From kraftwerk-request Mon Mar 1 09:32:53 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA23200 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 1 Mar 1993 02:36:56 -0600 Message-Id: <199303010836.AA23200@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA23185 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 1 Mar 1993 02:36:44 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVAF3LTAKG9GV6TI@cc.uab.es>; Mon, 1 Mar 1993 09:32:53 GMT+0100 Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 09:32:53 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Poll: send your votes! Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia For those of you who missed the mail and the ones that still haven't sent your votes, here are the questions of the poll. Send your votes to: pepeg@ctivax.uab.es Questions: 1) Best KW album 2) Best KW song 3) Second best KW song 4) Third best KW song 5) Best mix from "The Mix" 6) Have you attended any KW gig? What's been the best one? 7) Do you have all the KW albums (on record, tape or whatever)? (1, 2, R&Florian, Autobahn, R-Activity, T E Express, M Machine, C World, E Cafe) 8) Name 3 other of your favourite bands (no matter what music style) Please e-mail directly to me your answers, before the 5th of March: pepeg@ctivax.uab.es I'll post the results the 8th. Jose Garcia pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Mon Mar 1 12:28:37 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA15703 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 1 Mar 1993 05:29:48 -0600 Message-Id: <199303011129.AA15703@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA15272 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 1 Mar 1993 05:29:32 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVAL7V5PLS9D4P4P@cc.uab.es>; Mon, 1 Mar 1993 12:28:37 GMT+0100 Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 12:28:37 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Florian project? Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia I've heard from someone that Florian has done some solo project and that it is called "Alice in Wonderland " (???). I've been told it will be released this week (not in Spain, of course). I've also heard that the Elektric Music "tv" single will be released this week. Anyone has more news, specially about the Florian project ??? Jose Garcia pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Mon Mar 1 04:02:36 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA29770 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 1 Mar 1993 08:16:56 -0600 Message-Id: <199303011416.AA29770@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from dgbt.banyan.doc.ca ([142.92.36.75]) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA29758 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 1 Mar 1993 08:16:42 -0600 Received: by dgbt.banyan.doc.ca with VINES ; Mon, 1 Mar 93 09:12:49 EST Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 09:02:36 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: She's a what? X-Old-Cc: Status: O Really-From: Richard=Paiement%DCN%DGBT=CRC=ADMSR@dgbt.banyan.doc.ca I've seen two posters use the following two lyric quotes... - She's a module and she's looking good ^^^^^^ - She's a modem and she's looking good ^^^^^ Now, since this line comes from the song The Model, wouldn't it make a bit more sense if it was... - She's a model and she's looking good. ^^^^^ Am I being too picky? Someone please tell me if I'm wasting my time here. I thought the list was for Kraftwerk fans. Sorry for being negative in my first post. /+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\ (( Richard V. Paiement, M.Eng. Internet: )) (( richard.paiement@crc.doc.ca )) (( Communications Research Centre )) (( Ottawa Ontario K2H 8S2 CANADA Facsimile: +1 613 993 9950 )) \+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++/ From kraftwerk-request Mon Mar 1 08:23:41 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA00525 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 1 Mar 1993 08:23:47 -0600 Message-Id: <199303011423.AA00525@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from ee.tut.fi by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA00511 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 1 Mar 1993 08:23:41 -0600 Received: from sievert.ee.tut.fi by ee.tut.fi; id AA10793; Mon, 1 Mar 1993 16:23:33 +0200 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Tour de France Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 16:23:31 EET X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: O Really-From: jhsa@ee.tut.fi (Salmij{rvi Janne) Does TdF exist on CD ? I guess that on some livebootlegs but as a CDsingle with possible remixes ? Please tell it exists so I can go hunting for it :) Otherwise just more wishful thinking on my side :( 'Life kills.' JS From kraftwerk-request Mon Mar 1 16:23:32 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA06518 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 1 Mar 1993 09:24:26 -0600 Message-Id: <199303011524.AA06518@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA06502 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 1 Mar 1993 09:24:15 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVATFQLRWW9D5S6L@cc.uab.es>; Mon, 1 Mar 1993 16:23:32 GMT+0100 Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1993 16:23:32 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Re: She's a what? Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia She's a model, of course. I've always take it as sort of a joke :-) For people who English is not the first language, might be understable. Welcome aboard. Keep those votes coming!!! So far only 15 votes, and we are more than 50. Jose Garcia pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Mon Mar 1 06:09:28 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA25242 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 1 Mar 1993 16:09:30 -0600 Message-Id: <199303012209.AA25242@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from june.cs.washington.edu by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA25216 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 1 Mar 1993 16:09:23 -0600 Received: by june.cs.washington.edu (5.65b/7.1ju) id AA14491; Mon, 1 Mar 93 14:09:28 -0800 Date: Mon, 1 Mar 93 14:09:28 -0800 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Return-Path: Subject: semi-info on Elektric Music Status: O Really-From: karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty) (Eric:) > one of all on the 10th anniversary CD. Also, I am starting ot really like > _Baby Come Back_...(some copies did make their way to the US ;-)! ) What's "Baby Come Back"? ...have anything to do with Elektric Music? (TV:) > Richard Karty saw a copy on 12". Richard, any more details? Was it from > Germany? Was it a promo item? It *was* from Germany; it *wasn't* a promo. I don't remember the label but I remember it had two label names: one, I assumed to be a small independent label; the other was a big big name like Warner or EMI. I'll check next time I'm in the store but they only had two copies so they're probably gone. BTW - I can't believe how erratic the shops are here. At this same store, they told me that 808 State do NOT have a new album, when I had already bought it (Gorgeous) at a very dull chain store a few days before! Richard From kraftwerk-request Tue Mar 2 04:34:53 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA26862 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Tue, 2 Mar 1993 08:36:51 -0600 Message-Id: <199303021436.AA26862@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CMS.CC.WAYNE.EDU by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA26848 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 2 Mar 1993 08:36:46 -0600 Received: from CMS.CC.WAYNE.EDU by CMS.CC.WAYNE.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6976; Tue, 02 Mar 93 09:39:11 EST Received: from WAYNEST1 (NJE origin EIVERSO@WAYNEST1) by CMS.CC.WAYNE.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 4023; Tue, 2 Mar 1993 09:39:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 02 Mar 93 09:34:53 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Re: semi-info on Elektric Music In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 1 Mar 93 14:09:28 -0800 Status: O Really-From: Eric On Mon, 1 Mar 93 14:09:28 -0800 you said: >Really-From: karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty) > >What's "Baby Come Back"? ...have anything to do with Elektric Music? Yes... It's the third song on the Crosstalk CD EP. It's a cover of the Eddie Grant song. Cracks me up every time I hear it. :) --Eric "She is amoral and she's looking good" From kraftwerk-request Tue Mar 2 17:00:55 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA03549 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Tue, 2 Mar 1993 10:01:51 -0600 Message-Id: <199303021601.AA03549@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA03528 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 2 Mar 1993 10:01:40 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVC93U03E89D5U1G@cc.uab.es>; Tue, 2 Mar 1993 17:00:55 GMT+0100 Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1993 17:00:55 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Re: Tour de France Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia > Really-From: jhsa@ee.tut.fi (Salmij{rvi Janne) > > Does TdF exist on CD ? I guess that on some livebootlegs but as a CDsingle Tour de France has only been released on 7" and 12", and that was a few years ago! :( Jose Garcia pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Wed Mar 3 11:07:56 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA21866 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Wed, 3 Mar 1993 04:09:21 -0600 Message-Id: <199303031009.AA21866@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA21855 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 3 Mar 1993 04:08:59 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVDAXGDXIO9GV7LD@cc.uab.es>; Wed, 3 Mar 1993 11:07:56 GMT+0100 Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1993 11:07:56 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: A full KW discography to be won Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia It will be raffled amongst all the people who send votes for the poll. Here are, once more the questions: 1) Best KW album 2) Best KW song 3) Second best KW song 4) Third best KW song 5) Best mix from "The Mix" 6) Have you attended any KW gig? What's been the best one? 7) Do you have all the KW albums (on record, tape or whatever)? (1, 2, R&Florian, Autobahn, R-Activity, T E Express, M Machine, C World, E Cafe) 8) Name 3 other of your favourite bands (no matter what music style) Please e-mail directly to me your answers, before the 5th of March: pepeg@ctivax.uab.es I'll post the results the 8th. PS: the discography will be delivered to the winner before the year 2100 :-) Send your votes anyway, cause this is a very interesting poll. Only 21 votes so far. Jose Garcia pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Wed Mar 3 16:24:43 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA06204 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Wed, 3 Mar 1993 16:24:59 -0600 Message-Id: <199303032224.AA06204@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from sunic.sunet.se by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA06184 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 3 Mar 1993 16:24:43 -0600 Received: from ume.cs.umu.se by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8-/1.28) id AA00492; Wed, 3 Mar 1993 23:24:37 +0100 Received: from ersboda.cs.umu.se by ume.cs.umu.se (5.65+bind 1.7+ida 1.4.2/91-02-01) id AA02341; Wed, 3 Mar 93 23:24:36 +0100, auth dvlawm X-Auth-From: dvlawm Received: by ersboda.cs.umu.se (5.65+bind 1.7+ida 1.4.2/91-02-01) id AA21251; Wed, 3 Mar 93 23:24:33 +0100 Return-Path: From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Musique