. Hansen .................... eric@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu | | Princeton Transportation Consulting Group, Inc. .... Burlington, MA | *---------------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ******************************