Date: Thu, 2 Dec 93 04:00:14 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #222 Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 2 Dec 93 Volume 1 : Issue 222 Today's Topics: New Kraftwerk....? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1993 09:06:42 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: New Kraftwerk....? To: kraftwerk Really-From: DATman Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu The following are my comments in regards to the last few digests regarding the so called new Kraftwerk album from Japan: > Really-From: Hillebrand Boorsma > > For you who hoped there would be a new release in Japan of new KW stuff, > this message may be dissapointing. My friend Dolf contacted Ian from Aktivitaet > about it last night, and he told the cd is a sampler with music from the Capitol > era. He even seems to have it already. > THis means we'll have to do with the Music Non Stop announcements on MTV for > Xmas.... > (Yet they are nice!) > I would assume that Aktivitaet is the most accurate source we have! Therefore what they say is ultimately correct. I sent a letter to Aktivitaet to be put on the subscription and never heard back, I suppose that I will have to do it again. > Really-From: Gabriel Yedid > > So are the people at Aktivitaet right? Is the KW disc released Japan > another compilation (yes I know I have already mailed a rather pessimistic > message about this), or is it actually a new album with new material? > Figure the guy who first brought it to our attention should be asked. Do > the two stories conflict? > > Gabe Gabe, my source here is simply a good distributor who just gets numbers and the such, he is no guru on the subject. I will be contacting him today to inform him as to what I have learned here on the list. > > Really-From: Gabriel Yedid > > Well, the title says it all. What is the title? > > I knew KW had done their last two albums with WEA, so I thought it > was a bit funny that the new album should be out on Capitol. So it's > really no surprise the thing is just another compilation album. And not > even with updated remixes! [Although if it comes out here in Canada, I > will probably get it if Tour de France is on it.] Eventhough they are released in the USA on WEA, they are still published in Europe under EMI-Elektrola, therefore the release in Japan on Capitol did not seem so strange, for Capitol is the distributor for EMI in the rest of the world, I believe that includes Japan. > > I think we should all just give up, face facts, and admit that the studio > days of KW (at least while the band is together) are over. I have a dream > that when Ralf and Florian do retire, they will release a massive "lost > years" collection. And as much as I might hate to, I also suggest we > start taking a hard look at Elektric Music as the natural successors to KW. > I would have to admit that EM is defenitely moving forward, even producing many other works as being positive. i.e LFO, Bambaattaa, etc. Well it seems that we shall just have to patiently wait and see, at least by bringing the topic forward we have prepared ourselves for whatever is released here in the states, if anything at all. Sincerely, John Richey ************************************************************************ * John M. Richey DATman * * jrichey@sitvxc.stevens-tech.edu (Vax/Vms) * * jrichey@gauss.stevens-tech.edu (NeXt) * * jrichey@menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu (Sun/SGI) * * Stevens Institute of Technology * * Hoboken, NJ USA * ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 04:00:13 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #223 Kraftwerk Digest Tue, 7 Dec 93 Volume 1 : Issue 223 Today's Topics: Aktivitaet (2 msgs) Breakin' soundtrack on CD (3 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 10:35:58 CET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: To: kraftwerk Really-From: Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Please put me in 'digest mode' for the Kraftwerk mailinglist. Thanks! /***************************************************************\ * " E-mail?: * * I got in a very strange psychic situation. * * A kind of dreamworld appeared, * * a feeling of oneness with the world. * * A very strange experience which reminded me... * * Some experience I had in childhood. " * * * * Aart-Jan van Amerongen * * Zadelstraat 35 bis * * 3511 LS UTRECHT * * Tel. +31 (0) 30 367744 * * E-mail: A.J.vanAmerongen@stud.let.ruu.nl) * * * \***************************************************************/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 12:06:08 MET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Aktivitaet To: kraftwerk Really-From: Hillebrand Boorsma Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu John says: > The following are my comments in regards to the last few digests regarding the so called new Kraftwerk album from Japan: > I would assume that Aktivitaet is the most accurate source we have! > Therefore what they say is ultimately correct. I think so, for Ian seems to have the CD already. Can you mail the label# again, then I will look it up in the last Issue (got it this weekend) > I sent a letter to Aktivitaet to be put on the subscription and never heard > back, I suppose that I will have to do it again. Did you include a reply coupon or something like that ? I payed for my subscription at the concert in Groningen :-) Anyway, if youre serious on KW you should get Aktivitaet: lots of info on releases , Elektrik music etc and a nice layout full of pics ! ________________________________________________________________________________ Hillebrand Boorsma = Boorsma@duttncb.tn.tudelft.nl = +31 15 782473 +31 15 615553 "I'm the antenna,catching vibrations;You're the transmitter,give information" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 12:24:14 +0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Aktivitaet To: kraftwerk Really-From: d.a.davies@bham.ac.uk (David Davies) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Can someone post an address or contact point for Aktivitaet. I must admit I'd never heard of it until the subject cropped up on this list! Thanks, David Davies Department of Physiology, The Medical School, University of Birmingham, Edgbaston, Birmingham B15 2TT. UK. Tel No - +44-(0)-21-414-3255 Fax - +44-(0)-21-414-6924 Janet - D.A.Davies@uk.ac.bham Internet - D.A.Davies@bham.ac.uk WWW/URL - http://med152.bham.ac.uk/http/signatures/davies.