Nonstop video objects. Date: Wed, 3 Mar 93 23:24:31 MET X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: O Really-From: dvlawm@cs.umu.se I'm desperatly seeking the objects that were used in Musique Nonstop. I'm most interested in the heads objects (preferably Ralf... :-) ). /anders -- *************************************************************************** * Anders Wilhelm * em: dvlawm@cs.umu.se * "I program my Home-computer, * * Umea University * trafo@unitech.se * feel myself into the future" * * Sweden * * -Florian Schneider, 1981 * *************************************************************************** From kraftwerk-request Thu Mar 4 16:23:44 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA17547 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Thu, 4 Mar 1993 09:30:59 -0600 Message-Id: <199303041530.AA17547@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA17483 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 4 Mar 1993 09:30:31 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVEZO708E89D65IM@cc.uab.es>; Thu, 4 Mar 1993 16:23:44 GMT+0100 Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 16:23:44 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: KW bootlegs Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia I got this question with the answers to the poll: > (Would you happen to know how I could go about finding good sounding > Kraftwerk bootlegs? They seem to be really scarce over here. What > do you consider to be the best sounding ones? > > Thanks, > Michael As your favourite KW era is the early one, you should get hold of a copy of the earliest KW show pressed on record: Live Koln 71 (LP pic. disc, Italy, limited edt. 250 copies) Quite a good sound for a recording this old. Don't remember the tracks rigth now, but I think it has a long rendition of Ruckzuck. There's a very good one from 75, from a broadcast, on CD. Then, from the C. World era, IMO the best one is "Numbers". It's one CD that lasts about 73', with a great performance and great sound, recorded in Japan, and released in Japan too (this seems to be very very rare, I've read in AKTIVITAT it is a limited edition of 100 copies. Don't know if it's true). "computers in love" is also a good one from C. World. Has the full show, with some slights edits I think. Quite good sound. There's a 2LP boot from the 20th anniversary tour (they only did some gigs in Italy) with a nive cover. The sound is quite good, though not the best one, and has the first try outs of the versions that later made it onto "the mix". I can get some copies of this one, by the way. I think it's limited to 1000 copies. There's a version of this concert available as a 2 CD set, called "rimini rimini". >From "The Mix" tour, the best ones are: "N 1 to Zurich" and "Rebuilt in 91". "N 1..." has the best sound I've heard, though is a 1 CD (not the complete performance). "Rebuilt" is a 2 CD set, available as 2 separate parts. The sound is excellent and has the complete show from Dusseldorf, plus some bonus tracks (studio remixes, razormaid and the like, and a demo version of the "techno pop" 83 version, very different to the one that appeared in E. Cafe). I might be able to get a copy of this 2 CD set (it's expensive, by the way). There are more boots, from the 81 and the 91 tours. I'll try and do a more comprehensive review of all these boots, if there's interest on it. PS: please send your votes for the poll, those of you who still haven't done so !!! Jose Garcia "Musica electronica, figura ritmica, pepeg@ctivax.uab.es arte, politica, en la era atomica" -Electric Cafe- From kraftwerk-request Thu Mar 4 18:31:24 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA01001 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Thu, 4 Mar 1993 11:33:11 -0600 Message-Id: <199303041733.AA01001@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA00958 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 4 Mar 1993 11:32:50 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVF4TWJPWW9D5ZMS@cc.uab.es>; Thu, 4 Mar 1993 18:31:24 GMT+0100 Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1993 18:31:24 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Poll: you can still vote !!! Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: IN::"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia Here are again the questions for the poll. Questions: 1) Best KW album 2) Best KW song 3) Second best KW song 4) Third best KW song 5) Best mix from "The Mix" 6) Have you attended any KW gig? What's been the best one? 7) Do you have all the KW albums (on record, tape or whatever)? (1, 2, R&Florian, Autobahn, R-Activity, T E Express, M Machine, C World, E Cafe) 8) Name 3 other of your favourite bands (no matter what style) Please e-mail directly to me your answers, before the 5th of March: pepeg@ctivax.uab.es I'll take votes actually until the 8th. Please vote if you haven't done so already. This is a very interesting thing. Jose Garcia pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Thu Mar 4 11:12:04 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA10905 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Thu, 4 Mar 1993 17:12:18 -0600 Message-Id: <199303042312.AA10905@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from ccu.umanitoba.ca by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA10886 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 4 Mar 1993 17:12:12 -0600 Received: from pollux.cc.umanitoba.ca by ccu.UManitoba.CA (4.1/25-eef) id AA01749; Thu, 4 Mar 93 17:12:07 CST Received: by pollux.cc.umanitoba.ca (4.1/25-eef) id AA26546; Thu, 4 Mar 93 17:12:07 CST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Re: KW bootlegs Date: Thu, 4 Mar 93 17:12:04 CST In-Reply-To: <199303041530.AA17547@cs.uwp.edu>; from "kraftwerk mailing list" at Mar 4, 93 4:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: O Really-From: umcordes@ccu.UManitoba.CA Hi. You guys are talking about all these KW releases that are available and it's driving me crazy as I can't find any of these where I am. Does anyone know where I can get/order copies of these albums? I prefer CD, but I'll buy vinyl if it's not available on CD. Thanks! From kraftwerk-request Fri Mar 5 10:15:13 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA24902 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Fri, 5 Mar 1993 03:17:21 -0600 Message-Id: <199303050917.AA24902@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA24877 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 5 Mar 1993 03:16:42 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVG1OGQUZ49D5R5M@cc.uab.es>; Fri, 5 Mar 1993 10:15:14 GMT+0100 Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1993 10:15:13 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Re: KW bootlegs Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia > Really-From: umcordes@ccu.UManitoba.CA > > Hi. You guys are talking about all these KW releases that are available > and it's driving me crazy as I can't find any of these where I am. Does > anyone know where I can get/order copies of these albums? I prefer CD, > but I'll buy vinyl if it's not available on CD. Thanks! Well, don't know their availability in the US... I might be able to get some of them. They are expensive though. The ones I've seen copies of are: return of die mensch maschine (1990 tour, Bologna, 2LP) rebuilt in 91 (Dusseldorf, 2 x 1CD) ??? (1981 tour, Firenze, 1CD) (don't remember the title!!!) If you cannot find them I might be able to help. Remember they are expensive !! Jose Garcia pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Fri Mar 5 04:00:14 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA02620 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Fri, 5 Mar 1993 08:31:04 -0600 Message-Id: <199303051431.AA02620@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from dgbt.banyan.doc.ca ([142.92.36.75]) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA02581 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 5 Mar 1993 08:30:55 -0600 Received: by dgbt.banyan.doc.ca with VINES ; Fri, 5 Mar 93 09:27:22 EST Date: Fri, 5 Mar 93 09:00:14 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Answer to: Where to find boots? X-Old-Cc: Status: O Really-From: Richard=Paiement%DCN%DGBT=CRC=ADMSR@dgbt.banyan.doc.ca asks... > Hi. You guys are talking about all these KW releases that are available > and it's driving me crazy as I can't find any of these where I am. Does > anyone know where I can get/order copies of these albums? I prefer CD, > but I'll buy vinyl if it's not available on CD. Thanks! I assume most or all collectors on this list are aware of the obvious sources for bootlegs and other collectables, but for those who don't know, here are a few suggestions. 1. 'Record Collector' - A UK monthly magazine with adverts from stores and individuals selling or wanting to buy anything and everything. IMHO this magazine features the largest, most interesting selection for collectors of popular music (rock, alternative, punk, etc...) from the last 20 years or so. >From a North American perspective, my only complaint concerning this magazine is that it can be expensive to buy (I pay around CDN$7.00), and the items for sale in it can be quite expensive, given the cost of postage from Europe. 2. 'Goldmine' - This US newspaper-style magazine published every two weeks (me thinks) is the second biggest source of items to buy, AFAIAC. It features lots of serious adverts from stores, collectors, and a few individuals. It also caters to collectors of older material (50's, Elvis, Beatles, ...). I find it features interesting articles, and is a good read. 3. 'DISCoveries' - Another US newspaper-style magazine published every months (me thinks again; this is getting dangerous). This one has less adverts from stores, and mostly adverts from individuals. I really hate it because these people place adverts listing items in no particular order. Try finding a Kraftwerk item among 1000 others on one page. I actually don't buy it anymore for this reason. However, if you have nothing better to do, you WILL for sure find gems for sale. 4. Record Conventions - My most prized purchases were done at record conventions, but you have to wait for them to show up, and in my area this is once a year. 5. Record Stores - This depends alot on the stores in your area, but my experience is that of all 5 sources suggested, this one is the least interesting. I realize this has nothing to do with Kraftwerk per se, but it might help others. If I forgot anything, please e-mail me. /+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++\ (( Richard V. Paiement, M.Eng. Internet: )) (( Research Engineer richard.paiement@crc.doc.ca )) (( Communications Research Centre )) (( Ottawa Ontario K2H 8S2 CANADA Facsimile: +1 613 993 9950 )) \+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++/ From kraftwerk-request Fri Mar 5 17:07:43 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA12651 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Fri, 5 Mar 1993 10:09:02 -0600 Message-Id: <199303051609.AA12651@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA12617 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 5 Mar 1993 10:08:44 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVGFUMEW689D5YFZ@cc.uab.es>; Fri, 5 Mar 1993 17:07:43 GMT+0100 Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1993 17:07:43 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Elektric Music: new releases Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia I hope the bits of info about the KW bootlegs were useful. I insist that if there's interest in more info, I can write a more comprehensive bootlegs review. Well, here are the latest news about the NEW Elektric Music SINGLE. I've just got a letter from Ian Calder in which he confirms his availability: CD single 12" single 12" picture disc (!!!!!) Mini Disc (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) 10" promo single (still to confirm) Now, where are all these singles ??? I'll transcribe Ian's review of the single: "... I think it is an excellent song. Very melodic with very nice Kraftwerk-ish sounds (rhythmically reminiscent of the Mix version of 'Music non stop'. Also some nice 'choir' type sounds flitting around in the background - similar in feel to the 'Radioactivity' period (i.e. 