Date: Wed, 2 Feb 94 04:00:14 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #255 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 2 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 255 Today's Topics: Esperanto tunes in BloodNet? The Mix ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 22:44:20 -500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Esperanto tunes in BloodNet? To: kraftwerk Really-From: Gabriel Yedid Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I recently lent some friends of mine my copy of _Esperanto_. They are interested in KW/EM/Clock DVA type techno, so I thought that they would like this. Today one of them (they're brothers) told me that he had already heard some songs from the album--in the gothic cyberpunk computer game BloodNet. He said he couldn't remember exactly what tracks he heard, but that, with the exception of the removal of vocals and vocoder effects, all the music was as it was on the album. Are there any owners of BloodNet on the list who can confirm this? And does Herr Karl know about this? Gabe P.S. Where can I order a copy of Clock DVA's _Sign_ and _Man-Amplified_ for a reasonable price? They're almost impossible to find in Montreal. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 01 Feb 1994 09:06:31 -0500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: The Mix To: kraftwerk Really-From: EEID@ALBION.bitnet Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu John B. Fleming asked: >Can anyone tell me what kind of stuff is on Kraftwerk's latest mix >album. I know it's not all that new anymore, but I'm interested to >know what's on it... Thanks. If memory serves (ha!), I believe you'll find these tracks: The Robots Computer Love Pocket Calculator Dentaku Autobahn Radioactivity Trans-Europe Express Metal on Metal Abzug Home Computer Music Non Stop All of these have been remixed and updated for the 1991 (?) release. Ralf and Florian are still around, but the others have been replaced (their names escape me at the moment). If you want much more complete info, check out Dave Datta's discography. You can get it through anonymous ftp at ftp.uwp.edu. Go to the /pub/music/artists/k/kraftwerk and request the file "discog". Hope this helps! (*------------------+---------------------------------*) (* Erik Eid | EEID@ALBION.BITNET *) (* 305 Twin Towers +---------------------------------*) (* Albion College | Computational Math major at a *) (* Albion, MI 49224 | liberal arts college- go figure *) (*------------------+---------------------------------*) ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Thu, 3 Feb 94 04:00:17 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #256 Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 3 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 256 Today's Topics: ... Looking-glass (2 msgs) Where are they now? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 02 Feb 94 19:57:20 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: ... To: kraftwerk Really-From: justdie@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu subscribe justdie@aol.com to kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu in digest mode ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Feb 94 14:01:43 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Looking-glass To: kraftwerk Really-From: Tomas Eriksson Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Has anyone out there heard anything about the release of an album called "Kraftwerk Through The Looking-glass" (or something very similar), in which various former-Yugoslavian bands (including Laibach and Borghesia) perform their versions of KW classics? I heard a whisper about it a month or so ago. A review has evidently been printed in a British mag, so chances are that it is more than a rumour. I'd also like to inform the unknowing about a CD released by an obscure record- company called Smurf records. It's called "The Remix (Werked Out)"(smurfcd92 I think...). The CD contains about 17 tracks, mostly DJ-remixes and medleys. But the really interesting item is a demo-version of "Techno Pop". It sounds authentic enough, as the lyrics are sung with a slightly different intonation, and it is with a large degree of certainty Ralf who does the singing. Anyway, it is absolutely brilliant! It nearly brought tears to my eyes the first time I heard it. I don't know in which country the record-company is situated, but I suspect that the CD is rather difficult to get by in the States. Sadly enough I haven't got a mail-order address, so I can only wish everyone the best of luck in finding what must be a must-have. As this is my first letter to this mailing-list I'd just as well take the opportunity to introduce myself. My name is Tomas Eriksson and I'm studying at the Royal Institute of Technology (Stockholm, Sweden) for a Master's degree in engineering physics. I've been listening to KW for about 8-9 years, and they are, in my opinion, the greatest musical geniuses of our time. Other bands/artists I like include: Gary Numan, Skinny Puppy, Elektric Music, Frontline Assembly, Einstuerzende Neubauten, Front 242, S.P.O.C.K (hardly known outside Sweden, maybe Germany), Depeche Mode, D.A.F., Yazoo... (Well, you get the picture). (I'd just as well do a little advertising for S.P.O.C.K, a very good Swedish band who plays a very appealing kind of simple, electronic pop with rather funny lyrics about space in general and Star Trek in particular. I've heard that they'll be playing at some sort of Star Trek convention somewhere in the U.S. So if you're a fan of Star Trek (which, I might add, I am not) or just like electronic pop like it was made in the early eighties, with analogue synthesizers and great melodies (that's me!), you should check them out. I can provide a mail-order address if anyone is interested.) Hear you all! /Tomas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 14:20:37 +0000 (GMT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Looking-glass To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard W Rackham Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Has anyone out there heard anything about the release of an album called > "Kraftwerk Through The Looking-glass" (or something very similar), in which > various former-Yugoslavian bands (including Laibach and Borghesia) perform > their versions of KW classics? I heard a whisper about it a month or so ago. > A review has evidently been printed in a British mag, so chances are that it > is more than a rumour. The album hasn't been released by Mute yet, and there is no known release date in the UK. I've been meaning to get in touch with Mute regarding that and some other releases of theirs. Promo copies obviously exist (how did the UK music press review it if there weren't any), although I haven't seen any for sale. On a side-note, does anyone know of any recording of the Balanescu Quartet playing Sex Object ? They apparantly played it live (around the time Posessed came out). Richard (cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Feb 1994 14:05:22 -0500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Where are they now? To: kraftwerk Really-From: EEID@ALBION.bitnet Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Seeing the names Elektric Music and Clock DVA thrown around makes me wonder just who all are in these groups and where the members of Kraftwerk have gone to... I suppose I could download every last bio file through ftp, but if any of you have a quick summary of what Kraftwerk member has gone where, I'd appreciate it if you could post it on the list. Thanks much! (*------------------+---------------------------------*) (* Erik Eid | EEID@ALBION.BITNET *) (* 305 Twin Towers +---------------------------------*) (* Albion College | Computational Math major at a *) (* Albion, MI 49224 | liberal arts college- go figure *) (*------------------+---------------------------------*) ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Fri, 4 Feb 94 04:00:15 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #257 Kraftwerk Digest Fri, 4 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 257 Today's Topics: S.P.O.C.K (2 msgs) Spacelab ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 12:07:12 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: S.P.O.C.K To: kraftwerk Really-From: enok@lysator.liu.se Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I agree that SPOCK writes funny lyrics, but if you want to check out a real good Swedish group, go and get Spacelab (no, not Spicelab). They are really wonderful! It's mostly ambient but there are some very nice "kraftwerkish" tracks. The "Is there life in universe?" maxi even contains a "kling-klang r remix". /Oskar Enoksson ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 15:40:10 +0100 (MET) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: S.P.O.C.K To: kraftwerk Really-From: Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Really-From: enok@lysator.liu.se > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > I agree that SPOCK writes funny lyrics, but if you want to check out a real > good Swedish group, go and get Spacelab (no, not Spicelab). They are really > wonderful! It's mostly ambient but there are some very nice "kraftwerkish" > tracks. The "Is there life in universe?" maxi even contains a "kling-klang r > remix". > /Oskar Enoksson > Spacelab is indeed a very interesting group, they also appear on two collection albums from Telegram records, on one of those is a song called Artificial Intelligence which is a perfect mix between Man-Machine and Computer World. /anders w -- *************************************************************************** * Anders Wilhelm * em: dvlawm@cs.umu.se * "I program my Home-computer, * * Umea University * trafo@unitech.se * feel myself into the future" * * Sweden * * -Florian Schneider, 1981 * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 11:50:21 -0700 (MST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Spacelab To: kraftwerk Really-From: Lazlo Nibble Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > They are really wonderful! It's mostly ambient but there are some very > nice "kraftwerkish" tracks. The "Is there life in universe?" maxi even > contains a "kling-klang r remix". I've got (and have thoroughly enjoyed) Space Is Big Man Is Small but Spacelab's other material is impossible to find around here. If anyone has any suggestions for ordering it, I'd appreciate hearing about it. -- Lazlo (lazlo@unm.edu) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ come a ti yi yippie yippie ay yippie ay, come a ti yi yippie yippie ay ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sat, 5 Feb 94 04:00:16 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #258 Kraftwerk Digest Sat, 5 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 258 Today's Topics: Looking-glass REMOVE ME (4 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 04 Feb 94 18:24:41 +0900 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Looking-glass To: kraftwerk Really-From: Ogura Yoshito Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi. (This is my first mail.) >I've been listening to KW for about 8-9 years, and they are, in my opinion, It is my first experience to listen to The Man Machine about 9 years ago. >Depeche Mode, D.A.F., Yazoo... (Well, you get the picture). I love D.A.F. What are they doing? Is there any list about D.A.F., Depeche Mode and so on? >(I'd just as well do a little advertising for S.P.O.C.K, a very good Swedish I've never heard because I live in the country, maybe. > I can provide a mail-order address if anyone is interested.) Thank you. Give me the address, please. ogura@ndc.ngsk.sony.co.jp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 09:49:48 -0500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: REMOVE ME To: kraftwerk Really-From: Thomas C Butcher Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Please remove me from the list. I've sent mail to the request address with no avail. Tom butcher tb303+@cmu.edu tb37+@andrew.cmu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 94 10:11:11 -0500 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: REMOVE ME To: kraftwerk Really-From: plmoses@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu (Paul L. Moses) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I like this list but lately there have been A LOT of "subscribe me" messages. I usually don't care but, geeez people THERE IS A DIFFERENT ADDRESS FOR THIS. ONE THAT DOESN'T GO TO THE WHOLE LIST!!! I am doing this rather than something like mail-bombing the individual culprits. (That I find very mean-spirited and childish anyway.) SO: USE THE RIGHT ADDRESS, FOLX!!! Paul ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 12:32:41 -0500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: REMOVE ME To: kraftwerk Really-From: Thomas C Butcher Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > messages. I usually don't care but, geeez people THERE IS A DIFFERENT > ADDRESS FOR THIS. ONE THAT DOESN'T GO TO THE WHOLE LIST!!! Oh gee is that why there's this at the top of each message I get? "Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu" Funny thing is, I've sent lots of mail to this address and nothing has happened. That's why I'm posting here. Maybe someone will actually do it one of these days. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 20:09:58 +0100 (MET) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: REMOVE ME To: kraftwerk Really-From: linstee@dutecaj.et.tudelft.nl (Erik van Linstee) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Really-From: Thomas C Butcher > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Please remove me from the list. I've sent mail to the request address > with no avail. I sympathise with you, but sending this to the list is not likely to help. None of us here on the list have any control over it other than what we send to it. Please be patient, it's the only thing you can do. Erik ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 04:00:16 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #259 Kraftwerk Digest Mon, 7 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 259 Today's Topics: Dave Datta is gone for awhile... (fwd) Kraftwerk on drugs? (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 22:54:22 -500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Dave Datta is gone for awhile... (fwd) To: kraftwerk Really-From: Gabriel Yedid Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 16:01:01 -0800 (PST) From: tadream mailing list To: tadream@cs.uwp.edu Subject: Dave Datta is gone for awhile... Really-From: Elana Beach Requests for add/removal from this list to tadream-request@cs.uwp.edu Pholks, PLEASE repost this on the other Datta-maintained lists... I don't know what they all are... ANYWAY... Dave Datta is on vacation from the net until further notice. It's a combination of email burnout and having to deal with a local problem in his neighborhood... someone wants to create a ROCK QUARRY practically next to his house! (There goes the neighborhood!) His family and neighbors are involved in a big fight to keep the quarry from even starting... it's taking a lot of his time and energy, so the net has to take a backseat for awhile. We do not know when he will come back. I had to CALL him to find this out. Gee whiz, Dave, give us a *warning* next time, will ya??? Don't leave us wondering... :-) -Elana ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 01:36:04 -0600 (CST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk on drugs? To: kraftwerk Really-From: umcordes@cc.umanitoba.ca Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu A couple of friends of mine listened to a couple of my kw albums and noted that the songs must have been written