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 03:08:00 -0500 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Breakin' soundtrack on CD To: kraftwerk Really-From: bill.best@canrem.com (Bill Best) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > I know I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm pretty sure the soundtrack to > "Breakin'" is not on CD. Even if it is, I'm also pretty sure that "Tour > de France" wasn't included (although it is in the movie, yep). I have the Breakin' soundtrack on CD, but Tour de France is not on it. [) [) [)ill [)est =========== bill.best@canrem.com * Q-Blue v0.7 * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 18:59:04 -500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Breakin' soundtrack on CD To: kraftwerk Really-From: Gabriel Yedid Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu On Tue, 30 Nov 1993, kraftwerk mailing list wrote: > Really-From: bill.best@canrem.com (Bill Best) > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > > I know I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm pretty sure the soundtrack to > > "Breakin'" is not on CD. Even if it is, I'm also pretty sure that "Tour > > de France" wasn't included (although it is in the movie, yep). > > > I have the Breakin' soundtrack on CD, but Tour de France is not on it. > There were two of these breakdancing movies that came out at roughly the same time. "Breakdance" is the one, I believe, that had TdF in the soundtrack. Gabe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 22:15:52 -0800 (PST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Breakin' soundtrack on CD To: kraftwerk Really-From: kzim@ucrmath.ucr.edu (christopher zimmerman) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > There were two of these breakdancing movies that came out at roughly > the same time. "Breakdance" is the one, I believe, that had TdF in the > soundtrack. > > Gabe Nope, it's Breakin'. Christopher Robin Zimmerman a regular at the Electric Cafe ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 04:00:11 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #224 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 8 Dec 93 Volume 1 : Issue 224 Today's Topics: Breakin' soundtrack on CD (2 msgs) Kraftwerk Digest V1 #223 No, really, I mean it (was Re: Breakin' soundtrack on CD) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 12:10:59 -0800 (PST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Breakin' soundtrack on CD To: kraftwerk Really-From: Jonathan Komar Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu On Tue, 30 Nov 1993, kraftwerk mailing list wrote: > Really-From: bill.best@canrem.com (Bill Best) > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > > I know I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm pretty sure the soundtrack to > > "Breakin'" is not on CD. Even if it is, I'm also pretty sure that "Tour > > de France" wasn't included (although it is in the movie, yep). > > > I have the Breakin' soundtrack on CD, but Tour de France is not on it. > No it's not on the Breakin' soundtrack, it's on the K-TEL Breakdance album. Unfortunately, it's not the original version of Tour de France, but rather a remake by a group called "10-speed". As far as I know, this breakdance compilation is not on CD, but I could be wrong. Jonathan Komar ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 19:24:39 -500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Breakin' soundtrack on CD To: kraftwerk Really-From: Gabriel Yedid Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu On Mon, 6 Dec 1993, kraftwerk mailing list wrote: > Really-From: kzim@ucrmath.ucr.edu (christopher zimmerman) > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > > There were two of these breakdancing movies that came out at roughly > > the same time. "Breakdance" is the one, I believe, that had TdF in the > > soundtrack. > > > > Gabe > > Nope, it's Breakin'. > Are you sure? I distinctly remember TdF having been released in a breakdancing soundtrack movie (I know the released ST of Breakin didn't have it 'cause I got that one). Does anyone have the soundtrack to Breakdance? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1993 09:45:43 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #223 To: kraftwerk Really-From: DATman Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > Really-From: Hillebrand Boorsma > > John says: > > > The following are my comments in regards to the last few digests regarding the so called new Kraftwerk album from Japan: > > > I would assume that Aktivitaet is the most accurate source we have! > > Therefore what they say is ultimately correct. > > I think so, for Ian seems to have the CD already. Can you mail the label# > again, then I will look it up in the last Issue (got it this weekend) ***TOCP 7914 Japan Capitol.