'Uranium') ) but with its own identity, mainly due to the singing (real singing - not vocoder!) and even unusually perceptive lyrics ('watch the war / on the screen / it is safe / it is clean'). I personally think that it is a much stronger release than 'Crosstalk'." (Ian Calder, responsible for the AKTIVITAT fanzine). Well, sounds good. Now I'd like to know by myself !!! Jose Garcia pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Fri Mar 5 06:27:30 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA14710 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Fri, 5 Mar 1993 10:28:21 -0600 Message-Id: <199303051628.AA14710@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CMS.CC.WAYNE.EDU by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA14692 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 5 Mar 1993 10:28:15 -0600 Received: from CMS.CC.WAYNE.EDU by CMS.CC.WAYNE.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0604; Fri, 05 Mar 93 11:30:44 EST Received: from WAYNEST1 (NJE origin EIVERSO@WAYNEST1) by CMS.CC.WAYNE.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 2236; Fri, 5 Mar 1993 11:30:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 05 Mar 93 11:27:30 EST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Re: Elektric Music: new releases In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 5 Mar 1993 17:07:43 GMT+0100 Status: O Really-From: Eric On Fri, 5 Mar 1993 17:07:43 GMT+0100 you said: >Really-From: Jose Garcia ... >Well, here are the latest news about the NEW Elektric Music SINGLE. I've >just got a letter from Ian Calder in which he confirms his availability: ... You neglected to mention the name of the single. What is it? Thanks! --Eric "she is amodal and she's looking good" From kraftwerk-request Fri Mar 5 17:36:39 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA15680 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Fri, 5 Mar 1993 10:37:01 -0600 Message-Id: <199303051637.AA15680@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA15649 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 5 Mar 1993 10:36:43 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVGH7I2J4G9GV98D@cc.uab.es>; Fri, 5 Mar 1993 17:36:39 GMT+0100 Date: Fri, 5 Mar 1993 17:36:39 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Re: Elektric Music: new releases Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia > Really-From: Eric > > You neglected to mention the name of the single. What is it? Sorry! I thought it was obvious. It's of course "TV". Good luck in your hunt. Jose Garcia pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Mon Mar 8 09:08:49 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA16230 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 8 Mar 1993 03:30:30 -0600 Message-Id: <199303080930.AA16230@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from chalmers.se by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA16197 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 8 Mar 1993 03:30:22 -0600 Received: from quarl0.etek.chalmers.se by chalmers.se (5.60+IDA/3.14+gl) id AA00377; Mon, 8 Mar 93 10:09:03 +0100 Received: by quarl0.etek.chalmers.se id AA01674; Mon, 8 Mar 93 10:09:01 +0100 Received: by quarl14.etek.chalmers.se id AA04580; Mon, 8 Mar 93 10:08:59 +0100 Subject: Computer World (updated release?) Date: Mon, 08 Mar 93 10:08:49 -0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request X-Mts: smtp Status: O Really-From: jorbor@etek.chalmers.se During their latest tour KW played a "The Mix" version of Computer World including the lines "KGB, CIA, Control, Data , Memory" instead of "Business, Numbers, Money, People". Does anyone know if this version has been released? Thanx, Jorgen Borjesson E-mail:jorbor@etek.chalmers.se "Music is organized noise" Ralf Huetter From kraftwerk-request Mon Mar 8 04:56:17 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA19531 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 8 Mar 1993 04:56:24 -0600 Message-Id: <199303081056.AA19531@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from urmel.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA19519 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 8 Mar 1993 04:56:17 -0600 Received: from damabus.informatik.rwth-aachen.de by urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (4.1/urmel-4) id AA17054; Mon, 8 Mar 93 11:56:11 +0100 Received: by damabus.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (16.8/POOL.1) id AA09282; Mon, 8 Mar 93 11:56:32 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Re: KW bootlegs Date: Mon, 8 Mar 93 11:56:32 MEZ In-Reply-To: <199303041530.AA17547@cs.uwp.edu>; from "kraftwerk mailing list" at Mar 4, 93 4:23 pm Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.30] Status: O Really-From: lupo@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de > > Really-From: Jose Garcia > > > As your favourite KW era is the early one, you should get hold of a copy > of the earliest KW show pressed on record: > > Live Koln 71 (LP pic. disc, Italy, limited edt. 250 copies) It's "Live Koeln" (My Hometown!) unfortunately I was too young then to attend KW Concert ;( > > Quite a good sound for a recording this old. Don't remember the tracks > rigth now, but I think it has a long rendition of Ruckzuck. > Well, I have seen that one in some shops.. if it is that good, Jose, I will go and buy, > > "computers in love" is also a good one from C. World. Has the full show, > with some slights edits I think. Quite good sound. > I personally think this one is worth buying. The quality is very good and the music is even better. I enjoy "Radioactivity" and "Robots" quite much. I think this one is much more enjoyable - compared to "Heute Abend" and "Rebuilt". > "Rebuilt" is a 2 CD set, available as 2 separate parts. The sound is excellent > and has the complete show from Dusseldorf, plus some bonus tracks (studio > remixes, razormaid and the like, and a demo version of the "techno pop" > 83 version, very different to the one that appeared in E. Cafe). I might be > able to get a copy of this 2 CD set (it's expensive, by the way). I regard this one as second best. The bonus tracks are quite nice. One is a complete medley of several KW songs. > > There are more boots, from the 81 and the 91 tours. I'll try and do a more > comprehensive review of all these boots, if there's interest on it. > Jose! Please do it! And don't forget where to buy the stuff.. > > Jose Garcia "Musica electronica, figura ritmica, > pepeg@ctivax.uab.es arte, politica, en la era atomica" -Electric Cafe- > -- Lutz From kraftwerk-request Mon Mar 8 11:57:07 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA19632 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 8 Mar 1993 04:59:44 -0600 Message-Id: <199303081059.AA19632@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA19595 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 8 Mar 1993 04:58:33 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVKC78GKQO9D62Y2@cc.uab.es>; Mon, 8 Mar 1993 11:57:07 GMT+0100 Date: Mon, 8 Mar 1993 11:57:07 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Re: Computer World (updated release?) Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia > Really-From: jorbor@etek.chalmers.se > > Does anyone know if this version has been released? Unfortunately no :( There were rumours about a release of a "The Mix 2" album, in 92. It seems this has been abandoned. The only way to get this song is by getting a bootleg from their last tour. Most of them, if not all, have this song, and some of this boots sound really *excellent*. Jose Garcia pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Mon Mar 8 16:16:54 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA10255 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 8 Mar 1993 16:17:06 -0600 Message-Id: <199303082217.AA10255@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from sunic.sunet.se by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA10216 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 8 Mar 1993 16:16:54 -0600 Received: from ume.cs.umu.se by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8-/1.28) id AA03168; Mon, 8 Mar 1993 23:16:04 +0100 Received: from fridhem.cs.umu.se by ume.cs.umu.se (5.65+bind 1.7+ida 1.4.2/91-02-01) id AA23364; Mon, 8 Mar 93 23:16:01 +0100, auth dvlawm X-Auth-From: dvlawm Received: by fridhem.cs.umu.se (5.65+bind 1.7+ida 1.4.2/91-02-01) id AA20244; Mon, 8 Mar 93 23:15:59 +0100 Return-Path: From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Recordnumber for Electrik Music - Television/TV Date: Mon, 8 Mar 93 23:15:58 MET X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: O Really-From: dvlawm@cs.umu.se Here in Sweden the lastest release from Electrik Music has been sold out. So therefor we are going to order it directly from Germany. I wounder if someone could mail me the recordnumber. Thanks in advance /anders -- *************************************************************************** * Anders Wilhelm * em: dvlawm@cs.umu.se * "I program my Home-computer, * * Umea University * trafo@unitech.se * feel myself into the future" * * Sweden * * -Florian Schneider, 1981 * *************************************************************************** From kraftwerk-request Tue Mar 9 10:32:29 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA29170 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Tue, 9 Mar 1993 02:34:05 -0600 Message-Id: <199303090834.AA29170@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from charon.cwi.nl by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA29157 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Mar 1993 02:33:57 -0600 Received: from gans.cwi.nl by charon.cwi.nl with SMTP id AA29051 (5.65b/3.8/CWI-Amsterdam); Tue, 9 Mar 1993 09:32:29 +0100 Received: by gans.cwi.nl with SMTP id AA28184 (5.65b/3.5/CWI-Amsterdam); Tue, 9 Mar 1993 09:32:29 +0100 Subject: Re: Recordnumber for Electrik Music - Television/TV In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 08 Mar 1993 23:15:58 MET." <199303082217.AA10255@cs.uwp.edu> Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1993 09:32:29 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Status: O Really-From: Peter de Waal Hier ist das Deutsche Fernsehen mit der Tageschau: In message <199303082217.AA10255@cs.uwp.edu>you write: > Here in Sweden the lastest release from Electrik Music has been sold out. > So therefor we are going to order it directly from Germany. I wounder > if someone could mail me the recordnumber. The catalog numbers are CDS 055-92673 (CD single) and MS 050-95675 (musicassette?) on SPV records. --- Peter de Waal, CWI, Amsterdam --- "I hope you have been blessed by this message" From kraftwerk-request Tue Mar 9 10:04:01 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA03349 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Tue, 9 Mar 1993 03:53:46 -0600 Message-Id: <199303090953.AA03349@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA03335 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Mar 1993 03:53:33 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVLMK6Y0JK9D66CB@cc.uab.es>; Tue, 9 Mar 1993 10:04:03 GMT+0100 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1993 10:04:01 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Poll: RESULTS Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: IN::"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + KRAFTWERK POLL - RESULTS + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Questions: 1) Best KW album 2) Best KW song 3) Second best KW song 4) Third best KW song 5) Best mix from "The Mix" 6) Have you attended any KW gig? What's been the best one? 7) Do you have all the KW albums (on record, tape or whatever)? (1, 2, R&Florian, Autobahn, R-Activity, T E Express, M Machine, C World, E Cafe) 8) Name 3 other of your favourite bands (no matter what music style). A few comments: Originally, "The Mix" was not considered as a normal album, but a compilation or "best of", though it's not exactly that. Very few people voted for this album or songs from this album. I've made no distinction between versions from single or album (this applies to the "best mix from The Mix"). Where present, quantities between brackets are %. For the "best, second best, third best song", I've given 3, 2 and 1 point for each of the answered song. ===================== Number of votes: 32 =========================================================================== 1) Best KW album =========================================================================== The Man Machine ....... 