while kw were on some type of illegal substance. I know that so much of today's "techno" is mixed in with the drug scene, but is/was kw? (Being a non-drug-abusing guy, I like to think that they are clean) Thanks! (I know it's kind of an odd question...) -- @ University Of Manitoba, Canada "Thank you for that great round of indifference" -- Bill Needle, SCTV *** FOR SALE: Drum set, CDs, tapes, software, misc stuff - Email for info *** ============================================================================= ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 08:30:18 +0000 (GMT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk on drugs? To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard W Rackham Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > A couple of friends of mine listened to a couple of my kw albums and noted > that the songs must have been written while kw were on some type of > illegal substance. > > I know that so much of today's "techno" is mixed in with the drug scene, > but is/was kw? (Being a non-drug-abusing guy, I like to think that they > are clean) I can't comment on whether they are clean now, or when they wrote their modern pieces, but the book "Man, Machine & Music" by Pascal Bussey (a biography of Kraftwerk), it claims that Ralf and Florian took LSD in the late '60s. I have recently received a copy of Kraftwerk 2, and I reckon that they must have been on something to make that. I don't think anything from Autobahn onwards sounds as if they were taking drugs. Richard (cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk) ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 04:00:15 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #260 Kraftwerk Digest Tue, 8 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 260 Today's Topics: Dave Datta is off the net for a while drugs Kraftwerk Digest V1 #259 Kraftwerk on drugs? (2 msgs) KW & drugs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 17:16:12 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Dave Datta is off the net for a while To: kraftwerk Really-From: "Mike J. Brown" Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 16:01:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Dave Datta is gone for awhile... Really-From: Elana Beach Dave Datta is on vacation from the net until further notice. It's a combination of email burnout and having to deal with a local problem in his neighborhood... someone wants to create a ROCK QUARRY practically next to his house! (There goes the neighborhood!) His family and neighbors are involved in a big fight to keep the quarry from even starting... it's taking a lot of his time and energy, so the net has to take a backseat for awhile. We do not know when he will come back. I had to CALL him to find this out. Gee whiz, Dave, give us a *warning* next time, will ya??? Don't leave us wondering... :-) -Elana ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 11:56:34 UTC+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: drugs To: kraftwerk Really-From: Marcos Faundez Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I think they took drugs in Kraftwerk1 and Kraftwerk2, but not after this. I also think it's impossible to know if someone takes drugs listening to his music. (See live in Pompeii of Pink Floyd: the music is all right, but if you see the film you can chek that they took drugs). Greetings from Barcelona MARCOS ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 08:37:38 -0600 (CST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #259 To: kraftwerk Really-From: "Dana Gray" Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Someone had posted a name of a Swedish band that was very KW like. Could you send me the name of that band again? Thanks. In message Mon, 7 Feb 94 04:00:16 CST, kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu writes: > > Kraftwerk Digest Mon, 7 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 259 > > Today's Topics: > Dave Datta is gone for awhile... (fwd) > Kraftwerk on drugs? (2 msgs) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 22:54:22 -500 (EST) > From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) > Subject: Dave Datta is gone for awhile... (fwd) > To: kraftwerk > > Really-From: Gabriel Yedid > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 16:01:01 -0800 (PST) > From: tadream mailing list > To: tadream@cs.uwp.edu > Subject: Dave Datta is gone for awhile... > > Really-From: Elana Beach > Requests for add/removal from this list to tadream-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Pholks, PLEASE repost this on the other Datta-maintained lists... I > don't know what they all are... > > ANYWAY... > > Dave Datta is on vacation from the net until further notice. It's a > combination of email burnout and having to deal with a local problem in > his neighborhood... someone wants to create a ROCK QUARRY practically > next to his house! (There goes the neighborhood!) His family and > neighbors are involved in a big fight to keep the quarry from even > starting... it's taking a lot of his time and energy, so the net has to > take a backseat for awhile. We do not know when he will come back. > > I had to CALL him to find this out. > Gee whiz, Dave, give us a *warning* next time, will ya??? Don't leave us > wondering... :-) > > -Elana > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 01:36:04 -0600 (CST) > From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) > Subject: Kraftwerk on drugs? > To: kraftwerk > > Really-From: umcordes@cc.umanitoba.ca > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > A couple of friends of mine listened to a couple of my kw albums and noted > that the songs must have been written while kw were on some type of > illegal substance. > > I know that so much of today's "techno" is mixed in with the drug scene, > but is/was kw? (Being a non-drug-abusing guy, I like to think that they > are clean) > > Thanks! (I know it's kind of an odd question...) > > -- > @ University Of Manitoba, Canada > "Thank you for that great round of indifference" -- Bill Needle, SCTV > *** FOR SALE: Drum set, CDs, tapes, software, misc stuff - Email for info > *** > ========================================================================= > ==== > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 08:30:18 +0000 (GMT) > From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) > Subject: Kraftwerk on drugs? > To: kraftwerk > > Really-From: Richard W Rackham > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > >> A couple of friends of mine listened to a couple of my kw albums and >> noted that the songs must have been written while kw were on some type >> of illegal substance. >> >> I know that so much of today's "techno" is mixed in with the drug >> scene, but is/was kw? (Being a non-drug-abusing guy, I like to think >> that they are clean) >> > > I can't comment on whether they are clean now, or when they wrote their > modern pieces, but the book "Man, Machine & Music" by Pascal Bussey (a > biography of Kraftwerk), it claims that Ralf and Florian took LSD in the > late '60s. > I have recently received a copy of Kraftwerk 2, and I reckon that they > must have been on something to make that. I don't think anything from > Autobahn onwards sounds as if they were taking drugs. > > Richard (cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk) > > ------------------------------ > > End of Kraftwerk Digest > ****************************** > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > To reply to the messages in this list, mail to kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu > > Administrative questions to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > All of the opinions in this digest belong to the respective authors and > do not necessarily agree with those of Datta Production and Development. > Datta Production and Development is not affiliated with University of > Wisconsin-Parkside. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 94 18:42:37 +0900 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk on drugs? To: kraftwerk Really-From: Ogura Yoshito Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >Really-From: Richard W Rackham >Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > >> A couple of friends of mine listened to a couple of my kw albums and noted >> that the songs must have been written while kw were on some type of >> illegal substance. >> >> I know that so much of today's "techno" is mixed in with the drug scene, >> but is/was kw? (Being a non-drug-abusing guy, I like to think that they >> are clean) I do not think that KW is today's "techno". >I can't comment on whether they are clean now, or when they wrote their modern >pieces, but the book "Man, Machine & Music" by Pascal Bussey (a biography of >Kraftwerk), it claims that Ralf and Florian took LSD in the late '60s. I do not think that it is illegal, in those days. Anyway, I do not care because their music is suitable for me. And I'm high without any drug, ehe. BTW, some kinds of illegal substance are not so bad as a tobacco. ogura@ndc.ngsk.sony.co.jp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Feb 1994 20:52:37 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk on drugs? To: kraftwerk Really-From: zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I've listened to and composed a lot of music where I *knew* whether or not drugs had an influence (either directly or indirectly). Upon listening to all of KW's music post Autobahn, my guess is that they do not drugs to any great degree (and I would guess that they certainly never have drug influenced "jams" to create their music). Perhaps the pre-Autobahn stuff? Seems like the kind of stuff that LSD might enhance the listening of. f-erenc end#--------------------------------------------------------------------------* |This message was sent from MATRIX ARTS BBS (intacc) voice:(416)-364-1421 | |The views expressed in this posting are those of the individual author only. | #-----------------------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Feb 94 10:48:55 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: KW & drugs To: kraftwerk Really-From: eric@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu (Eric J. Hansen) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Has anyone got the original LP of Ralf & Florian? There is a photo of the two on the backside of the album sleeve where they both really look spaced... Also, it would appear that Florian is holding something resembing a cigarette - or is it?! :-) If they spent much time in this "room" (pictured in the photo), then they really must have been "out of their gourds" Eric *---------------------------------------------------------------------* | Eric J. Hansen .................... eric@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu | | Princeton Transportation Consulting Group, Inc. .... Burlington, MA | *---------------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Wed, 9 Feb 94 04:00:16 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #261 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 9 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 261 Today's Topics: Drugs ? (2 msgs) Electrik Music Tour (2 msgs) first radio play of Kraftwerk (2 msgs) Kraftwerk 1,2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 4:59:04 GMT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Drugs ? To: kraftwerk Really-From: olafugun@rhi.hi.is (Olafur Gunnlaugsson) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Eric J. Hansen wrote: >Has anyone got the original LP of Ralf & Florian? There is a photo >of the two on the backside of the album sleeve where they both really >look spaced... Also, it would appear that Florian is holding something >resembing a cigarette - or is it?! :-) If they spent much time in this >"room" (pictured in the photo), then they really must have been "out >of their gourds" I have that LP, original pressing too (no too old to.... jokes please). They do not look "spaced" to me, and the object in Hu"tter's hand is an ordinary machine made cigarette. And that "room" is the original Kraftwerk studio, later renamed to Kling Klang. The techno twins are better known for being golf fanatics, than for their abuse of active substances 'Oli olafugun@rhi.hi.is -- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 7:15:17 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Drugs ? To: kraftwerk Really-From: John C Avery II Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: olafugun@rhi.hi.is (Olafur Gunnlaugsson) > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Eric J. Hansen wrote: > > >Has anyone got the original LP of Ralf & Florian? There is a photo > >of the two on the backside of the album sleeve where they both really > >look spaced... Also, it would appear that Florian is holding something > >resembing a cigarette - or is it?! :-) If they spent much time in this > >"room" (pictured in the photo), then they really must have been "out > >of their gourds" > > I have that LP, original pressing too (no too old to.... jokes please). > > They do not look "spaced" to me, and the object in Hu"tter's hand is an > ordinary machine made cigarette. > > And that "room" is the original Kraftwerk studio, later renamed to Kling > Klang. > > The techno twins are better known for being golf fanatics, than for their > abuse of active substances > > 'Oli olafugun@rhi.hi.is > > -- > Will someone PLEASE unsubscribe me from this group???? I've sent mail to all the proper parties, (kraftwerk-request, tadream-request) and have yet to stop receiving. Thanks. PS: Anyone have a 12" copy of "Numbers" that they want to get rid of???? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------This message was sent by: John C Avery II from Rutgers University, Newark, NJ E-mail: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 94 14:27:23 MET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Electrik Music Tour To: kraftwerk Really-From: Lars Nellemann Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi It seems that Electrik Music is touring in Europe - they're playing in Copenhagen 7th May 1994 - and I've already bought the tickets. Lars -- ***************************************** * Lars Nellemann * * University of Copenhagen * * Copenhagen, Denmark * * nelleman@biobase.aau.dk * * FAX: +45 3532 6120 * ***************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 15:02:37 +0100 (MET) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Electrik Music Tour To: kraftwerk Really-From: Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Really-From: Lars Nellemann > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Hi > > It seems that Electrik Music is touring in Europe - they're playing in > Copenhagen 7th May 1994 - and I've already bought the tickets. > > Lars > -- Wow! Has anyone got any more information on their tour schedule?? Any new material coming up? /anders -- *************************************************************************** * Anders Wilhelm * em: dvlawm@cs.umu.se * "I program my Home-computer, * * Umea University * trafo@unitech.se * feel myself into the future" * * Sweden * * -Florian Schneider, 1981 * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 94 17:12:36 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: first radio play of Kraftwerk To: kraftwerk Really-From: saxtherapy@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hello fellow Kraftwerk fans! I thought I would post a some of my early experiences with Kraftwerk music. I first heard Kraftwerk in 1971 and played their import albums regularly on my nightly radio show over WXFM-FM 50,000 watt FM station in Chicago. I believe I was probably the first DJ in the US to play their music on the air. "Ruck Zuck" from the first album would