*** > > I sent a letter to Aktivitaet to be put on the subscription and never heard > > back, I suppose that I will have to do it again. Yes I did include the reply coupons. They cost $0.95 ea. I just figured they take a long time. At the same time I sent in the discount coupon (mention of) to IAC and ordered the KW book. Well since then I have read the book twice, just goes to show how long ago that was I guess. I think at least since the beginning of summer. > Did you include a reply coupon or something like that ? I payed for my > subscription at the concert in Groningen :-) Anyway, if youre serious on KW > you should get Aktivitaet: lots of info on releases , Elektrik music etc and > a nice layout full of pics ! I suppose I am serious about KW, just not about the fanzine, for I have never seen an issue. Have you ever seen anyone selling "Green Cone", Phillips original in Aktivitaet? I have both original Phillips vinyl of KW1 and Ralf und Florian. If you have ever seen the original of Ru.F then you would have seen the ultimate piece of Emil Schult artwork inside. It is the eight-gate poster with the history and name of each song from the LP. The one I have is in mint condition and someday I am going to scan the thing and post it to the net, but I have been promising to do that for some time now. -------------------------------- > Really-From: d.a.davies@bham.ac.uk (David Davies) > > Can someone post an address or contact point for Aktivitaet. I must admit > I'd never heard of it until the subject cropped up on this list! > > Thanks, > David Davies Aktivitaet 108 Cummings Park Crescent Aberdeen AB2 7AR Scotland UK Send two IRC's! Hey David Davies, are you famous? > ------------------------------ > > I have the Breakin' soundtrack on CD, but Tour de France is not on it. > > [) [) > [)ill [)est > =========== > bill.best@canrem.com > > * Q-Blue v0.7 * Thank you Bill for that confirmation. Both on the fact that it is available on CD and that it is not on the soundtrack. BTW, how is the fiber optic digital cable working? > ------------------------------ ************************************************************************ * John M. Richey DATman * * jrichey@sitvxc.stevens-tech.edu (Vax/Vms) * * jrichey@gauss.stevens-tech.edu (NeXt) * * jrichey@menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu (Sun/SGI) * * Stevens Institute of Technology * * Hoboken, NJ USA * ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 20:24:17 -0800 (PST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: No, really, I mean it (was Re: Breakin' soundtrack on CD) To: kraftwerk Really-From: kzim@ucrmath.ucr.edu (christopher zimmerman) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Gabe wrote: > > > There were two of these breakdancing movies that came out at roughly > > > the same time. "Breakdance" is the one, I believe, that had TdF in the > > > soundtrack. I wrote: > > Nope, it's Breakin'. Gabe responded: > Are you sure? I distinctly remember TdF having been released in a > breakdancing soundtrack movie (I know the released ST of Breakin didn't > have it 'cause I got that one). Does anyone have the soundtrack to > Breakdance? OK, let me be more emphatic. ;-) "Tour de France" is featured in BREAKIN'. If you don't believe me, come over to my house and we'll watch it. I picked it up for $7.98 at Wherehouse just so I could prove to my friends that Kraftwerk is mainstream ("see, they're in a major motion picture!") and also because it's a fun movie to laugh at. Now, you might be thinking of that aforementioned K-tel breakdance compilation which includes "Tour de France" by not Kraftwerk, but 10-Speed. General consensus would be that the 10-Speed version sucks rocks (ok, *my* general consensus ;-) ). However, this isn't the soundtrack to the movie BREAKIN', the movie that contains Kraftwerk's "Tour de France." Nor is it the soundtrack to any other movie that I'm aware of. Once again, if you'd like to hear (well, at least an instrumental of) "Tour de France," by Kraftwerk, that movie to hound your local video stores for is in fact entitled "BREAKIN'". Not to be confused with "Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo," which contains no Kraftwerk music of any kind. For my next message, I'll describe the scene in the movie where "Tour de France" is playing, what the character (in "Breakin'") is doing, and generally be even more annoying than last time. Or, you could believe me. ;-) My apologies to anyone who doesn't find this message damn funny. It's finals week, and I feel much better now that I've written this dissertation. Christopher Robin Zimmerman just this close to graduating and a regular at the Electric Cafe ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Thu, 9 Dec 93 04:00:12 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #225 Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 9 Dec 93 Volume 1 : Issue 225 Today's Topics: remove ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 08 Dec 93 18:58:23 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: remove To: kraftwerk Really-From: edgreen452@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu please remove me from the list. Thanks. ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Fri, 10 Dec 93 04:00:13 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #226 Kraftwerk Digest Fri, 10 Dec 93 Volume 1 : Issue 226 Today's Topics: What's Clock DVA all about? (fwd) (3 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 17:58:30 -500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: What's Clock DVA all about? (fwd) To: kraftwerk Really-From: Gabriel Yedid Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I hope this is the right list to be asking questions about Clock DVA. 1) Who are these guys (gals?) ? 2) What kind of music do they play? Is it more like KW or Laibach, or something altogether different? I have seen a couple of their CD's here (in Montreal). They are only available on import and are quite expensive. I'd like to know a bit about them before I decide to take the plunge and get one (if I can find a place that will sell them for somewhat less). Gabe ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Dec 93 21:56:34 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: What's Clock DVA all about? (fwd) To: kraftwerk Really-From: subratab@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu re Clock DVA I thought that they were once part of Throbbing Gristle, but I could be wrong..hard to describe, but definitely not close to Kraftwerk..more like mid80s Front 242, but a little more intelligent..I'm not a big fan - I don't really find they do much more with the medium than what has been done before. If you're in Canada, you should be able to get their last album at domestic price: Sign. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 01:44:32 -0500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: What's Clock DVA all about? (fwd) To: kraftwerk Really-From: SCALIGU1@ithaca.edu Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu They r an avant-garde high tech musical group, not unlike KW were during their time. Very similar in many ways, but still very original as well. You may want to surf the internet and find some info. 4 yourself....I know they're out there. Or u could buy 1 of thier cd's ...I would. brief summary man Scott.....(*) ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sun, 12 Dec 93 04:00:12 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #227 Kraftwerk Digest Sun, 12 Dec 93 Volume 1 : Issue 227 Today's Topics: Trauma covers Radioactivity ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 11 Dec 93 21:48 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Trauma covers Radioactivity To: kraftwerk Really-From: rmb@cblph.att.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I popped into a local CD shop today and found a new (I think) CD by a band Trauma. Well, it was playing in the store and I asked who it was. The owner gave me the jewel box to look at and guess what I found! They covered Radioactivity (actually it has the German spelling but I don't want to butcher it.) I skipped the CD player up to that track (I know the owner of the shop) to check it out. Sounded good. In general, what I heard of the CD (only a few of songs) was kinda dark synth stuff. Their Radioactivity had the same feel. Has anyone heard of Trauma? I forget what the title of the CD was (of course). I'll probably pick it up sometime. Just thought you all would like to know about the cover! Rich... { Rich Brack /-/ _ i don't want to be your angel } { rmb@cblph.att.com /-/ _|_|_ i want to be your witch! } { \-\/-/ ( * )tch -yello } { \/\/ /^\ } ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Tue, 14 Dec 93 04:00:12 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #228 Kraftwerk Digest Tue, 14 Dec 93 Volume 1 : Issue 228 Today's Topics: DJ at Boston Pool Club... OMD Mailing List (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 12:00:02 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: DJ at Boston Pool Club... To: kraftwerk Really-From: eric@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu (Eric J. Hansen) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hey, ho... I was shooting pool at a club in Boston this past Saturday (Jillian's Billiards, in case anyone knows it), and was awestruck at the music selection they were playing. Typical 80's-Access type stuff - they were firing off favorite after favorite: New Order, Depeche Mode, Pet Shop Boys, Bronski Beat, OMD, Talk Talk, Yaz... fantastic! I was really psyched to hear all these bands - let alone one after another - but the real killer came when they played a KW track. Not Radioactivity, Computer Love, or anything necessary "popular", but Tour De France! Unbelievable! They must have had the LP (I didn't ask, though) It almost sounded like a mixed version, however. Are there any covers which sound very similar to KW's original version? Oh well. You'll have to pardon my lack of "point" in this message - I just get really riled up when I hear KW in publi! Yeah!! Eric *---------------------------------------------------------------------* | Eric J. Hansen .................... eric@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu | | Princeton Transportation Consulting Group, Inc. .... Burlington, MA | *---------------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 20:57:11 +0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: OMD Mailing List To: kraftwerk Really-From: u9118071@sys.uea.ac.uk (Fred Brewster) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Coming soon, to a terminal near you... OOOOOO MM MM DDDDDDD OO OO MMM MMM DD DD OO OO MM MM MM MM DD DD OO OO MM MMM MM DD DD OO OO MM M MM DD DD OO OO MM MM DD DD OOOOOO MM MM DDDDDDD The Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark Mailing List This is a proposal for a new electronic mailing list for the discussion of OMD If there is enough interest, the list may be created in the new year and will offer both interactive and daily digest subscriptions. If you are interested in joining the OMD mailing list reply to this message now. The more people who reply - the more chance the list has of being created. I look forward to talking to you all. CRAIG ===== u9118071@sys.uea.ac.uk ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 23:31:56 -0800 (PST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: OMD Mailing List To: kraftwerk Really-From: Sean Berry Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I would be very interested in joining an OMD mailing list. I have been a fan of theirs since 'Crush' and especially enjoy their earlier, more experimental period. Please keep me informed on progress of this potential group, either through e-mail or the Kraftwerk mailing list. Thanks, Sean n9130296@henson.cc.wwu.edu ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Wed, 15 Dec 93 04:00:13 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #229 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 15 Dec 93 Volume 1 : Issue 229 Today's Topics: Kraftwerk 'the mix' bootleg Kraftwerk singles ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Dec 93 10:52:21 CET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk 'the mix' bootleg To: kraftwerk Really-From: "Aart-Jan van Amerongen" Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I would be interested to know if anyone has information on