14 (43.75) Computer World ........ 7 (21.87) Electric Cafe ......... 5 (15.63) Autobahn .............. 2 ( 6.25) Radio Activity ........ 2 ( 6.25) Kraftwerk 2 ........... 1 ( 3.12) The Mix ............... 1 ( 3.12) Kraftwerk ............. 0 Ralf and Florian ...... 0 Trans Europe Express .. 0 (No big surprises; "kraftwerk 2" has 1 vote !!!) =========================================================================== 2) Best KW song 3) Second best KW song 4) Third best KW song =========================================================================== The Model ............. 25 Autobahn .............. 18 The Robots ............ 14 Radio-Activity ........ 13 Neon Lights ........... 12 Tour de France ........ 12 Computer World ........ 9 Numbers ............... 9 Europe Endless ........ 8 Pocket Calculator ..... 8 Trans Europe Express .. 8 Home Computer ......... 7 Musique non Stop ...... 7 The Telephone Call .... 7 Boing Boom Tshack ..... 6 Home Computer (Mix).... 6 Computer Love ......... 3 Kling Klang ........... 3 Heimatklange .......... 2 The Man-Machine ....... 2 Metropolis ............ 2 Stratovarius .......... 2 Franz Schubert ........ 1 Hall of Mirrors ....... 1 Kristallo ............. 1 Radioland ............. 1 Showroom Dummies ...... 1 Spacelab .............. 1 none .................. 3 --------------------- TOTAL 192 (No big surprises in the first ones; "autobahn" was in the first place for some time; a few of the songs must not be known to many of you!!!) =========================================================================== 5) Best mix from "The Mix" =========================================================================== Radioactivity ......... 15 (46.87) The Robots/Robotronik . 5 (15.63) Autobahn .............. 2 ( 6.25) Music Non Stop ........ 2 ( 6.25) Pocket Calculator ..... 2 ( 6.25) Computer Love ......... 1 ( 3.12) Home Computer ......... 1 ( 3.12) Trans Europe Express .. 1 ( 3.12) none .................. 2 ( 6.25) (No comment) =========================================================================== 6) Have you attended any KW gig? What's been the best one? =========================================================================== No 16 91 14 Yes (I assume 91 (?)) 2 (Half the people have been to a KW gig, and seems it has been in the last tour) =========================================================================== 7) Do you have all the KW albums (on record, tape or whatever)? =========================================================================== Don't have: Kraftwerk ............. 21 Kraftwerk 2 ........... 20 Ralf and Florian ...... 19 Autobahn .............. 2 Trans Europe Express .. 1 The Man Machine ....... 1 Computer World ........ 1 Electric Cafe ......... 1 Radio Activity ........ 0 Yes, I don't have all of them (?)... 3 (Very few people have the first 3 albums; when will we have a CD re-release?) =========================================================================== 8) Name 3 other of your favourite bands. =========================================================================== Depeche Mode 7 Tangerine Dream 5 Front 242 4 Yello 3 808 State 2 Die Krupps 2 Einstuerzende Neubuten 2 James Brown 2 Jean-Michel Jarre 2 The KLF 2 Laibach 2 Laurie Anderson 2 Orb 2 The Smiths 2 Ultravox 2 Yellow Magic Orchestra 2 2 Unlimited 1 A Certain Ratio 1 Abba 1 The Alan Parsons Project 1 Aphex Twin 1 The Art Of Noise 1 Bauhaus 1 Bark Psychosis 1 Big Black 1 Bill Nelson 1 Borbetomagus 1 Cabaret Voltaire 1 Claude Debussy 1 ClockDVA 1 Cranes 1 Cr@ss 1 The Cure 1 Cybotron 1 Dead Can Dance 1 Deep Purple 1 Earwig 1 Erasure 1 Foetus 1 Frontline Assembly 1 Gary Numan 1 Genesis 1 Human League 1 In The Nursery 1 Joe Satriani 1 John Foxx 1 King Crimson 1 LFO 1 Madonna 1 Marillion 1 Miles Davis 1 My Bloody Valentine 1 Neil Young 1 New Order 1 Nitzer Ebb 1 Nurse With Wound 1 Pink Floyd 1 Pop Will Eat Itself 1 Propaganda 1 Ruthless Rap Assassins 1 Severed heads 1 Spacelab 1 Swell Maps 1 Talking Heads 1 The Time 1 Throwing Muses 1 Wendy Carlos 1 (Quite a few bands, and what a mixture! Musique non stop!!!) ** End of results ** "La musica ideas portara y siempre continuara, Jose Garcia sonido electronico, pepeg@ctivax.uab.es decibel sintetico" From kraftwerk-request Tue Mar 9 16:02:48 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA14269 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Tue, 9 Mar 1993 09:15:24 -0600 Message-Id: <199303091515.AA14269@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA14184 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Mar 1993 09:14:15 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVLZ2Y5WFK9D64TR@cc.uab.es>; Tue, 9 Mar 1993 16:02:48 GMT+0100 Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1993 16:02:48 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Incommunicado Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: IN::"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia Hey, I am INCOMMUNICADO. It seems I can send mail, but not receive it! There must be something wrong here!!! :-( I hope the poll results made it to the list. I sent them this morning. Jose Garcia pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Tue Mar 9 06:47:35 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA24212 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Tue, 9 Mar 1993 10:49:21 -0600 Message-Id: <199303091649.AA24212@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CMS.CC.WAYNE.EDU by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA24190 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Mar 1993 10:49:10 -0600 Received: from CMS.CC.WAYNE.EDU by CMS.CC.WAYNE.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3108; Tue, 09 Mar 93 11:51:40 EST Received: from cms.cc.wayne.edu (NJE origin EIVERSO@WAYNEST1) by CMS.CC.WAYNE.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 3464; Tue, 9 Mar 1993 11:51:40 -0500 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Re: electronic-PSB+Kraftwerk= new album? Date: Tue, 09 Mar 93 11:47:35 EST Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit MI U.S.A. Status: O Really-From: EIVERSO@CMS.CC.WAYNE.EDU Saw this on alt.rave (usenet). Anybody heard about this? In article <9MAR199309401141@rosie.uh.edu> st1pk@rosie.uh.edu (Disco!) writes: > I heard that Electronic is working on a new album, with > Kraftwerk replaceing the Pet shop boys. Has anyone else heard > this? >-- > daniel k. taylor | "I've lost all critical perspective." > st1pk@jetson.uh.edu | Dave, from 2001:A Space Odyssey Maybe somebody got Elektric Music confused with Electronic? --Eric "She is immortal and she's looking good" From kraftwerk-request Tue Mar 9 09:19:28 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA25502 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Tue, 9 Mar 1993 15:20:46 -0600 Message-Id: <199303092120.AA25502@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA25480 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 9 Mar 1993 15:20:38 -0600 Received: by cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (AIX 2.1 2/4.03) id AA10460; Tue, 9 Mar 93 15:19:29 CST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Re: Incommunicado Date: Tue, 9 Mar 93 15:19:28 CST In-Reply-To: <199303091515.AA14269@cs.uwp.edu>; from "kraftwerk mailing list" at Mar 9, 93 4:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL5] Status: O Really-From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell) > > Really-From: Jose Garcia > > Hey, I am INCOMMUNICADO. It seems I can send mail, but not receive it! > > There must be something wrong here!!! Sure is, Jose...I think I tried about three times to send my poll response in...hope it actually made it on _one_ of those, as I had several "undelivered mail" messages waiting for me yesterday when I checked mail via telnet from Seattle... D.A.C. Crowell Computer Music Project/School of Music University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign (dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu) From kraftwerk-request Wed Mar 10 12:28:14 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA04940 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Wed, 10 Mar 1993 05:30:06 -0600 Message-Id: <199303101130.AA04940@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA04159 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 10 Mar 1993 05:29:25 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVN5KSU8U89D6CJO@cc.uab.es>; Wed, 10 Mar 1993 12:28:14 GMT+0100 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1993 12:28:14 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: images via ftp Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: IN::"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia Hey! Don't know if I can already get mail or not. Can you Dave send me a full digest? The problem might have been fixed but not sure. If so please put me on the list again!!! Sorry about all the hassles, David. Anyway, I've uploaded 2 great images scanned from the Japanese bootleg CD "Numbers". I've put them at: site: cs.uwp.edu directory: /pub/incoming/lists/kraftwerk files: numbers1.tif.Z, numbers2.tif.Z They're obviously in TIFF format, and quite big also. 256 gray level. Two nice live pics. The first one is taken during "pocket calculator" performance. The second one, during TEE. How clever I am! :) They'll probably be moved to a permanent place, in another directory (right David? Are you taking note? :) |> There are more boots, from the 81 and the 91 tours. I'll try and do a more |> comprehensive review of all these boots, if there's interest on it. | | Jose! Please do it! And don't forget where to buy the stuff.. OK. I'll write a more detailed article about bootlegs and post it probably next week. Meanwhile, I'm sure you people have some boots. Send your own reviews!!! Opinions might be different! Jose Garcia "I'm the antenna catching vibrations, pepeg@ctivax.uab.es you're the transmitter and give information" From kraftwerk-request Wed Mar 10 02:29:19 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA08929 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Wed, 10 Mar 1993 13:57:14 -0600 Message-Id: <199303101957.AA08929@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from ames.arc.nasa.gov by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA08905 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Wed, 10 Mar 1993 13:57:01 -0600 Received: from ultra.UUCP by ames.arc.nasa.gov with UUCP id AA28169 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu); Wed, 10 Mar 1993 11:00:29 -0800 Received: from froth.ultra.com by ultra.com id AA18941 (4.1/Ultra-1.4-10-10-91 for kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu); Wed, 10 Mar 93 10:29:19 PST Date: Wed, 10 Mar 93 10:29:19 PST From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: where to buy boots Status: O Really-From: jeffj@ultra.com (Jeff Johnson) =>| Jose! Please do it! And don't forget where to buy the stuff.. => =>OK. I'll write a more detailed article about bootlegs and post it probably =>next week. Meanwhile, I'm sure you people have some boots. Send your =>own reviews!!! Opinions might be different! There has been several requests for info on where to buy boots. I don't currently own any KW boots, but I do have some by other bands, most notably Pink Floyd. There was a list of sources posted last week, which I'll summarize and add to. 1) There are several magazines which cater to collectors. Most notable are Record Collector (which doesn't accept boot advertisements, but which is a good source of rare legitimate recording, such as radio shows and promos), Goldmine (anything goes) and DISCoveries (anything goes). RC is a UK publication, Goldmine is a US publication, and DISCoveries I'm not sure about. I'd acquire one of these magazines and sit back and see what is available. I've acquired the majority of my boots from ads in Goldmine. 