always light up the phone lines and was very popular with my listeners. Promo man from Mercury Records brought me pre-release copy of "Autobahn" and I tracked the whole side. Phone lines went crazy. I know for sure that was the first U.S. airplay of "Autobahn." I played a lot of other progressive German music on my shows. Neu's first album used to get a lot of airplay. Other audience favorites of the time included Can "Halleluja" from "Tago Mago", Guru Guru "Kan-guru", Faust, Lucifer's Friend (at a couple of the bigger record stores, Lucifer's Friend used to outsell Moody Blues, Led Zepp...), Amon Duul II, Scorpions........BTW does anyone know if the publication "Euro-Rock" that used to be put out by Archie Patterson is still around? If so, do they have an e-mail address? --Saul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Feb 94 18:14:30 CST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: first radio play of Kraftwerk To: kraftwerk Really-From: woody Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Archie Patterson is still alive and well. He doesn't have an e-mail address, but can be reached via phone at (503) 281-0247 in Portland. That's his fax number, too. He's still the best source for early european electronic music. Woody ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 10:32:42 -0500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk 1,2 To: kraftwerk Really-From: Thomas C Butcher Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu What are Kraftwerk 1 and Kraftwerk 2? I've never heard of these before. ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Thu, 10 Feb 94 04:00:15 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #262 Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 10 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 262 Today's Topics: drugs ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 09 Feb 1994 08:48:28 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: drugs To: kraftwerk Really-From: zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu UNSUBSCRIBE me. My bbs will subscribe to this mail-list publically. Thanx f-erenc end#--------------------------------------------------------------------------* |This message was sent from MATRIX ARTS BBS (intacc) voice:(416)-364-1421 | |The views expressed in this posting are those of the individual author only. | #-----------------------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sat, 12 Feb 94 04:00:17 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #263 Kraftwerk Digest Sat, 12 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 263 Today's Topics: Kraftwerk pics ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 14:56:39 CST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk pics To: kraftwerk Really-From: "Aart-Jan van Amerongen" Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hello, During some FTP'ing in 'cs.uwp.edu' I retreived a number of Kraftwerk pictures. Under the Kraftwerklist subscribers, there must be some with rare photomaterial. Wouldn't it be a nice idea if they scanned some material and uploaded it to cs.uwp.edu? Personally I would be interested in a controversial photo that was taken of the group during a visit to the Dutch 'Dodewaard' nuclear power plant, where the members can be seen in sterile white suits. Thanks in advance, Aart-Jan van Amerongen. /***************************************************************\ * " E-mail?: * * I got in a very strange psychic situation. * * A kind of dreamworld appeared, * * a feeling of oneness with the world. * * A very strange experience which reminded me... * * Some experience I had in childhood. " * * * * Aart-Jan van Amerongen * * Zadelstraat 35 bis * * 3511 LS UTRECHT * * Tel. +31 (0) 30 367744 * * E-mail: A.J.vanAmerongen@stud.let.ruu.nl) * * * \***************************************************************/ ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sun, 13 Feb 94 04:00:18 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #264 Kraftwerk Digest Sun, 13 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 264 Today's Topics: sellafield ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 12 Feb 94 12:53:47 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: sellafield To: kraftwerk Really-From: JWGROTE@ucs.indiana.edu Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Saturday, February 12th, 1994 at 12:48pm this is probably old news for all of you spread across the interesting places in the world, but i'm in the middle of a bunch of cornfields in indiana -usa, and this is an exciting piece of news for me... there is a videotape distributed by radioactive records which purports to contain live performances by our favorite deutschmanner at sellafield. just bought it for $15 but haven't seen it yet. sort of like new kraftwerk!!! ______________________________________________________________________________ ### ###### ### ###### ### ### ###### ### ### ############## ### ### ### ######################### ### ### ### #### ########### #### ### ### ### #### ########### ####### ### ### ### ########## ### ### ### ########## ### ### ### #### ##### ### ### ########## ##### ### ### ########## ##### ### ##### ### jwgrote@ucs.indiana.edu ##### ______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Mon, 14 Feb 94 04:00:15 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #265 Kraftwerk Digest Mon, 14 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 265 Today's Topics: Elektric Music Tour an S.P.O.C.K. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 14 Feb 94 8:26:53 MET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Elektric Music Tour an S.P.O.C.K. To: kraftwerk Really-From: Lars Nellemann Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi Kraftwerkians News about the Elektric Music tour: The Gig in Copenhagen at the 7th May, there will be two support bands: LFO and S.P.O.C.K. I'm afraid I have no info on other gigs in Europe or other places. In connection with the S.P.O.C.K. support - I would very much like to have something taped by this group - so if anyone in Scandinavia or the rest of the world have acces to their material - and would like to make a tape trade - please contact me at nelleman@biobase.aau.dk. I can offer this in return: Kraftwerk: The remix Computerwelt (razormaid-mix) Das Model (razormaid-mix) Sex Objekt (razormaid-mix) Pocket calculator (Mixx-it remix) The telephone call (razormaid-mix) The mix medley (razormaid-mix) Re-werked (musicfactory master mix) Sex object (Techno pop version) Tour de France (Disconet remix) Electric cafe (Mix-it remix) Technopop (demo version) Kraftwerk: Ultra Rare Tracks Computer World (Klick Mix) Pocket Calculator (East Meets West mix) Music - Non stop (Cut up mix) Trans Europe Express (T.E.E. mix) The Robots (Program mix) Autobahn (Peoples car mix) Europe Endless (Open border mix) Man Machine (Space mix) The Model (Catbonic mix) Neon Lights (Ton-up mix) Showroom Dummies (M.C.M.G. mix) Kraftwerk: Live Dusseldorf, Phillipshalle, 31/10/1991 Disc1 Nummern Computerwelt It's more fun to Compute/ Heimcomputer Computerliebe Das Modell Tour de France Autobahn Radioaktivitat Trans-Europa-Express/Metall auf Metall/ Abzug. Disc2 Die Roboter/Robotronik Taschenrechner Musique non stop Reworked (Music factory mastermix) The mix-medley (Razormaid Gridlock mix) Sex-objekt (Razormaid mix) Techno-pop (Demo edit) ----- Kraftwerk 1 Kraftwerk 2 Ralph & Florian Autobahn (German ed.) CD 42.48 1974 Radioaktivitat (German ed.) CD 36.03 1975 Radioactivity (English ed.) LP 1975 Trans-Europa-express (German) CD 42.55 1977 Trans-Europe-express (Eng. ed) LP 1977 Man machine (Eng. ed) CD 36.21 1978 Computerwelt (German ed) CD 34.37 1981 Computerworld (Eng. ed) LP 1981 The model/Computerlove 7" 1981 Electric Cafe (German ed) CD 35.43 1986 Electric Cafe (Eng. ed) LP 1986 Trans-Europe-express (US) (4) CDs 22.48 1990 The Mix (German ed) CD 65.15 1991 The Mix (English