the availability (since it is a bootleg I realise it is better to speak of 'availibility') of a bootleg recording that originated after the release of the Kraftwerk 'the mix' album. The dutch magazine for electronic music 'KLEM' featured an article on this bootleg, stating that it contained some interesting remixes of the mix in a quality that is very good for a bootleg recording. Any information on the bootleg or how to obtain a copy from this bootleg-CD is more than welcome! /***************************************************************\ * " E-mail?: * * I got in a very strange psychic situation. * * A kind of dreamworld appeared, * * a feeling of oneness with the world. * * A very strange experience which reminded me... * * Some experience I had in childhood. " * * * * Aart-Jan van Amerongen * * Zadelstraat 35 bis * * 3511 LS UTRECHT * * Tel. +31 (0) 30 367744 * * E-mail: A.J.vanAmerongen@stud.let.ruu.nl) * * * \***************************************************************/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Dec 93 19:36:16 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk singles To: kraftwerk Really-From: saxtherapy@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu While going through some boxes of records that I haven't looked at in years, I found I have four extra copies of Kraftwerk promo singles of Radioactivity, US pressing with pic sleeve, mono on one side, stereo on other and four extras of Pocket Calculator b/w Dentaku on yellow vinyl also promo w pic sleeve. I' willing to sell or trade. If interested e-mail to saxtherapy@aol.com ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 04:00:12 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #230 Kraftwerk Digest Thu, 16 Dec 93 Volume 1 : Issue 230 Today's Topics: OMD Mailing List Subscribe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 11:11:37 -0800 (PST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: OMD Mailing List To: kraftwerk Really-From: Jonathan Komar Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I would be most interested in joining such a group. I've just completed my OMD CD colection with "Architecture and Morality" and I have almost all of the b-sides available, so I'd be most interested in any rare remixes that might be available. Please sign me up when this gets underway!!!! Jonathan Komar ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Dec 93 22:06:00 -0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Subscribe To: kraftwerk Really-From: dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl (Dolf Wiemer) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Susbscribe digest ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dolf Wiemer = dolf.wiemer@hacom.wlink.nl = +31 (0)8389-13576 + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ---- HACOM BBS, Amersfoort, The Netherlands. -31-33-803610/801882/806321. Gateway to Internet, Fidonet, Compuserve, AT&T, MCI, America Online, Bitnet, Delphi, GEnie and Prodigy. Support site for many software authors. ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Fri, 17 Dec 93 04:00:13 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #231 Kraftwerk Digest Fri, 17 Dec 93 Volume 1 : Issue 231 Today's Topics: OMD Mailing List (2 msgs) unsubscribe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 00:46:45 -1000 (HST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: OMD Mailing List To: kraftwerk Really-From: Jim Newsham Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I joined this list kind of out of curiosity.. I don't know kraftwerk all that well (I bought computer world one day just to see what it was about.. turns out I had heard perhaps three if not more songs on the radio before). I thought the album was a little interesting, but somewhat boring (meaning I can't listen to it very often at all). Can someone list their later albums with dates? And give me an indication of how they compare, perhaps naming some of their more popular songs that I may have heard. Out of curiosity, how many people are subscribed to this list? The traffic is pretty slow.. maybe not everyone can appreciate Kraftwerk? And one more question: "Who is OMD?" I just hate when I hear a band name everywhere and don't know what it is. ciao, JN ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 11:36:10 -0600 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: OMD Mailing List To: kraftwerk Really-From: "C. David Holloway" Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu About kraftwerk albums...check out Electric Cafe (1986). A popular song was "The Telephone Call". Also, if you watched Saturday Night Live back in the late 80s (I believe they still show this every now and then) there was a segment called Sprockets and the theme somg was "Electric Cafe" (at 45rpm). The latest album that I know of is The Mix (1991). It is a collection of 11 songs all remixed. I personally like both of these albums better than Computer worl Computer World because of the beats in the other two albums. Anyway, check those two out. I don't think you'll be disappointed. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 19:04:49 -0500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: unsubscribe To: kraftwerk Really-From: Adrian Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu unsubscribe ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Sun, 19 Dec 93 04:00:12 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #232 Kraftwerk Digest Sun, 19 Dec 93 Volume 1 : Issue 232 Today's Topics: Aktivitaet, New album??? Aktivitaet in the US! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 20:56:40 +0000 (GMT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Aktivitaet, New album??? To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@care2.uab.es (Pepe Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hello guys! It's been a looooong time since my last post to the list. Seems people is asking several questions about Aktivitaet, the unofficial KW fanzine. Ian Calder is the publisher, in Scotland. I posted to this list several times the address for the fanzine and even the contents of several issues. So if you are very much into KW, you should get the fanzine, specially if you collect records. I don't know if I remember the address by heart. I'll give it a try: AKTIVITAET 108 Cummings Park Crescent ... no, I don't remember it now, sorry. Anyway, last news I got from Ian were issue 5 should be out this month. If you want to get the 'zine, you should write to Ian, ** enclosing an IRC ** for a reply. Seems there were some rumours about a new KW album? Well, I've been told about rumours of a new single and album by KW, the single being "Rendezvous / The Inspector" ?????? The film Breakdance included the track TdF, but KW did not agree to the inclusion of the track on the soundtrack album of the film, but instead a 12" and 7" were released with a very good remix of the track by Kevorkian. Some sleeves wore the text "as featured on the Breakdance film" or sth. like that. TdF has recently been made available on CD for the first time. It's in a German dance compilation. Sorry but I don't have the details with me now. It is just a short version of the track: 3 minutes. That will be it for the moment, until the next connection. I'll only add: someone said that had access to a promo 10" of E.Music. I'd like to get a copy, if possible. In fact I'm looking for lots of KW 7" and 12". I have some stuff to trade: boot LPs and CDs, some official LPs (not the early albums!), and a few 7"s too. If anyone is interested in getting in touch with me about that: Jose Garcia Apartado 108 08202 SABADELL BARCELONA SPAIN I wish you all a happy and Kraftwerkish new year. Jose Garcia "Computer activity is in the net for you and me." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 21:08:39 +0000 (GMT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Aktivitaet in the US! To: kraftwerk Really-From: pepe@care2.uab.es (Pepe Garcia) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu It's me again! I forgot to mention that Fred Becker is doing the distribution of Aktivitaet for the US, so it might certainly be cheaper and easier for you people over there to get the fanzine. Again, I don't have the info here, but I did send his address to the list. Have a look at the back issues!!! Jose Garcia "Sonido electronico, decibel sintetico" ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 04:00:16 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #233 Kraftwerk Digest Mon, 20 Dec 93 Volume 1 : Issue 233 Today's Topics: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #232 RuckZuck, etc... Speaking of Ruckzuck . . . ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 17:29:30 -0400 (EDT) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #232 To: kraftwerk Really-From: DATman Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hello Jose, Thanks to Hillebrand for keeping us in touch with you. > It's been a looooong time since my last post to the list. No kidding, I trust all is well! > If you want to get the 'zine, you should write to Ian, ** enclosing an IRC ** > for a reply. I did receive information from Ian recently. I also posted the address a while back. > Seems there were some rumours about a new KW album? Well, I've been told about > rumours of a new single and album by KW, the single being "Rendezvous / The > Inspector" ?????? I am sure you saw the number which I posted: TOCP 7914 Japan Capitol. > The film Breakdance included the track TdF, but KW did not agree to the > inclusion of the track on the soundtrack album of the film, but instead > a 12" and 7" were released with a very good remix of the track by Kevorkian. > Some sleeves wore the text "as featured on the Breakdance film" or sth. like > that. > TdF has recently been made available on CD for the first time. It's in a > German dance compilation. Sorry but I don't have the details with me now. > It is just a short version of the track: 3 minutes. Let us know on this compilation when you find out the numbers! Have a nice holiday! Is this account useable for us to mail to you? > Jose Garcia > Apartado 108 > 08202 SABADELL > BARCELONA > SPAIN This is your snail mail address, yes! > I wish you all a happy and Kraftwerkish new year. And to you!!!.... > It's me again! > I forgot to mention that Fred Becker is doing the distribution of Aktivitaet > for the US, so it might certainly be cheaper and easier for you people over > there to get the fanzine. Again, I don't have the info here, but I did send > his address to the list. Have a look at the back issues!!! Post when you get the address, is it in NYC by chance. BTW, you did get the single of Lifestyle. I also have a new track from Plus 8 records with Fuse and LFO, quite good! ************************************************************************ * John M. Richey DATman * * jrichey@sitvxc.stevens-tech.edu (Vax/Vms) * * jrichey@gauss.stevens-tech.edu (NeXt) * * jrichey@menger.eecs.stevens-tech.edu (Sun/SGI) * * Stevens Institute of Technology * * Hoboken, NJ USA * ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 93 13:59:18 PST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: RuckZuck, etc... To: kraftwerk Really-From: swatch@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Brian Plume) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi. I am interested in buying the earlier albums of Kraftwerk. Is there anyone out there who knows of a record store where I can purchase them. (preferably via CREDIT CARD, since I don't like to send cash through the mail) I'm looking for Ralf und Florian, in particular, but anything earlier than Autobahn would be GREAT. It would make a GREAT HOLIDAY GIFT for me! hehehe (nothing like buying YOURSELF a present....those are the best kind becuz you know it's going to be GOOD!) Thanks in advance. Swatch ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 15:11:29 -0700 (MST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Speaking of Ruckzuck . . . To: kraftwerk Really-From: Lazlo Nibble Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Does anyone have a copy of Technocrats' cover of "Ruckzuck" they'd like to sell? (I'd prefer the CD-single.) -- Lazlo (lazlo@unm.edu) ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Wed, 22 Dec 93 04:00:16 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #234 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 22 Dec 93 Volume 1 : Issue 234 Today's Topics: Kraftwerk vintage photos (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Dec 93 19:18:17 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk vintage photos To: kraftwerk Really-From: saxtherapy@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Anybody on the list interested in some photos of their Chicago concert 1975? I'll make prints for your personal collection or for publication. E-mail saxtherapy@aol.com for details. I also have a few shots of Tangerine Dream and Can. Would also like to correspond with anyone about the good old days of German rock in general......BTW does anyone know if Florian Schneider has an e-mail address? I haven't communicated with him in many years and would like to get back in touch. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 23:47:14 -500 (EST) From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Kraftwerk vintage photos To: kraftwerk Really-From: Gabriel Yedid Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu On Tue, 21 Dec 1993, kraftwerk mailing list wrote: > Really-From: saxtherapy@aol.com > Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > > German rock in general......BTW does anyone know if Florian Schneider has an > e-mail address? I haven't communicated with him in many years and would like > to get back in touch. You didn't know? It's florian@manmachine.robot.com :-) No, seriously. He probably does, but like everything else about him, it's a secret. Gabe ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Fri, 24 Dec 93 04:00:13 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #235 Kraftwerk Digest Fri, 24 Dec 93 Volume 1 : Issue 235 Today's Topics: kraftwerk covers Radioactivity cover ... (2 msgs) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 23 Dec 93 19:38:08 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: kraftwerk covers To: kraftwerk Really-From: saxtherapy@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Is there a place where I can find a listing of all Krftwerk tunes covered by other bands? Since I started reading this list, I find there are many more than I realized. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 93 13:21:25 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Radioactivity cover ... To: kraftwerk Really-From: prabhu@unix1.cs.umass.edu (rajesh prabhu) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Being in one of my more adventurous music-hunting moods, I got this cut-out CD by a group called Trauma - "Fractal I". Have to admit that seeing "Radio-Aktivitat" on the song list did help me make up my mind ! According to the liner notes, Trauma are Volker Zacharias on vocals/guitars and Hauke Harms - keyboards/programming, and the CD is on Machinery records ( the US release that is ). The Radioactivity cover itself is pretty faithful to the original version, and the lyrics are those for the English version ( Q. Are the lyrics for the German version all in German ? ), and I'll take this over the "Mix" version ( but that's just my preference! ). All in all a great cover. The rest of the CD is original work of the artists, mostly instrumental and very much like ClockDVA, though a little less intense. Anybody know about any other releases by these guys ? -- Rajesh ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Dec 93 13:32:22 +45722724 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Radioactivity cover ... To: kraftwerk Really-From: (Chris.Hilker) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >Really-From: prabhu@unix1.cs.umass.edu (rajesh prabhu) >Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu > The Radioactivity cover itself is pretty faithful to the original version, >and the lyrics are those for the English version ( Q. Are the lyrics for the >German version all in German ? ), Trans-Europa Express/Trans-Europe Express was the first KW album to have seperate English and German versions, as far as I know. C. -- (chris.hilker) cspot@cats.ucsc.edu ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Mon, 27 Dec 93 23:10:40 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #236 Kraftwerk Digest Mon, 27 Dec 93 Volume 1 : Issue 236 Today's Topics: classic electronics Radioactivity cover ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 27 Dec 93 01:54:39 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: classic electronics To: kraftwerk Really-From: saxtherapy@aol.com Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu I would like to correspond with anyone who is interested in the classic electronic music of the 50's and 60's:Stockhausen,Schaeffer, Henry, Berio, Reich, Cage as well as the progressive and electronic music of the 70's from Germany. Klaus Schulze, Cosmic Jokers, Ash Ra Tempel, Achim Reichel, Neu, Cluster, Harmonia and the like. I'm interested in buying, selling or trading records of that genre. I have a hypercard catalog of my collection that lists the titles of all the tunes on all the records as well as names and instruments of all the personnel. If you're interested in recieving it w rite me an e-mail= saxtherapy@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Dec 93 9:20:34 MET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Radioactivity cover ... To: kraftwerk Really-From: pg@login.dkuug.dk (Per Goetterup) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu kraftwerk mailing list writes: > >Really-From: prabhu@unix1.cs.umass.edu (rajesh prabhu) > >Being in one of my more adventurous music-hunting moods, I got this cut-out >CD by a group called Trauma - "Fractal I". Have to admit that seeing >"Radio-Aktivitat" on the song list did help me make up my mind ! > > According to the liner notes, Trauma are Volker Zacharias on vocals/guitars >and Hauke Harms - keyboards/programming, and the CD is on Machinery records >( the US release that is ). Machinery Records is a Berlin (Germany) based label so it's also Machinery Records that releases Trauma here in Europe. > > The rest of the CD is original work of the artists, mostly instrumental and >very much like ClockDVA, though a little less intense. > > Anybody know about any other releases by these guys ? No, this is (as far as I know) the debut release from these guys. The cover pics (inside) of the two guys is very Kraftwerk+ClockDVA-ish as well, and I must say that I really like this CD. FYI: Trauma / "Fractal I" - MA 40-2 - Machinery Records 1993. 10 tracks. Total running time: 52 mins 31 secs. "Radioaktivitat" is track 9 - Length 5:17 (Notice: German title) Machinery Records is usually a techno/industrial label, releasing stuff ranging from Depeche Mode-ish pop to cross-over metal/industrial (none of the new bleepish tekkno though!). And now this (the first softer / instrumental-like material). They have seperated the most hardcore stuff out on a sublabel now (called Dynamica Records) and this might be an indication that Machinery itself goes towards more softer stuff. I don't know. Let's wait and see. - Per. -- < Per Goetterup "No tears please! > < Student, DIKU It's a waste of good suffering!" > < TechnoVision Software, Denmark -Pinhead- > < Internet: pg@login.dkuug.dk, FidoNet: 2:231/91.10 (Hellraiser) > ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Wed, 29 Dec 93 04:00:14 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #237 Kraftwerk Digest Wed, 29 Dec 93 Volume 1 : Issue 237 Today's Topics: Klaus Shultz & YMO Ruckzuck covers ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 28 Dec 93 17:45:34 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Klaus Shultz & YMO To: kraftwerk Really-From: eric@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu (Eric J. Hansen) Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hiya - I was poking around the CD bins at the local Newbury Comics store today (in Boston, MA), and I saw a bunch of albums by Klaus Shultz. I've seen the name here a few times before, so I figured it would be O.K. to ask for more info here in the list. (and please forgive me if he's a former KW'er -- I can't seem to recall, though...) What kind of music does he do? The albums were in the New Age section... Also, has anyone gotten the new remix album of Yellow Magic Orchestra originals? If so, is it "new techno" (yuk!) or original, "minimal" (i.e., KW) techno? Thanks (sorry for being a little off the topic...) Eric *---------------------------------------------------------------------* | Eric J. Hansen .................... eric@enterprise.bih.harvard.edu | | Princeton Transportation Consulting Group, Inc. .... Burlington, MA | *---------------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Dec 93 11:27:34 MET From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: Ruckzuck covers To: kraftwerk Really-From: Lars Nellemann Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu >Does anyone have a copy of Technocrats' cover of "Ruckzuck" they'd like >to sell? (I'd prefer the CD-single.) >Lazlo (lazlo@unm.edu) How strange to see this message - I was just going to post a request for further info on this group. At my Christmas hollyday in Germany I picked up the mentioned CDsingle for 3 DM (2 $) - I guess I should have picked up one more for Lazlo - I'm sorry - I'm not going to sell it - unless I get a very good offer!! Heres Some info on the CDsingle: Technocrat.s : Ruckzuck (Dusseldorf - Nottingham - Sheffield) Tracks: Ruckzuck - Dusseldorf #3 Ruckzuck - Nottingham #1 Ruckzuck - Sheffield #1 Ruckzuck - Dusseldorf #1 ....zuck - Sheffield #4 Ruckzuck - Dusseldorf #2 Composer Data: Hutter/Schneider Music Data : Dorper/Gamble/Gordon/Kirk/Schmidt A boing boom tschakk production Presented with this info - I had to buy it - I new nothing about the group but it sounded like it must have something to do with Kraftwerk. Can anyone give me further info on the Technocrat.s - have they done more Kraftwerk covers - or more music in this very Kraftverkish style? Recently there was a request for a list for the cover versions of KW Stuff - I'll be interested in such a list too - I can only provide this: Ride: The Model (from Ruby tracks) OMD: Neonlight Balanescu Quartet and the above mentioned Technocrats Have you noticed the Ambient dance compilations taking names from KW tunes - first the "Trance europe express" and now the "Tour de Trance" compilation!!! Happy new year from Lars nellemann nelleman@biobase.aau.dk -- ***************************************** * Lars Nellemann * * University of Copenhagen * * Copenhagen, Denmark * * nelleman@biobase.aau.dk * * FAX: +45 3532 6120 * ***************************************** ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ****************************** Date: Fri, 31 Dec 93 04:00:17 CST From: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Reply-To: kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu (Kraftwerk) Subject: Kraftwerk Digest V1 #238 Kraftwerk Digest Fri, 31 Dec 93 Volume 1 : Issue 238 Today's Topics: subscribe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 30 Dec 93 18:21:48 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) Subject: subscribe To: kraftwerk Really-From: Ho-Suk Lee Requests for add/removal from this list to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Hi... How do i join? f93-hle@nada.kth.se ------------------------------ End of Kraftwerk Digest ******************************