2) Record Swaps. Always a great source of boots, although usually more expensive than buying mailorder from a Goldmine advertiser. I usually only buy boots that are no longer available elsewhere at record swaps. 3) Record Stores. The big chains won't have any. You gotta go to the Mon and Pop hole in the wall places. This is probably the most expensive way to acquire them. 4) Over the net. Don't discount the network. I bought my first boots from a post on rec.music.marketplace. I've also bought boots via the Pink Floyd mailing list. There is also a used CD mailserver (for info send mail to ???). Finally, there are several folks who run a CD business on the net. I've not dealt with any of them, buy you can get a current catalog via e-mail from jry@reef.cis.ufl.edu and from ranjit@netcom.com (Ranjit's catalog is also available via anonftp from netcom.com in /pub/ranjit -- he also just atarted carrying videos). Also, boots are more available in some countries than in others. It's good to build international frindships! My recommendations: I've bought the majority of my boots from two places in Germany. They run ads in every issue of Goldmine (and probably DISCoveries) from which I usually order. CD Centrale CD Connection bei Wellfair P.O.Box 101431 Blitzkuehlenstr. 12 6900 Heidelberg W-4350 Recklinghausen Germany Germany (catalog available for US$2 cash) phone (germany) 2361 109747 fax (germany) 2361 12942 hope this helps /jeff From kraftwerk-request Thu Mar 11 18:14:04 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA07361 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Thu, 11 Mar 1993 21:15:20 -0600 Message-Id: <199303120315.AA07361@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from kentvm.kent.edu by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA07345 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 11 Mar 1993 21:15:14 -0600 Received: from KENTVM.BITNET by Kentvm.Kent.edu (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2MX) with BSMTP id 6300; Thu, 11 Mar 93 22:16:12 EDT Received: from KENTVM (JGUSCOTT) by KENTVM.BITNET (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 2760; Thu, 11 Mar 93 22:16:11 EDT Date: Thu, 11 Mar 93 22:14:04 EDT From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Current Projex Status: O Really-From: John Guscott DOes anyone have any information on any new projex by members of Kraftwerk? I heard some rumors of a band called Electronic Musik (or something like that). If this exists, is it any good? Thanks so much!! John From kraftwerk-request Fri Mar 12 09:45:21 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA24628 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Fri, 12 Mar 1993 02:47:13 -0600 Message-Id: <199303120847.AA24628@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA24616 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 12 Mar 1993 02:46:56 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVPSHZOQSW9D6IP4@cc.uab.es>; Fri, 12 Mar 1993 09:45:21 GMT+0100 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 09:45:21 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Re: Current Projex Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia > Really-From: John Guscott > > DOes anyone have any information on any new projex by members of Kraftwerk? > > I heard some rumors of a band called Electronic Musik (or something like... Yes, there has been some discussion about these projects. The band you're talking about is ELEKTRIC MUSIC and, by the way, has nothing to do with Electronic, which is a different band. So the possible collaboration between ex-Kraftwerk members and (was it Pet Shop Boys?? Don't remember now, but somebody pointed out this) is possibly a confussion due to the "similar" name of these two bands. They have finished an album that hasn't been released yet, but might come soon. So far, two singles have been released: crosstalk TV I'd recommend them if you ARE a fan of KW and need something new, at least for the "crosstalk" single. Why don't you get the back issues of the Kraftwerk Digest?, which can be obtained via anonymous ftp from: site: cs.uwp.edu directory: /pub/music/lists/kraftwerk/digest There's more info about ELEKTRIC MUSIC in these back issues. Not many about the "TV" single. It seems nobody from this list has been able yet to get a copy of it, at least nobody has sent a review of it! Jose Garcia "I'm talking to you" -Crosstalk- pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Fri Mar 12 11:42:51 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA27739 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Fri, 12 Mar 1993 03:43:07 -0600 Message-Id: <199303120943.AA27739@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from charon.cwi.nl by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA27727 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 12 Mar 1993 03:42:59 -0600 Received: from gans.cwi.nl by charon.cwi.nl with SMTP id AA03410 (5.65b/3.8/CWI-Amsterdam); Fri, 12 Mar 1993 10:42:53 +0100 Received: by gans.cwi.nl with SMTP id AA05543 (5.65b/3.8/CWI-Amsterdam); Fri, 12 Mar 1993 10:42:52 +0100 Subject: Re: Current Projex In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 12 Mar 1993 09:45:21 MET." <199303120847.AA24628@cs.uwp.edu> Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 10:42:51 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Status: O Really-From: Peter de Waal In message <199303120847.AA24628@cs.uwp.edu>Jose Garcia writes: > There's more info about ELEKTRIC MUSIC in these back issues. Not many about > the "TV" single. It seems nobody from this list has been able yet to get a > copy of it, at least nobody has sent a review of it! Well I have a copy. I recommend it to everyone who likes Kraftwerk. It's MUCH better than the Crosstalk single, which I didn't like much. There are two tracks on it, TV (4.04) and Television (4.00), both written by Bartos and Mantueffel. TV is a more pop oriented song, with various samples taken from German, English, Spanish and French television programs. It has the typical Kraftwerk like 'tsjick' percussion sounds. The second track, called Television, is a sort of remix of the first track, with vocoder/robot lyrics. I hope you have been blessed by this message (this quote will become clear if you hear the end of the TV track :-). --- Peter de Waal, CWI, Amsterdam --- From kraftwerk-request Fri Mar 12 12:52:11 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA15465 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Fri, 12 Mar 1993 05:55:26 -0600 Message-Id: <199303121155.AA15465@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA15442 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 12 Mar 1993 05:54:56 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVPZ2UOM5S9D6EGV@cc.uab.es>; Fri, 12 Mar 1993 12:52:11 GMT+0100 Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 12:52:11 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Rare recordings Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: IN::"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia > Really-From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell) > ... > I think I tried about three times to send my poll response in... > I had several "undelivered mail" messages ... Sorry Andrew, but I did't got any of your mails. Still having problems. Now you know why I'm not very interactive lately. I have to get the daily digest via ftp! If there's anyone out there that have to get in touch with me, try by mailing a VERY SHORT message. These seem to get here with no problem. People, remember that bootleg records are illegal. I have no knowledge about where to obtain such recordings. Anyway, here's some info about a rare recording. Of course this is a personal review. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Title: Koln 12.6.1971 Format: LP picture disc Label: Ruckzuck Records, 6305051 Country: Italy Total time: 45 Venue: (see title) Limited: yes; ltd. edition 250 copies. There are two different pressings of this record. The first one is extremely rare, and is numbered on the vinyl. The edge of the pic. disc is black. The second one is by far less rare than the first one. The vinyl is not numbered, but comes with a numbered small card with the "credits". The edge of the pic. disc is clear (transparent). Tracks: Ruckzuck part 1 (23.30) Ruckzuck part 2 (21.30) Some distortion, but fits in the KW sound of this era :) Sounds quite good though, bearing in mind the date of the recording. Probably, the earliest recording of a KW concert. Might feature Michael Rother on guitar and Eberhard Krahnemann on bass. Don't expect to hear many electronic gadgets. This is an electro-acoustic concert, with the usual electric guitars, bass, drums, plus flute. There's a lot of guitar sound. Has a very industrial feeling. You can tell the audience enjoyed the show. Where's the tape with rest of this concert? I'd only recommend this record to the people who like the first two KW albums. Cover: The pic. disc shows the usual KW traffic cone of this era, as in the first LP "Kraftwerk", in both sides. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jose Garcia "La musica ideas portara y siempre continuara, pepeg@ctivax.uab.es sonido electronico, decibel sintetico" - Technopop - From kraftwerk-request Fri Mar 12 10:16:04 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA03849 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Fri, 12 Mar 1993 10:16:13 -0600 Message-Id: <199303121616.AA03849@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from sunic.sunet.se by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA03835 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 12 Mar 1993 10:16:04 -0600 Received: from ume.cs.umu.se by sunic.sunet.se (5.65c8-/1.28) id AA27939; Fri, 12 Mar 1993 17:15:57 +0100 Received: from teg.cs.umu.se by ume.cs.umu.se (5.65+bind 1.7+ida 1.4.2/91-02-01) id AA17735; Fri, 12 Mar 93 17:15:54 +0100, auth dvlawm X-Auth-From: dvlawm Received: by teg.cs.umu.se (5.65+bind 1.7+ida 1.4.2/91-02-01) id AA13394; Fri, 12 Mar 93 17:15:27 +0100 Return-Path: From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Elektric Music - airplay Date: Fri, 12 Mar 93 17:15:16 MET X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Status: O Really-From: dvlawm@cs.umu.se Here in Sweden the latest release from Elektric Music, Television has become quite a radio hit. They play it quite often, especially at night. Has anyone heard (or seen :-) ) if Bartos has made any videos to the new material? Could anyone (Jose...) repost the adress to where one could obtain the Aktivitat-fanzine. Being a student I'm not allowed to ftp outside Scandinavia, so I can't get things from uwp... /anders -- *************************************************************************** * Anders Wilhelm * em: dvlawm@cs.umu.se * "I program my Home-computer, * * Umea University * trafo@unitech.se * feel myself into the future" * * Sweden * * -Florian Schneider, 1981 * *************************************************************************** From kraftwerk-request Fri Mar 12 13:15:00 