ed) CD 65.14 1991 Die roboter (3) CDs 16.24 1991 Radioaktivitat (3) CDs 19.06 1991 The Model (Retrospective 75-78) CD 57.39 1992 As well as 5 versions of Tour de France and the Remixes of Africa Bambaata's Planet rock. So if you have anything by S.P.O.C.K. - and want the exchange tapes - let me know Lars -- ***************************************** * Lars Nellemann * * University of Copenhagen * * Copenhagen, Denmark * * nelleman@biobase.aau.dk * * FAX: +45 3532 6120 * ***************************************** ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 04:00:16 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #266 Kraftwerk Digest Tue, 15 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 266 Today's Topics: Old Kraftwerk/WWW Server for Wais on Kraftwerk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 02:03:49 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Old Kraftwerk/WWW Server for Wais on Kraftwerk To: kraftwerk Really-From: DATman Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu In reference to the original KW Ralf und Florian album. The poster which is included with the original Phillips vinyl, which I have in mint condition, shows how life was at Kling Klang. As I have promised before I would scan the poster and make it available for all to see, still have not had the oppurtunity. There is also a picture of them in studio, quite hippy though. Kraftwerk II on Phillips vinyl is very hard to find, I do however have an original Kraftwerk I on Phillips in good condition and it shows no sign of drug use in Kling Klang at the time. For those of you have access to Mosaic and the Web, here is a list of a search pertaining to all Kraftwerk realeases in a large WAIS database accessible by http://www.cs.tu-berlin.de and other sites on the Web. Note: Each (FILE) marker means there is a complete listing for each of these entries. All you have to do is click on the entry and voila, all the tracks, info about the label, and format. Quite nice! Also accessible by GOPHER://SANDRA.EE.TU-BERLIN.DE/77/CDBASE/INDEX INDEX and then entering the name Kraftwerk as the search entry. Quite an extensive database with over 85,000 CDs listed. Personally I cannot believe all that they have on Kraftwerk. Select one of: (FILE) Kraftwerk: Trans Europe Express (FILE) Kraftwerk: The Model (FILE) Kraftwerk: Radio-Activity (FILE) Kraftwerk: Autobahn (FILE) Kraftwerk: Die Roboter (FILE) Kraftwerk: Electric Cafe (FILE) Kraftwerk: The Mix (FILE) KRAFTWERK: KRAFTWERK / KRAFTWERK II (2) (FILE) KRAFTWERK: (12-INCH) DAS MODEL / NEONLICHT / DIE ROBOTER / TRANS-EUROPA EXPRESS (FILE) KRAFTWERK: (12-INCH) MUSIQUE NON STOP / (7 (FILE) KRAFTWERK: (12-INCH) THE TELEPHONE CALL (REMIX) / HOUSE PHONE / DER TELEFON ANRUF - GERMAN VERSION (FILE) KRAFTWERK: (12-INCH) TOUR DE FRANCE (3 VERSIONS) (FILE) KRAFTWERK: (12-INCH) TOUR DE FRANCE (FRENCH/REMIX) (FILE) KRAFTWERK: (12-INCH) TOUR DE FRANCE (VERSION ALLEMANDE / VERSION FRANCAISE) (FILE) KRAFTWERK: (7-INCH) POCKET CALCULATOR / DENTAKU (YELLOW-GREEN VINYL) (FILE) KRAFTWERK: (7-INCH) SHOWROOM DUMMIES / NUMBERS (REMIX) (FILE) KRAFTWERK: (CASSETTE-ONLY) BREMEN BEATCLUB 1971 / GERMAN RADIO WDR 1975 (BOOTLEG) (FILE) KRAFTWERK: (CASSETTE-ONLY) KOLN 12.6.71 (LIVE BOOTLEG) (FILE) KRAFTWERK: (CASSETTE-ONLY) LIVE IN BERLIN, METROPOL 6/10/81 (BOOTLEG) (FILE) KRAFTWERK: (COMPACT DISC) COMPUTER WORLD (FILE) KRAFTWERK: (COMPACT DISC) RADIO-AKTIVITAT (FILE) KRAFTWERK: AUTOBAHN (FILE) KRAFTWERK: COMPUTER WORLD (FILE) KRAFTWERK: ELECTRIC CAFE (FILE) KRAFTWERK: LIVE AT THE RITZ, NEW YORK, 1981 TOUR (BOOTLEG) (2) (WITH ION EXCHANGE'S (FILE) KRAFTWERK: LIVE IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY AT THE BEGGARS BANQUET CLUB, 4/13/75 (FILE) KRAFTWERK: MAN MACHINE (FILE) KRAFTWERK: MIX (FILE) KRAFTWERK: MODEL-RETROSPECTIVE 1975-1978 (FILE) KRAFTWERK: RADIO-ACTIVITY (FILE) KRAFTWERK: RADIOACTIVITY (FILE) KRAFTWERK: RALF AND FLORIAN (FILE) KRAFTWERK: ROBOTS (FILE) KRAFTWERK: SHOWROOM DUMMIES (FILE) KRAFTWERK: STIMME DER ENERGIE: LIVE IN MUNSTER 1984 (BOOTLEG) (FILE) KRAFTWERK: TBON PAGOTHNK (LIVE 1981 BOOTLEG) (2) (FILE) KRAFTWERK: THE MAN MACHINE (FILE) KRAFTWERK: TRANS-EUROPE EXPRESS (FILE) Kraftwerk: Autobahn. (FILE) Kraftwerk: Computerwelt. (FILE) Kraftwerk: Computer World. (FILE) Kraftwerk: Electric Cafe. (FILE) Kraftwerk: Electric Cafe. (FILE) Kraftwerk: Man Machine. (FILE) Kraftwerk: Die Mensch Maschine. (FILE) Kraftwerk: The Mix. (FILE) Kraftwerk: The Mix - English Version. (FILE) Kraftwerk: The Model - Retrospective 1975-78. (FILE) Kraftwerk: Radio-Aktivitaet. (FILE) Kraftwerk: Radio-Activity. (FILE) Kraftwerk: Trans Europa Express. (FILE) Pop Sampler: The Best Of New Wave Club Class-X. (FILE) Pop Sampler: Dance Box. (FILE) Pop Sampler: Dance Max 6. (FILE) Pop Sampler: Helft Russland. (FILE) Pop Sampler: New Wave Club Class X 3. (FILE) Oldie Sampler: 30 Years Of No. 1s Vol.10. ************************************************************************ * John M. Richey DATman * * jrichey@sitvxc.stevens-tech.edu (Vax/Vms) * * jrichey@gauss.stevens-tech.edu (NeXt) * * jrichey@menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu (Sun/SGI) * * Stevens Institute of Technology * * Hoboken, NJ USA * ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Wed, 16 Feb 94 04:00:18 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #267 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 16 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 267 Today's Topics: Elektric Music Tour an S.P.O.C.K. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 15:20:53 -0500 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: To: kraftwerk Really-From: gsp3@cornell.edu (Jedi Greg) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu subscribe kraftwerk Greg Pass ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 14:52:26 +0100 (MET) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Elektric Music Tour an S.P.O.C.K. To: kraftwerk Really-From: Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Really-From: Lars Nellemann > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Hi Kraftwerkians > > News about the Elektric Music tour: The Gig in Copenhagen at the 7th May, > there will be two support bands: LFO and S.P.O.C.K. I'm afraid I have > no info on other gigs in Europe or other places. > > In connection with the S.P.O.C.K. support - I would very much like to > have something taped by this group - so if anyone in Scandinavia or the > rest of the world have acces to their material - and would like to make > a tape trade - please contact me at nelleman@biobase.aau.dk. Hello Lars, I do have quite a lot of SPOCK material, both their CD-album, their CD-single and their "7-single that they released a few years ago. If you are interested I could tape it for you this week. I am very interested in obtaining a copy of Ultra Rare Tracks, so even if you have got somebody who is going to send you SPOCK material, I would be very happy to swap something else (Like Spacelab...) /anders -- *************************************************************************** * Anders Wilhelm * em: dvlawm@cs.umu.se * "I program my Home-computer, * * Umea University * trafo@unitech.se * feel myself into the future" * * Sweden * * -Florian Schneider, 1981 * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Thu, 17 Feb 94 04:00:14 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #268 Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 17 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 268 Today's Topics: Kraftwerk Tour Dates? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 16 Feb 94 21:37:00 -0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk Tour Dates? To: kraftwerk Really-From: dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl (Dolf Wiemer) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I'm compiling a list of all concerts Kraftwerk has given in the past years. I searching for dates and places unknown to me to add to the list. The ones of 1991-1993 are easy to find, but from the 1981 concerts I need to know a lot of dates and places of concerts outside Europe (USA, Australia, India etc.). Of the concerts before 1981 it becomes difficult to find date and places. I have a list of all 1975-UK gigs but they had a US-tour as well in 1975 but I don't know the dates. Therefore I ask everyone to send me any dates (and all other possible information available, like theatre, possible cancellations, equipment failurers) of concerts which were given outside Europe. Help me to complete the list of concerts!! Dolf. | /|\ | dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl | /|\ | | / | \ | P.O. Box 62, 6720 AB, Bennekom | / | \ | | --------------- | The Netherlands | --------------- | | ' / | \ ` | +31 (0)8389-13576 Private | ' / | \ ` | | / | \ | +31 (0)80- 568684 Business | / | \ | --- . Dop . I'm the operator with my pocketcalculator ---- HACOM BBS, Amersfoort, The Netherlands. -31-33-803610/801882/806321. ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 17:35:15 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #269 Kraftwerk Digest Mon, 21 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 269 Today's Topics: *KW1* and Inspiration Joy Division plays KW. (7 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 18:59:59 -0500 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: *KW1* and Inspiration To: kraftwerk Really-From: fl12@cornell.edu (blind Opera) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Your Silent Face (a.k.a. KW1) by New Order and Inspiration by Section 25 (former label mates of New Order -- and produced by the lead singer from NO a couple of times), draw heavily from TEE and Man-Machine. Indeed, KW1 synth is *borrowed* from Europe Endless and Inspiration seems to draw from the Model (Section 25 did this song on their last show). Does anybody know of other groups that have drawn from Kraftwerk for a particular song? (sampling does not count). Also, what is the consensus on the Cleopatra re-issues. Aside from the butchering of the covers (particularly Man-Machine), it seems that the sound has been improved a bit. How about the US copy of Computerworld, has later pressings being improved? (I only have the Warner Bros issue made in Germany, but sold in the US -- like all those CDs pressed during the dawn of CDs). Thanks, fernando PS Could the person in Japan who posted the Electronik Music stuff mail me a copy of what he knows is out? Thanks <><><><><><><><><><><><><><>: fernando (FL12@cornell.edu) Grad Student, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY "The boards of such familiar grain. Are roads leading nowhere, careful drawings in the dust...He tries to remember...The breeze blows it all away. Something through the darkness, Caught his eye" -- Wallpaper Dying, And Also The Trees <><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 94 18:11:38 +0900 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Joy Division plays KW. To: kraftwerk Really-From: Ogura Yoshito Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi I bought a LD, "NewOrder Story", several days ago. In this LD, Bernard Sumner(lead vocal of NewOrder) says that Ian Curtis(lead vocal of 'Joy Division') was playing the KW's records on JD's rehearsal and JD had played KW's tunes. I am very interested in these performances. Could someone tell me more infos(tapes, records or CD)? Thanks in advance. This LD is a re-compilation of the TV programme(South Bank Show?) in UK. It was perhaps broadcasted on 29/8/93. Simultaneously, NewOrder was playing on the Main stage of the Reading Festival. I had to leave UK at 28/8/93. Sigh... ogura@ndc.ngsk.sony.co.jp (Sony Nagasaki co.) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 12:22:55 +0000 (GMT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Joy Division plays KW. To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard W Rackham Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Hi > I bought a LD, "NewOrder Story", several days ago. In this LD, > Bernard Sumner(lead vocal of NewOrder) says that Ian Curtis(lead vocal > of 'Joy Division') was playing the KW's records on JD's rehearsal and > JD had played KW's tunes. I am very interested in these performances. > Could someone tell me more infos(tapes, records or CD)? > Thanks in advance. I don't know of any bootlegs of JD covering KW, although Ian Curtis was a big fan of them. New Order did a song on the Power Corruption and Lies album called "Your Silent Face" - this was titled on some copies of the album KW-1 (Kraftwerk 1). Richard (cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 10:46:25 -0500 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Joy Division plays KW. To: kraftwerk Really-From: fl12@cornell.edu (blind Opera) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >Really-From: Ogura Yoshito > I bought a LD, "NewOrder Story", several days ago. In this LD, >Bernard Sumner(lead vocal of NewOrder) says that Ian Curtis(lead vocal >of 'Joy Division') was playing the KW's records on JD's rehearsal and >JD had played KW's tunes. I am very interested in these performances. >Could someone tell me more infos(tapes, records or CD)? > Thanks in advance. There are no bootlegs or tapes being traded with this stuff on it. There has been rumours of a 2hr rehearsal tape floating around, but some hardcore tape traders have not been able to find them. All the LP/CD bootlegs are of live shows, an unreleased LP and radio sessions (with some songs as outtakes). The rehearsal tapes exists, but Peter Hook (the bass player) has them and he knowingly has not given copies to anybody else. fernando <><><><><><><><><><><><><><>: fernando (FL12@cornell.edu) Grad Student, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY "The boards of such familiar grain. Are roads leading nowhere, careful drawings in the dust...He tries to remember...The breeze blows it all away. Something through the darkness, Caught his eye" -- Wallpaper Dying, And Also The Trees <><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 94 19:13:38 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Joy Division plays KW. To: kraftwerk Really-From: Fredrik Idestam-Almquist Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > "Your Silent >Face" - this was titled on some copies of the album KW-1 (Kraftwerk 1). Que? Please elaborate, what do you mean, "titled"? There is no text "Your silent face" on my KW-1 as far as I can remember. Interesting. Fredrik / RND ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 18:26:29 +0000 (GMT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Joy Division plays KW. To: kraftwerk Really-From: Richard W Rackham Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > "Your Silent > >Face" - this was titled on some copies of the album KW-1 (Kraftwerk 1). > > Que? Please elaborate, what do you mean, "titled"? There is no text "Your > silent face" on my KW-1 as far as I can remember. Interesting. New Order did a track called 'Your Silent Face' which is also known as KW-1 (where the KW is meant to signify Kraftwerk). It isn't a copy of a KW song, but a 'tribute' (hence the name KW-1). This is the only time New Order have made any reference to Kraftwerk - which is why I mentioned it. Sorry for the ambiguous comment. Richard (cs90rwr@brunel.ac.uk) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 14:03:50 -0500 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Joy Division plays KW. To: kraftwerk Really-From: fl12@cornell.edu (blind Opera) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >Really-From: Fredrik Idestam-Almquist >Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > >> "Your Silent >>Face" - this was titled on some copies of the album KW-1 (Kraftwerk 1). > >Que? Please elaborate, what do you mean, "titled"? There is no text "Your >silent face" on my KW-1 as far as I can remember. Interesting. > This typo was only found in the initial copies of the US cassette for New Order's Power Corruption and Lies album, where they screwed up and put the working title (the Kraftwerk one = KW1) on the cassette cover. This is what points to the fact that KW1 was used as the working title for Your Silent Face fernando <><><><><><><><><><><><><><>: fernando (FL12@cornell.edu) Grad Student, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY "The boards of such familiar grain. Are roads leading nowhere, careful drawings in the dust...He tries to remember...The breeze blows it all away. Something through the darkness, Caught his eye" -- Wallpaper Dying, And Also The Trees <><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Feb 94 15:47:53 -0500 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Joy Division plays KW. To: kraftwerk Really-From: plmoses@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu (Paul L. Moses) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >From kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Sun Feb 20 13:22:43 1994 >X-Old-Cc: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu >Subject: Re: Joy Division plays KW. >Date: Sun, 20 Feb 94 19:13:38 +0100 >From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (kraftwerk mailing list) >Sender: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu >To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu >Errors-To: kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > >Really-From: Fredrik Idestam-Almquist >Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > >> "Your Silent >>Face" - this was titled on some copies of the album KW-1 (Kraftwerk 1). > >Que? Please elaborate, what do you mean, "titled"? There is no text "Your >silent face" on my KW-1 as far as I can remember. Interesting. > > Fredrik / RND > > ON THE *NEW ORDER* ALBUM, POWER, CORRUPTION AND LIES, the song "Your Silent Face" was labelled KW1. Not on the vinyl record, but on the CASSETTE released by *Factory*. Paul ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Tue, 22 Feb 94 04:00:16 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #270 Kraftwerk Digest Tue, 22 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 270 Today's Topics: SUBSCRIBE subscribe digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 22:48:54 -0800 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: SUBSCRIBE To: kraftwerk Really-From: frank.martinez@support.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hello again, Incase my first letter didn't make sense, i am very interested, and would like to SUBSCRIBE. Thank you. Frank Martin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 21:34:07 CET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: subscribe digest To: kraftwerk Really-From: berkhout@vcgn.hacktic.nl (J. Berkhout) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu looking for pen friends all over the world.My adress J Berkhout Dunantdreef 49 .3146 VE maassluis holland -- J. Berkhout - berkhout@vcgn.hacktic.nl ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 04:00:15 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #271 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 23 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 271 Today's Topics: Digest list ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 22:01:23 -0600 (CST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Digest list To: kraftwerk Really-From: jsung@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jeffery Sung) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Lieber Robotor, please change my subsciption to the digest list. Thank you, Jeff Sung ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Thu, 24 Feb 94 04:00:15 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #272 Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 24 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 272 Today's Topics: Live at PhilpsHalle (2 msgs) RE: Live at PhilpsHalle ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 13:41:29 +0200 (EET) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Live at PhilpsHalle To: kraftwerk Really-From: Jouko Antero Huhtala Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi ! I have heard/read that there is bootleg CD around which contains live recording at Philps Halle. I also have heard that the sound quality on that CD is pretty good. (recorded straight from mixer maybe _NOT_ from public) If this is true, I'm _VERY_ much interested in this record. And the question is where can I get it ? I would be very happy if somebody could tell me if it is available here in Finland or at least in Europe. Thanks in advance! T: Jokke E-mail jhuhtala@vipunen.hut.fi ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 13:19:34 MET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Live at PhilpsHalle To: kraftwerk Really-From: Muegeli Thomas Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 23 Feb 1994 13:41:29 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <199402231141.AA17410@cs.uwp.edu> > Really-From: Jouko Antero Huhtala > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > Hi ! > > I have heard/read that there is bootleg CD around which contains > live recording at Philps Halle. I also have heard that the sound quality > on that CD is pretty good. (recorded straight from mixer maybe _NOT_ > from public) > > If this is true, I'm _VERY_ much interested in this record. > And the question is where can I get it ? I would be very happy if somebody > could tell me if it is available here in Finland or at least in Europe. > > Thanks in advance! > > T: Jokke E-mail jhuhtala@vipunen.hut.fi This is a double CD - this was not a product of a semi-legal working company from luxembourg or italy, but a "real bootleg", probably manufactured in Korea, judging from the Matrix-Numbers. Easiest way is a record fair or a mailorder service. I do have some adresses, feel free to mail me for it! The Quality is fine, although i'd prefer the one from Zurich, which has also vg. quality but isn't the complete show - but I was at this concert, so... As we're talking of Bootlegs... does anybody have the DoubleAlbum "Security Device" - I bought this several years ago in a record shop in Firenze - right next to the dome, for those who know this town. I never saw this LP again, it has a bw-Macinosh-Like Cover, contains a concert from the 1981 Tour, but no loacation/date is indicated. Any idea? Although the cover is in italian lnguage the producers are mationed in Buenzen, Switzerland (i even know of a guy that used to live in Italy, moved then to Buenzen and was a big Kraftwerk/DepecheMode fan - coincidence?). STrangely enough neither Hot Wacks nor Voigts Collectors Pirce Guide for Boots do list this item... Any help would be appreciated (also about bootlegs in general...) 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Sound quality is awful, though..literally a walkman thrust into the air.. ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Fri, 25 Feb 94 04:00:19 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #273 Kraftwerk Digest Fri, 25 Feb 94 Volume 1 : Issue 273 Today's Topics: RE: Live at PhilpsHalle ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 24 Feb 94 23:03:46 GMT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: RE: Live at PhilpsHalle To: kraftwerk Really-From: kluivers@knoware.nl (Ruud Kluivers) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Last week there was a mega record and cd-fairin Utrecht Holland. I didn't attend but a friend of mine spotted alot of Kraftwerk promo's and bootlegs and also promo cd's by Elektric Music. The fair will be in Amsterdam in April.I'll keep you posted and invite you too send whish lists. I'll make sure to attend in April. Ruud Ruud kluivers Kluivers@knoware.nl cis:71333,630 ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ******************************