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA09724 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Fri, 12 Mar 1993 17:17:46 -0600 Message-Id: <199303122317.AA09724@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from relay1.UU.NET by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA09713 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 12 Mar 1993 17:17:37 -0600 Received: from spectre.uunet.ca by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA01581; Fri, 12 Mar 93 17:53:00 -0500 Received: from web.apc.org ([142.77.253.8]) by spectre.uunet.ca with SMTP id <3062>; Fri, 12 Mar 1993 17:49:48 -0500 Received: from intacc by web.apc.org with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0nXIUL-0001I4C; Fri, 12 Mar 93 22:46 GMT Received: by intacc.uucp (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.4) id ; Fri, 12 Mar 93 15:14 PST Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1993 18:15:00 -0500 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Re: Current Projex Status: O Really-From: intacc!zerobeat@uunet.UU.NET (Ferenc Szabo) In reply to your letter, in which you wrote: > >Really-From: Jose Garcia > >soon. So far, two singles have been released: > crosstalk > TV > >the "TV" single. It seems nobody from this list has been able yet to get a >copy of it, at least nobody has sent a review of it! >Jose Garcia "I'm talking to you" -Crosstalk- >pepeg@ctivax.uab.es Over here in Toronto (Canada) the only single I've seen so far is TV. Of course I bought it instantly. There are two songs on the single: TV (4:04) and Television (4:00). If somebody played me the song and told me it was actually Kraftwerk, I wouldn't question it.....the sounds, voice, lyrics and aesthetic are every bit Kraftwerk. It's a little less 'computerish' sounding than most Kraftwerk and more pop or melodic sounding (the same way 'The Telephone Call' or 'Computer Love' is) The second tune (Television) is a slowed down re-interpretation of TV , mostly instrumental with a bit of speach synthesizer. I will purchase more Elektric Music when it becomes available WITHOUT HESITATION! ferenc From kraftwerk-request Sat Mar 13 05:33:00 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA25075 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Sat, 13 Mar 1993 08:43:51 -0600 Message-Id: <199303131443.AA25075@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from relay1.geis.com by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA25064 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sat, 13 Mar 1993 08:43:46 -0600 Received: by relay1.geis.com (15.11/15.6) id AA29016; Sat, 13 Mar 93 09:45:58 est From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Date: Sat, 13 Mar 93 09:33:00 EDT Subject: Kraftwerk Digest X-Genie-Id: 2541032 Status: O Really-From: p-s-t@genie.geis.com I would like to end my subscription to the Kraftwerk Digest. Thank you. From kraftwerk-request Sun Mar 14 16:14:32 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA23727 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Sun, 14 Mar 1993 10:18:30 -0600 Message-Id: <199303141618.AA23727@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA23714 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sun, 14 Mar 1993 10:18:25 -0600 Via: uk.ac.east-anglia.information-systems; Sun, 14 Mar 1993 16:15:04 +0000 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Received: from oxygen.sys.uea.ac.uk by sys.uea.ac.uk; Sun, 14 Mar 93 16:14:34 GMT Date: Sun, 14 Mar 93 16:14:32 GMT Subject: subscribe Status: O Really-From: Fred Brewster Please subscribe me to the mailing list... Thanks CRAIG ===== u9118071@sys.uea.ac.uk From kraftwerk-request Sun Mar 14 09:16:52 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA16016 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Sun, 14 Mar 1993 17:16:23 -0600 Message-Id: <199303142316.AA16016@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from noao.edu by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA16003 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sun, 14 Mar 1993 17:16:16 -0600 Received: from jab.UUCP by noao.edu via UUCP (4.1/SAG-Noao.G85) id AA04082; Sun, 14 Mar 93 16:16:14 MST; for kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Received: by jab.tucson.az.us (1.65/waf) via UUCP; Sun, 14 Mar 93 16:17:21 MST for noao!kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu Subject: Re: subscribe From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Date: Sun, 14 Mar 93 16:16:52 MST In-Reply-To: <199303141618.AA23727@cs.uwp.edu> Organization: Just Another Bbs. Tucson, AZ Status: O Really-From: fish@jab.tucson.az.us (david wright) Please (whoever in charge) take me off the mailing list... I enjoy it, but don't have enouf time to keep-up. dave not breathing From kraftwerk-request Sun Mar 14 09:48:32 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA17816 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Sun, 14 Mar 1993 17:48:48 -0600 Message-Id: <199303142348.AA17816@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from triton.unm.edu by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA17803 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sun, 14 Mar 1993 17:48:41 -0600 Received: by triton.unm.edu (5.65/0.1) id ; Sun, 14 Mar 1993 16:48:34 -0700 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Kraftwerk Live Video Date: Sun, 14 Mar 93 16:48:32 MST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL8] Status: O Really-From: Lazlo Nibble The March 19th GOLDMINE mentions that Greenpeace is distributing a video of last year's "Stop Sellafield" concert, which featured U2, Public Enemy, B.A.D.II, and Kraftwerk. Has anyone picked it up yet? It's probably the only chance a lot of us stateside will have to see 'em live . . . -- Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu) From kraftwerk-request Mon Mar 15 09:47:26 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA17157 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 15 Mar 1993 02:50:14 -0600 Message-Id: <199303150850.AA17157@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA17144 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 15 Mar 1993 02:50:04 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVTZQYR92O9GVD1K@cc.uab.es>; Mon, 15 Mar 1993 09:47:26 GMT+0100 Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 09:47:26 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Re: Kraftwerk Digest Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia Please notice: To SUBSCRIBE / UNSUBSCRIBE you must e-mail to: kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu, and not to the list itself. Jose Garcia pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Mon Mar 15 10:12:00 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA18001 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 15 Mar 1993 03:12:58 -0600 Message-Id: <199303150912.AA18001@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA17989 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 15 Mar 1993 03:12:50 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVU0ID2F2O9D6RHN@cc.uab.es>; Mon, 15 Mar 1993 10:12:00 GMT+0100 Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 10:12:00 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: new projex Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia > Really-From: intacc!zerobeat@uunet.UU.NET (Ferenc Szabo) > > I will purchase more Elektric Music when it becomes available > WITHOUT HESITATION! I hope this happens soon. They have actually an album ready to be released I think :) > ... There aretwo tracks on it, TV (4.04) and Television (4.00), ... > --- Peter de Waal, CWI, Amsterdam --- Yesterday I got the latest ELEKTRIC MUSIC single, on 12" and 12" pic disc :) There's a different track on them. The tracks these 12" have are: TV2 (5.40) Television (4.00) I've listened to it a couple of times and I quite like it. I can't wait to get the album! Jose Garcia pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Mon Mar 15 10:15:41 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA18267 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 15 Mar 1993 03:19:22 -0600 Message-Id: <199303150919.AA18267@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA18252 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 15 Mar 1993 03:19:07 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVU0Q7FS0G9D6RHN@cc.uab.es>; Mon, 15 Mar 1993 10:15:41 GMT+0100 Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 10:15:41 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: AKTIVITAT fanzine Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia OK. Here's again the address of the KRAFTWERK fanzine: AKTIVITAT I'll just say it is well worth getting if you're a KW fan. The latest issue, # 3, has 50 pages, in A5 format, with a very nice front and back cover in colour. Price is 2.50 UK pounds for Europe, including postage. You have to send this amount by International Money Order. The address is: I A C 108 Cummings Park Crescent Northfield Aberdeen AB2 7AR SCOTLAND U.K. If you have any questions, you can write to this address, but please enclose an International Reply Coupon. Jose Garcia pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Mon Mar 15 10:24:30 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA18505 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 15 Mar 1993 03:24:54 -0600 Message-Id: <199303150924.AA18505@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA18488 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 15 Mar 1993 03:24:44 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVU0Y3VVWW9GVD2A@cc.uab.es>; Mon, 15 Mar 1993 10:24:30 GMT+0100 Date: Mon, 15 Mar 1993 10:24:30 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: a KW concert in '93 ?? Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia I've heard a rumour which says that KW are performing live in a festival in Osnabruck, in Germany I think. The date is 28th May. Can anyone confirm this? If this is true, I cannot believe it! KW playing live in '90, '91, '92 and '93 !!! And what is more, they could try new tracks on this concert ?! Jose Garcia "Musica electronica, figura ritmica, pepeg@ctivax.uab.es Arte, politica, en la era atomica" - Electric Cafe - From kraftwerk-request Tue Mar 16 17:33:34 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA18793 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Tue, 16 Mar 1993 10:36:05 -0600 Message-Id: <199303161636.AA18793@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA18690 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 16 Mar 1993 10:35:15 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVVU9NXB349KM2WO@cc.uab.es>; Tue, 16 Mar 1993 17:33:34 GMT+0100 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 17:33:34 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Re: Kraftwerk Live Video Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia > Really-From: Lazlo Nibble >... > a video of last year's "Stop Sellafield" concert, which featured U2, ... > B.A.D.II, and Kraftwerk. Has anyone picked it up yet? ... No, and I think it is not available yet. I think I have the release date at home, but don't remember now. Hope this video has many songs from KW (which I doubt). What about a Kling Klang video release of one of the shows from the last tour? Taking note, Ralf & Florian and co.? Jose Garcia pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Tue Mar 16 18:23:14 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA22364 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Tue, 16 Mar 1993 11:22:55 -0600 Message-Id: <199303161722.AA22364@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA22341 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 16 Mar 1993 11:22:35 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GVVW0XXGKW9KM3QT@cc.uab.es>; Tue, 16 Mar 1993 18:23:14 GMT+0100 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1993 18:23:14 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Rare recordings Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia Here's more info about another rare recording. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Title: Live in Cologne 1975 Format: CD Label: Super Golden Radio Shows, SGRS 010 Country: Italy Total time: 53:47 Venue: Limited: no Tracks: Ruckzuck (9.25) Kometenmelodie 1 (16.35) Autobahn (26.41) The sound is excellent, a bit raw, from a broadcast probably. Must have been bottleged from an LP. In some places you can hear some record surface noise. Ruckzuck is quite a different version, with electronic percussion now. Florian's flute is in good shape. Good percussion passages and other electronic effects in Autobahn. Very enjoyable. A must. Cover: The front cover shows the usual "picnic" picture. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jose Garcia "You're so close and far away, pepeg@ctivax.uab.es I call you up all night and day" From kraftwerk-request Thu Mar 18 06:25:40 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA17162 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Thu, 18 Mar 1993 16:29:32 -0600 Message-Id: <199303182229.AA17162@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from june.cs.washington.edu by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA16776 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 18 Mar 1993 16:25:31 -0600 Received: by june.cs.washington.edu (5.65b/7.1ju) id AA14112; Thu, 18 Mar 93 14:25:40 -0800 Date: Thu, 18 Mar 93 14:25:40 -0800 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Return-Path: X-Old-Cc: kraftwerk-digest@cs.uwp.edu Subject: very minor Electrik Music track Status: O Really-From: karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty) Saw this used CD yesterday: promo(?) for "Planet Rock" remixes on Tommy Boy: 1. Classic Mix by Electrik Music 4:00 (clearly an edit... it's 9:00+ on the e.p.) 2. Original Afrika Bambataa Instrumental (didn't get the time...approx. 4:00 or 5:00) (The Original Instrumental is quite good - I have it on my old worn-out copy of the original Planet Rock 12". Unfortunately the remix CD has only the Bonus Beats and not the full instrumental.) I'm not interested in having it myself but could send it to someone since it's probably somewhat rare. It was US $4. Richard From kraftwerk-request Fri Mar 19 19:42:38 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA00846 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Fri, 19 Mar 1993 11:42:59 -0600 Message-Id: <199303191742.AA00846@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from charon.cwi.nl by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA00816 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 19 Mar 1993 11:42:44 -0600 Received: from gans.cwi.nl by charon.cwi.nl with SMTP id AA13877 (5.65b/3.8/CWI-Amsterdam); Fri, 19 Mar 1993 18:42:40 +0100 Received: by gans.cwi.nl with SMTP id AA19219 (5.65b/3.8/CWI-Amsterdam); Fri, 19 Mar 1993 18:42:38 +0100 Subject: Re: a KW concert in '93 ?? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 15 Mar 1993 10:24:30 MET." <199303150924.AA18505@cs.uwp.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1993 18:42:38 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Status: O Really-From: Peter de Waal In message <199303150924.AA18505@cs.uwp.edu> Jose Garcia writes: > I've heard a rumour which says that KW are performing live in a festival > in Osnabruck, in Germany I think. The date is 28th May. Can anyone confirm > this? Don't know about Germany, but announcements have been made for a Kraftwerk concert on May 25 in Groningen, the Netherlands. --- Peter de Waal, CWI, Amsterdam --- "I hope you have been blessed by this message" From kraftwerk-request Sat Mar 20 11:30:27 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA18907 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Sat, 20 Mar 1993 04:29:53 -0600 Message-Id: <199303201029.AA18907@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA18868 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sat, 20 Mar 1993 04:29:42 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GW12T0RTSW9KMI1L@cc.uab.es>; Sat, 20 Mar 1993 11:30:27 GMT+0100 Date: Sat, 20 Mar 1993 11:30:27 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request Subject: Re: a KW concert in '93 ?? Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia Peter, Can you send more details about this concert in Holland in May 25th? Is it a proper KW concert, or a festival? Are tickets on sale? ....? ...? Send more info !!!!! Jose Garcia pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Mon Mar 22 18:06:19 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA07065 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 22 Mar 1993 10:06:29 -0600 Message-Id: <199303221606.AA07065@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from charon.cwi.nl by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA07052 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 22 Mar 1993 10:06:22 -0600 Received: from gans.cwi.nl by charon.cwi.nl with SMTP id AA23435 (5.65b/3.8/CWI-Amsterdam); Mon, 22 Mar 1993 17:06:20 +0100 Received: by gans.cwi.nl with SMTP id AA01413 (5.65b/3.8/CWI-Amsterdam); Mon, 22 Mar 1993 17:06:20 +0100 Subject: Re: a KW concert in '93 ?? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 20 Mar 1993 11:30:27 MET." <199303201029.AA18907@cs.uwp.edu> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 17:06:19 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request X-Admin: Requests for add/removal to kraftwerk-request Status: O Really-From: Peter de Waal In message <199303201029.AA18907@cs.uwp.edu>Jose Garcia writes: > Peter, > Can you send more details about this concert in Holland in May 25th? > > Is it a proper KW concert, or a festival? Are tickets on sale? > ....? ...? I don't know anything more than the date at this moment, but I will post more information as soon as I get it. --- Peter de Waal, CWI, Amsterdam --- From kraftwerk-request Mon Mar 22 20:37:56 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA27110 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 22 Mar 1993 13:37:56 -0600 Message-Id: <199303221937.AA27110@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA27077 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 22 Mar 1993 13:37:34 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GW4EIDUCLC9GVEWH@cc.uab.es>; Mon, 22 Mar 1993 20:37:56 GMT+0100 Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1993 20:37:56 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request X-Admin: Requests for add/removal to kraftwerk-request Subject: Rare recordings Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: PEPEG@ctivax.uab.es Hi! Here's more info about live KW recordings. I hope you find it interesting. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Title: Return of The Mensch-Maschine/20th Anniversary Tour Format: 2 LP Label: ???? 1009 Country: Italy Total time: 98:00 Venue: Teatro Tivoli, Bologna, 7 Feb. 1990 Limited: Apparently limited edition of 1000 copies Tracks: Numbers Computer World Tour de France The Model Computer Love Home Computer Autobahn Radio-Activity T.E.E. Pocket Calculator The Robots Musique Non Stop The sound is excellent, better than a CD of the same concert, titled "Rimini Rimini". I think it's an audience recording, but sounds very good. It features the whole concert (almost, see below). Most of the songs are at least a bit different from the versions that appeared on "The Mix" and that were performed during the '91 tour. "Computer Love" is quite different, "Home Computer" is very different, "Autobahn" has a very different feeling, as this is a "speed" version, faster. "Radio Activity" is quite different also. Doesn't feature the new lyrics. "T.E.E." is also faster, with an excellent section of metallic effects. "Pocket Calculator" is an excellent version also, even has a verse sung in Italian. "The Robots" is brilliant, with the only thing that the last 2 minutes of it are edited out (In this bootleg are "only" the first 10 minutes of the song). "Musique Non Stop" has a nice beginning. These concerts of KW in Italy in '90 were probably a try-out for what would be "The Mix" album. A very interesting (due to the different versions) and enjoyable record. Cover: The cover is quite nice, showing a b&w drawing of a futuristic city. The sleeve has the form of an envelope, very original. On the back it says "This is a public domain duplication for long play gramophone record players celebrating the 20th anniversary of Kraftwerk. 2 12" microgroove discs. 1000 multiples. Reproduced by Magazzini Criminali Ltd., Firenze with kind help of The Institut fuer Maschinen Sprachen, Duesseldorf. Kraft.exe 1009." --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jose Garcia "You're so close and far away, pepeg@ctivax.uab.es I call you up all night and day" From kraftwerk-request Thu Mar 25 04:06:56 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA05563 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Thu, 25 Mar 1993 04:07:10 -0600 Message-Id: <199303251007.AA05563@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from urmel.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA05549 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 25 Mar 1993 04:06:56 -0600 Received: from hathi (hathi.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE) by urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (4.1/urmel-4) id AA07686; Thu, 25 Mar 93 11:06:17 +0100 Received: by hathi (4.1/POOL.3) id AA17177; Thu, 25 Mar 93 11:06:38 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request X-Admin: Requests for add/removal to kraftwerk-request Subject: Osnabrueck Date: Thu, 25 Mar 93 11:06:36 MET In-Reply-To: <199303221937.AA27110@cs.uwp.edu>; from "kraftwerk mailing list" at Mar 22, 93 8:37 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL10] Status: O Really-From: lupo@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de I like to confirm the KW gig on May 28th 93 in Osnabrueck (Germany). This will be no normal KW concert, but a contribution to the Klang Art exhibition 1993. I got this information from a music magazine. I have no idea where to get tickets for how much, but I am trying to find out. Stay tuned. -- Lutz From kraftwerk-request Thu Mar 25 18:07:21 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA21368 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Thu, 25 Mar 1993 10:09:32 -0600 Message-Id: <199303251609.AA21368@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from charon.cwi.nl by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA21339 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 25 Mar 1993 10:09:19 -0600 Received: from gans.cwi.nl by charon.cwi.nl with SMTP id AA28229 (5.65b/3.8/CWI-Amsterdam); Thu, 25 Mar 1993 17:07:22 +0100 Received: by gans.cwi.nl with SMTP id AA11397 (5.65b/3.8/CWI-Amsterdam); Thu, 25 Mar 1993 17:07:21 +0100 Subject: another concert in '93 Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1993 17:07:21 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request X-Admin: Requests for add/removal to kraftwerk-request Status: O Really-From: Peter de Waal Hi, I've just checked and it appears to be true: Kraftwerk will be performing in Groningen (NL) on May 25. This will be a Kraftwerk-only performance, no supporting act. Ticket sales will start on April 25 (tel. +31-50131044, ticket office open between 12.00 and 18.00 CET) and tickets will cost 35 guilders (that's 16 ECU, 2220 Pesetas or 19 US$). Ciao! --- Peter de Waal, CWI, Amsterdam --- From kraftwerk-request Fri Mar 26 09:27:52 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA10501 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Fri, 26 Mar 1993 09:28:07 -0600 Message-Id: <199303261528.AA10501@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from dutrun.tudelft.nl by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA10471 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 26 Mar 1993 09:27:52 -0600 Received: from duttncb.tn.tudelft.nl by dutrun.tudelft.nl with SMTP (PP) id <29202-0@dutrun.tudelft.nl>; Fri, 26 Mar 1993 16:27:44 +0100 Received: by duttncb.tn.tudelft.nl (16.6/15.6) id AA11102; Fri, 26 Mar 93 16:27:34 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request X-Admin: Requests for add/removal to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Subject: Concert Osnabrueck Date: Fri, 26 Mar 93 16:27:31 MET Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] Status: O Really-From: "H." Boorsma --------------------------------------------------------------------------- H. Boorsma (TN-SV) | e-mail: Boorsma@duttncb.tn.tudelft.nl| --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi there, I just got tickets for the Krafwerk concert in Osnabrueck (Germany) on may 28. Does anybody know what music will be played over there ? Is it just another concert from their tour last year or will there be new work ? If someone needs adresses where to get tickets, please let me know. I'll look it up for you and place it on the list. Hillebrand Boorsma From kraftwerk-request Fri Mar 26 19:41:15 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA27251 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Fri, 26 Mar 1993 14:52:12 -0600 Message-Id: <199303262052.AA27251@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA27216 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 26 Mar 1993 14:51:58 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GW9XIK5XDS9KMXKZ@cc.uab.es>; Fri, 26 Mar 1993 19:41:15 GMT+0100 Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1993 19:41:15 GMT+0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request X-Admin: Requests for add/removal to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Subject: Re: Concert Osnabrueck Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia > Hillebrand Boorsma > I just got tickets for the Krafwerk concert in Osnabrueck (Germany) on > may 28. How lucky you are! > Does anybody know what music will be played over there ? Is it > just another concert from their tour last year or will there be new > work ? Well, I do think they might try new material to see how it works before putting it in a new record. I read in AKTIVITAT (the unofficial KW fanzine) they are working in a new album. As the concerts in Italy in '90 that were a test for the material for "The Mix" I think it's quite probable they might be playing some new stuff. I hope so! > If someone needs adresses where to get tickets, please let me know. I'll > look it up for you and place it on the list. All the information about it is very welcome I think. Well, I am interested on it! I might join you :-) Or shall I attend the one in Holland? :) Jose Garcia pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Sat Mar 27 18:35:22 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA06020 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Sat, 27 Mar 1993 10:35:36 -0600 Message-Id: <199303271635.AA06020@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from charon.cwi.nl by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA06001 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sat, 27 Mar 1993 10:35:25 -0600 Received: from gans.cwi.nl by charon.cwi.nl with SMTP id AA18063 (5.65b/3.8/CWI-Amsterdam); Sat, 27 Mar 1993 17:35:22 +0100 Received: by gans.cwi.nl with SMTP id AA14858 (5.65b/3.8/CWI-Amsterdam); Sat, 27 Mar 1993 17:35:22 +0100 Subject: Bootlegs Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1993 17:35:22 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request X-Admin: Requests for add/removal to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Status: O Really-From: Peter de Waal Hi, Just got back from a record fair in Amsterdam. Obviously I had to much cash to spend, since I got back with 6 Kraftwerk bootlegs. Almost any record thas has been mentioned on this mailing list was available, mostly I guess because there were quite a number of German dealers. I was able to obtain: - Rebuilt in 92 - Heute Abend - Tanz Musik (this had the same track listing as N1 to Zurich, so I assume it's the same). The only thing that is mentioned on the cover is 'recorded in Switzerland in 1991'. - Hyper Cerebral Machine. This one is recorded live in Firenze, Italy in May 1981. The track listing is: Numbers Computer World Computer Love Home Computer The Model Neon Lights Geiger Counter Radioactivity The voice of energy Trans Europe express The hall of mirrors Show Room Pocket calculator The Robots Most bootlegs were surprisingly cheap. All CDs were 35 guilders each (18US$), and I was even able to buy Heute Abend, the only double CD, for the same price. Rebuilt was sold as two separate CD's. There were also some regular Kraftwerk LP's, but these were very expensive. Among them were Kraftwerk 2, and a special 'H\"or Zu' version of Radioaktivitat. Does anybody know what the last one is? --- Peter de Waal, CWI, Amsterdam --- From kraftwerk-request Sun Mar 28 14:19:16 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA11106 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Sun, 28 Mar 1993 06:19:28 -0600 Message-Id: <199303281219.AA11106@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from charon.cwi.nl by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA11091 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Sun, 28 Mar 1993 06:19:20 -0600 Received: from gans.cwi.nl by charon.cwi.nl with SMTP id AA01021 (5.65b/3.8/CWI-Amsterdam); Sun, 28 Mar 1993 13:19:17 +0100 Received: by gans.cwi.nl with SMTP id AA15827 (5.65b/3.8/CWI-Amsterdam); Sun, 28 Mar 1993 13:19:16 +0100 Subject: Kraftwerk TV performance Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1993 13:19:16 +0100 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request X-Admin: Requests for add/removal to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Status: O Really-From: Peter de Waal Hi, This is of importance only for the maillist members who can receive BBC Television. The next episode of 'Sounds of the Seventies', a BBC TV series on the music of that decade, will feature, amongst others, Kraftwerk. It is to be broadcast next Saturday, April 3, somewhere around 20.00 CET (I'll post the exact time when I know it). Given the format of the show they will probably be showing only one song though, but it's very likely to be a live performance. --- Peter de Waal, CWI, Amsterdam --- From kraftwerk-request Mon Mar 29 20:33:25 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA23807 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 29 Mar 1993 12:36:59 -0600 Message-Id: <199303291836.AA23807@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA23561 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 29 Mar 1993 12:34:34 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GWE69HTZHS9OCZ8N@cc.uab.es>; Mon, 29 Mar 1993 20:33:25 GMT+0200 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 20:33:25 GMT+0200 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request X-Admin: Requests for add/removal to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Subject: Re: Bootlegs Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia > There were also some regular Kraftwerk LP's, but these were very expensive. > Among them were Kraftwerk 2, and a special 'H\"or Zu' version of > Radioaktivitat. Does anybody know what the last one is? > --- Peter de Waal, CWI, Amsterdam --- My copy of the Radioaktivitat LP has the original sheet of RadioAktivivat stickers, and the record label has the logo "Hor Zu". The rest is just the same. I've read somewhere that "Hor Zu" was a German magazine that made releases of some albums. I don't know Peter if you spotted any other difference on the LP. As for the prices of bootlegs concerns, well it all depends were you buy them I guess. Here in Spain they aren't so cheap, but anyway, neither are nomal official CDs!!! Jose Garcia pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Mon Mar 29 20:43:10 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA24401 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Mon, 29 Mar 1993 12:44:00 -0600 Message-Id: <199303291844.AA24401@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from CCUAB1 (cc.uab.es) by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA24365 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 29 Mar 1993 12:43:40 -0600 Received: from DECNET-MAIL (PEPEG@CTIVAX) by cc.uab.es (PMDF #2461 ) id <01GWE6KWB0VK9N3X3K@cc.uab.es>; Mon, 29 Mar 1993 20:43:10 GMT+0200 Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1993 20:43:10 GMT+0200 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request X-Admin: Requests for add/removal to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Subject: Rare recordings Organization: Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona X-Ps-Qualifiers: /charset=dec-mcs X-Vms-To: CCUAB::IN%"kraftwerk@cs.uwp.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O Really-From: Jose Garcia Here's more info about live recordings. This one if my favourite. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Title: Numbers Format: CD Label: ?? K 8109 Country: JAPAN Total time: 72:00 Venue: 7th Sep. 1981, JAPAN Limited: Aparently, this CD is very very limited (100 copies). Tracks: Numbers Computer World Computer Love Home Computer Neon Lights Autobahn Showroom Dummies Trans Europe Express The Robots It's More Fun to Compute The sound is great. Sounds as an official recording almost. It has excellent renditions of some tracks. Home Computer and Neon Ligths are very enjoyable, with some nice effects. Autobahn (17.40) is terrific! Showroom Dummies is brilliant, a faster version with excellent sound effects. The Robots is also very good, particularly at the end. It's More Fun to Compute is a completely different version, very fast, with excellent sound effects, very enjoyable. This CD is very enjoyable, from the beginning to the end, with an excellent sound quality. The best recording I know about from the Computer World Tour. According to an article that appeared in AKTIVITAT, this CD is a limited edition of 100 copies. Very very expensive it is. There are several CDs of this concert, but don't know if the quality is as good. They might have been botlegged from this CD. Cover: Very nice cover with colour pics from the Computer World tour. Front cover is a picture during the performance of Pocket Calculator. Back cover is a pic. taken during T.E.E. The disc is yellow with the drawings of the 4 heads and the "pocket calculator" with the hand, as shown on the Pocket Calculator single (front and back cover available via anonymous ftp at cs.uwp.edu, directory: /pub/music/pictures/kraftwerk, in TIFF format). --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hope you find this useful. By the way, I cannot access e-mail now, unless I come to the University on purpose or to do something else. Jose Garcia pepeg@ctivax.uab.es From kraftwerk-request Tue Mar 30 03:14:50 1993 Received: by cs.uwp.edu id AA09241 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for kraftwerk-members); Tue, 30 Mar 1993 03:14:57 -0600 Message-Id: <199303300914.AA09241@cs.uwp.edu> Received: from dutrun.tudelft.nl by cs.uwp.edu with SMTP id AA09229 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 30 Mar 1993 03:14:50 -0600 Received: from duttncb.tn.tudelft.nl by dutrun.tudelft.nl with SMTP (PP) id <26513-0@dutrun.tudelft.nl>; Tue, 30 Mar 1993 11:14:12 +0200 Received: by duttncb.tn.tudelft.nl (16.6/15.6) id AA17516; Tue, 30 Mar 93 11:14:07 +0200 From: kraftwerk (kraftwerk mailing list) To: kraftwerk Errors-To: kraftwerk-request X-Admin: Requests for add/removal to kraftwerk-request@cs.uwp.edu Subject: Concert Osnabrueck Date: Tue, 30 Mar 93 11:14:05 METDST Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] Status: O Really-From: "H." Boorsma -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- H. 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